Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

American history and black history cannot be separated.

Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

Baby steps, because the Republican Party is full of angry babies.

Following reporting rules is only for the little people, apparently.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

Our messy unity will be our strength.

The line between political reporting and fan fiction continues to blur.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

“I was told there would be no fact checking.”

Republicans got rid of McCarthy. Democrats chose not to save him.

You’re just a puppy masquerading as an old coot.

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

Conservatism: there are people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

T R E 4 5 O N

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

Innocent people do not delay justice.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

I swear, each month of 2025 will have its own history degree.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

No one could have predicted…

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    A day that will live in ignominy.

    The day Michael Moore met with Julian Assange.

    I missed that.

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    With a few notable exceptions, it does seem that most of the Dem 2020 candidates genuinely like and respect each other and would cheerfully support whichever of them manages to win the nomination next year. I expect we’ll see a few punches thrown during the debates, but for the most part they all seem to have eyes on the prize. I like.

  5. 5.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Baud:

    For the ones that don’t make it to nomination stage, I hope there will be some effective Cabinet posts. There is so much Trump-era fuckery that needs to be reversed ASAP.

  6. 6.

    Ajabu

    I am good with either one of them!
    If Harris, Warren stay in the Senate.
    If Warren, Harris for A.G.
    WIN-WIN!!!!!!!

  8. 8.

    Suzanne

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    for the most part they all seem to have eyes on the prize. I like.

    Agree.
    I think of zero-sum leadership as a dude thing anyway.

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I always thought this was a real person, I’ve seen her quoted in serious outlets and she’s said to be the head of a real union, but if you wanted to build a Bernie Cultist in a lab to produce this tweet, for some reason, you couldn’t do better

    RoseAnn DeMoro @ RoseAnnDeMoro
    Ah the #MSM… and #DNC

    First they tried to delegitimization our campaign from the Right.. failed.

    Next they tried from the Centrist.. failed.

    Now from the sort of left.

    Again among all “Only” #Bernie2020 has lived his life for social justice!

    #SundayMotivation
    28 replies 141 retweets 400 likes

    I don’t now what “sort of left” means. Warren? Nina Turner is already whining about a rigged contest, and The Young Turks are sending their followers around yapping about some pledge they want people to sign.

  17. 17.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    and apparently Roy Cohn Jr wants to give his boss cover for the whole “Studio 54 was my Vietnam” thing

    The Hill @ thehill
    AG Barr: “As we’ve been watching the [D-Day] coverage… I had the thought that my arrival this time felt a little bit, I think, like jumping into Sainte-Mère-Église on the morning of June 5, trying to figure out where you could land without getting shot.”

  21. 21.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Baud:

    We’ll see. You can’t accommodate everyone.

    Naturally, you’ve captured both my heart and my vote. But in the highly unlikely case that it’s not enough, I can kind of see you as Ambo to the Holy See, destroying Callista Gingrich’s legacy and mixing it up with Pope Francis.

  26. 26.

    NotMax

    Open thread?

    This little gizmo (plugged into a USB slot on the PC tower), sitting on the floor beneath the desk and blowing up and out onto the feet, legs and lower torso while I’m on the desk chair, is a lifesaver during this oppressive heat.

  29. 29.

    Searcher

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: What pledge? To vote for Bernie at the convention even if he didn’t win the states’ primaries/caucuses, to write in Bernie in the general even if he isn’t on the ballot?

  32. 32.

    Jay

    Bob Nesta Makhno mistake?
    @GilletteMachNo
    ·
    10h
    the hate preachers – who have been harassing people at every pride event around southern Ontario – teamed up with the fascist Canadian Nationalist Party (same one burned a Quran at the pegida rally) for Ajax pride. these chuds need a few holy milkshakes to get right with god.

  33. 33.

    germy

    @Jay:

    “Neo-Nazi protesters disrupt Motor City Pride celebrations in Detroit”

    First time I’m hearing about this.

    Wife and I just watched the CBS Evening News, and then the ABC Evening News. No mention of it. Both networks ran with a story about a “false report” of a man with a gun that caused a stampede of panicked celebrators. They arrested a man with a gun (he had a foreign-sounding name), and my wife and I wondered why both ABC and CBS called it “false report” (but there was no mention of the neonazis story)

  36. 36.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @NotMax:

    Heh. My father always used to refer to Dismal Seepage, Ohio. Didn’t know that he swiped it — always thought it was original with him. Thanks for the link.

  38. 38.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Baud:

    I could get some of my demons exorcised at cost.

