“Tongue so firmly in cheek as to protrude from the vulgar bodily orifice” (R.A. Lafferty)
OK, I've accomplished all that any man can dream of. I'm the king of the world! https://t.co/QCpwAt0sfS
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) April 17, 2019
I just noticed that it's the FOURTH ANNUAL cruise specially catering to people who hate me. Not only have I achieved something amazing, I have staying power.
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) April 17, 2019
This is incredible and I want someone to go and report on it: https://t.co/JEEntBBSNh https://t.co/WHeB8SXhJZ
— Brendan Nyhan (@BrendanNyhan) April 17, 2019
You haven’t really made it until an entire cruise ship is devoted to dissing you.
— Charles Gaba (@charles_gaba) April 17, 2019
You're a job creator!
— Arkenor (@Arkenor) April 17, 2019
The boat sinks.
— TonyD (@Dogger55) April 17, 2019
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh36: I’ve been wondering about a new Ellsburg, wondering if anyone on the Mueller team is old enough and rich enough to just say “fuck it”
lamh36
shouldn’t fuq’n be “likely” should be ab-so-fuqn-lutely!!
Jerzy Russian
This is a real thing? I guess going on a cruise beats meeting at the Howard Johnson somewhere in the midwest.
Gin & Tonic
So because I’m an idiot, I posted my obsessive-compulsive request for info earlier today in the “Bernie Sucks!” thread, thinking I might distract people from the “Bernie Sucks!” posts. I failed. Being also persistent, I’ll try again. If you know San Francisco, read this and help me out.
Since it’s an open thread and the west coast people are awake, I’ll try to deal with an obsession. I’ve been re-watching the Coppola-Hackman The Conversation. It opens with a 3+ minute tracking shot of Union Square in San Francisco (the only scene in the released movie actually filmed by Haskell Wexler, who was fired by Coppola early on, but that’s immaterial.) The scene is here
Anyway, I’ve been in San Francisco and know the area, but not as well as a native. The scene, according to the script, is lunchtime, in December. Now you can’t close Union Square, so judging by the length of the shadows it was shot at the crack of dawn. But if I have the position right, the camera is high above Stockton, and that’s Geary on the left. The Post St side is higher, as I recall, which is why the right side is more shadowed. But the angle of the shadows doesn’t make sense – it’s almost as if the sun is a bit to the north, which isn’t possible, and most certainly not in December. What do I have wrong? I’m obsessed and it’s bothering me.
Gravenstone
@Jerzy Russian: Norovirus for everyone!
mrmoshpotato
A whole cruise dedicated to hatred of you. Dr. Krugman has made it!
Baud
@lamh36: I think I’ll pick the candidate that can resist Fox.
Anne Laurie
@Jerzy Russian:
Looks like in the Statler-and-Waldorf-critique-their-fellow-Muppets sense, it’s real.
Because the demographic that wants to communally HMPH! HMPH! at that bleeding-heart-liberal-commie-anarchist Krugman is also the foremost cruise-ship-ticket-buying demographic, so why not combine the two?
lamh36
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: If she– or any other Dem who’s tempted– goes in there with some carefully planned comments about how Fox prime time stokes racism and otherwise engages in fear-mongering and demagoguery, I’ll be okay with it. I will also be shocked.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh36: the well-sourced Carol Leonnig is reporting on the Hayes show right now says the report will be “lightly redacted”, and cites the same word, “granular” detail
eemom
@Gin & Tonic:
Furthermore….what about the grassy knoll??
#justtryingtohelp
?BillinGlendaleCA
@eemom: Leave Ted Cruz’s dad out of this.
?BillinGlendaleCA
Congratulations to Professor Krugman, bet this beats that stinky foreign Nobel Prize.
Gin & Tonic
@eemom: This is bothering the shit out of me.
#yourenothelpingatall
opiejeanne
@lamh36: Klobuchar is a fool to do this. Nothing good will come from it. No Democrat should be giving Fox the time of day.
Jay
@Jerzy Russian:
Social media has monetized hate, it’s also monetized ignorance.
So a couple of guys with a podcast, can spread to books, a you tube channel, and fill a boat load of suckers,
Be it flat earthers or Krugman haters.
zhena gogolia
@eemom:
You beat me to it, I was going to suggest he consult Mr. Zapruder.
Dan B
Would it be crass to suggest that someone get hired as a cook and then fake a measles rash?
Or how about the entertainers leap out of a cake in Krugman mask spewing fire and sulfurous odors.
Nevermind… that will be the entertainment finale.
lamh36
Maxine Waters scorches Trump administration for Mueller antics: ‘President and his minions are ridiculous’
video at link
Barbara
They appear to charter a small Royal Caribbean ship and embark from Fort Lauderdale. What a waste of a chance to get away from politics for a few days.
