Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

It’s time for the GOP to dust off that post-2012 autopsy, completely ignore it, and light the party on fire again.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

Everybody saw this coming.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

In my day, never was longer.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

You can’t love your country only when you win.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

He really is that stupid.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

The GOP is a fucking disgrace.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

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  1. 1.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Videos appear to show armed militia detaining migrants at US-Mexico border

    Armed rightwing militia members detained a large group of migrants at the US-Mexico border and coordinated with US border patrol agents to have them arrested, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, in a series of actions the civil liberties organization called a “kidnapping” and a flagrant violation of the law.

    Several videos taken at the border in New Mexico this week appeared to show men belonging to a group that calls itself the United Constitutional Patriots approaching migrant families and children, ordering them to sit down, calling federal agents on them, and at one point potentially misrepresenting themselves by saying “border patrol” as they approached.

    “The Trump administration’s vile racism has emboldened white nationalists and fascists to flagrantly violate the law,” the ACLU of New Mexico said in a letter to the state’s governor and attorney general, urging them to “immediately investigate this atrocious and unlawful conduct”.

    The ACLU described the group as “an armed fascist militia organization” made up of “vigilantes” working to “kidnap and detain people seeking asylum” and accused the group of directly making illegal arrests.

    Houston? We have a problem.

  4. 4.

    OzarkHillbilly

    There are times when we discover a word that maybe we didn’t even realise we needed, but after we are inducted we’d feel lost without. For me, this word – or one of them – is petrichor. The Oxford English Dictionary defines petrichor as: “A pleasant, distinctive smell frequently accompanying the first rain after a long period of warm, dry weather in certain regions.”
    …………………………..
    Enter: petrichor. The science bit involves an oil trapped under dry soil and rock during the hot weather being released to the surface by moisture. For me, petrichor smells like renewal. It’s the rain equivalent of throwing a big, soapy bucket of water across grubby paving stones. Or a dog emerging from a lake and shaking itself down ready for the next adventure. It signals birth, resetting, resumption.

    The word was coined in 1964 by scientists in Australia. It comes from the Greek for stone, “petra” and, rather brilliantly, the word “ichor”, which is used to describe the mythological blood of the Gods. So the oil released becomes the “blood of the stone”.

    The smell had been identified and even utilised in India. There it was referred to as “earth perfume” or matti ka attar and perfumers bottled the smell and added it to their creations.

  10. 10.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Over the past 20 years Frank DeAngelis has learned to be respectful of the month of April. His anxiety levels spike at this time of year, sometimes so badly he fears he is having a heart attack. He has had no fewer than six car crashes, always in April. That’s not counting the three times, also in April, when he backed his vehicle out of his garage without having opened the garage door.

    “That’s when I knew I needed help,” he said.

    DeAngelis remembers 20 April 1999 as a beautiful spring day. The principal of Columbine high school in suburban Denver, Colorado, he was working in his office at 11.19am when his assistant burst in reporting gunfire in the building.

  12. 12.

    NotMax

    FYI.

    Kim Jong-un to meet Putin for 1st time in Russia, Kremlin says

    North Korea demands U.S. remove Pompeo from nuclear talks Source

  13. 13.

    NotMax

    A passing noted.

    America’s first female astronaut candidate, pilot Jerrie Cobb, who pushed for equality in space but never reached its heights, has died.

    Cobb died in Florida at age 88 on March 18 following a brief illness. News of her death came Thursday [April 18] from journalist Miles O’Brien, serving as a family spokesman.

    In 1961, Cobb became the first woman to pass astronaut testing.…
    [snip]
    Instead of making her an astronaut, NASA tapped her as a consultant to talk up the space program. She was dismissed one week after commenting: “I’m the most unconsulted consultant in any government agency.” Source

  14. 14.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Patricia Kayden:

    “There’s very dangerous people here. That’s the reason we carry guns,”

    He’s right about one thing, there are very dangerous people there. Now if he would just get up and leave, that problem would at least be partially solved.

  16. 16.

    NotMax

    Shaky ground.

    By the time you finish reading this article, two earthquakes will likely have rippled through Southern California.

    This estimate comes from a new study, published […] in Science, that dug through seismic data between 2008 and 2017 and found that Southern California experienced a startling 1.81 million temblors during that decade. That’s an order of magnitude more than previously documented, with an earthquake striking roughly every three minutes.
    [snip]
    The previous catalog for 2008 to 2017 for Southern California contained 180,000 earthquakes and was nearly complete for events greater than magnitude 1.7. But using template matching backed by supercomputing power, the new catalog expands that number to 1.81 million events and is nearly complete for quakes as small as magnitude 0.3. Source

  18. 18.