    If I’m not mistaken, I think the word you want is “indulgences.”

  39. 39.

    Jay

    “
    UN Special Procedures
    @UN_SPExperts
    · Jun 5
    #UnitedStates: UN experts are gravely concerned about criminal charges brought against #ScottWarren, a U.S. citizen who works for an aid organisation providing water and medical aid to #migrants in the Arizona desert.

    Learn more: (link: http://ow.ly/sFME50uxzb5) ow.ly/sFME50uxzb5”

  40. 40.

    germy

    @Jay:

    That was in DC.

    I guess that’s why both networks made it their lead story, rather than the skinheads in Detroit.

  41. 41.

    NotMax

    @SiubhanDuinne

    So many delightfully goofy place names during the long run of that program, and not one-offs, they were referred to again now and then. One which sticks in the mind is Fiendish, Indiana.

  42. 42.

    JoeyJoeJoe

    @germy: That happened in DC as well. There were two reports of shootings, in the area at least (I saw people running away)though they were false

  43. 43.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @NotMax:

    There was also a Mule Groin, was it West Virginia? A great name for a municipality, no matter the home state!

  46. 46.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @divF:

    Don’t we indulge him enough here ?

    The early-morning crew indulges him on a daily basis, but I’m generally not competent to fire up the iPhone at that hour.

  47. 47.

    Ohio Mom

    @Jay: One day in the far future, there will be some sort of plaque commentating a spot where Scott Warren put out water to save lives, and all sorts of people will proudly identify with him and imagine that they would have done the same, way back when.

    I say this because Ohio is dotted with little towns celebrating their historic homes that were once part of the Underground railway even as every single last one of them is a MAGA-rat.

    Scott Warren is a saint.

  48. 48.

    geg6

    First two numbers at the Tonys kicked ass! Best award show of all, every year.

    I must see “Ain’t Too Proud to Beg.” ASAP.

  49. 49.

    NotMax

    @divF

    How better to ensure he drives traffic here by using B-J instead of Twitter to issue proclamations?

    :)

  50. 50.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Ajabu:

    If Warren, Harris for A.G.

    We need to stop with thinking about Senators or Governors taking cabinet posts, even though Senator Harris would probably be replaced by a Democrat, it’s always a risk.

  51. 51.

    NotMax

    @geg6

    No spoilers, please (not that your comment was one). Show doesn’t begin airing here for hours and hours yet.

  52. 52.

    Brachiator

    @NotMax:

    This little gizmo (plugged into a USB slot on the PC tower), sitting on the floor beneath the desk and blowing up and out onto the feet, legs and lower torso while I’m on the desk chair, is a lifesaver during this oppressive heat.

    Thanks for the tip. Will check this out.

    ETA. Out and about, having a quick stop for a break. I will record the Tony awards for later viewing.

  54. 54.

    Ken

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: No problem. We’ve established the principle that cabinet members don’t need to be confirmed by the Senate. It’s only a short step further to say that an “acting” cabinet member is not in fact holding the office – especially if they nobly refuse the salary – and so can continue to serve in Congress.

  55. 55.

    Brachiator

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    The Young Turks are sending their followers around yapping about some pledge they want people to sign

    I guess that The Young Turks is the official propaganda network for the Wilmer campaign. It’s like Fox News for lefty purists.

  56. 56.

    Ajabu

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:
    I wouldn’t suggest that in general But damn, Bill, we’re talking about California. What is the likelihood of her being replaced by a Rethug there?

  57. 57.

    Anne Laurie

    @Searcher:

    What pledge? To vote for Bernie at the convention even if he didn’t win the states’ primaries/caucuses, to write in Bernie in the general even if he isn’t on the ballot?

    If it’s the one they were pushing a few weeks ago, it’s a “pledge” not to attack other Democratic candidates. Right after Bernie made a big deal of signing it, he (officially) hired David Sirota, who had been & continues to attack every Dem candidate who gets any attention from the ‘lamestream media’, because all attention not paid to Dear Boss-Leader is stolen.

    (Also, if Sanders’ passive-aggressive sniping about how all those other candidates are compromised, dishonest, johnny-come-lately unelectibles doesn’t qualify as “attacking”, he’s got a very generous definition of the term.)

    TL; DR — the Young Turks, and their aging leadership, are Bernie’s brownshirts, and if they don’t end up getting someone killed, it’ll be because they’re not even good at the vandalism they so admire.

  59. 59.

    Jay

    Emily of the State
    @EmilyGorcenski
    ·
    19h
    Nazis rally, antifa steps up, centrists denounce the antifa.

