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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / local races 2019/2020 / SSDD Open Thread: Roy Moore Wants to Run for Senate Again

SSDD Open Thread: Roy Moore Wants to Run for Senate Again

by Anne Laurie|  June 21, 20195:07 pm| 92 Comments

This post is in: local races 2019/2020, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Take Back The Senate 2020, All Too Normal

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They’re already calling being an unrepentant sexual predator “misconduct allegations,” so I’d say his odds are decent. https://t.co/rq5cwERwpd

— Molotov Frappuccino Thrower (@agraybee) June 20, 2019

Sure, his fellow Repubs have publicly vowed to ‘crush’ him — ‘This place has enough creepy old men’. They’re even trying to recruit Jeff Sessions to run against him (as if that idea wasn’t six different nightmares in its own right). But FiveThirtyEight refuses to dismiss ‘Sheriff’ Moore’s chances:

… [T]here is one factor working in Moore’s favor — a crowded primary field. Because the eventual GOP nominee stands a good chance of beating Jones in the general election (Alabama is 27 points more Republican than the country as a whole), even more candidates could join the race. A large primary field may fragment the vote, making it unlikely that a candidate could win a majority and avoid a runoff and making it easier for Moore to advance to a runoff with only the support of his base…

Asked what he’ll do differently now versus his 2017 Senate bid, Roy Moore says: “I would like to make more personal contact with people.”

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) June 20, 2019

Remember: Roy Moore lost by a margin that was smaller than the number of write-in votes. https://t.co/aqjLof99WL

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) June 20, 2019

Donate here:https://t.co/8cFuQDmhP3

— Colonial Oppressor Barbie (@ljohn44) June 20, 2019

I kicked in a few bucks, as a preemptive offering, because I’m superstitious like that.

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  1. 1.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    Mock, Paper, Scissors meme of Moore’s campaign vehicle, needs to go viral,

    https://mockpaperscissors.com/2019/06/19/judge-roy-moore-is-probably-in/

    In other news:

    (Reuters) – He ran social media for Saudi Arabia’s crown prince. He masterminded the arrest of hundreds of his country’s elite. He detained a Lebanese prime minister. And, according to two intelligence sources, he ran journalist Jamal Khashoggi’s brutal killing at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul by giving orders over Skype.

    Saud al-Qahtani, a top aide for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, is one of the fall guys as Riyadh tries to stem international outrage at Khashoggi’s death. On Saturday, Saudi state media said King Salman had sacked Qahtani and four other officials over the killing carried out by a 15-man hit team.

    But Qahtani’s influence in the crown prince’s entourage has been so vast over the past three years – his own rise tracking that of his boss – that it will be hard for Saudi officials to paint Qahtani as the mastermind of the murder without also raising questions about the involvement of Prince Mohammed, according to several sources with links to the royal court.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-khashoggi-adviser-insight/how-the-man-behind-khashoggi-murder-ran-the-killing-via-skype-idUSKCN1MW2HA

    They left out the part where the UN Panel on the murder of Kashoggi also found that he, personally tortured Lebanon’s Prime Minister Harreri.

    So let’s see,

    Sawdi Arabia, rogue nation, Crown Prince Mohammed BoneSaw under investigation for murders,

    Israel, rogue nation, Bibi’s wife convicted, Bibi’s day in the dock to come,

    USA, rogue nation, dozens if investigations into Treason Tribble and his Minions, many convictions,

    So, War with Iran, amirite?

    I think we have found the New Axis of Evil.

  2. 2.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 21, 2019 at 5:33 pm

    And in other other news, this is the putative next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (reposted from a thread downstairs somewhere):

    Police called to loud altercation at Boris Johnson’s home

    Police were called to the home of Boris Johnson and his partner, Carrie Symonds, in the early hours of Friday morning after neighbours heard a loud altercation involving screaming, shouting and banging.

    The argument could be heard outside the property where the potential future prime minister is living with Symonds, a former Conservative party head of press.

    A neighbour told the Guardian they heard a woman screaming followed by “slamming and banging”. At one point Symonds could be heard telling Johnson to “get off me” and “get out of my flat”.

    The neighbour said that after becoming concerned they knocked on the door but received no response. “I [was] hoping that someone would answer the door and say ‘We’re okay’. I knocked three times and no one came to the door.”

