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You are here: Home / Nature & Respite / Nature / 2nd place finisher decries Derby results

2nd place finisher decries Derby results

by Betty Cracker|  May 5, 201910:32 am| 102 Comments

This post is in: Nature, Open Threads, Assholes, General Stupidity

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You’d think if anyone would blithely accept the elevation of a second-place finisher over the first, it would be Pendejo Naranja, but no:

Does anyone know what prompted the fool to babble about “political correctness” in this context? I don’t think the disqualified horse is white…

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  1. 1.

    Chief Oshkosh

    May 5, 2019 at 10:34 am

    Nothing deep; he lost a bet.

  2. 2.

    Mike R

    May 5, 2019 at 10:39 am

    Got to keep the base aggrieved, he sure can’t discus substantive issues, unless it is what pant load he has because his diaper hasn’t been emptied. The base is so stupid they only hear buzz words, relationship to reality not a requirement.

  3. 3.

    marklar

    May 5, 2019 at 10:39 am

    Maximum Security’s lane shift produced NO OBSTRUCTION!!! There was NO COLLISION!!!!

  4. 4.

    RoonieRoo

    May 5, 2019 at 10:43 am

    The name of the winner that was ousted is Maximum Security. I’m assuming the nutter thinks it was about the name?

  5. 5.

    germy

    May 5, 2019 at 10:46 am

    My guess is he saw people complaining about it on the Fox network.

  6. 6.

    Baud

    May 5, 2019 at 10:46 am

    Pendejo Naranja

    A mí me gusta.

  7. 7.

    Baud

    May 5, 2019 at 10:49 am

    Trump would hate short track speed skating.

  8. 8.

    FelonyGovt

    May 5, 2019 at 10:49 am

    He seems to feel like his job is to be the nation’s loudmouth at the office water cooler commenting on yesterday’s sports. Such a shallow, worthless individual.

  9. 9.

    JPL

    May 5, 2019 at 10:50 am

    @marklar: There was no collusion because they were not bright enough to know they were colluding.

  10. 10.

    JPL

    May 5, 2019 at 10:51 am

    Will the state now install new signs declaring it is the state of Kentuky

  11. 11.

    Neldob

    May 5, 2019 at 10:52 am

    Apropos of my first coffee: Ginia Bellafante’s article in the nyt today is good. Yikes. Our justice system needs an infrastructure week, because it’s infrastructure is so weak. And monstrous. Now I’m all agro.

  12. 12.

    Mike in NC

    May 5, 2019 at 10:53 am

    Maybe the Turtle should brief Fat Bastard on how to spell the name of his state correctly.

  13. 13.

    NotoriousJRT

    May 5, 2019 at 10:58 am

    Playing by the rules is now an exercise in “political correctness.” See how that works? If I win by not playing by the rules that govern the game and get called on it, I am a victim of the political correctness bogeyman. I bleat and pound the ground with my fists and feet, and hope that people question rules and norms rather than my failure to respect them.

  14. 14.

    Betty Cracker

    May 5, 2019 at 11:03 am

    @NotoriousJRT: That rings true. The role “political correctness” grievance played in 2016 is underestimated, IMO. It encompasses racism, sexism, xenophobia, etc., but seems to be endlessly elastic.

  15. 15.

    plato

    May 5, 2019 at 11:05 am

    No body caught the Kentucky misspelling?

    What an uncouth illiterate thug.

  16. 16.

    StringOnAStick

    May 5, 2019 at 11:05 am

    @NotoriousJRT: Sometimes I wonder if I’m just as nuts as they are when I see authoritarian modes of behavior as part of their ruling plan, but you just described it perfectly. Destroying norms is a full time job and must involve all aspects of social life and society.

  17. 17.

    who

    May 5, 2019 at 11:07 am

    @marklar:

    You actually made me laugh out loud.

    For those of you unaware of the actual reason for the disqualification–Maximum Security was disqualified for effectively obstructing Country House by bumping two other horses into its way during the race.

  18. 18.

    JPL

    May 5, 2019 at 11:09 am

    Mueller is testifying in front of the House on May 15th. Today will be a day of mean tweets, unlike the other days.

  19. 19.

    Brachiator

    May 5, 2019 at 11:10 am

    So I guess Trump won’t be inviting the winning horse to the White House for hay burgers.

