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Late Night Open Thread: The Vital Questions for 2020

by Anne Laurie|  June 22, 201912:33 am| 51 Comments

This post is in: 2020 Elections, Open Threads, #notintendedtobeafactualstatement, I Smell a Pulitzer!

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Candidate comfort food:

Warren: Chips and guacamole
Harris: Fries
Gabbard: Vegan cupcakes
Buttigieg: Beef jerky
Gillibrand: Whiskey
Castro: Iced tea
Booker: Veggies
Klobuchar: Baked Potato
Williamson: “I have no comfort food”

(@NYtimes) pic.twitter.com/vI9EISTo7h

— Behind 2020 (@Behind2020) June 20, 2019

The NYTimes has an intensive ‘interactive’ video-piece — “18 Questions.
21 Democrats.” — interspersing worthy-if-anodyne questions (Would your focus be improving the Affordable Care Act or replacing it with single payer?… Do you think illegal immigration is a major problem in the United States?) with ones like “What is your comfort food on the campaign trail?”

I personally recommend skipping straight to NYMag‘s quasi-mocking “10 Takeaways From the Times’ Interview With 21 Democratic Candidates”, but I’m a cynic:

The Democratic Party’s first primary debate is still six days away. But if you can’t wait to watch Team Blue’s 2020 contenders — along with a random assortment of back-bench congressmen and rich people who got bored enough to run for president — give largely similar answers to a single set of questions, the New York Times has you covered. The paper just released a video series in which all 21 of the Democrats’ non–Joe Biden candidates answer the same 18 questions…

In any case, I misdoubt Senator Booker is doing himself any favors with the average American voter by advocating for veganism, but the man leans in…

Cory Booker on Instagram doubling down on his comfort food pic.twitter.com/t1nj7uCXNj

— Dartunorro D. Clark (@DartDClark) June 21, 2019

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  1. 1.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2019 at 12:39 am

    Buttigieg: Beef jerky

    Oy vey. Talk about yer ready-made late night talk show monologue material.

  2. 2.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2019 at 12:39 am

    Vegan cupcakes?

  3. 3.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2019 at 12:42 am

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Her family owns a small chain of health food stores in the state.

  4. 4.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 22, 2019 at 12:42 am

    What do you say to a sing-song?

    Makes one concentrate.

  5. 5.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2019 at 12:43 am

    Sarcastic topic title! Me likey.

    I really look forward to 17 more months of hard-hitting, issues-based, policy-focused articles like this from the excellent New York Times!

    FTFNYT!

  6. 6.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2019 at 12:43 am

    @NotMax: Doesn’t make it right.

  7. 7.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 22, 2019 at 12:46 am

    Not a single one of them mentions chocolate.

    I am so disappoint, I might just vote for Trump. Just to show them.

    #chocolatepurity

  8. 8.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2019 at 12:46 am

    @Omnes Omnibus

    If she had answered “Twinkies” she’d be written out of the will.

    ;)

  9. 9.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2019 at 12:53 am

    @SiubhanDuinne

    In fairness, they did ask for comfort, not vital.

    :)

  10. 10.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 22, 2019 at 12:53 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: Booker did. Or is my house the only place where chocolate counts as a vegetable?

  11. 11.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 22, 2019 at 12:54 am

    @NotMax: what if they were organic, grass-fed, free-range Twinkies?

  12. 12.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2019 at 1:01 am

    At least no one said, “There’s nothing as satisfying as a good Ho-Ho.”

    :)

    @Steve in the ATL

    They’d still suck.

    Speaking of culinary abominations, You can now start your day with Twinkie-flavored coffee.

  13. 13.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2019 at 1:02 am

    @Steve in the ATL:

    what if they were organic, grass-fed, free-range Twinkies?

    Are these made from all-natural ingredients and contain no preservatives?

  14. 14.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2019 at 1:04 am

    @NotMax:

    At least no one said, “There’s nothing as satisfying as a good Ho-Ho.”

    You’d have to be a Ding Dong to say that.

  15. 15.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2019 at 1:05 am

    @mrmoshpotato: FFS, it’s Ding Dong.

  16. 16.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2019 at 1:05 am

    @mrmoshpotato

    Patent pending NotMax standard response when people say “But it’s organic!” is “So is coal.”

  17. 17.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2019 at 1:06 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: FFS I saw the typo (stupid keyboard) after posting and corrected it. :P

  18. 18.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2019 at 1:08 am

    @NotMax: I like that.