    The neighbour decided to call 999. Two police cars and a van arrived within minutes, shortly after midnight, but left after receiving reassurances from both the individuals in the flat that they were safe….

    The neighbour said they recorded the altercation from inside their flat out of concern for Symonds. On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my fucking laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.

    Symonds is heard saying Johnson had ruined a sofa with red wine: “You just don’t care for anything because you’re spoilt. You have no care for money or anything.”

    The neighbour said: “There was a smashing sound of what sounded like plates. There was a couple of very loud screams that I’m certain were Carrie and she was shouting to ‘get out’ a lot. She was saying ‘get out of my flat’ and he was saying no. And then there was silence after the screaming. My partner, who was in bed half asleep, had heard a loud bang and the house shook.”

    It’s from The Guardian. Having trouble linking from there.

    Just unbelievable, the way scum rises to the top on both sides of the pond.

  3. 3.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 21, 2019 at 5:35 pm

    @Jay:

    I think we have found the New Axis of Evil.

    Exactly, Iran. DPRK is no longer part of the Axis of Evil™ since Leader Kim writes nice letters to Emperor Tang and Iraq was turned into peaceful Jeffersonian Democracy flourishing with milk and honey.

  4. 4.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 5:39 pm

    Tulsi Gabbard defends Joe Biden in a series of tweets calling out her rivals for criticizing him.

    Tulsi Gabbard
    ✔
    @TulsiGabbard
    · 43m
    Replying to @TulsiGabbard
    (2/3) …get things done for the American people, there needs to be civility in Washington and in the country — the ability to work with those who we disagree, even those who hold some views which we abhor. In order for Congress to work for the American people…

    Tulsi Gabbard
    ✔
    @TulsiGabbard
    (3/3) …we need to find common ground with each other. That is not possible without civility. We don’t need another president who is going to continue to divide our country. We need a president who will unite us. United we stand, divided we fall.

    354
    10:54 AM – Jun 21, 2019

    Sorry, I don’t want to work with Nazis.

  5. 5.

    Sab

    June 21, 2019 at 5:41 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: That is one thing we can say about the Trumps. Despite execrable taste, they do respect expensive things. We don’t worry about them breaking the china or other nice stuff in the White House.

    Boris Johnson can’t even jump that low bar now.

  6. 6.

    lamh36

    June 21, 2019 at 5:41 pm

    Ok before we get too bogged down hairs about something to make i smile.

    ???

    notice that the baby smiles and hold her chin up??

    [email protected] to a little black girl: “You always hold that chin up.”

    My favorite part of this is the other girl saying to Kamala : “If you don’t make it — I’ll take your place” ?
    https://twitter.com/notcapn_america/status/1142139174864248833?s=21

  7. 7.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 5:42 pm

    Male, southern and middle-aged: meet the Tories choosing the next PM

    If they love their party, Conservative members have an unusual way of showing it. According to a survey by YouGov, 54% of party members say they would rather see their own party destroyed than have Brexit not take place. Sixty-one per cent would prefer to see “significant damage to the UK economy” and 63% would consider Scotland leaving the United Kingdom to be a price worth paying.

    As they prepare to select the next prime minister at a time of crisis, the attitudes of this group are arguably more consequential for the rest of the country than ever before. And the makeup of the membership appears to be changing – and becoming ever more supportive of a hard Brexit.

  8. 8.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 5:44 pm

    @Sab:

    Despite execrable taste, they do respect expensive things.

    Trump sits his ass on gold.

  9. 9.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 21, 2019 at 5:46 pm

    Meanwhile over here in England it is 10:42 and only just going dark, I had forgotten how weird English summers are. I remember chatting to an Attorney in court in the US that had just got back from a trip to St. Andrews in Scotland and he said it was so great, you could start a round of golf at 10pm.

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    June 21, 2019 at 5:57 pm

    Because, of course.
    The pedophile runs again ??

  11. 11.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 21, 2019 at 5:57 pm

    @TenguPhule: And they are old, mostly over 60 plus. That is why the Youngs are so pissed off, The Olds will be dead and buried when the consequences that they voted for take effect. The Youngs know what is going to happen to them if Brexit happens and the FYIGM 60 somethings don’t give a shit.