  20. 20.

    cmorenc

    May 5, 2019 at 11:14 am

    @Brachiator:

    So I guess Trump won’t be inviting the winning horse to the White House for hay burgers.

    OTOH, Trump frequently invites horse’s asses to the White House.

  21. 21.

    JPL

    May 5, 2019 at 11:15 am

    @cmorenc: They are the only ones that will show up without being coerced.

  22. 22.

    A Streeter

    May 5, 2019 at 11:16 am

    @Mike in NC:

    state of Kentuky

    Um, “Commonwealth of Kentuky”?

  23. 23.

    debbie

    May 5, 2019 at 11:17 am

    “Rough and tumble” horse racing? Then you be the horse next time, you asshole.

  24. 24.

    Aleta

    May 5, 2019 at 11:17 am

    How does your brain ever sleep with all those flowers like Pendejo Naranja popping up.

  25. 25.

    schrodingers_cat

    May 5, 2019 at 11:21 am

    Betty Cracker@top
    Love what you have done with his face. And thanks for protecting us from his visage.

  26. 26.

    luc

    May 5, 2019 at 11:21 am

    The coastal elites have forced the “ck” long enough on the upstanding citizens of Kentuky.

  27. 27.

    The Dangerman

    May 5, 2019 at 11:22 am

    Does anyone know what prompted the fool to babble about “political correctness” in this context?

    He’s had a giant grievance “Wheel of Fortune” installed in the White House; first he decides what he wants to bitch about (Facebook, Kentucky Derby), then he spins the wheel to decide what to blame (“Facebook is mean to conservatives; very unfair”, “political correctness”).

    It doesn’t have to make sense; it’s simply whatever the wheel lands on. It’s buzzword bingo in it’s most distilled form, like a fine Kentucky Bourbon.

    When I posted yesterday that Trump was gonna bitch about the horserace; I figured, no, not really. I guess I underestimated him.

    Hopefully, he never lands on the wheel slot that says “Invade Venezuela”.

    ETA: Wheel slot, Donald. SLOT. Stormy isn’t visiting you in the White House. Carry on, Sir.

  28. 28.

    MattF

    May 5, 2019 at 11:22 am

    Um, since when has Trump’s Twitter avatar been a surprised pig? Ah, wait… I can see now that there’s some unauthorized superposition there. Carry on.

  29. 29.

    Brachiator

    May 5, 2019 at 11:25 am

    @plato:

    No body caught the Kentucky misspelling?

    No White House staffer is going to tell Trump that he is wrong, or *gasp* made a mistake about something.

  30. 30.

    SFAW

    May 5, 2019 at 11:26 am

    @JPL:

    Will the state now install new signs declaring it is the state of Kentuky

    Isn’t Kentuky a Commonwelth? I mean, in name, not in reality, but still …

    ETA: I see Streeter beat me to it

  31. 31.

    MattF

    May 5, 2019 at 11:27 am

    @plato:

    What an uncouth illiterate thug.

    And those are his attractive qualities.

  32. 32.

    Aleta

    May 5, 2019 at 11:28 am

    Another of his confessions by projection.
    The best person did not win the Presidency — not even close!

  33. 33.

    SFAW

    May 5, 2019 at 11:30 am

    @cmorenc:

    Trump frequently invites horse’s asses to the White House.

    He doesn’t want to be the only one there, I assume.

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    May 5, 2019 at 11:31 am

    @JPL: Do we know if it be public testimony or not?

  35. 35.

    NotoriousJRT

    May 5, 2019 at 11:32 am

    @Aleta:
    Yup.

  36. 36.

    SFAW

    May 5, 2019 at 11:33 am

    @MattF:

    Um, since when has Trump’s Twitter avatar been a surprised pig?

    “Surprised”? Looks more like the wide-eyed stare of a moron.

    “What should we do about global warming?”
    “Whu-u-u-t?”
    “What do you want to do about the economic threat from China?”
    “Whu-u-u-u-t?
    and so on.

  37. 37.

    Kattails

    May 5, 2019 at 11:35 am

    @The Dangerman: “..giant grievance Wheel of Fortune”–delightful. That got an out-loud laugh.
    @NotoriousJRT: Yes, of course. We’ve been missing it all along. If sports didn’t have any stupid rules, it would be impossible to cheat. See, rules create criminals. No rules, no cheating, no criminals, no collusion. Perfectly logical.
    I’mma gonna go eat my nice corn muffins that have now cooled enough.

