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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Hail to the Hairpiece / Sad Trombone Open Thread: Protecting “Dear Leader” From His Own Insecurities

Sad Trombone Open Thread: Protecting “Dear Leader” From His Own Insecurities

by Anne Laurie|  June 2, 20195:35 pm| 131 Comments

This post is in: Hail to the Hairpiece, Military, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, All Too Normal

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(Jack Ohman via GoComics.com)
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if you called this fake news, you’re fake news https://t.co/uhyxjT6wMb

— Christian Vanderbrouk (@UrbanAchievr) June 1, 2019

When the “Big Guy” is so transparent in his many insecurities, good minions don’t need explicit instructions in advance. Per NBC:

… “A request was made to the U.S. Navy to minimize the visibility of USS John S. McCain, however, all ships remained in their normal configuration during the President’s visit,” Rear Admiral Charlie Brown, chief of information, said in a statement to NBC News.

“There were also no intentional efforts to explicitly exclude Sailors assigned to USS John S. McCain,” the statement said.

Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan said Friday he’d asked his chief of staff to “look into” the reported request from the White House to move the ship “out of sight” during Trump’s visit.

“Our business is to run military operations and not become politicized,” Shanahan told reporters during a news conference in Singapore. “I would not have moved the ship,” he added.

“The Navy is fully cooperating with the review of this matter tasked by the Secretary of Defense. Our forward-deployed Naval forces continue to stand ready to execute their assigned missions,” Brown, the Navy spokesperson, said Saturday…

(Jeff Danziger via GoComics.com)
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If Prince Harry is forbid by protocol (i.e., his granny) from doing as Betty suggested below and punching the Mango Menace, maybe he can see that any & every protocol officer assigned to the Squatter-in-Chief’s team announces themselves as a McCain?

I don’t know guys, I’m really starting to suspect he’s not being straight with us. pic.twitter.com/T3jqfrLXHb

— Schooley (@Rschooley) June 1, 2019

(Matt Davies via GoComics.com)
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ETA:

CHUCK TODD: Are you confident it wasn't a WH staffer who requested the Navy cover up ship named after McCain?

MICK MULVANEY: Oh no, it was absolutely us

CT: Any consequences?

MM: We all know how Trump feels about McCain. It wasn't unreasonable

CT: Seriously?

MM: It's not! pic.twitter.com/fWvYesT4DE

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 2, 2019

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131Comments

  1. 1.

    MattF

    June 2, 2019 at 5:41 pm

    It’s no secret that QE really liked the Obamas. That alone is enough to piss off the Orange One.

  2. 2.

    Hilfy

    June 2, 2019 at 5:42 pm

    Jack Ohman–Great Cartoonist. Cartoonists and comedians keep us sane in these days of Trumpism.

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 5:46 pm

    In the last cartoon, what does the “56” on the ship signify?

  4. 4.

    MattF

    June 2, 2019 at 5:50 pm

    Hilarious NYT article about the, um, problems of a Trump-branded condominium being built in Uruguay. A sample:

    In addition, some of the people who have agreed to buy condos have faced legal problems in their home countries, including allegations of tax evasion. According to real estate records reviewed by The New York Times, the buyers included at least 21 anonymous companies in offshore jurisdictions like Panama and Belize.

    Well, golly.

    ETA: Forgot the URL:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/02/business/trump-uruguay-punta-del-este.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

  5. 5.

    JDM

    June 2, 2019 at 5:51 pm

    DDG-56 is the ship’s well, what is that, insignia?

  6. 6.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 2, 2019 at 5:54 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: It is part of its hull number. It is a destroyer armed with guided missiles and the number is therefore prefaced with DDG. So DDG-56 = USS John S. McCain.

  7. 7.

    Sab

    June 2, 2019 at 5:55 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: That’s her number DDG 56, kind of like PT 109. DDG is a class of destroyer with guided missiles.

  8. 8.

    Adam L Silverman

    June 2, 2019 at 5:55 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: The McCain‘s designator is DDG 56. DDG is the designator for Arleigh Burke class destroyers and stands for Destroyer, Guided Missile. The ship’s motto is Fortune Favors the Brave and the nickname for the ship is Big Bad John. The numbering on US destroyer designators is all hosed up because they reclassed them as frigates for a while, then went back to destroyer, then the Arleigh Burke class came online. Because of this The Arleigh Burke‘s designator is DDG 51, even though it is the first of its class of destroyers.