    Immanentize

    Hello All! I had my head down at work all day yesterday. Did the Sanhedrin hand over Jesus to the Romans?

  19. 19.

    OzarkHillbilly

    After Trump fired James Comey, the White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders repeatedly claimed in live press briefings that the rank and file of the FBI had lost confidence in the FBI director, and that “we’ve heard from countless members of the FBI” who did not support him.

    Those statements had no basis in fact, Sanders later admitted in interviews with special counsel Robert Mueller’s office.

    No shit. We didn’t need 2 years of a special counsel investigation to know that Sanders lies every time her lips move.

  22. 22.

    JPL

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    The militia action comes amid reports of law enforcement aggressively cracking down on a different class of volunteers at the border – people helping migrants in need. People who have left water for migrants and helped border crossers facing health crises have increasingly faced criminal prosecution.

    Leaving water is bad, but kidnapping is okay.

  24. 24.

    debbie

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Someone better ask her at her next conference, “Why should we believe you now, Sarah, when you have admitted you were dishonest in the past?”

  25. 25.

    Baud

    In terms of scandal, the Mueller report catapults the Trump administration to 0.6 on the Tan Suit scale.

  31. 31.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Baud:

    the Tan Suit scale.

    I had to google the “tan suit (pronounced su-eet) scale”. Just thought you should know you got me.

  32. 32.

    Immanentize

    @Baud: you only say it’s a 0.6 because you are a Trump hater. Clearly not comparable! And feet on the resolute desk!

  33. 33.

    John S.

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Presidenting while black and wearing a tan suit is a serious offense.

    Whereas presidenting while white and doing whatever the $&@! you want is totally cool.

  35. 35.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Bill Clinton picked up Kama Sutra in gift shop, says Emily Maitlis

    BBC Newsnight presenter once spotted former US president perusing ancient erotic text

    Head? Meet desk. After all these years, with the twin dumpster fires of trump in DC and Brexshit in London, the genocide in Yemen and the outbreak of an uncivil war in Libya, the burning of Notre Dame and the release of the Mueller report, you still treat Bill’s horndog behavior as news worth reporting on?

  40. 40.

    Patricia Kayden

    Rep Omar has a good sense of humor given all that she’s been through. Love her.

  45. 45.

    trnc

    What do all the assholes braying in the Jill Lawrence twitter thread expect Pelosi to do while congress is out for the holidays?

  47. 47.

    satby

    Am I the only person on earth who deeply resents every business entity trying to force me into a separate app just to interact online with them? Now it’s my credit union. I can’t log into my account from my Kindle, which I have done for years, because it’s forcing me to download their app, which isn’t available for Kindle.
    Yes, I can download it on my phone, but I don’t want to. I hate that.

  48. 48.

    Baud

    @satby:

    I heard an ad this morning for the 7/11 app. :-\

    I’ve never heard of a financial institution requiring an app and shutting down web access. That’s nuts.

  49. 49.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Immanentize: I read about that. The article said they had divers from Arkansas help with the rescue. I know a couple so I wondered if I know them or not.

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I have considered getting on twitter for the express purpose of knocking down Dunning Kruger-ed idiot assholes but am always stopped by the fact that I would be purposefully inserting assholes into my life and that would be even even more idiotic than anything they might say.

  52. 52.

    Baud

    @trnc: Too many people get off in telling Dems they’re doing it wrong. Sometimes they’re right but most of the time, it’s all about self-gratification.

  55. 55.

    satby

    @Baud: it’s probably available from my laptop because it would be detected as a non mobile device. But I don’t use my laptop every day and don’t want to have to boot it up just for a one minute bank account check (I check every day since a miskeyed account snafu once drained $2k I didn’t have from my account, not the account the withdrawal was supposed to go against).

  56. 56.

    trnc

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I have considered getting on twitter for the express purpose of knocking down Dunning Kruger-ed idiot assholes but am always stopped by the fact that I would be purposefully inserting assholes into my life and that would be even even more idiotic than anything they might say.

    Amen, brother.

  61. 61.

    satby

    @satby: The bigger issue is the idea that we all need to clutter up our mobile devices with stupid custom software apps that offer very little value but sap storage and processing power.

  67. 67.