  12. 12.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    DRPK’s Foreign Minister showed up a a ceremony, 3 seats over from Little Kim, after the Media claimed that the whole team had been fed to piranas, for the failure of the Vietnam meeting.

    Funny that.

    The “best evidence” the US floats for Iran attacking Tankers in the Gulf, II, Electric Boogaloo, is an IRGC UXO crew risking their lives, to remove an Italian made limpet mine that hasn’t dentonated, from the hull, above the waterline*, after rescuing the tankers crew.

    *the Italian limpet mines are a shaped charge, that relies on the tamping effect of water, to be effective. Placed above water the detonation causes the magnetic seal to break, the cone that shapes the charge to fly away from the hull, and the jet of the formed penetrator to be positioned to far away for effective penetration and after effect*.

    Meanwhile, back at the Ranch,

    Sawdi Arabia is excecuting dissents, former members of government, children and women rights activists with public beheadings, cruifixions, and of course, bone saws while alive and pizza ovens.

    Israel has snipers shooting women, children, medics, media, old men, to cripple, not to kill, in the hundreds, for peaceful protests, detains over 2000 children in black sites and broke ground on a Trump branded illegal settlement on Palestinian land.

    And then there’s the shithole neoFacist USA,…..

    It’s a funny old world.

  13. 13.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    @rikyrah: Worse, he might win this time.

  14. 14.

    rikyrah

    June 21, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    @lamh36:

    ????

  15. 15.

    rikyrah

    June 21, 2019 at 5:59 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    I know ???

  16. 16.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    @mkraju
    Liz Cheney this morning to Hewitt: “The failure to respond to this kind of direct provocation that we’ve seen now from the Iranians … could in fact be a very serious mistake”

    Liz Cheney to me later, says Trump has “absolutely” shown he will “do what’s right” in “defending” US

    84
    9:15 AM – Jun 21, 2019

    The Republicans have decided a fresh new war would be good for their election chances.

  17. 17.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 21, 2019 at 6:02 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: thank god nothing like that happens on this side of the pond!

  18. 18.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 6:04 pm

    The report, based on interviews with three US officials with knowledge of the plans, said the raids are intended to target as many as 2,000 families in Houston, Chicago, Miami, Los Angeles and among other cities with a large migrant population.

    Trump revealed the operation in a tweet on Monday night that said US immigration agents were planning to make mass arrests starting “next week”.

    I’m not sure what’s worse.

  19. 19.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 6:08 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    They won’t be dead by October 31, 2019.

    The short term effects of being out of the EU, with no bilateral agreements on anything, and trying to immediately trade on WTO rules, with no infrastructure in place, is going to slam down hard.

    Some of the long term effects can be mitigated over time, if you ever get a competent Government again, but the UK as it was, is toast.

  20. 20.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 6:09 pm

    Texas governor Greg Abbott announced that the state will deploy 1,000 National Guard troops to the US-Mexico border.

    He said the troops will “provide assistance at temporary holding facilities” in the Rio Grande Valley and El Paso and also help at ports of entry, according to the Texas Tribune.

    Ashley Goudeau
    ✔
    @AshleyG_KVUE
    TX is also opening centers to hold adults. “All of this is necessary because Congress refuses to do its job” says @GregAbbott_TX

    3
    7:11 AM – Jun 21, 2019

  21. 21.

    rikyrah

    June 21, 2019 at 6:15 pm

    Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) Tweeted:
    How is it not the top story on every news channel that a bunch of GOP lawmakers in Oregon are literally fugitives from the state police and have teamed up with extremist paramilitary groups to shut down the state capitol? https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1142154716559937541?s=17

  22. 22.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 6:16 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    You can buy a 30lb box of 1” roofing nails, (10,000) for $41.95.

    ICE vehicles are kept in secure carparks and underground garages to protect them from vandalism, ususally with only one way in or out.

  23. 23.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    Liz Kreutz
    ✔
    @ABCLiz
    Here is San Francisco Mayor @LondonBreed’s statement on the ICE raids expected to start here Sunday.