Gin & Tonic
@zhena gogolia: Unfortunately, Abe’s been dead nearly 50 years now.
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
@Gin & Tonic: Wish I could help, but my familiarity of that city is far too dated. I’m eager to hear someone who can answer, since I do understand the question (I think).
#sorrynohelpatall
opiejeanne
@Gin & Tonic: I watched that scene, it’s great, but when I think about the shadows it was disorienting. There wasn’t enough information on the screen for me in that scene.
chris
@Gin & Tonic: Never been to SF but I have seen what movie lighting can do. Musco was founded two years after your film but the technology was there. Amazing what 50,000 watts of light can do. The Musco Light was, maybe still is, a generator on a truck with five 10K lights on a boom. It could make a city block of daylight at night. Or Coppola moved the sun… ;-)
Jay
@Dan B:
It’s a boat full of Libertarians, so there’s already going to be easily vaccinated against diseases aboard.
Another Scott
@Gin & Tonic: ReelSF:
The “now” picture shows the same rough direction of the shadow as in the film (but clearly at a different time of day).
HTH a little!
Cheers,
Scott.
HeleninEire
@Baud: Honestly. Do they think they are going to pick up Fox viewer’s votes? WTF?
Jay
@HeleninEire:
https://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2019/04/do-fox-news-two-step.html?m=1
Gin & Tonic
@Another Scott: OK, so if it was filmed from the St. Francis, those angles could make sense if it was being filmed just about at sunset. That would be Post St on the left, not Geary. I had it “upside down.” I just thought in terms of film logistics it would be much, much easier to control Union Square at dawn than at dusk. But then again, this was Coppola.
Thanks for finding that.
Steeplejack
The little tangle of threads around the Contra Krugman cruise is hilarious. Someone suggested they could do a whole series featuring all the Times columnists. Someone said Thomas Friedman’s would be in a water taxi. Then this:
Obvious Russian Troll
@Gin & Tonic: Another thing to keep in mind is that Hollywood sometimes shoots at night and uses lighting to make it look like day (and vice versa). No idea if they did it for that scene.
For instance, see:
https://film-lighting.wonderhowto.com/how-to/shoot-day-for-night-and-night-for-day-for-movie-making-161973/
Gin & Tonic
@Obvious Russian Troll: Yeah, I know that, and can usually pick it out. Look at that tracking shot, though – there’s no way it was artificially lit.
Mathguy
Reading the libertarian crazies that try to troll Krugman (very poorly) on the Twitter thread was fascinating. I didn’t realize there is an entire industry devoted to tell Krugman that he’s wrong. The Texas Tech nut sounds especially annoying.
I went HS with a similar type of person that became an academic in political studies (I hate calling it a science). The blind spots in their thinking are a mile wide.
trnc
https://twitter.com/AnarchoXP/status/[email protected]Steeplejack:
My personal favorite shows once again that libertarians don’t actually understand how the thing they hate so much actually works, so they have to completely make shit up to get to the most contrived punchline ever.
https://twitter.com/AnarchoXP/status/1118260724688728065
Steeplejack
@trnc:
Definitely a trip down the rabbit hole.
What gets me is their black-hole level of lack of self-awareness. No amount of mockery or refutation makes them think, “Hmm, maybe I should rethink this a bit.” They always double, triple and quadruple down. And their critics are always idiots or willfully misrepresenting their airtight arguments. A hand-wave suffices for Krugman’s Nobel Prize. It’s really something.
opiejeanne
@Another Scott: Thanks for that. I couldn’t decide which way the camera was facing, other than down.
opiejeanne
@Gin & Tonic: I haven’t been able to locate the band in the square. I thought they were at the lower right of the Dewey monument, but I’m not sure. That was bugging me as much as anything.
Bill Arnold
@Obvious Russian Troll:
It’s all contrived. E.g. for me scenes involving computers (e.g. hacking), field botany, physics/astronomy and a few more esoteric subjects are generally at best disbelief un-suspendors, at worst cringe-inducing.
Re the OP, I seriously wonder if/hope that the Contra Krugman cruise lectures are recorded.
Vhh
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Back in the day, neither Ellsberg nor Mark Felt (aka Deep Throat) were rich nor old. But both the WaPo and the NYT held firm. These days the NYT is wobbly (“both sides”) but WaPo under Bezos has been good.
Jay
@Bill Arnold:
YouTubed.
Sadly, unlike other Nazi Cruises, apparently no body not a true believer has bothered to take the “Cruise” and provide a critique.
Probably because of the communical diseases.
karen marie
@Steeplejack: This is hilarious.
A water taxi. Hahaha.
Huntly
Paul should totally sign up to go on the cruise!
Citizen_X
*Petitioning the Navy to name an attack sub the U.S.S. Paul Krugman.*