  38. 38.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 5, 2019 at 11:38 am

    @Brachiator:

    So I guess Trump won’t be inviting the winning horse to the White House for hay burgers.

    Pretty sure that’s hay berders.

  39. 39.

    Barbara

    May 5, 2019 at 11:39 am

    Thanks everyone for being so funny on a rainy morning. I am still mourning Ruffian so I haven’t watched the Derby for a long time.

  40. 40.

    Kathleen

    May 5, 2019 at 11:44 am

    @cmorenc:

    OTOH, Trump frequently invites horse’s asses to the White House.

    He’s known to hire them also.

  41. 41.

    Kathleen

    May 5, 2019 at 11:47 am

    Speaking of Kenfuckty, Ozark posted comment in garden thread below about 5G’s impact on accurate weather forecasting. This New Yorker article reviews the potential for massive security breaches and other issues related to 5G rollout (hint: it really is terrifying, as in we are so Kenfucktied):

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-communications/the-terrifying-potential-of-the-5g-network

  42. 42.

    Aleta

    May 5, 2019 at 11:47 am

    Some big bettors lost money. Since he didn’t profit from that, he identifies with the gamblers. Therefore someone cheated. The tweet-jockey of the OO told him he can’t call the track a cheat. Synonym for cheating … political correctness.

  43. 43.

    L85NJGT

    May 5, 2019 at 11:49 am

    @Brachiator:

    It’s a shot at the Senate majority leader. Yes, the are that craven and petty.

  44. 44.

    Amir Khalid

    May 5, 2019 at 11:49 am

    I look forward to learning about the states of Luisiana, Missisipi, Masachusets, and Califonia.

  45. 45.

    JPL

    May 5, 2019 at 11:49 am

    @WaterGirl: One assumes. It’s possible that trump interferes with the planned testimony though. I imagine fox will air the caravans coming from Central America that day.

    I have baby duty the fifteenth, so it might interfere with the babies walk. Oh well even a three month old needs to adapt in the age of trump.

  46. 46.

    MattF

    May 5, 2019 at 11:51 am

    @Kathleen: There’s a lot of hype about 5G. Comm engineers I’ve spoken to say it’ll (maybe, in principle) be useful in densely populated areas. But maybe not, since signals at the 5G frequencies are blocked by… tall buildings.

  47. 47.

    Kathleen

    May 5, 2019 at 11:59 am

    @MattF: I was hoping to hear from Juicers who work with networks or in some related capacity (no pun intended). Thanks for weighing in! I think the article mentions that as well. But the security concerns it outlines are terrifying.

  48. 48.

    FlipYrWhig

    May 5, 2019 at 12:01 pm

    “Political correctness” means a lot of things. Sometimes it means “we can’t say Christmas or call people ‘homos’ anymore.” But I think what it’s supposed to mean here is “snowflake losers whining that things are unfair.” Because Republicans all think that they are hardworking and tough-minded. Even Trump, who is the laziest, whiniest baby who ever babied.

  49. 49.

    trollhattan

    May 5, 2019 at 12:03 pm

    @JPL:
    Watch for new state seal:
    “Things are just duky
    In Ken tuky”

  50. 50.

    Aleta

    May 5, 2019 at 12:04 pm

    He misses those better days. When riders slashed each other’s faces with whips and no one worried about horses going down. “PC!” probably includes the horse-huggers who talk about closing the Santa Ana track.

  51. 51.

    trollhattan

    May 5, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    @MattF:
    It’s the B-Cracker enhancement he so warrants.

  52. 52.

    Mike in Pasadena

    May 5, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    Good call by the stewards. The rule prevents the killing of horses and jockeys. Political correctness is a criticism employed by people who think all rules are unfair and exist only to protect the weak. Mr. T is pathetic. We already knew that.

  53. 53.

    MattF

    May 5, 2019 at 12:08 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: I think the ‘political correctness’ comment follows from the basic assumption that anything that happens anywhere is really about Donald Trump and the disrespectful treatment he gets from ungrateful losers. It’s Trumpian axiomatics.

  54. 54.