    SF is one of 10 cities targeted. The full list of cities includes:
    Atlanta
    Baltimore
    Chicago
    Denver
    Houston
    Los Angeles
    Miami
    New Orleans
    New York
    San Francisco

    12
    11:56 AM – Jun 21, 2019

  24. 24.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 6:18 pm

    @rikyrah:

    and have teamed up with extremist paramilitary groups to shut down the state

    Okay, this is new.

  25. 25.

    debbie

    June 21, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    Not that I am a frequenter of Alabama news, but has Jones been getting a lot of criticism from his constituents?

  26. 26.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 21, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    @rikyrah:

    How is it not the top story on every news

    Because trump

  27. 27.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 6:20 pm

    Mother Jones
    ‏
    Verified account

    @MotherJones
    Follow Follow @MotherJones
    More
    Armed extremists in Oregon just pledged to protect Republican senators so they don’t have to vote on climate legislation

    There’s probably a stupider way to kick off civil insurrection. But right now I can’t think of one.

  28. 28.

    debbie

    June 21, 2019 at 6:21 pm

    @rikyrah:

    The reporting I heard (while driving) was that the Republican legislators asked the paramilitaries to stay out of it.

  29. 29.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 21, 2019 at 6:21 pm

    @Jay: Agreed, and if Boris Johnson becomes Prime Minister, God help us all. The man is a fucking lunatic.

  30. 30.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 6:22 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: I think you misspelled Robert Murdoch.

  31. 31.

    rikyrah

    June 21, 2019 at 6:23 pm

    Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) Tweeted:
    NEW: Trump’s constant riffs about extending his term and false claims about rigged elections has people chattering in the halls of Congress and throughout the Beltway: What if Trump simply won’t accept defeat in 2020?

    My latest w/@dsamuelsohn https://t.co/lf8wVH0c9B https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1142043336322277377?s=17

  32. 32.

    debbie

    June 21, 2019 at 6:23 pm

    @Sab:

    We don’t worry about them breaking the china or other nice stuff in the White House.

    No, we just have to make sure it’s not in their luggage when they vacate the premises.

  33. 33.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 6:24 pm

    David Frum
    ✔
    @davidfrum
    The White House today issued a statement from Donald Trump denying that he ever met E. Jean Carroll in his life. Here’s the @NYMag photo of the two of them talking in 1987

    1,158
    11:42 AM – Jun 21, 2019

    Is it just me or does this newsdump Friday feel worse then usual?

  34. 34.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 21, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    @Jay:

    You can buy a 30lb box of 1” roofing nails, (10,000) for $41.95.

    ICE vehicles are kept in secure carparks and underground garages to protect them from vandalism, ususally with only one way in or out.

    You volunteering, or just suggesting that people in other countries commit felonies for kicks?

  35. 35.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    To start the effort to impeach Donald Trump, U.S. Rep. William Lacy Clay announced Friday he has filed Articles of Impeachment against the president.

    “Impeachment is the only constitutionally available remedy that would directly address President Trump’s blatant and repeated attempts to obstruct justice, his repeated lies to Congress, and most importantly his lies to the American people,” Clay said in a statement.

    Joining Clay as co-sponsors of House Resolution 13 are two other Democratic congressmen, Brad Sherman of California and Al Green of Texas.

    https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/clay-files-articles-of-impeachment-against-trump/article_084f00b4-eeb2-5dfb-89da-39503b01a893.html

  36. 36.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 6:27 pm

    Asked what he’ll do differently now versus his 2017 Senate bid, Roy Moore says: “I would like to make more personal contact with people.”

    Hide your daughters, Alabama.

  37. 37.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 21, 2019 at 6:30 pm

    I read the first two pages of the Hannity/Manafort text record and decided I’d killed enough brain cells. Sean Hannity is a loon.

  38. 38.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I’m no longer allowed to travel to the US for my personal security.

    Is littering a felony?

    Do your activists not know how to use night, dark clothing and various means to neuter facial recognition?

    You could try a human chain of pedestrians and cyclists using their right of free movement, but that would require getting some privledged wipple to care.

  39. 39.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 6:34 pm

    LAKELAND — A 32-year-old woman was arrested on June 15 when she gathered her husband’s guns to turn them over to the Lakeland Police Department.

