Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

Celebrate the fucking wins.

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

Quote tweet friends, screenshot enemies.

Well, whatever it is, it’s better than being a Republican.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

He seems like a smart guy, but JFC, what a dick!

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

He wakes up lying, and he lies all day.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

One way or another, he’s a liar.

Trump’s cabinet: like a magic 8 ball that only gives wrong answers.

Books are my comfort food!

Just because you believe it, that does not make it true.

You are either for trump or for democracy. Pick one.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Let me file that under fuck it.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

75% of people clapping liked the show!

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

Second rate reporter says what?

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Late Night Election 2020 Open Thread: Go Home, Moulton, You’re High on Your Own Supply

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As I’ve said before, Seth Moulton would be a perfectly adequate ‘Rockefeller Republican’ candidate, if only such a creature still existed, even in the toniest MA exurbs. And if he’d chosen to run in the GOP primary — maybe as Bill Weld’s VP — I might even have sent him a few bucks. But as it is, well…

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  1. 1.

    Jerzy Russian

    I don’t mind if he runs as long as he does not trash other Democrats and shuts the fuck up after his candidacy goes down in flames.

  9. 9.

    Anne Laurie

    @plato: Front-pagers get special exemption from the spam filter. (And, while I freed your original comment, I’m not sure the content was worth the effort.)

  12. 12.

    KithKanan

    @NotMax: Joementum?

    ETA: Not that I think Moulton can manage anything close to a three way tie for third place in any of the primaries.

  22. 22.

    Sebastian

    Memo to self: never get in a situation where PopeHat creates multiple names for you.

    Savage.

  25. 25.

    Anne Laurie

    @Elizabelle:

    Interesting that he’s not running again for Congress. At this time.

    After he got scorched for his failed coup against Madame Pelosi, a number of potential Dem challengers let it be known they’d be more than happy to run against him. His district is RINO-friendly — it’s where financial people who want to own horses & still commute to Boston live — but the memory of ‘fiscally conservative, socially liberal’ Repubs grows dimmer with every election.

    This being MA, Seth doesn’t have to file papers for re-election until relatively late in the cycle, and I’m sure he’s got the relevant dates marked on his calendar just in case.

  26. 26.

    John Revolta

    So lemme get this straight. The front pagers get pen1s whenever they want, whilst we lowly jackals have to make do with whatever peeniz substitutes we can come up with? I feel cheap and used.

  31. 31.

    Amir Khalid

    There needs to be a Balloon Juice betting pool on when and how Seth Moulton says/does the stupid thing that sends him crashing out of the race for POTUS, with the proceeds going to an animal shelter* of the winner’s choice.

    *Or other presidential candidate

  37. 37.

    Mel

    @Elizabelle: Isn’t it, though?

    I’m as put off by his awkward, not-so-subtly sexist pandering and his attempts to bill himself as a hipster “disruptor” as I am by the fact that he looks like a bit like the love child of Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.

    Take a look at the photo from the Buzzfeed link in the post. Do you see it? Now that I’ve seen it, he’s likely to people my nightmares along with Cruz in his mime gear.

  38. 38.

    Jay

    @opiejeanne:

    White rice here is saved for SWMBO’s Thai cooking and Sushi.

    Everything else is brown rice.

    Sometimes toasted before cooking.

  40. 40.

    Damien

    Serious question: is Seth Moulton literally delusional?

    I’m listening to his interview with Rachel Maddow and I sincerely cannot even.

  46. 46.

    Mel

    @Jay: No, no, no!! Don’t ruin a good imaginary cat o’ nine tails by association with the Slime Mime!
    And with that thought, I must now go gouge out my eyes. Oh, the horror!

  47. 47.

    prob50

    @NotMax: Hey, I LIKE Tapioca. My Mom useta make it back when I was little – poured it into special little dessert cups and then chilled them in the fridge. Comfort food for me today.

  48. 48.

    VeniceRiley

    Skipping politics for tonight in order to be in a great mood to watch the first episode of Gentleman Jack was a brilliant move on my part. If you got HBO for GOT you also get this show. Based on a real person and just wonderful. I loved it. Tie it into the thread? Sure: White pen1s keeps ruining her love life!

  49. 49.

    Sab

    Does that cute gray tuxedo cat in SanJose in the earlier thread have a new potential home yet?

  50. 50.

    eclare

    @VeniceRiley: I saw that listed, but I hadn’t heard anything about it, no actors doing the late night shows, etc. Thanks for the recommendation!

  54. 54.

    Mel

    @VeniceRiley: Thanks much for the suggestion! I didn’t know HBO had a show about Lister in the works, and it looks really good! On top of all the other interesting things she did, she was a serious mountaineer – the first woman to scale Mt. Perdido (third highest peak in the Pyrenees).

  55. 55.

    Mel

    @Sab: That is happy news! Sweet senior kitties are the best, and he sounds like such an affectionate, people-focused little guy,

  59. 59.

    Sab

    @Mel: Rehoming senior cats is a problem, not because of them , but because of everyone else.

    My Dad’s cat moved in with my Dad ten years ago. He was a stray adopted into our neighbors very neglectful home. He preferred Dad’s house. I told him at the time that moving in with an 84 year old guy was possibly not the best career move. He ignored me.

    Eight years later, after my Mom had died and we moved my Dad into a nursing home the cat’s life isn’t what he wants. But he still has a home and food, and a family who loves him ( with a clowder of cats who don’t) and he had eight years as the center of my Dad’s world.

    Beats sitting outside in subzero weather because your adoptive family has out-of-town visitors who don’t like cats.

