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Kirstjen Nielsen Has Resigned As Secretary Of Separated Families

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I have nothing to say. Rumor seems to be that Stephan Miller wants to reincarnate Attila the Hun.

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    Cheryl Rofer

    Since the question will probably come up,

  3. 3.

    Duane

    They sucked all the remnant of soul out of Nielsen. Hard to imagine finding a worse person for the job. Hold my beer.

  6. 6.

    PsiFighter37

    Fuck her. She should be rotting in jail, just like the rest of this administration.

  10. 10.

    debbie

    Trump will say his edict “supersedes” any asylum laws, just like his threatening Mexico with tariffs “supercedes” anything in the USMCA. He’s a superseder.

  16. 16.

    Cheryl Rofer

    And the speculation starts. I advise taking this with a grain or more of salt.

  17. 17.

    zhena gogolia

    “You’re quoting a Hun to me?” (Woody Allen, Love and Death, sorry, it’s just so brilliant)

  22. 22.

    Amir Khalid

    @debbie:
    It must have been explained to him that POTUS does not have the authority to overrule the law of the land. Or did he decide to just create that power for himself?

  25. 25.

    Cheryl Rofer

    Trump is really upset about, and focusing on, the southern border and his fictitious hordes of evildoers invading the US. He wants something done but has no way to make it happen. What may result is an upsurge in humanitarian crimes by his people.

  28. 28.

    debbie

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    You’d think he’d be happy for a couple days at least, what with getting a plaque bearing his name attached to the replacement wall he insists is new.

  30. 30.

    Bill Arnold

    @debbie:

    I’m reading that she’s out because she’s not tough enough. Who sees Rick Perry as a tough guy?

    Is there anything solid? I’m wondering if she snapped and got into a loud and emotional argument with Trump, and his ego demanded her firing as a way to win the argument. [1]
    The Stephan Miller rumors are interesting too; not sure since there are so many that loath the guy.

    [1] long history of arguments: The hostile border between Trump and the head of DHS – Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and President Trump have had a contentious relationship as illegal border crossings increase. (Josh Dawsey, Nick Miroff, May 25, 2018)

  32. 32.

    Felanius Kootea

    @Cheryl Rofer: Her letter says effective April 7, 2018. She wants to forget that the last year happened? (I know it was probably a pre-written letter or a typo)

  35. 35.

    Mike in NC

    Impossible to keep track of so many people leaving this administration, usually to be replaced either by nobody or someone even worse.

  41. 41.

    B.B.A.

    Obvious frontrunners are David Duke, Pat Buchanan, Richard Spencer, Stephen Miller, Stephen Miller’s toupee, and Bernie Sanders.

  43. 43.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @cain:

    Makes sense since Trump is only acting as president

    This comment is one for the ages. A keeper.

  44. 44.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Suzanne:

    I haven’t been able to abide her since the first time I saw her testify in front of a Congressional committee. Creepy beyond belief from jump.

  45. 45.

    J R in WV

    From below thread:

    Dear Secretary (ret.) Kirstjen Neilsen:

    This is to formally invite you to attend the Monaco F1 Grand Prix races next year, as the guest of Prince Albert II and Princess Charlene. You are welcome to bring up to 3 relatives or friends, and will have a suite in the Palais du Prince for your convenience.

    Of course you will view the races from the Royal Balcony overlooking the race’s finish line in the company of Prince Albert II and Princess Charlene.

    We recommend you travel via KLM and arrive through Amsterdam’s airport, where the Prince’s private jet will meet you for transit to Monaco proper!

    Thank you for sharing your presence with the Royal family of the Principality of Monaco!!

    With warmest regards;

    Chancellor of the Principality of Monaco
    Raphael Antoine Melchior

    Heeheehaha !!!

    And welcome to The Hague you corrupt witch!!!

  46. 46.

    Kamala.Harris.2020

    I’ve never once heard a reporter ask Potus on camera if he knows that USA signed the 1967 United Nations protocol/treaty on asylum /refugees. Intl law. Anyone has a right to apply (approval is difficult at best). Does he understand that? Could you ask? Seems not.

    As bad as Trump and his crew are, the US press is even worse.

    For the most part, they have been utterly cowed by Trump. There should be reports yelling questions at him whenever he is out of the cocoon of the oval office.

  47. 47.

    J R in WV

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Good fucking riddance, you unspeakable bitch.

    Well said, Subaru Dianne. I would add one word, between “unspeakable” and “bitch”: “despicable” needs to be in there.

    Thanks for the eloquence.

  51. 51.

    Cheryl Rofer

  53. 53.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @J R in WV:
    @Suzanne:
    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    I would call her feckless, worthless, and useless, only that she has actively done unutterable damage as DHS Sec. I do hope that she, and Kelly, and Trump, will eventually face the 21st-century version of the Nuremberg Trials. But I’m not holding my breath.