  9. 9.

    Another Scott

    June 2, 2019 at 5:56 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: DDG-56.

    HTH.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  10. 10.

    Sab

    June 2, 2019 at 6:01 pm

    In that cartoon, why isn’t Trumps ship gold-plated?

  11. 11.

    Baud

    June 2, 2019 at 6:02 pm

    “I would not have moved the ship,” he added.

    Would get have resigned? I guess he didn’t technically get a direct order from the CiC, but not because Trump is shy about abusing his authority.

  12. 12.

    dww44

    June 2, 2019 at 6:02 pm

    Just returned from my local Barnes & Nobles. One of the things I was interested in was the physical copy of the Mueller Report. Much to my surprise there were 2. The plain bare bones one, showing the redacted portions, was the Washington Post one. The other was a red, white, and blue one published or controlled by the Justice Department with a foreword by Alan Dershowitz. My antenna went immediately up and I thumbed though the copy, albeit briefly. Maybe they do include the redacted portions, but I didn’t see any. I’d buy the Washington Post copy if I were buying.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    June 2, 2019 at 6:03 pm

    @Sab:

    In the first cartoon, why isn’t Trump’s ship covered on feces?

  14. 14.

    germy

    June 2, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    @dww44: The Justice Dept. edition uses disappearing ink.

    (except for the Dershowitz intro)

  15. 15.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 6:23 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: “56” refers to your age the year McCain was born

    Zing!

  16. 16.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 2, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: Big mistake. Big. Huge.

  17. 17.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 6:27 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    @Sab: @Adam L Silverman:
    @Another Scott:

    Thank you, all. I almost always leave Balloon Juice slightly more informed than I was going in.

    (And pre-emptively, I might have too many links in this comment to avoid moderation. If this is the case, I’m relying on you to spring me from jail, @Adam).

  18. 18.

    debbie

    June 2, 2019 at 6:28 pm

    @Sab:

    I love the length of that tie. Longer than the man is tall!

  19. 19.

    sukabi

    June 2, 2019 at 6:28 pm

    @Sab: the paint washed off. He was too cheap to go for actual plating.

  20. 20.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 6:29 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    “56” refers to your age the year McCain was born

    Or your IQ the year you thought that was amusing.

    ZING!

  21. 21.

    dmsilev

    June 2, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    It’s his sheer insecurity that continues to amaze. He’s President of the United States (God help us all), John McCain is dead, and if there wasn’t a fuss raised, basically nobody besides the people directly involved would have known or cared that the USS McCain was in proximity to him. And yet, his insecurity and ego is such that someone on the staff, rightly fearing a temper tantrum, ordered a (literal) cover-up. Thus creating a controversy out of nowhere.

  22. 22.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: [sobs quietly into plastic cup of store-brand boxed blush Zinfandel]

  23. 23.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 6:33 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Going for the (for you) good stuff, I see.

  24. 24.

    John Revolta

    June 2, 2019 at 6:33 pm

    I thought it was Lawrence Taylor. Kinda looks like him a little.

  25. 25.

    Mike in NC

    June 2, 2019 at 6:35 pm

    The Jack Ohman cartoon up top is good, but aren’t the crappers in Trump Tower made of solid gold, or is it just the handles?

    ETA: Sab got there first.

  26. 26.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 6:36 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: glass houses, habibi….

  27. 27.

    hells littlest angel

    June 2, 2019 at 6:36 pm

    One of Trump’s lesser unforgivable offenses is making John McCain seem like a good guy by comparison.

  28. 28.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 2, 2019 at 6:37 pm

    @Mike in NC: I would guess that they are gold-plated. And when I say gold plated, I mean painted.

  29. 29.

    germy

    June 2, 2019 at 6:38 pm

    @dmsilev: He knows how to hold a grudge, I’ll give him that.

  30. 30.

    Sab

    June 2, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    @Mike in NC: I phrased it a bit more delicately. Thanks for the h/t.