  19. 19.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 22, 2019 at 1:11 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: Dark chocolate, of course.

  20. 20.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 22, 2019 at 1:11 am

    @mrmoshpotato: (Since it’s after Baud’s bedtime…)The New York Times is garbage.

  21. 21.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 22, 2019 at 1:13 am

    Never let it be said we Yanks are the most absurd.

    These are.

  22. 22.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2019 at 1:15 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I didn’t soak the comment in enough sarcasm. Sorry.

  23. 23.

    rikyrah

    June 22, 2019 at 1:21 am

    Cupcakes?
    Well, if done right, even vegan cupcakes can be good.

    French fries….You can do so much with fries

  24. 24.

    Brachiator

    June 22, 2019 at 1:21 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    what if they were organic, grass-fed, free-range Twinkies?

    Are these made from all-natural ingredients and contain no preservatives?

    I think by law, real Twinkies must be 90 percent preservatives.

  25. 25.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2019 at 1:24 am

    @Brachiator: Are you sure they aren’t made of a bunch of expired ingredients in the bakery?

  26. 26.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2019 at 1:24 am

    As we’re on to the topic of eating, while there are almost too many wonderful food scenes from Tampopo to mention, this is one I’ve always been partial to, as it is done entirely without a syllable of dialogue.

  27. 27.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2019 at 1:34 am

    @Brachiator

    I believe the plan was to use them as a reverse canary in a coal mine for Yucca Mountain. If the Twinkies are stale, the stuff in the barrels has decayed to the point of non-lethality.

    ;)

  28. 28.

    HumboldtBlue

    June 22, 2019 at 1:38 am

    There’s always Abby Abinanti who makes wisdom accessible.

  29. 29.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 22, 2019 at 1:42 am

    That ‘whiskey’ answer sure is something.

  30. 30.

    FelonyGovt

    June 22, 2019 at 1:44 am

    Cage free Twinkies.

    Glad to see that the NY Times has the hard-hitting journalism of Parade Magazine.

  31. 31.

    Brachiator

    June 22, 2019 at 1:51 am

    @NotMax:

    Twinkies, like diamonds, are forever.

    …Twinkies do have an sell-by window, and it’s only about 25 days. After about a month Twinkies start to get hard and brittle

    Steve Ettlinger, author of the book “Twinkie, Deconstructed,” says Twinkies get hard, but that doesn’t mean you can’t eat them.

    “I’ve got some that are 8 years old. They are hard but they are not spoiled,” he said. 

    So Twinkies could last 30 years, but they just might not be that fun to eat. And one thing different about Twinkies is they don’t rot. 

    https://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2012/11/16/29310/how-long-is-the-shelf-life-of-a-twinkie/

  32. 32.

    Redshift

    June 22, 2019 at 1:59 am

    @Brachiator:

    I think by law, real Twinkies must be 90 percent preservatives.

    Organic, grass-fed, free-range preservatives, so it’s okay.

  33. 33.

    Steeplejack

    June 22, 2019 at 2:01 am

    @Redshift:

    Fair trade, artisanally sourced? That’s important.

  34. 34.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2019 at 2:08 am

    @Steeplejack

    As with some Cuban cigars, Twinkies hand-rolled on the thighs of nubile young things?

    ;)

  35. 35.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    June 22, 2019 at 2:09 am

    OK, some genuinely vital questions: with the threat of ICE raids and mass deportation, how can I volunteer to help shelter/hide people who might be targets? Mr. Colette and I talked about this; we live in one of the cities Trump intends to focus on, have some extra room in our house, and are willing to take folks in and help with daily transport, legal aid, etc. as well. We’re rich and lucky – relatively speaking – and the sight of concentration camps in our own country has us burning with rage. BURNING. I’ve already given money to RAICES but that’s not enough. Those ICE fuckers are Nazis, and we’re ready to be the Dutch.

    What kinds of legal risks will we face? What other practical considerations are there?

    I did do some obvious things like searching “undocumented immigrants housing shelter help san francisco” and various other likely terms, but the results were surprisingly unhelpful – most are for people looking for help rather than offering it. I guess online guides to breaking the (stupid, evil, immoral) law are more focused on those who want to build bombs, join ISIS, etc. than those who want to punch Nazis and hide vulnerable victims of racism.