  54. 54.

    piratedan

    may she be separated from her means of income as long as one child remains separated from their parents.

  55. 55.

    Steeplejack

    Note: New Unforgotten on PBS tonight. Check your listings.

    “When the body of a teenage girl who went missing at the turn of the millennium is found at a building site off the M1 motorway, four men are placed under the spotlight.” Nicola Walker, Sanjeev Bhaskar.

    ETA: This is Season 3. Previous two seasons available on Amazon Prime. Recommended.

  56. 56.

    Keith P.

    So who wants to guess that the next secretary of homeland security will be ‘acting’ for the rest of Trump’s term?

    This is something that really pisses me off – the GOP didn’t put up with recess appointments done the same way, so they sued and won. All decisions made by the recess secretary were nullified. However, the GOP does the same thing via “acting” secretaries, and all the Dems do is go to CNN and complain every other month.

  58. 58.

    MomSense

    @Steeplejack:

    Are you watching Mrs. Wilson? I’ve heard the first episode is really good and the actor is playing her own grandmother.

  69. 69.

    tokyokie

    @TaMara (HFG):

    Fuck her and everyone who enable this human rights abomination.

    Is it still a human rights violation when you consider the victims to be subhuman?

  70. 70.

    lgerard

    @Bill Arnold:

    I think he’s dangerous because he’s managed to become a DJ Trump earworm

    It’s not just trump..I saw Ivanka being quoted calling Miller “an encyclopedia of policy” a few months back so it is clear he is sucking up to them as a means to an end.

  72. 72.

    J R in WV

    @B.B.A.:

    @J R in WV: @Dorothy A. Winsor: THE HAGUE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOOD NIGHT!

    We all know that. Why are you raining on our parade attempting to lighten the mood of people not in favor of genocide?

  73. 73.

    Jay

    So, Kelly’s Girlfriend, Kristen the She Wolf, was more than willing to build the Concentration Camps, Rape Camps, Child Trafficing sites, and fill them,

    But decided building and running the gas chambers and crematorium’s a bridge too far?

  76. 76.

    Steeplejack

    @Barbara:

    You’re in the DMV, I think? WETA is showing it multiple times during the day tomorrow, and WMPT is showing it at 10:00 p.m. Tuesday.

    It might be available on WETA Passport, if you’re a subscriber.

  77. 77.

    WaterGirl

    @Steeplejack: So is there sort of a different story or plot line for each season? So you don’t need to have seen the previous seasons to pick right up on season 3?

  78. 78.

    Steeplejack

    @MomSense:

    I missed the first episode (which was really the first two episodes as shown here), so I’m holding off on the third episode until I can catch 1-2 tomorrow night. I’m looking forward to it; I loved Ruth Wilson as the crazy psycho in Luther.

  79. 79.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Donny Dumb Ass thinks this is just an episode of the Apprentice. Watch it Trump announces a “winner” October next year.

  80. 80.

    Steeplejack

    @WaterGirl:

    Yeah, right. Each season—four or six episodes, can’t remember which—is one case, and you don’t have to have seen the first two seasons to pick up on this one. Basically, it’s the cold-case squad that gets called in when some old body or skeleton is found.

    The characters have some personal side details that get developed, but nothing major. The plots are pretty good, the ensemble acting is good, and Nicola Walker (River, Last Tango in Halifax) is great.

  82. 82.

    Ruckus

    @debbie:
    Not listening,
    Not understanding,
    Not giving a shit
    Actively wanting to hurt people…..
    That’s our president.

  83. 83.

    Ruckus

    @cain:
    He’s not acting as president.
    He’s acting as a spoiled fucking brat being told that he can’t do the reality TV show he wants to do.

  84. 84.

    WaterGirl

    @Steeplejack:I have Season 1, episodes 2 and 3 on Tivo, but I am missing episode one so I have never watched it yet. I also have all 3 episodes of Season 2. It looks like season 3 will have 6 episodes.

    So glad to know it’s safe to watch it out of order and to know that I can watch my missing episode on Amazon Prime. Amazon Prime can FINALLY be watched through Apple TV, so it’s much less annoying than it used to be.

  85. 85.

    rk

    Ordinarily I would be happy that an evil person was gone. But I feel nothing because I know she’ll be replaced by someone more evil. Who but an absolutely deplorable human being would want that job. So we wait for things to become worse.

  86. 86.

    Steeplejack

    @WaterGirl:

    IMDB has each season as six one-hour episodes. Maybe PBS ran them in two-hour blocks? I can’t remember from when they were first on.

  88. 88.

    Sherparick

    Just a technical note, but Attila the Hun was an unauthorized immigrant into the Roman Empire. He was following the footsteps of Alaric, King of the Goths, who defeated & killed the Roman equivalent of Trump in 378 C.E. at Adrianople.

  89. 89.