    According to Courtney Irby’s arrest affidavit, she told police her husband had been taken to jail for trying to run over her with a car. Irby said she went to Joseph Irby’s apartment on Village Center Drive in Lakeland and searched for the guns she knew he had.

    https://www.theledger.com/news/20190620/lpd-woman-arrested-for-turning-in-husbands-firearms-to-lakeland-police

  40. 40.

    lamh36

    June 21, 2019 at 6:36 pm

    @Lawrence
    Follow Follow @Lawrence
    More
    Tonight E. Jean Carroll will tell us her story @thelastword at 10PM. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/president-donald-trump-faces-new-rape-accusation.html?utm_source=tw … via @intelligencer

  41. 41.

    Brachiator

    June 21, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    If they love their party, Conservative members have an unusual way of showing it. According to a survey by YouGov, 54% of party members say they would rather see their own party destroyed than have Brexit not take place. Sixty-one per cent would prefer to see “significant damage to the UK economy” and 63% would consider Scotland leaving the United Kingdom to be a price worth paying.

    I suspect that YouGov slants their questions to get the most provocative responses. The last couple of polls also came up with some nasty slams against Labour Party leader Corbyn.

    But apart from this, many Leave supporters foolishly believe that predictions of problems are scare tactics, or that mystical properties of British resolve will allow the country to weather any BREXIT storms.

    ETA. There may also be some hints that extreme BREXIT supporters might abandon the Tories and vote for the new BREXIT party if there are delays and a new general election.

  42. 42.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Sean Hannity is a loon.

    That’s an insult to fine looking loons everywhere.

  43. 43.

    ThresherK

    June 21, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    @TenguPhule: My Wilmerites’ acquaintances’ heads are going to explode trying to reconcile Crown Princess Tulsi saying this about Joe Biden.

  44. 44.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    June 21, 2019 at 6:41 pm

    New tag “Show us were Moore touched the electoral body”

    Trump played chicken with a real war last night so it sounds like all the little lunatic have to up their drama now.

  45. 45.

    A Ghost To Most

    June 21, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    @Jay:
    As much as I applaud her initiative, she broke into a residence she never lived in, and stole weapons. That’s burglary.

  46. 46.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    A fundamentalist Christian man who is the self-proclaimed founder of the “Biblical Flat Earth Society” was arrested this week and charged with 56 counts of child sexual exploitation.

    Local news station WTVD reports that Durham, North Carolina resident Phillip Stephen Stallings is facing dozens of charges of sexually exploiting minors after he allegedly “downloaded media that involved minors engaging in sexual activities.”

    In addition to facing 28 counts of second-degree sexual exploitation of a minor and 28 counts of third-degree sexual exploitation of a minor, Stallings this week was also served with a warrant related to financial card theft and cyberstalking.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/fundamentalist-christian-who-founded-biblical-flat-earth-society-busted-on-56-counts-of-child-sexual-exploitation/

  47. 47.

    ThresherK

    June 21, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: “Show us on this doll (Miss Liberty) where Roy Moore touched you.”

  48. 48.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 21, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    @rikyrah: that would take cojones. And trump lacks cojones.

  49. 49.

    chris

    June 21, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    Lots more about the militias in JJ’s feed but this is a funny little bit of history.

    I haven't read any of the press stories yet, but Oregon is kind of famous when it comes to quorum busting. In 1988, Capitol Police carried US Senator Bob Packwood feet-first into the chamber in the wee hours of the morning to compel his presence.— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) 21 June 2019

  50. 50.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 21, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Trump played chicken with a real war last night

    There was no order to attack and there were no planes in the air. He’s lying as always, trying to act butch.

  51. 51.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 6:48 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:

    In Canada, marriage, even Common Law, negates personal property outside of Inheritances predating the marriage and kept seperate via various legal means, from the marriage. (eg, as soon as you spend or invest even a part of those assests “on the marriage”, it becomes communal property.)

    In Canadian law, once living together for 6 months or formally married, there is no mine our yours.

  52. 52.

    lamh36

    June 21, 2019 at 6:49 pm

    When Slaveowners Got Reparations https://nyti.ms/2DgInXo

  53. 53.

    JPL

    June 21, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    @TenguPhule: Imagine being offline most of the day and just now trying to catch up.

  54. 54.