    Kay

    We could really use a public report on the elections systems interference. Election officials scrub voter rolls. Republicans do this aggressively as a part of their disenfranchisement campaign but all states do it- voters move or die, obviously.
    On election day in Ohio there’s a set of pages of voters who have already voted absentee that’s given to poll workers that day- when the voter arrives you check those pages and if they’ve already voted you tell them they can’t vote (again).
    That would be the way to rig an election. They actually got in in Illinois and Florida according to the Mueller report. Now, I don’t know if they got in to the extent that they could alter the lists – the voter file that is updated constantly and that election officials and poll workers use for just about everything – but that would be the way to do it.
    This is the purview of the FBI. We should get some kind of progress report. I’d like to have a separate independent investigation just into election systems interference, informed and directed by elections systems experts, with a detailed report released to the public.

  69. 69.

    satby

    @OzarkHillbilly: I would, but they caught up with my deadbeat ex once he started collecting SS, and so now child support arrearages owed me are direct deposited there. From 25 years ago.
    He fled to Texas because their c.s. enforcement was weak. But that’s one of the states that charges interest on the unpaid balance. Smartest guy in the room, he was.

  71. 71.

    mrmoshpotato

    @satby: Nope. Kind of related, I find it hilarious that delivery services will deliver Subway. I can’t sneeze without hitting a Subway.

  72. 72.

    NotMax

    @satby

    Not a problem with the newest Samsung $2000 fold-o-phones. They’ll break before you’ll have a chance to install the apps.

    ;)

    Two freaking grand for a phone. How nuts are people anyway? (rhetorical)

  75. 75.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Kay:

    This is the purview of the FBI.

    The various state elections officials should not be allowed to wait for a report from trump’s DoJ, to whom the FBI reports. They need to taking steps now.

  78. 78.

    Baud

    @NotMax:

    Ordinary people don’t buy that phone.

    In fairness, it’s the first model of a brand new tech. Those always suck.

  80. 80.

    Leto

    @satby: I feel that way about streaming services. Netflix and Hulu were there to serve as aggregate services so I didn’t need to have an HBO, CBS, DC Universe, Disney, etc… service. It’s going to wind up like cable, with hundreds of useless channels. There are shows I’d like to watch on all of those, but I simply don’t have the $$$ to spend for all of them. I’d like to watch the new Star Trek, or the new Patrick Stewart led Star Trek, or Doom Patrol… oh well.

    This is also what’s going to lead an uptick in online piracy. Can’t wait to hear the bitching/moaning about that.

  81. 81.

    mrmoshpotato

    @NotMax: Dammit NotMax! That kind of news needs a hold-your-eyeballs-in warning.

    Or is the phone free with a 50-year contract?

  82. 82.

    rikyrah

    @Kay:

    I will continue to say this:

    The test run for 2016 were the Kansas state races the year before. The results never made any sense,. They never matched the polling. Had to have a state where there was voter suppression laws in place, because that is where you can scapegoat the reduction in voter rolls.

  85. 85.

    NotMax

    @satby

    Gee, if I need to check a bank balance, I pick up the landline, call the 24/7 bank service, punch in a few numbers and am done in less than a minute.

    @Baud

    Those always suck.

    Generally speaking the product functions as advetrised longer than two days.

  87. 87.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @satby: Kind of a funny story from the other side: After I made my last child support payment I got a call from the state saying by their accounting I had over paid by $10,000 and some change (by my figuring it was actually more along the lines of $40-50K what with covering various shenanigans she had pulled but that my sons would pay for).

    “Thanx guys, couldn’t you have told me this last year?”

    They also said I’d have to sue her for it. Of course, by that point she was doing a 7 year stint in Chillicothe.

  88. 88.

    Baud

    @NotMax:

    Yeah, but the tech here isn’t just software, but hardware that’s designed to move. Still, much work to be done by Samsung.

  89. 89.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Baud: And they’re heavy.

    “Are they heavy?”
    “Yeah.”
    “Then they’re expensive. Put ’em back.”

  90. 90.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Patricia Kayden: Some people like heroin, some prefer cocaine, still others like nothing better than a trip down LSD lane, but for these assholes, nothing beats the high they get from demonstrating the inherent white male superiority that comes from the barrel of a gun.

  91. 91.