    CFlyte

    May 5, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    I’m depressed to admit that I have now witnessed so much of Trump’s “thinking” that I already knew yesterday he would have something stupid to say about this for the following Trumpian reasons:

    1. Everyone saw that there was a clear winner of the race and everyone is saying that no one cares if rules were broken in the race because all that matters is winning.
    2. Only losers play by the rules. Rules were made to be broken–by winners.
    3. A bunch of know-nothing officials (liars and haters) stuck their noses in to enforce rules that no one cares about just to take a well-deserved victory away from the real winner.
    4. The chief of these officials is a nasty woman who just did it because she’s a lying hater who doesn’t know anything about how to win.
    5. These officials should be investigated. Lock them up!

    Now do you understand why this pissed him off? He’s taking it personally.

  55. 55.

    Baud

    May 5, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    @Brachiator:

    The horse declined.

  56. 56.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    May 5, 2019 at 12:22 pm

    @Mike in NC: Speaking of evil turtles, why has he disappeared so thoroughly and completely from our headlines and awareness? He is just as evil doing just as much damage to democracy. But we appear to have stopped paying attention.

  57. 57.

    karen marie

    May 5, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    Bill Mott, the trainer of Country House, told NBC during the 15-minute review of the foul claim that he thought Maximum Security would be disqualified if it was a maiden race on a weekday, not the Kentucky Derby.

    Why would it matter what race it is? Do rules change or are they relaxed during major competitions in other sports? Seems to me, if a rule was violated that would result in disqualification in a routine race, the judges did the right thing. Another article I read said the two horses who were affected by the lane change would have placed in the top 3 but for the incident.

  58. 58.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    May 5, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Missisipi

    I think native pronunciation is “Missipi”, which simplifies the reformed spelling even more.

  59. 59.

    karen marie

    May 5, 2019 at 12:27 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: “We” haven’t stopped paying attention but for some reason the media has never been interested in scrutinizing or even doing basic reporting about McConnell. It’s always baffled me.

  60. 60.

    FlipYrWhig

    May 5, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    @karen marie: Isn’t that what he means, though? That he’s pleasantly surprised the judges enforced the rules as they would for a common race that no one particularly cares about, even when adjudicating the most high-profile race in the sport?

  61. 61.

    sukabi

    May 5, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    Betty, he’s probably pissed because he lost $$ on the disqualified horse.

  62. 62.

    FlipYrWhig

    May 5, 2019 at 12:30 pm

    @karen marie: I don’t get that either. He should be at least as much a hate figure as Nancy Pelosi is to Republicans.

  63. 63.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 5, 2019 at 12:30 pm

    @cmorenc: Grifting fundigelical offal, for example.

  64. 64.

    NotoriousJRT

    May 5, 2019 at 12:31 pm

    @Barbara:
    Me, too.

  65. 65.

    Aleta

    May 5, 2019 at 12:31 pm

    Horses and riders going down is part of the fun of a day at the track for someone without empathy. Political correctness to a bully is about interference with his desires.

  66. 66.

    Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman)

    May 5, 2019 at 12:32 pm

    @karen marie:

    Why would it matter what race it is? Do rules change or are they relaxed during major competitions in other sports? Seems to me, if a rule was violated that would result in disqualification in a routine race, the judges did the right thing.

    Before he retired, there was a joke floating around that Michael Jordan would have to book a flight on Expedia in order to get called for travelling.
    It’s not so much an official rule relaxation as the officials tend to “not see” violations for certain players.
    At least that is what it seems like to me.

  67. 67.

    Millard Filmore

    May 5, 2019 at 12:36 pm

    @Aleta:

    talk about closing the Santa Ana track.

    Do you mean the Santa Anita track?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/california-considers-the-unthinkable-canceling-horse-racing-at-santa-anita-park/2019/04/11/28608498-5af1-11e9-a00e-050dc7b82693_story.html

  68. 68.

    Barbara

    May 5, 2019 at 12:45 pm

    @karen marie: It is the same thing when people gripe during championship games in any sport that the refs should just let everyone play the game, never mind how blatant the foul. This is usually the hue and cry of the losing team’s supporters. Unless you lost because the ref failed to call a penalty on the other side. Then you have a different way of seeing things.

  69. 69.