  31. 31.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    The wine I’m drinking came from a bottle, not a box.

    It is a normal colour of wine.

    I’m drinking it from a glass, not a plastic cup.

    I’m not using a straw.

  32. 32.

    Raven

    June 2, 2019 at 6:40 pm

    PT Boats, like many Navy craft including LST’s, didn’t have official names. Sometimes the crew named them like PT 305 that was restored and is part of the WW2 Museum in New Orleans, she’s called “The Sudden Jerk”.

  33. 33.

    RAVEN

    June 2, 2019 at 6:41 pm

    Patrol-torpedo boats were only given a numerical hull designation, unlike their larger counterparts. Crews were allowed to give their boats a nickname, and often got creative. Nicknames for some of PT-305’s squadron mates were USS Cherry (PT-304), La-Dee-Da (PT-308), Oh Frankie (PT-309), and Sea-wolf (PT-313). PT-305 was given two confirmed nicknames during the war, the first coming from a crew mishap, as told by Baker First Class Benedict Bronder, from Minnesota. Bronder came aboard PT-305 with the first crew in 1943.

    “The one we had was Sudden Jerk,” he said. “And the way they got that (was) they were backing in to park it and they sped up a little bit too much and when it come back, it hit where it was tied up. And they said ‘That was a sudden jerk!’ and then they said, ‘That’s a good name!’ It didn’t ruin anything on the boat, but that’s where it got the name Sudden Jerk.” She carried that name throughout 1944 and into 1945, when a new crew renamed her. Stay tuned for the story of the Half Hitch!

  34. 34.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 6:41 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: do not judge my straw!

    And do you really think I would drink blush Zinfandel?

  35. 35.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    @Raven:

    “The Sudden Jerk”

    Pretty sure I dated that guy back in the day.

  36. 36.

    Baud

    June 2, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    @hells littlest angel:

    Agreed.

  37. 37.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    And do you really think I would drink blush Zinfandel?

    I think you are capable of horrors as yet unnamed. This is merely the beginning.

  38. 38.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: you’re as salty as a margarita glass tonight!

  39. 39.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 6:46 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    do not judge my straw!

    The better to blow bubbles in the wine with, my dear.

  40. 40.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    you’re as salty as a margarita glass tonight!

    And a hearty NaCl to you and yours, my friend!

  41. 41.

    Sab

    June 2, 2019 at 6:48 pm

    @debbie: What’s with everyone wearing the long ties? Did you notice Rob Rosenstein’s tie in his departure ceremony? I guess he wants a judgeship?

    So in the future we will have to consider tie length in confirmation hearings, as it seems to be an actual indicator of political corruption. And when they complain we will righteously scream that they started it.

    I hate the times we are in.

  42. 42.

    sdhays

    June 2, 2019 at 6:48 pm

    @hells littlest angel: Not only that, he keeps bringing the m*ther f*cker up ALL THE TIME so we can’t even let him fade into the mists of history. We still have to talk about John Freaking McCain because of the large (empty) apartment zombie McCain is living in Trump’s pumpkin-like noggin.

    If he didn’t keep bringing the jackass up every couple of weeks or so, how long would it take for Meghan McCain to get fired for being a nobody (because too many people would have forgotten who her lousy father is)? 6 montsh? A year?

  43. 43.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 6:51 pm

    @Sab: I have a meeting with opposing counsel on Tuesday. I’m going with a red tie down to my knees. They should fold immediately.

  44. 44.

    debbie

    June 2, 2019 at 6:51 pm

    @Sab:

    It must be a sign of loyalty.

  45. 45.

    hells littlest angel

    June 2, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    @sdhays: She wouldn’t look out of place standing on a streetcorner shouting, “I am John McCain’s daughter!”

  46. 46.

    Raven

    June 2, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    RIP Leah Chase.

    Leah Chase, the nation’s pre-eminent Creole chef, always knew what to feed her famous customers.

    The Rev. Martin Luther King Sr. liked barbecued ribs, and James Baldwin preferred gumbo. The singer Sarah Vaughan ordered stuffed crab to go, and Nat King Cole always wanted a four-minute egg.