    Plato

    @Kamala.Harris.2020:

    The same 3rd rate media didn’t have any qualms shouting out shitty questions at this thug’s predecessor. The 4th estate are truly the 5th columnists.

  90. 90.

    Achrachno

    @cain: “Makes sense since Trump is only acting as president.”

    He doesn’t act like any president I’m aware of.

  93. 93.

    plato

    Another resignation: Anthony Zinni, a retired Marine Corps general and former head of U.S. Central Command … is the latest four-star general to exit the admin.
    Zinni resigned after realizing he could not help resolve the Qatar dispute, he told CBS News. https://t.co/FpGhjgcvIw— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 8, 2019

  94. 94.

    Miss Bianca

    @Jay:

    So, Kelly’s Girlfriend, Kristen the She Wolf, was more than willing to build the Concentration Camps, Rape Camps, Child Trafficing sites, and fill them,

    But decided building and running the gas chambers and crematorium’s a bridge too far?

    She’s one of the good ones.

  96. 96.

    plato

    Zinni resignation follows departure of top-level military officials Mattis and McGurk. Trump admin creating a dangerous vacuum; one outcome may be increased privatization of military with mercenaries like Erik Prince https://t.co/PHBZYcLth7— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) January 8, 2019

  97. 97.

    plato

    The Holocaust was legal. Slavery was legal. Segregation was legal.
    People who hid Jews in their homes were criminalized. People who freed slaves were criminalized. People who stood up for equality and justice were criminalized.
    Legality is not a guide for morality!
    — StanceGrounded (@_SJPeace_) April 7, 2019

  98. 98.

    randy khan

    With this news, the Trump Cabinet is down to 2 women (out of 15); if you count other Cabinet-level positions (and Linda McMahon’s pending resignation), it’s 3 out of 22. I don’t think Obama ever was below 4 Cabinet members or 7 Cabinet-level positions.

  99. 99.

    dmsilev

    @randy khan: Betsy deVos and Elaine Chao, right? deVos is her own brand of awful, but Chao has managed to slide beneath the radar. Not that Transportation is usually a hugely controversial posting, but under this Administration I suppose we should be grateful for what little we can get.

  101. 101.

    Duane

    @lgerard: “An encyclopedia of policy.” WTF does that even mean? An encyclopedia is considered to contain reliably true information. Nothing about Miller’s policies are anything like that.

  103. 103.

    Jay

    @Duane:

    It means the people calling Steven “Incel” Miller an “encyclopedia of policy” are dumber than a flaming bag of shit, and that the Incel has his fingers in all the pies.

  104. 104.

    chopper

    this makes me think trump wants to actually legit shit down the border and that policy was too much for her. talk me down.

  107. 107.

    H.E.Wolf

    @chopper:

    this makes me think trump wants to actually legit shit down the border

    Your typo is more accurate than the correct spelling would have been. Well played. :)

  108. 108.

    Ken

    @B.B.A.:

    THE HAGUE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!

    Like anyone in this administration knows how the Hague, or any other governmental organization, works.

  109. 109.

    chopper

    @H.E.Wolf:

    ironically my phone finally decided to stop with the autocorrecting of all the cusses, even the accidental ones. i guess the ghost of steve jobs finally gave up trying to police my writing.

  110. 110.

    jl

    Heard a news report that ‘WH sources say’ Trump wants to toughen up on his immigration stance to get ready for 2020 election campaign. IIRC, Trumpsters and GOP tried immigration and xenophobic scare and ‘get tough’ campaigns to win in 2018, and that approach bombed big time. So, they want to do it again? I guess so. Maybe that is a good sign for the 2020 election, if not for the US policy over next 31 months.

    Actually, to be precise, you can go to timeanddate.com and see that the next inauguration when we hope Trump goes away is 15673 hours from right now.

  113. 113.

    Duane

    @Uncle Cosmo: Is a necronomocon a stinking abandoned sewer pond filled with rabid alligators, deadly poisonous frogs and forty-foot multi- headed pythons? Somewhere beneath all that lies Miller’s policies.

  114. 114.

    sukabi

    @Duane: when you consider his “policy encyclopedia” comes straight from Hitler’s Germany circa 1930s -40s it makes perfect sense.

  115. 115.

    WaterGirl

    @Steeplejack: Interesting. Tivo can show you all episodes, even if you don’t have them recorded – and it showed the first two seasons as only 3 episodes, so I thought I had the all (but the first one).

    Will have to do some research on that tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.

  116. 116.

    gvg

    @Amir Khalid: He is surrounded by people who don’t care about the law. He has fired the ones who tell him no. Some don’t care about the law, some don’t know and those that do know and care (maybe only they don’t want to go to jail) are trying not to tell him know, even if they are smart enough to not actually follow his orders. He will never understand he doesn’t own the US the way he owned Trump company and he didn’t obey the law then.

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