    Kay

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Absolutely. But it makes more sense to have a national investigation. Collect it all in one place and they can all use the information. One of the problems with having a system like the US, where states are all distinct, walled off entities is they make the same mistakes other states have made over and over. That thing conservatives say “the laboratories of the states”? That would be fine if it actually worked or happened, if it was a “laboratory”, but it doesn’t. They do the same dumb things in each state after it has already failed in another.
    You’re wholly reliant on Florida in a Presidential election. Connecticut can do a bang up job and it doesn’t make a bit of difference. You, as one voter, have a crucial interest in each states election system.
    Voting is one of the areas where the liberal argument is so much the better argument that NO ONE should use the conservative approach. It won’t work. Treating states like islands in our current system of voting means the national system will fail, because they don’t even recognize that there is a national system. Their approach is ludicrous.
    It’s like conservatives are saying “air traffic control should be done state by state, because, states rights”. Okay, crazy person. Thanks for your input. Now can someone else set up a national system before these planes collide?

  93. 93.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Kay:

    But it makes more sense to have a national investigation.

    Absolutely. My point is only that any report on it from the FBI isn’t likely to be released by the DoJ until February 2021.

  96. 96.

    Amir Khalid

    @NotMax:
    That’s something I’ve been wondering about. In the first place, who really needs a US$2K phone that will be obsolete in a year or so? And what happened to phablets*?

    *Stupid name.

  98. 98.

    satby

    @OzarkHillbilly: that totally deserves a blech!
    It’s schadenfreude-istic, but I needed the money when it was due. I remember telling the DCFS guy (required to register in IL in a divorce even if not collecting welfare) that. The kids needed stuff that they went without.

  99. 99.

    Kay

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I wish I had more faith in the FBI. Ever since they couldn’t catch the abortion clinic bomber who was leisurely camping and hiking for two years I have felt maybe their skill was exaggerated. This might be unfair, but WTF with that bomber? I don’t know, after that. I felt I had been misled about the Secret Service when I found out there was some nutjob at the bottom of the stairs during Obama’s term. At the stairs! Their kids were up there. How does that happen?

  100. 100.

    NotMax

    @Amir Khalid

    And what happened to phablets?

    They’re off hobnobbing and communing with the Newtons.

    (Which was a pretty good product, all things considered. Hobbled by being ahead of its time.)

  102. 102.

    Matt McIrvin

    Have we heard from Bernie yet?

    (Or Joe Biden? I guess he’s not running until next week.)

  103. 103.

    SFAW

    I get a daily “digest” from the Boston Glob, giving the key headlines and editorials in their rag, plus a sentence or two to get you to click.

    Here are some of the Op-Eds from today:
    The legal dispute between William Barr and Robert Mueller: Barr gets the better of the argument, both from a constitutional and policy perspective … [This is from noted Traitor-in-Chief idolater Dershowitz]
    Watching his back, Trump lets down our guard The man with the constitutional responsibility to protect this country repeatedly tried to thwart the investigation. [This from the jeenyuses on the Editorial Board. Someone needs to explain that a President’s responsibility is to support and defend the Constitution. But since the Glob has become a right/center rag, I am not surprised they don’t know the difference.]

    I guess I should be reassured that the Glob is still reliably conservative/Rethug-lite.

  107. 107.

    Immanentize

    @rikyrah:

    Erik Prince helped fund effort to obtain Hillary Clinton’s emails

    That sounds oddly like solicitation of a crime to me.

    But his reward for paying for hacking was the top job at Ed. for his even dumber sister.

  110. 110.

    NotMax

    @NotMax

    Want that receipt in my occasionally hot, wizened hands. Have been burned in the past by the “we never received it” tango.

  111. 111.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Kay: I think that as with intelligence agencies, law enforcement has become to enamored with technology. Technology is great, it can aid in ways that were unimaginable in the past, but it can’t replace human intelligence or logic.

  113. 113.

    Kay

    @Immanentize:

    Russian government/plutocrats mentioned DeVos as a way to portray Prince as influential in the Trump Administration. Which they probably heard from Prince, establishing his clout as a “player”.

    These people are fucking appalling. They’re all simultaneously promoting themselves and Trump. There’s always, always a self interest angle. They now all want to be portrayed as “guardrails” keeping Trump in line, but that is of course self-interested, so I’ll need more than whatever practiced liars told a prosecutor before I believe that self-serving depiction.

  115. 115.

    SFAW

    @NotMax:

    Close but no cigar. Pay by check in person. (Phone service is part of the cable/ISP bill.)

    Do you get there in your horse-and-carriage? Or do you just saddle up, because a buggy is an extravagance?

  116. 116.