    She once had to stop President Barack Obama from putting hot sauce in her gumbo — a real culinary sin — and, despite pressure from a city still angry over the federal government’s response to Hurricane Katrina, she fed President George W. Bush crab soup and shrimp Clemenceau on the second anniversary of the storm that nearly closed her restaurant, Dooky Chase’s, for good.

    We went there for lunch when we were in the Easy for the Sugar Bowl.

  47. 47.

    chopper

    June 2, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    The wine I’m drinking came from a bottle

    i’m glad thunderbird is still available this way.

  48. 48.

    Baud

    June 2, 2019 at 6:56 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Especially if that’s the only thing you’re wearing.

  49. 49.

    Raven

    June 2, 2019 at 6:57 pm

    @chopper: What’s the word, Thunderbird, what’s the price? Forty twice!

  50. 50.

    chopper

    June 2, 2019 at 6:57 pm

    @Raven:

    “the wine so bad it made the news”

  51. 51.

    Raven

    June 2, 2019 at 6:58 pm

    Ray Charles

    I went to Dooky Chase’s to get something to eat
    The waitress looked at me and said, “Ray, you sure look beat”

    Now it’s early in the morning (early in the morning)

  52. 52.

    Raven

    June 2, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    Great photo of Leah Chase and Barak Obama.

  53. 53.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    @chopper:

    I’m glad thunderbird is still available this way.

    Lancers or go home!

  54. 54.

    Baud

    June 2, 2019 at 7:06 pm

    @Raven:

    That is sweet. Thanks for posting.

  55. 55.

    J R in WV

    June 2, 2019 at 7:07 pm

    I see that Trump attended church today, as Franklin Graham announced it was Pray for President Trump Sunday today.

    The service was around 2:30, and President Trump came to church directly from his gold links nearby.

    I was prepared to be appalled that Trump was wearing his golf clothes into the church, but then I saw that the pastor was also wearing golf clothes — so new to me, a pastor wearing a polo shirt to lead prayer!

    Whatever keeps the rubes happy and giving, right?

  56. 56.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 7:08 pm

    @hells littlest angel:

    She wouldn’t look out of place standing on a streetcorner shouting, “I am John McCain’s daughter!”

    Doesn’t she already do this five days a week on The View?

  57. 57.

    Baud

    June 2, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Their religion. Their politics. Their dress code. Don’t bother me none.

    It’s when they start hurting people who aren’t them that I care.

  58. 58.

    Sab

    June 2, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    @debbie: You can’t get a Court appointment unless you wear your tie halfway to your knees.

    I think Federalist Society should be disqualifying, and I pretty much think Yale should be also (sorry Hilz and Bill, that was Eons ago.) Yale doesn’t have grades. How the phuck do they evaluate anyone except by what clique they wete in? Certainly not by their work product.

    Yale is top ranked because of it’s judicial appointees, and after Kavanaugh we knew how that worked. Had he ever had an actual normal doing the work and billing the client for work job?

  59. 59.

    raven

    June 2, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    @Baud: Here’s a better article about her from NOLA. I know it’s not as interesting as some fucking ties but here it is.

  60. 60.

    rikyrah

    June 2, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) Tweeted:
    Perspective: Why do black voters support Biden? They just want to beat Trump.
    https://t.co/FqKuOqBVel https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1134655577177698304?s=17

  61. 61.

    Aleta

    June 2, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    Heard Emily King last night at Central Park free! summer stage. Unbelievable.

    Remind Me, studio version

    Been without it for so long
    Forgot what it feels like

    Been asleep inside this dream, trying to wake up
    Waiting for something to come and rescue me, give me a reason…
    yes

  62. 62.

    sdhays

    June 2, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    @Sab: The Ivy league in general doesn’t deserve the position it’s been given as the gatekeepers of our legal system. There was a discussion awhile ago about how Kamala Harris went to a state school (and not Berkeley!!) so she must actually be a crap lawyer or something stupid like that. It was absurd. Having all of our top justices go through Harvard or Yale has a distorting effect on our legal system, and not a good one. We should be looking to broaden the pool of schools you can go to and still clerk for Supreme Court Justices and have a hope to even be named a judge yourself, and most of those schools should be public.

  63. 63.