    A Ghost To Most

    June 21, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    @Jay:
    Goody for Canada, but if I am not mistaken, this was Floriduh, aka Darwin’s waiting room.

    No disrespect to Canadians; my enduring love of hockey precludes it.

  55. 55.

    trollhattan

    June 21, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    It’s the ‘new usual’ that takes getting used to.

    Every day in Trumpland is like three in a normal place.

  56. 56.

    BC in Illinois

    June 21, 2019 at 7:02 pm

    @Brachiator:

    63% [of Tory Party members] would consider Scotland leaving the United Kingdom to be a price worth paying [as long as they can have Brexit].

    We’ll see if they get their wish.

    You learn things by checking on international politics. The Scottish National Party, commenting on “Boris Johnson or Jeremy Hunt? Scotland must have an alternative,” notes that even the Tories in Scotland don’t want Boris Johnson:

    The Scottish Tories had previously briefed that they were running “Operation A**e” to prevent Boris Johnson from becoming Tory leader.

    You have to spell it in British.

  57. 57.

    Mandalay

    June 21, 2019 at 7:03 pm

    @Jay:

    You can buy a 30lb box of 1” roofing nails, (10,000) for $41.95.

    You post some great stuff, and your heart is in the right place, but that post is not cool at all.

  58. 58.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    Hope all Philly Jackals are safe, sheltering in place, and will take breathing precautions outdoors over the weekend, ( at least), until the pollution clears out,

    Those massive explosions that rocked my neighborhood in the early hours of the morning, can you guess which refinery unit they occurred on?Yup. The hydrofluoric acid-containing one. pic.twitter.com/1q7vyMWxyB— Gwen Snyder is uncivil (@gwensnyderPHL) June 21, 2019

  59. 59.

    lamh36

    June 21, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    @KevinLevin
    1h1 hour ago
    More
    “In the former capital of the Confederacy, we decided to stop honoring an individual who fought to preserve slavery – and to begin honoring our first African-American president instead.”
    @JasonKamras

    https://twitter.com/KevinLevin/status/1142191711331987457

  60. 60.

    Another Scott

    June 21, 2019 at 7:10 pm

    @Jay: Please stop that.

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  61. 61.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    A ‘Bible tax’: Christian publishers warn that China tariffs could lead to costly Bibles

    Bibles are overwhelmingly printed in China because of the specialized technology and skills they require to produce.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  62. 62.

    lamh36

    June 21, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    @Hicks_JustinM
    Someone has spray painted “Good Shoot” on the memorial family and others have set up for Eric Logan.

    @Hicks_JustinM
    Follow Follow @Hicks_JustinM
    More
    Someone named Julie checked the memorial near the teddy bear – apparently a picture of Eric Logan was taken, too.

    @Hicks_JustinM
    Follow Follow @Hicks_JustinM
    More
    Someone named Julie checked the memorial near the teddy bear – apparently a picture of Eric Logan was taken, too.

    https://twitter.com/Hicks_JustinM/status/1142134733159260162

  63. 63.

    James E Powell

    June 21, 2019 at 7:16 pm

    @rikyrah:

    What if Trump simply won’t accept defeat in 2020?

    The press/media, led by the NYT, would consider it the greatest thing that ever happened to them. They would promote it and cover it like it was the Super Bowl combined with the Oscars.

  64. 64.

    TenguPhule

    June 21, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    Republican state senators in Oregon continued to engage in a high-stakes game of brinksmanship today with Democratic lawmakers, saying they are prepared to sue if the Senate president goes through with a threat to impose a $500 fine for each day they delay a vote on a landmark climate plan.

    “We will file legal action,” said Sen. Tim Knopp, a Republican from Bend who has said he has been in three states in the past three days. “If they were trying to bring us back, threatening to arrest us and impose fines isn’t going to work.”

    Senate Majority Leader Ginny Burdick pushed back, saying Republicans have no legal course as the fine is explicitly written in statute. A GoFundMe to cover the rogue lawmakers’ expenses and fines raised nearly $30,000 in less than a day. State ethics laws prohibit officials from receiving gifts exceeding $50, so it’s unclear whether senators could access the money.

    Always Be Grifting.