    Ruckus

    May 5, 2019 at 1:02 pm

    @cmorenc:
    He will invite them only if they are not as big a horse’s ass as he is. He is the biggest, bestest horse’s ass and no one should forget that, especially all the other horse’s asses.

  70. 70.

    JR

    May 5, 2019 at 1:03 pm

    @karen marie: speaking for the NBA, fouls are typically less frequently enforced during the playoffs.

  71. 71.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 5, 2019 at 1:06 pm

    @Chief Oshkosh: Nothing deep; he lost a bet.

    I had the same thought. And whichever crony (Tom Barrak? Jared? MBS?) tried to bribe him by giving him the favorite will now say they can’t accept tainted winnings

  72. 72.

    Emma

    May 5, 2019 at 1:06 pm

    Folks, I touched base with my friend in Kentucky, whose family has been in racing for generations. It was clear to her that in fact Maximum Security was startled by the roar of noise as he came around the bend and stumbled into the path of the other horses. It’s called interference, and whether intentional or not, it’s a disqualifier. A lot of the big time players lost moolah. Mind you, whoever bet on Country House made a bundle: $163 to 1.

  73. 73.

    Tazj

    May 5, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Most of the media gives him a pass. He’s just going to what he does to support Republicans no matter how evil that might be. The media doesn’t frame it that way of course. They’ll say he’s just crafty and experienced and outsmarting the Democrats again.
    I was just thinking about it this morning. Why isn’t the media harassing the Republicans about Trump? I know they’ll just brush everything aside but hardly any pressure has been put on them to answer for Trump. Why does the administration want Obamacare repealed when millions of people will lose insurance and the Republicans lost in the 2018 elections because of this?
    Instead you just gets stories like the Democrats better hope their questioning of Mueller doesn’t backfire or independents hate talk of impeachment.
    The Republicans have no responsibility to save Democracy I guess.

  74. 74.

    Ruckus

    May 5, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    @Kattails:

    If sports didn’t have any stupid rules, it would be impossible to cheat. See, rules create criminals. No rules, no cheating, no criminals, no collusion. Perfectly logical.

    I see you’ve met a particular competitor we had in the professional sport that I worked in. Was caught several times blatantly cheating, and found out the price for that. But of course none of what he got caught for was his fault. It was all my fault for catching him. BTW he’s a mega asshole in case that obvious point hadn’t occurred to anyone.

  75. 75.

    Brachiator

    May 5, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    @Kathleen:

    This New Yorker article reviews the potential for massive security breaches and other issues related to 5G rollout (hint: it really is terrifying, as in we are so Kenfucktied)

    And these security concerns have already caused a mess in the UK. From BBC News:

    Gavin Williamson has been sacked as defence secretary following an inquiry into a leak from a top-level National Security Council meeting.

    Downing Street said the PM had “lost confidence in his ability to serve” and Penny Mordaunt will take on the role.

    The inquiry followed reports over a plan to allow Huawei limited access to help build the UK’s new 5G network.

    Mr Williamson, who has been defence secretary since 2017, “strenuously” denies leaking the information.

    In a meeting with Mr Williamson on Wednesday evening, Theresa May told him she had information that provided “compelling evidence” that he was responsible for the unauthorised disclosure….

    The inquiry into the National Security Council leak began after the Daily Telegraph reported on the Huawei decision and subsequent warnings within cabinet about possible risks to national security over a deal with Huawei.

  76. 76.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    May 5, 2019 at 1:16 pm

    @Tazj: The media seems entirely focused on 2020, which they treat like a horse race with no deeper consequences. All discussion of Trump is framed to analyze how it will affect that. There’s minimal room for discussion of the effect on democracy or on our lives. It might sound like they’re discussing whether Trump violated the law, but that’s a subtext under whether following through will be good or bad for his electoral chances. In itself, it’s treated as if it doesn’t matter

  77. 77.

    Felanius Kootea

    May 5, 2019 at 1:22 pm

    Oh my God I just saw video footage on twitter of the Aeroflot plane that crash landed in Moscow while on fire. It’s surreal to see the plane landing with flames shooting out the back half and black billowing smoke, then people jumping down the emergency slides and running to safety with half of the plane still engulfed in flames. Couldn’t find details on the number of injured in this BBC report here but twitter is saying most survived.