    FelonyGovt

    June 2, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    OT (sorta) I attended the California Democratic Party Convention in San Francisco this weekend. I am feeling so much better after listening to some of our Presidential candidates. There are some fine ones, including some I didn’t know much about including Klobuchar, Booker, Inslee and Beto. (I didn’t bother going to see Bernie.).

    It was also wonderful seeing so many committed Democrats, including a surprising number of young people.

  64. 64.

    Baud

    June 2, 2019 at 7:26 pm

    @FelonyGovt:

    I just read the Vox article about that. Glad to hear it was positive.

  65. 65.

    FelonyGovt

    June 2, 2019 at 7:28 pm

    @Baud: There was a bit of dissension around the election of a new party Chair (the previous guy had to resign because of harassment allegations), and some of the Bernie Bros booed Hickenlooper, which I thought was disrespectful. Otherwise pretty peaceful.

  66. 66.

    Baud

    June 2, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    @FelonyGovt:

    The Vox article said they booed another moderate. Delaney?

    ETA

    Yes.

    Sunday, former Maryland Congressman John Delaney faced the same fate as the former governor. Delaney used part of his speech to reject Medicare for all, and reportedly received “sustained boos.”

  67. 67.

    JPL

    June 2, 2019 at 7:35 pm

    Is anyone else watching CNN”s townhall. Seth Moulton is a jerk, but Tim Ryan sounds sincere in his beliefs. Of course, I wouldn’t vote for him but I do think he understands what happened in the areas where wages dropped.

  68. 68.

    FelonyGovt

    June 2, 2019 at 7:36 pm

    Could be, he was today and I didn’t attend at all today.

    ETA I’m sure the Bros we’re there in force today because their hero was speaking, and many of the (other) delegates were had probably already left.

  69. 69.

    Mike in NC

    June 2, 2019 at 7:36 pm

    We were given a box of Cabernet not too long ago. Sells for $20 and the label claimed it held 35 glasses. Wasn’t bad (free wine usually isn’t).

  70. 70.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 7:41 pm

    @JPL:

    Is anyone else watching CNN”

    Fuck no.

  71. 71.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    @Mike in NC: there’s plenty of drinkable boxed wine these days, such as Black Box and Provisions. It’s not just Franzia anymore.

  72. 72.

    Harbison

    June 2, 2019 at 7:44 pm

    @sdhays:

    Hastings is a TTT, has nothing to do with it being a state school.

    We’ve hired people from there before, but they had other attributes that made them attractive to compensate for the lack law school screening.

  73. 73.

    Ruckus

    June 2, 2019 at 7:45 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Been saying that for years. It’s gold spray paint. It was on sale for $1/can, $.50 if you bought it by the case. Even cheaper if by the truck load. Being the cheap fuck he is, he went for the truck. Now it’s all gone. That’s why he ran for president, figured he could get the government to buy another truck load for him.

  74. 74.

    Ruckus

    June 2, 2019 at 7:48 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    I’ve pushed OO before, gently, he pushes back the same way.
    I don’t want to be on the wrong side of your bad self.

  75. 75.

    NotMax

    June 2, 2019 at 7:49 pm

    Sad Trombone Open Thread

    Equal time for happier trombones.

  76. 76.

    Harbison

    June 2, 2019 at 7:49 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Most wine gets better after the first bottle. Hence the attraction of boxes holding the equivalent of 4 or 5 bottles.

  77. 77.

    Ruckus

    June 2, 2019 at 7:50 pm

    @debbie:
    Wouldn’t want to offend his simpleton ass.
    It’s his tie, it must be the right length.
    I think he’s trying to make up for a short coming in other areas, if you get my drift.

  78. 78.

    dww44

    June 2, 2019 at 7:51 pm

    @germy: Ha!

  79. 79.

    Ruckus

    June 2, 2019 at 7:54 pm

    @Raven:
    Great soundtrack for this post. Or pretty much anytime.

  80. 80.

    NotMax

    June 2, 2019 at 7:54 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne

    And a hearty NaCl

    ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ Sodium, sodium, sodium, sodium, sodium, sodium, sodium, sodium, Batman! ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬

    :)

  81. 81.