    I’m probably going to ask this question in one or more additional threads in the next day or so. I’d love to see another front-page “how to help” post focused on direct action, not just donations, important as those are.

  36. 36.

    Redshift

    June 22, 2019 at 2:10 am

    @Brachiator: A friend found a Twinkie in his trunk that had been there an indeterminate number of years. He unwrapped it and it was indeed rock hard, but the filling seemed to be unchanged. We suspect it’s a petroleum product.

  37. 37.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2019 at 2:16 am

    Idly poking around the web, looking at recipes. A bit more involved than would usually bother with for just li’l ol’ me but damn, it looks good (except for the cilantro garnish).

  38. 38.

    Ruckus

    June 22, 2019 at 2:18 am

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Gained her 5 points on my scale – and I don’t drink.

  39. 39.

    prostratedragon

    June 22, 2019 at 3:04 am

    @NotMax: It jerks you back into yourself. After an hour of looking at delicious food you want that rice omelet — or at least some scrambled eggs — like nobody’s business, and you know where you can get some. Brilliant.

    Recently when I fixed spaghetti/meat sauce I described the etiquette scene to my mother, between slurps. She caught on right away.

  40. 40.

    dmsilev

    June 22, 2019 at 3:42 am

    @Brachiator:

    Twinkies, like diamonds, are forever.

    Diamonds aren’t forever. They’re a metastable state of carbon and over a long enough timespan will decay to graphite. Also, as I have seen first-hand in my work environment, sufficient abuse will break one fairly easily. We’ve had diamonds chip, crack, break in half, and once had one explode into powder. That was fun…

    Yes, deBeers lied to us all.

  41. 41.

    AnotherBruce

    June 22, 2019 at 3:47 am

    Food comes and goes, but Twinkies are eternal.

  42. 42.

    tobie

    June 22, 2019 at 4:09 am

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: I asked someone the same question, and they recommended this organization for helping trans asylum seekers:

    http://www.santafedreamersproject.org/sponsor-a-trans-asylum-seeker

    While we are currently prioritizing sponsors in the Bay Area, Sacramento, LA, Seattle, Portland, Denver, Chicago, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Boston, and New York, we encourage people from all over the US to reach out. We have at least 30 women awaiting placement.

  43. 43.

    tobie

    June 22, 2019 at 4:11 am

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: This is the other organization I was told about that hooks up asylum seekers with sponsors:

    https://www.showingupforracialjustice.org/caravan.html

    Both groups — Showing Up for Racial Justice & Santa Fe Dreamers Project — have experience with this and can answer your questions. Thanks for doing this!

  44. 44.

    Ruckus

    June 22, 2019 at 4:45 am

    @dmsilev:
    That diamond powder is useful stuff for some occupations and can be made into many useful things. Combined with tungsten carbide powder it can be shaped with electricity and can then be used to cut intricate shapes into that graphite that it will decay into longer than most every thing else. That of course is not it’s only use, it can also be used it to lap extremely fine surfaces to extreme fine tolerances, and as a grinding compound for use on tungsten carbide.

  45. 45.

    satby

    June 22, 2019 at 5:37 am

    @NotMax: I say petroleum, but we’re on the same page.

  46. 46.

    Chris Johnson

    June 22, 2019 at 7:20 am

    @Major Major Major Major: Whiskey and kicking ass? (or maybe, whiskey and throwing things?)

    Though she is not my favorite, I’d love to see her comfort-fooding by drinking whiskey and throwing things at Mitch McConnell. That would comfort me and her both :)

  47. 47.

    Currants

    June 22, 2019 at 9:40 am

    @HumboldtBlue: that’s a great interview (well, first part is anyway. I’ll watch the others later). Thank you!

  48. 48.

    Mohagan

    June 22, 2019 at 12:07 pm

    @Ruckus: I agree. One of the best factoids I’ve ever read about her.

  49. 49.

    J R in WV

    June 22, 2019 at 12:30 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Must admit it struck a chord with me… late at night I am known to do a taste of the brown liquor before bed…

  50. 50.

    J R in WV

    June 22, 2019 at 12:32 pm

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice:

    Find a minister who’s church is actually Christian instead of “Christian” and who is working to help immigrants. Suggest Episcopal, they seem to range between helpful and activist. Meet in person.

  51. 51.

    Syd the science kid

    June 22, 2019 at 1:09 pm

    Gillibrand wins.

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