    Leto

    @NotMax: Haha, that’s even funnier for some reason! We’ve used our banking services app, in conjunction, for the past ten years or so. USAA makes it really easy. The two years we lived in Italy, all of our bills (rent, gas, water, electricity, internet), were paid in cash either at the bank or the tobacco store. Fun times :)

  122. 122.

    SFAW

    @rikyrah:
    Interesting question(s), but I was under they impression they did it not because of Bernie’s policies, but because it would weaken Hillary. Same reason they (probably) helped out Jill Stein, I’m assuming.

  130. 130.

    Raven

    @SFAW: I got a bunch when I went to the LA Olympics in 84 and there was a forgery scare and I had to take my mother to her bank to cash them!

  132. 132.

    Kay

    In a way the Mueller report evens one score for me. The thing about the Wikileaks interference was it was one sided. We had an enormous amount of information on Clinton and none on Trump. As a practical matter that’s a huge advantage in a contest between two- we had Clinton’s info, we didn’t have Trumps. It just isn’t a fair fight.

    Now we finally have some of Trumps, and parts of it are embarrassing, and parts of it are potentially criminal, and most of it makes you want to take a shower these people are so sleazy and gross, but in a way it evens up some of the information disparity that Donald Trump so hugely benefited from. And we got it in time for the 2020 election.

    We were comparing two, and one was essentially publicly stripped naked and the other was not. He had a huge advantage and the Russians and Wikileaks gave it to him. Mueller gave us the other side. The side we should have had in ’16.

  134. 134.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @NotMax: They definitely are not alone. Point to any facet of society and you can probably find similar tendencies. My wife works in tech and as much as she complains about this exact thing, she engages in it too. “Look what this new thingamabob can do!”

    “Honey? I’ve been doing that exact thing since I was in grade school using only my fingers and my brain.”

  137. 137.

    Kay

    I also wish I had more confidence in the information Facebook provided in the report, as far as Russian government/plutocrats campaigning for Trump. Good Lord. I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them. At this point they’re like a serial corporate bad actor. They have about the same credibility with me as the Trump Administration.

  139. 139.

    NotMax

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Related.

    vWhether it’s from tv screens, video screens, computers, laptops, tablets, or phones, a new study suggests pre-schoolers behaviour is negatively affected when they spend a few hours in front of these devices. Source

  142. 142.

    Nicole

    @NotMax: Thanks. That’s sad news. I first read about her in the 1990s, when Jane Magazine, I think it was (talk about the 90s!) ran a piece on the Mercury 13. I even read the transcripts from the 1962 subcommittee congressional hearing about the possibility of women as astronauts. I remember John Glenn… did not acquit himself nobly.

  146. 146.

    Kay

    The funniest part of the Mueller report is all these people earnestly pretending Sarah Sanders was some kind of stickler for truth. Guffaw. They lie in real time, every day. They lie when there’s a crawl underneath debunking the specific lie they’re telling. Mueller didn’t have to catch her in a lie. Everyone can, and has.

  148. 148.

    raven

    @Leto: We have all are stuff with them except the our local bank accounts. In the last year we had 4 substantial hail claims and a 5k repair on our brand new Kia. They have always been awesome but 20 years ago their online was really creaky. I love the dual authentication
    and the fingerprint on my phone

  150. 150.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @rikyrah: That’s just grandstanding on Putin’s, we can be dysfunctional all by ourselves. Remember Americans actually voted for a game show host with an absurd comb over as president of the US because they were upset that the previous president was too competent.

  151. 151.

    brantl

    “You don’t need to have been convicted of a crime. Impeachment isn’t about punishment. It’s about cleansing the office.”

    But he was talking then, about a democrat, right? TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

  153. 153.

    cmorenc

    Meanwhile, Fox is sticking to Barr’s script that the Mueller Report exonerated Trump and the whole investigation was a purely political attack on his Presidency. Ken Starr’s commentary on the matter at Fox is a stunning piece of grotesquely mendacious hypocricy.

    Just saying, if you try to discuss this with a RW Fox-watching relative, you’re going to run into a stone wall of wilful disinformed stubborn ignorance. Of course, you knew that, but Fox’s effort to bury the whole thing under a sea of blatant disinformation and deflection is more stunningly vile than usual.

  154. 154.

    Immanentize

    @NotMax: I prefer:
    Nobody can get any sleep
    There’s someone on everybody’s toes
    When Quinn the Eskimo gets here
    Ev’rybody’s gonna doz(s?)e

  155. 155.