    Now neo-Nazis are showing up at Pride, protected by cops. Now gunshots at Pride. Now Pride is riddled by fear.

    Now are you ready to listen? Now are you ready to put your faith behind the only ones who’ve got it right?

  60. 60.

    Dan B

    @Jay: Seattle’s Pride Parade has about 250,000+ attendees. I hope we don’t get the right wingers with guns crowd. Our streets are narrow so a panic would be dangerous.

    We don’t have the phenomenon of parade goers taking off their pride buttons and outfits that happens in many cities. People on the light rail and buses party!

  61. 61.

    Brachiator

    @Jay:

    Now are you ready to listen? Now are you ready to put your faith behind the only ones who’ve got it right?

    Ready to listen to what? Or to who? I don’t see that there is a single source of truth or revelation here.

  62. 62.

    Jay

    @Dan B:

    Since Charlottesville, the Nazi’s have been busy reaching out to and radicalizing other Fringers, from the Talibangalists to Anti-abortionists.

    I have no idea what “Patriot Prayer” has planned for Pride in Seattle or Portland.

  63. 63.

    plato

    Feel the don, the con.

    Trump promised to put 'American truckers first.' Drivers say he hasn't delivered."I've seen an $8,000 increase in my taxes this year.""Last year I owned 10 trucks, 10 trailers. This year I own one truck, one trailer because of all the taxation."https://t.co/hdxvXN616V— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 9, 2019

  64. 64.

    J R in WV

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I need help, here. Who is Nina Turner?

    And again, help… is “Roy Cohn Jr.” a metaphore for AG Barr, the fat lying turd? Or someone else who went to Studio 54 with fat orange turd? Shared the cocaine and little girls?

    Thanks, anyone who can educate us here in the rural WV holler…

  65. 65.

    chris

    @Jay: A suggestion: Click the little arrow at top right of the tweet, click Embed Tweet, copy the green text and paste here. Provides a link and makes a snazzy quote box.

  69. 69.

    Brachiator

    @plato:

    Trump promised to put ‘American truckers first.’ Drivers say he hasn’t delivered.”I’ve seen an $8,000 increase in my taxes this year.””Last year I owned 10 trucks, 10 trailers. This year I own one truck, one trailer because of all the taxation.

    As always, these dopes blame Obama for stuff he had little to do with, and insist on looking at Trump as their supposed saviour, who was supposed to make everything right.

    From the NBC story.

    Billy Bogar has been a long-haul trucker for nearly 20 years. He says that he’s a conservative who was glad when Trump won, but that he believes the president is listening to the wrong people.

    “I’m a die-hard Republican. I always have been. I liked the approach that he had to Washington. I liked the approach of going and fire everybody and start over,” Bogar said.

    Trump wanted to help big corporations and his own business interests. After that, he didn’t care. So the GOP wrote the tax bill to please their masters and Trump signed off on it. Hell, he would have signed a blank piece of paper if it had been put in front of him.

  72. 72.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @plato: And then the guy says “but I’ll be damned if I vote for a Democrat”.

    Edit: Should have scrolled down. I see by Brachiator’s comment #69 that he did, in effect, say exactly that.

  73. 73.

    chris

    @Jay: Excellent. the only time it doesn’t work is when the tweet has too many links in it but you can still provide a link.

  74. 74.

    plato

    @Brachiator:

    I liked the approach of going and fire everybody and start over,” Bogar said.

    Last year I owned 10 trucks, 10 trailers. This year I own one truck, one trailer

    Guess “start over” for thee, but none for me, didn’t work out for this pos.

  76. 76.

    The Fat Kate Middleton

    @germy: @germy: Our little field organizer showed up to stay with us tonight. She was at the Iowa event from 8 this morning – shared the Kamala Harris line with us. I’m really looking forward to FO staying with us – she’s a great kid.

  77. 77.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Brachiator:

    Ready to listen to what? Or to who? I don’t see that there is a single source of truth or revelation here.

    An old online friend of mine recently pointed out that Left Twitterites have a pronounced tendency to describe anyone who says anything horrible as a “centrist”, and then use that connection to implicitly or explicitly bash liberals and the Democratic Party.

    In the past week I’ve seen the “centrist” label applied to right-wingers who trollishly claim to be “independent”, and to Michael Tracey, in both cases because they whined about public intolerance of bigots on “free speech” grounds. These people are many things but centrists they are not.

  79. 79.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Jay: If you think my comment was in any way advocating tolerance for Nazis, go fuck yourself.

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