    What a nightmare.

  78. 78.

    BeautifulPlumage

    May 5, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    OT been trying to pull up contacts for front pagers on the mobile site but it is all borked. I’ll send AL proof of life from the Seattle meetup when I can get to a desktop. It was a great meetup!

  79. 79.

    rikyrah

    May 5, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    Just got out of Avengers Endgame ????
    Cried those thug ???

  80. 80.

    Ruckus

    May 5, 2019 at 1:36 pm

    @Tazj:
    @Dorothy A. Winsor:
    Most of the owners/upper level management of major news outlets are wealthy and republican. They feel they benefit from republican politics, even DT’s republican politics. Like the tax break. And anything that gets in the way of them benefitting from that is not to be rewarded with any positive coverage of any kind.
    An example would be the ACA. With reasonable healthcare insurance available to everyone, that hold they might have upon their employees is gone. They don’t give a damn if health issues hurt their employees, they care that removing that power to control their employees in some way is. It’s a numbers game, not a humanity issue to them. Control the workers, control the money. (Where have I heard that before?)

  81. 81.

    debbie

    May 5, 2019 at 1:37 pm

    I just watched the Derby replay. Maximum Security definitely moved outward and bodily interfered with the #1 horse, enough to compromise the horse’s stride. I didn’t see the rider looking backwards, but I guess he could hear a horse was coming up. So, yeah, definitely disqualify, but why not award the win to the horse that was interfered with, the horse that at the moment of interference was in second place? As it was, he came in fourth.

  82. 82.

    Kathleen

    May 5, 2019 at 1:40 pm

    @karen marie: Media Pundlandia too busy reading talking points of the day about cowardly Dems who refuse to (fill in the blanks).

  83. 83.

    dnfree

    May 5, 2019 at 1:41 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Not to mention Illinoy.

  84. 84.

    James E Powell

    May 5, 2019 at 1:49 pm

    @karen marie:

    Why would it matter what race it is? Do rules change or are they relaxed during major competitions in other sports?

    No disrespect, but I have to assume you do not follow any major sports. It is truth universally acknowledged that calls are different during playoffs and championships.

  85. 85.

    Kathleen

    May 5, 2019 at 1:49 pm

    @Brachiator: Issues with Huawei are also addressed at length in the article. What a mess. There was opportunity to integrate security measures into the design and Trump helped to blow it again.

  86. 86.

    Brachiator

    May 5, 2019 at 1:49 pm

    @Ruckus:

    Most of the owners/upper level management of major news outlets are wealthy and republican.

    News media often represent the Establishment, but I don’t know that claims that they are mostly Republican hold up, especially when you include editors. But of course editors ultimately work for publishers.

    An example would be the ACA. With reasonable healthcare insurance available to everyone, that hold they might have upon their employees is gone.

    Newspapers and magazines are dying at an accelerating rate. Even radio, tv and new media are starting to feel the heat. These companies are more concerned about shedding employees as they struggle to survive than they are concerned about dangling health insurance in order to keep them.

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    Aleta

    May 5, 2019 at 1:51 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: which they treat like a horse race with no deeper consequences

    I think that elections have become the sport of kings (though war never stopped being the original).

  88. 88.

    Aleta

    May 5, 2019 at 1:57 pm

    del

  89. 89.

    mrmoshpotato

    May 5, 2019 at 2:02 pm

    @dnfree: HEY! Everyone knows our fine state’s name is Illinoize.

  90. 90.

    thebewilderness

    May 5, 2019 at 2:07 pm

    He thinks the cheater should have won just like he did.

  91. 91.

    Nicole

    May 5, 2019 at 2:08 pm

    @debbie: give me a moment to put my horse racing nerd goggles on…. ?

    Even without the interference, there’s no guarantee that War of Will would have gone on to win the Derby. I personally think it did cost him several spots, but there’s just no way to tell. So stewards do the best they can, which is follow the rules and place the horse that interfered behind the horse they interfered with that had the worst finish. Maximum Security interfered with a couple horses, and Long Range Toddy had the worst finish, so they placed him behind him. Country House is quite possibly the luckiest Kentucky Derby winner in the history of the race, as he really wasn’t interfered with; he just happened to be the beneficiary.

    And I really give the stewards props for treating the race the same as they would a $10,000 maiden claiming race on a weekday.