    Kay

    Dave Weigel
    ‏Verified account
    @daveweigel
    14h14 hours ago
    More
    Some candidate intros: “I’m running because I’m angry. I’m running because you’re angry.” And: “Trump needs someone to support him because, let’s face it, he’s the only one doing anything up there.”

    This could get interesting and good for us. There won’t be any coverage because all the rest of the herd are following the NYTimes on “Dems in disarray” but Republicans have congressional elections coming up and the Trumpists will probably run against the incumbents. I know you’re thinking “they’re all Trumpists!” and that is true but the GOP electorate is (of course) ANGRY (again) so they’re not Trumpist enough. I know it’s easy to forget but there ARE congressional Republicans. They don’t do any work, but they do have to run every 2 or 6 years. They may or may not be in disarray. We’ll have to search that out.

  158. 158.

    Jamey

    Turns out actual facts were the easter eggs hidden in the redacted Barr edition of the Mueller report. Whooknoo!?

  159. 159.

    Kay

    And if they do run as “Republicans aren’t pro-Trump enough”, they have to amp up the Trump rhetoric even more than the low quality hires in his administration do, which could help in senate races, which aren’t gerrymandered.

  161. 161.

    Leto

    @Kay: So these candidates will form their own roving vigilante “boarder patrols” to show just how racist tough they are against people fleeing horrible violence browns and blacks? Can’t wait. ?

    (For Notmax, who’s still using a dial-up connection, that’s an emoji on the end. It’s an annoyed face. Wanted to make sure you knew what that code scribble was there at the end ?)

  162. 162.

    NotMax

    @Immanentize

    Still makes gobs more sense than

    Spill the wine and take that pearl
    Spill the wine and take that pearl
    Spill the wine and take that pearl
    Spill the wine and take that pearl

    :)

  163. 163.

    NotMax

    @Leto

    I’ll grudgingly admit the passage of years has made operation of the pedal powered computer more of a chore.

    Ludditez rool.

    ;)

  165. 165.

    Nicole

    @NotMax:

    Flash from the past. The Time Congress Banned the Braille Edition of Playboy.

    Thus taking it away from the only people who read it for the articles.

  168. 168.

    bemused

    @rikyrah:

    There are just too damn many assholes in this country. I hate that I find myself looking at people I just meet or run into and wondering “Are you one of those vile cretins too?”. I hate even more that I wonder the same thing about people I do know.

  169. 169.

    Central Planning

    @NotMax:

    By the time you finish reading this article, two earthquakes will likely have rippled through Southern California.

    I stopped reading… just doing my part to save California.

  170. 170.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @rikyrah: I haven’t had a chance to go through the whole thread – & with that caveat, allow me to hazard a guess as to what that passage really means:

    In the course of the counterintelligence investigation, the IC has shown our investigators unimpeachable (;^D) evidence that sheds additional light on (or cast in a new light) the events described in the report – up to & including indictable & impeachable offenses committed by Agolf Twitler.

    However, the IC declined to permit the inclusion of such evidence in this report in order not to reveal to persons hostile to the United States (including some in positions of authority in the US government) information that might compromise intelligence gathering sources & methods critical to the protection of the integrity of the United States & its allies.

    That sound plausible to yinz?

    IMO a lot of what the IC knows for a fact about the depths of sedition & depravity of the Tang DyedNasty will not see the light of day until & unless the intelligence network is restructured & rerouted & human assets protected. Which might mean 2050 CE or so. I just hope I’m alive & compos mentis enough to savor it when that happens.

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    Another Scott

    @Nicole: I guess the (roughly) “We have to stick together – we’re not competing against each other, we’re competing against monkeys!” didn’t apply to women in the group.

    Unsurprising. :-(

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    japa21

    @Uncle Cosmo: Sounds plausible to me. After all, how would Mueller know they were lying unless he had evidence of what they were lying about? And it stands to reason that of he had that evidence he would have presented it unless there were reasons he couldn’t, such as you point out.

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    Villago Delenda Est

    Burn the motherfucking Vichy Times to the fucking ground. Take no prisoners. Salt the earth it stood on.

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    James E Powell

    @NotMax:

    What I heard back in the day was that “spill the wine” refers to an orgasm and “pearl” refers to female anatomy. Then again, the explanation I heard might have been total bullshit.

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    JustRuss

    So did FTFNYT realize they got played or did they realize their attempt to assist Barr in undermining the report was losing traction fast?

    I’d really like to read an insider’s account of how the Times’ editorial sausage gets made.

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