  65. 65.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    @Mandalay:

    When the State goes rogue, there are only four options,

    – Mass Protest, but y’all arn’t going to go all Hong Kong over refugees,

    – Direct Action, like non violent sabotage,

    – Covert Action like the Reagan/Bush Era smuggling of South and Central American Refugee’s to Canada via an underground railroad. Unfortunately, the Clinton Administration and Canada signed the FSN Agreement, with the US avowing and taking on legal responsibility to accept and protect refugee’s, and we can’t get Trudeau to tear it up yet, and the Survelliance State makes reviving the underground railroad, extremely difficult.

    – Revolution.

    Voting Treason Twitler out in November, 2020 won’t do anything about the raids this weekend.

    An example of Direct Action:

    https://itsgoingdown.org/hamilton-pride-2019-reportback/

  66. 66.

    lamh36

    June 21, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    @lamh36:

    @Hicks_JustinM
    57m57 minutes ago
    More
    The rally in South Bend is slowly heating up.

    @Hicks_JustinM
    Follow Follow @Hicks_JustinM
    More
    @PeteButtigieg arrived. He was immediately issued 10 demand by protestors the second he left his car. He’s now taking really hard questions. This is honestly unlike anything I’ve seen. Pics and video soon.

    5:39 PM – 21 Jun 2019 from South Bend, IN
    https://twitter.com/Hicks_JustinM/status/1142200317523693568

  67. 67.

    chris

    June 21, 2019 at 7:19 pm

    @Jay: Hush, Jay! And don’t tell them about the abortion law either.

  68. 68.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 7:21 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    That’s a violation of GoFundMe’s terms of service.

    Members of GoFundMe can report the Campaign for violating the terms of service and shut it down.

  69. 69.

    lamh36

    June 21, 2019 at 7:22 pm

    @lamh36:

    @adamwren
    Follow Follow @adamwren
    More Adam Wren Retweeted WSBT
    Buttigieg’s police chief is yelling at citizens as they pepper him with intense questions. Quite a scene.

    @WSBT
    Follow Follow @WSBT
    More
    Rally for Eric Logan, who was shot and killed by a South Bend police officer. Mayor Pete Buttigieg has interrupted his presidential campaign to attend. He is addressing a crowd and getting responses from upset attendees:

    https://twitter.com/adamwren/status/1142203421564555264

  70. 70.

    chopper

    June 21, 2019 at 7:22 pm

    @Mandalay:

    i know. i mean you can get a 30lb box of 1” roofing nails for closer to 30 bucks.

  71. 71.

    ThresherK

    June 21, 2019 at 7:31 pm

    @lamh36: You’ve read more about this than I. Does the crowd smell fishy (like 2016) to you?

  72. 72.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:

    Apparently the Floriduh Cops jumped the gun.

    Florida has an Equitable Property Law, which mean’s it’s only “his” Apartment and “his” guns, if he never brought them inside the marriage, ( eg, spending joint income post marriage on rent or ammo, or, even taking his guns to her place overnight for “security”),

    Which should have required depositions from both parties, and a search of financial records, before laying charges.

    Hopefully, she gets a good lawyer.

  73. 73.

    Gelfling 545

    June 21, 2019 at 7:36 pm

    @TenguPhule: John Lewis also defended him and I value his opinions.

  74. 74.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 7:38 pm

    Four anti-fascist activists cited for disorderly conduct after a December street brawl with a pair of white supremacists in downtown Corvallis will not be prosecuted.

    In a letter this week to Benton County authorities, Yamhill County District Attorney Brad Berry announced his decision to decline prosecution, saying there was no clear case to be made against the antifa activists. Neither of the two neo-Nazis involved in the fracas was ever arrested.”

    Read on for the ususal The State protecting Nazi’s BS.

    https://democratherald.com/news/local/no-formal-charges-in-corvallis-brawl-prosecutor-drops-case-amid/article_f75a9f92-2369-5a13-930c-904432b7314a.html#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

  75. 75.

    bemused

    June 21, 2019 at 7:38 pm

    @lamh36:

    Love it!

  76. 76.

    Ben Cisco

    June 21, 2019 at 7:38 pm

    Extremely anecdotal from Alabama:

    In a gathering of 20, news about Moore running again came up. Eyeballs rolled so hard I thought I was in a bowling alley.