    JoyceH

    June 2, 2019 at 7:55 pm

    Here’s some open-thready content – my new book, hot off the presses!

    Mary Bennet and the Bingley Codex

    Get it while supplies last! (Actually, as an ebook, I guess the supply is infinite – but why wait?)

  82. 82.

    RAVEN

    June 2, 2019 at 7:57 pm

    The young lady singing the Canadian National Anthem has turned it over to the crowd. . . nice touch.

  83. 83.

    debbie

    June 2, 2019 at 7:57 pm

    @Ruckus:

    And I do.

  84. 84.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 8:00 pm

    @RAVEN:

    Yup!

  85. 85.

    Skepticat

    June 2, 2019 at 8:01 pm

    Boxed wine = Cardboardeaux.

  86. 86.

    Ruckus

    June 2, 2019 at 8:01 pm

    @Sab:
    I know some medical schools don’t do grades, it’s pass/fail.
    But given some of the students, that might actually be a better way. The process is supposed to be learning, not a competition. The trick is that pass has to actually mean something. Proficiency, competency. I’ve seen people who worked for grades rather than learning. Or their counterparts, those who only worried about the minimum, so they could have a piece of paper. Which they devalued to it’s absolute bare minimum.

  87. 87.

    RAVEN

    June 2, 2019 at 8:02 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I’ve never seen that before.

  88. 88.

    Ruckus

    June 2, 2019 at 8:02 pm

    @debbie:
    Figured you would…..

  89. 89.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    @Skepticat:

    Boxed wine = Cardboardeaux.

    The day’s Internets, you have won them all!

  90. 90.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 2, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    Nothing is normal with this White House regime. We have a Man Baby about to embarrass the hell out of us on a state visit to England. Sigh.

  91. 91.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    @RAVEN:

    Was really nice ??

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    June 2, 2019 at 8:07 pm

    @Raven:
    Haven’t listened to Ray in a while. Thanks for the hint.

  93. 93.

    RAVEN

    June 2, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    @Ruckus: Were you familiar with Dooky Chase’s?

  94. 94.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 2, 2019 at 8:16 pm

    @NotMax:

    ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ Sodium, sodium, sodium, sodium, sodium, sodium, sodium, sodium, Batman! ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬

    Ha! I’m doing it to the tune of “Stodola Pumpa”:

    ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ “Sodium sodium sodium chloride, Sodium chloride, Sodium chloride; Sodium sodium sodium chloride, Sodium chloride, Chlor chlor chlor!” ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬

  95. 95.

    Lapassionara

    June 2, 2019 at 8:23 pm

    @Raven: Thank you for posting that photo. Her life is one to celebrate, and he is such a mensch.

  96. 96.

    CliosFanBoy

    June 2, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    @dww44: thanks, I was planning on buying a copy on Tuesday.

  97. 97.

    germy

    June 2, 2019 at 8:26 pm

    Ex-GOP Rep. Diane Black: The idea ‘everyone is equal’ is ‘not what this country is founded on’https://t.co/VlFHbMEQSd pic.twitter.com/XS1YhawSau— Raw Story (@RawStory) June 2, 2019

  98. 98.

    RAVEN

    June 2, 2019 at 8:27 pm

    @Lapassionara: Here’s a nice mural complete with Mardi Gras Indians.

  99. 99.

    p.a.

    June 2, 2019 at 8:28 pm

    Let’s try this one more time…
    WTF anyone else unable to comment the last 4, 5 days? Happened before too.

  100. 100.

    Baud

    June 2, 2019 at 8:30 pm

    @germy:

    Technically true. But we got better.

  101. 101.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 8:35 pm

    @germy: the ironically named Diane Black

  102. 102.

    Ruckus

    June 2, 2019 at 8:45 pm

    @RAVEN:
    Have heard of it but other than that, no.
    Have known a couple of people from New Orleans over the years. Have even been there once.
    Had a kid on my crew said he was from Bayou Lafourche. but the best I can tell that’s a river slightly south of New Orleans proper. He wasn’t big city. He was barely small town. Good kid.

  103. 103.

    Ruckus

    June 2, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    @germy:
    She seems nice….

  104. 104.