    Little history trivia: back in 1998, when Real Quiet won the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness, he lost the Belmont by a nose to Victory Gallop. The stewards, it was said later, were really grateful for that nose loss, because Real Quiet had come over on Victory Gallop in the stretch, and had Real Quiet passed the finish line 1st, the stewards would have been put in the position of having to disqualify the first Triple Crown winner in a generation.

  92. 92.

    Kay

    May 5, 2019 at 2:10 pm

    David Cicilline
    ‏Verified account
    @davidcicilline
    Follow Follow @davidcicilline
    More David Cicilline Retweeted Steve Herman
    Just to clarify: we are aiming to bring Mueller in on the 15th, but nothing has been agreed to yet. That’s the date the Committee has proposed, and we hope the Special Counsel will agree to it. Sorry for the confusion.

    I’m pleased. I think he has a duty to appear and testify. Can I make a suggestion though? You know how they say “hold your applause” at events until the end? Since they are probably going to kill an entire hour thanking him individually, why not one joint thank you at the end? They waste so much time. I know it’s unimaginable and foreign to our way of life where we all must jostle for individual acclaim, but couldn’t they work as a team to make these hearings better?

  93. 93.

    sukabi

    May 5, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    they are probably going to kill an entire hour thanking him individually, why not one joint thank you at the end?

    The public hearings are “show” hearings for the masses. By design they are not meant to be comprehensive or informative. They are and have been used for political showboating in the past. Now they are used so the republicans can show how stupid and utterly corrupt they have become.

  94. 94.

    debbie

    May 5, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    @Nicole:

    Thanks. I didn’t know any of those rules, but am glad that the stewards acted as you say they did and followed the rules. I’ve seen jostling before, and I think this went well beyond that.

  95. 95.

    Immanentize

    May 5, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:
    So says Sufjan Stevens

  96. 96.

    sigyn

    May 5, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    @debbie: Right? I’m no expert, but it seems that kind of maneuvering, especially on a slippery track could easily have resulted in tragedy.

  97. 97.

    karen marie

    May 5, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: I was surprised who said it but I was also surprised he was surprised the rule was enforced. It shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. I think that’s the problem – rules are so unevenly enforced that even the team of the unexpected winner is surprised.

  98. 98.

    karen marie

    May 5, 2019 at 2:32 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: Except I was remarking on media coverage not partisan commentary. Although, come to think of it, little of that is focused on McConnell. I am starting to think the Democratic side isn’t very focused on what’s important. This is particularly concerning given the importance of flipping the senate. Because we all know what’s coming, right? A Democratic president will be elected and the Villagers will go on a bender of “look what happens when the president’s party controls Congress, better if the senate has a Republican majority.”

    Kill me now.

  99. 99.

    Nicole

    May 5, 2019 at 2:33 pm

    @debbie: FWIW, I don’t blame the jockey; I think he was telling the truth when he said the crowd noise scared his horse, but in the event of a foul it doesn’t matter if the fault was human or equine.

    Maximum Security was much the best Saturday, but that’s one of the things that is so interesting about horse racing- the best horse often doesn’t win. He’d be a good wager in the Preakness.

  100. 100.

    Ruckus

    May 5, 2019 at 2:37 pm

    @Brachiator:
    I may be wrong here, but.
    You seem to be awarding the acceptance of logic and comprehension thereof to major players, when we’ve seen time and time again that they don’t always possess this.
    Having worked in professional sports, in the rule making and rule enforcement areas specifically I can tell you that there is more than a minor segment of the population that values winning over all other aspects of participation. And that is in every aspect of life, not just participation in sports. And winning can be many areas besides coming in first in sports competition. Wealth, publicity, human “relationships,” to name a few off the top of my head.

  101. 101.

    Steeplejack

    May 5, 2019 at 2:56 pm

    But Country House won the all-important Electoral College version of the race!

  102. 102.

    randy_khan

    May 5, 2019 at 3:08 pm

    @MattF:

    5G isn’t what tall buildings block. What they block are transmissions in the frequency range Verizon and AT&T are using for 5G, called millimeter wave spectrum. Lower frequencies, like the ones now used for most wireless services, work fine in urban environments. (And elsewhere in the world they’re mostly using the lower frequencies.)

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