    That said, if Evil Keebler Elf runs, I wouldn’t give odds on the outcome.

    The fight continues.

  77. 77.

    lamh36

    June 21, 2019 at 7:39 pm

    @ThresherK: “fishy” how?

  78. 78.

    Harry Hamid

    June 21, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    Moore has so many other branches of government to get kicked out of. OK, at lest 2 more, seeing as how he’s been booted from the judicial branch twice.

    If I were a betting man, I’d bet he’s the next Senator from the great State of Alabama.

  79. 79.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 7:49 pm

    RENTON, WA (KIRO/CNN) – The FBI is investigating a possible explosion that took place at the United Christian Church Wednesday morning. It’s the second attack on the church this week.
    The apparent target is a Pride Month display the church put up to show its inclusivity.

    Noises woke people up in the neighborhood.

    “There was explosives taped to the back of the doors, and you could see where the other ones had blown up. One did not go off,” said Bailey Laronde, who teaches preschool in a building near the church.

    https://www.wlbt.com/2019/06/20/explosion-wash-church-pride-month-display-investigated-possible-hate-crime/

  80. 80.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 7:52 pm

    @lamh36:

    Non neighborhood people unconcerned about the shooting, just showing up to harass Buttigieg because he’s running for President.

  81. 81.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 7:57 pm

    In this longer version of the video, you can see the woman apparently posing no immediate threat as she passes behind Mark Field. He marches her out of the room by her neck. I wasn’t there, so I can’t say she didn’t pose a risk, but it looks heavy handed. pic.twitter.com/zX2BtcPW4t— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) June 20, 2019

    Video at link. Mark Field, May’s Foreign Office Minister assaults a female Greenpeace protestor engaged in non-violent protest.

    Get’s a suspension, not fired, yet.

  82. 82.

    Ivan X

    June 21, 2019 at 8:02 pm

    Single Sided, Double Density? We talking IBM PC 360K 5.25” floppies here?

  83. 83.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 8:05 pm

    @Ivan X:

    Same Shit, Different Day.

  84. 84.

    ThresherK

    June 21, 2019 at 8:09 pm

    @lamh36: Actors who are not who they say they are mixed in with the ones who are, either onsite or amplifying this on Twitter.

  85. 85.

    Amir Khalid

    June 21, 2019 at 8:20 pm

    @Mandalay:
    Plus, there will most definitely be security cameras on the entrances and exits to those secure parking locations; anyone spreading roofing nails on their driveway is 100% going to get caught.

  86. 86.

    A Ghost To Most

    June 21, 2019 at 8:24 pm

    @Jay:
    She never lived in the residence that was broken into. Suppose she also took a roommates’s gun by accident. Is that still ok, because she was on a noble quest?

  87. 87.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 21, 2019 at 8:30 pm

    @Jay: I haven’t been following closely, but Pete has certainly not covered himself in glory with how he’s addressed this, and the AA community there has long had a frosty relationship with him.

  88. 88.

    lamh36

    June 21, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    @Jay: @ThresherK: So far no one has claim “outside agitators” except those who want the upset folks to get over it already

  89. 89.

    Jay

    June 21, 2019 at 8:44 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:

    Under Florida law, she didn’t have to reside there. Once married, sleeping over counts, being given a key counts, ( or not taking one back from when they were dating), using any communal income, to pay rent, utilities, groceries, booze, ammo, new guns, cleaning products.

    How did she get the roommate’s gun if Florida Law for storage was being followed?

  90. 90.

    ThresherK

    June 21, 2019 at 9:05 pm

    @lamh36: Thanks. I have no lay of the land for there.

  91. 91.

    J R in WV

    June 21, 2019 at 9:54 pm

    If Trump loses the election, then on January 20, 2021, just after noon, he will be taken into custody for multiple indictments in multiple states. Wherever he is, unless he flees the nation for a state where he would be protected from extradition.

    All the arresting officers will need to do is show the arrest warrants to the security detail and allow them to accompany Trump into his custody. You think the Secret Service loves this ambulatory excrement? Nope. No way he treats them with any respect.

  92. 92.

    tybee

    June 22, 2019 at 4:59 am

    @Ivan X: single sided would have been 160k or 180k

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