    Citizen Alan

    June 2, 2019 at 8:47 pm

    @sdhays:

    Agreed. I am certain that the quality of education you get at Harvard or Yale is no better than what you’d get at any of the top 50 public state colleges/universities in the country. The advantage of those two schools is that there is a non-trivial chance your freshman dorm roommate is related to a Senator or CEO. Other than networking opportunities, Harvard and Yale don’t impress me at all.

  105. 105.

    West of the Rockies

    June 2, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    @p.a.:

    Haven’t had that problem. I also haven’t gotten any of the pRon some people have… Not sure how I feel about that.

  106. 106.

    HeleninEire

    June 2, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    Just made my arrangements to visit Dublin for my birthday in September. I miss my Dublin friends.

  107. 107.

    RAVEN

    June 2, 2019 at 8:51 pm

    @Ruckus: I’ve been so into creole and cajun cooking for nearly 40 years so I was very familiar. My buddy is diver/welder on the rigs and I think they go out of Bayou Lafourche.

  108. 108.

    Ruckus

    June 2, 2019 at 8:55 pm

    @germy:
    I’m reading your link, and listening to Ray Charles sing America the Beautiful.
    Irony is not lost, it is in full force today.

  109. 109.

    geg6

    June 2, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    Good, open thread. Patting myself on the back here. Best dinner I’ve made in one pan ever. It’s a Greek lemon garlic chicken and rice and I made a traditional Greek salad (traditional meaning no lettuce) for a side. OMG! You people should be begging me for this recipe.

  110. 110.

    zhena gogolia

    June 2, 2019 at 9:06 pm

    @geg6:

    Let’s have it!

  111. 111.

    Sab

    June 2, 2019 at 9:17 pm

    @Ruckus: The practice of medicine isn’t supposed to be an adversarial system. The practice of accounting isn’t supposed to be an adverarial system. Neither is engineering or any number of other fields.

    The practice of law, by its nature, is adversarial. So we have these schools where everyone got in by greasing the skids, and then they aren’t judged competetively by their work, and they get out and practice in courts dominated by alumni/judges who also got into law school and onto the bench by greasing the skids, and everyone knows who is and is not connected.That’s not adversarial. That’s corrupt.

    I am exaggerating, but not by much, and every judicial appointment makes it less of an exaggeration.

  112. 112.

    Suzanne

    June 2, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Going for the (for you) good stuff, I see.

    Only the finest Cardbordeaux for the jackals.

  113. 113.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    @Sab:

    The practice of medicine isn’t supposed to be an adversarial system.

    You’ve never played golf with any doctors, have you?

  114. 114.

    Jay

    June 2, 2019 at 9:24 pm

    @Sab:

    The Nonsense Factory: The Making and Breaking of the American Legal System, Library Edition Bruce Gibney

  115. 115.

    Sab

    June 2, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: Diane Black is absolutely right that “everyone being equal is not what this country was founded on.” This country was founded on the work of people who actually built it being counted as 3/5 of a person and not allowed freedom, security or intactness for their families, voting rights or property. That’s why I am not an “originalist” and think that whole line of thinking is a crock. We are about two hundred years and a very bloody Civil War past that thinking.

  116. 116.

    Sab

    June 2, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: That’s golf, not the practice of medicine.

  117. 117.

    Sab

    June 2, 2019 at 9:37 pm

    @Sab: He was a pathologist. When he was reading a slide he didn’t say “I’m right and I win.” He sent slides out to other places, Cleveland Clinic, Navsl War College, Institutes of Health to get a second or third opinion. It wasn’t about winning. It was about getting it right.

    Law is about winning. Your client isn’t paying you to get it right. They are paying you to win.

    Medical patients are paying you to get it right.

    The courts are supposed to bring balance back into the system to get it right. The whole corruption of legal education entry and advancement, especially in the courts, destroys the balance.

  118. 118.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 9:41 pm

    @Sab: your theory is correct, but the reality is that getting into medical school is so competitive that it ends up full of type A assholes who can’t help themselves.

  119. 119.

    Jay

    June 2, 2019 at 9:43 pm

    @Sab:

    Golf is compeditive?

    I though it was a long walk ruined by a little white ball?