  60. 60.

    VeniceRiley

    @Mel:

    Thanks much for the suggestion! I didn’t know HBO had a show about Lister in the works, and it looks really good! On top of all the other interesting things she did, she was a serious mountaineer – the first woman to scale Mt. Perdido (third highest peak in the Pyrenees).

    Really? Wow! I know next to nothing about her, but am excited to find out. Nevermind the actor playing her is just incredibly sexy to my lez eye. Plus I love period costume drama expertly done by the Englsh

  61. 61.

    Elizabelle

    @Amir Khalid:

    premature — for him — end.

    Laughing.

    @VeniceRiley: FTF NY Times gave Gentleman Jack a great review. And a previous article about its writer/co-director, Sally Wainwright (Last Tango in Halifax), who has long been interested in Anne Lister’s journals. Show is 17 years in the making.

    Had never heard of Ms. Lister, and what an ahead of her time woman. Hoping it comes to Netflix or AmazonPrime eventually (no HBO).

    Aha. Oprah magazine spotlights the show as well, with excellent links to further information about Anne and her country estate, etc.

    Such a dreary time to be a woman. (And not even the “Victorian” era yet.) I am glad to hear of anyone who surmounted the challenges, and it’s usually someone unconventional.

  63. 63.

    VeniceRiley

    @Elizabelle: The thing to do is give up netflix for a couple months for HBO so you can get this and GOT then drop it and go back to Netflix. I’m going to start doing that sort of thing more and more.

  65. 65.

    Elizabelle

    @Sab: Your guess is excellent. 9:58 am.

    Sipping a final coffee and then to get in a walk. Glorious weather for several days now in Bavaria. Was in Nurnberg for the Easter market on Saturday. Sunday we discovered that my friend’s new tiny town has a lot to offer with walks, a parcourse, and a closeby restaurant that she likes (she is picky). Really a charming little place.

    MSNBC on in the breakfast rooms; unfortunately it’s always Chris Matthews for me, but good to see the Mueller report is front and center.

    Shoes gonna be dropping for months and months.

    ETA: I want a piano, safe, tons and tons of stuff to fall on Trump, Mitch McConnell, Justice Kennedy, all the bad actors. Investigate, investigate, investigate.

  66. 66.

    Elizabelle

    @VeniceRiley: I’m still not even on Netflix! But enjoy it when hotels and friends have it.

    Still barely using Amazon Prime. But thanks for the suggestion. It’s a good one.

  67. 67.

    Sab

    @Elizabelle: Hope so, re dropping shoes. Spouse and I, politically aligned, shrieking at each other constantly about when shoes drop. Most contentious time in my 19 year marriage, and we are basicaly on the same side. When will we impeach?

    I blame Republicans for endangering my marriage with their misbehavior.

    So Europeans who watch America see MSNBC not Faux. Misleading but heartening.

  68. 68.

    Elizabelle

    @Sab: Am on a military base this month, so am heartened to see MSNBC on. It is preferred to CNN here, at least by the staff that sets the TV controls.

    Nancy Pelosi knows what she is doing. Investigate, investigate, investigate. Pressure will build for impeachment. Make it a tough vote for Republican senators NOT to impeach. Time is in our favor. It is not in Republicans’, or Trump’s, as awful as stuff may happen in the interim. Dog knows what Barr has planned next, but at least there is no longer the (never earned) presumption that he is a neutral actor.

    I am more and more interested in Justice Kennedy, in Citizens United, on WHY the money spigot to Republicans dried up in 2018 midterms. It’s not just the NRA, although glad to see them in fits. Look at them all. Investigate the Mercers. Let it all come out.

  71. 71.

    Chris

    @Jerzy Russian:

    Absolutely this.

    Unfortunately, the fact that his first act in Washington was to try and kick out Pelosi doesn’t sound like a promising start.

  72. 72.

    Chris

    @Elizabelle:

    I have a different view. I don’t think there’s any chance in hell that Republicans will impeach no matter what, because I don’t think there’s a chance in hell of enough Republican voters supporting it. I support continuous investigations all the same, partly on general principle but partly because the simple drip drip drip background noise has an impact on low infos. This is what hurt Hillary Clinton the most, and it’ll do the same here. Make sure John Q. Citizen can’t turn in the news any day between now and 2020 without hearing some version of “Trump investigated,” “Trump scandal,” “Trump corruption” and whatnot.

  73. 73.

    prob50

    @Elizabelle:

    I want a piano, safe, tons and tons of stuff to fall on Trump, Mitch McConnell, Justice Kennedy, all the bad actors. Investigate, investigate, investigate.

    Sounds like a job for The Road Runner. Beep-Beep.

  75. 75.

    L85NJGT

    Did he position himself as a rockafella republican? His CV is security state drone. One with bad parliamentary skills, and seemingly not interested putting in the time on the career grind.

  76. 76.

    TD

    This is the lesson we learned from Trump- reduce your opponent to one vulgar trait and harp on it over and over? We learned from the Tea party that it’s better to hound out people who win in favor of the more pure who lose? He challenged Pelosi and she had a public victory that showcased how really good she is at this. And he’s a Democrat representing a Republican county. If you don’t want to vote for him, don’t. If you like someone better, talk them up.

  80. 80.

    Ruckus

    The EW thread above this one is borked for me. Opens with half the screen blacked out and does nothing.

  81. 81.

    DonkeyKong

    Seth Moultan is the type of replicant Harrison Ford wouldn’t bother hunting down and “retiring”

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