  120. 120.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    June 2, 2019 at 9:45 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: Some of them are cool though. But your general point is quite correct. Which is not to say that there aren’t some brass plated assholes in law, of course.

    I’m turning to a nice red blend, having finished billing for the week. You have mail.

  121. 121.

    sigyn

    June 2, 2019 at 9:49 pm

    @geg6: Pretty please?

  122. 122.

    James E Powell

    June 2, 2019 at 9:51 pm

    @RAVEN:

    Cavaliers did it a few years back.

  123. 123.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 9:55 pm

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: like any group, some are good, some are bad. Except for investment bankers—you can’t get into that field without being a sociopath.

    Will take me a few minutes to dial into my AOL account to check my mail.

  124. 124.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    June 2, 2019 at 9:57 pm

    @dww44: Seen on the shelf at Kramerbooks (I was in DC the last couple days): Michael Cohen’s House Testimony.

    Didn’t get it, got some other cool fiction and non-fiction, $100 worth. I knew that was going to happen when I walked in there, but I went in anyway.

    Anybody read the Obama/Biden thriller Hope Never Dies? It looks fun, but at the same time too painful to read right now given how far we’ve fallen in just two years and how much I miss Obama being in the White House.

  125. 125.

    Suzanne

    June 2, 2019 at 10:21 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    how much I miss Obama being in the White House

    Mr. Suzanne and I are watching the NBA game, and the camera panned over to show BHO is there watching the game in person. We got a bit emotional.

  126. 126.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 2, 2019 at 10:27 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: So is Yale Law.

  127. 127.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 2, 2019 at 10:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: as are many or maybe most law schools. Certainly the top 25, if not the top 50.

  128. 128.

    James E Powell

    June 3, 2019 at 12:15 am

    @Harbison:

    Hastings is a TTT, has nothing to do with it being a state school.

    What is a TTT?

  129. 129.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 3, 2019 at 12:40 am

    @James E Powell: Some of the law school rating systems break the schools into four tiers – abbreviated T, TT, TTT, TTTT.

  130. 130.

    prostratedragon

    June 3, 2019 at 2:16 am

    @MattF: “Milonga Picaresque,” or funeral march for a burial taking place just ahead of the collapse of a real estate scam in which the cemetery land was a piece.

  131. 131.

    prostratedragon

    June 3, 2019 at 3:16 am

    Just some of the rich details from the article about the Punta del Este punt. One early paragraph begins,

    “Of course not,” Richard Sampallo, a director of the union that represents the construction crew, said when asked if it will be finished by the end-of-2020 target. At the current pace, he estimates it may take another four years, at which point it will have been roughly a decade since it got underway.

    The man is a cock-eyed optimist, as the article’s survey of other recent TO international projects indicates. Of course, it wouldn’t be a TO property without the classiest associates, like YY Development, who actually acquired the land and are supposed to be developing the property, and …

    Mr. Yellati’s brother-in-law, Mr. Dujovne, Argentina’s future economics minister. Mr. Dujovne, whose father’s architecture firm was designing the tower, was a prominent economist and television talk show personality. Mr. Dujovne was involved in the purchase of the land and later tried to sell condos to his contacts in Buenos Aires, according to people familiar with his role.

    Mr. Dujovne’s litany of disavowal uses text by now familiar to us all. I’ll bet other countries just love to see the T family on their horizon, love to. It was a mere two (2) years from ceremonial to actual groundbreaking, whereupon the comedy really got under way, due in part to the severly undercapitalized developers (who got them in on it?), with Eric T making annual visits to “supervise” construction and pass on high end requirements, like the brand of appliances. However

    Those high-end touches were expensive. The project’s developer and broker were listing some apartments at roughly $7,000 per square meter, about 30 percent higher than competing luxury properties. Some units’ price tags were above $2 million.

    The high prices dampened demand, according to people familiar with the deal. So, YY divided two large units on each floor into three separate smaller apartments. That added 25 less-expensive units to the tower. But it also meant that dozens of the units in the beachside property now have no view of the ocean.
    [My emph]

    Perhaps best of all, there is one (1) electrician working on the building, top floors are missing windows, and the usual enormous “T” sign is beginning to rust — beachfront hazard I suppose.

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