The Guardian‘s liveblog is here — that’s probably how I’ll be following along:
… In terms of what we can expect our diez Democrats to discuss tonight, the DNC has promised questions about the climate crisis, which were conspicuously absent from the presidential debates in 2016.
Many of the candidates have said they support the ambitious Green New Deal, but some of the more centrist types – including Biden – are holding off. Also expect quizzing on healthcare, a real point of differentiation where some contenders support Medicare for All, some are only up for improving Obamacare, and others are somewhere in the middle.
The DNC has been at pains to promote this as a more serious debate than we have seen from Republicans in recent times, which won’t be difficult, and expect other big topics such as college fees, student loans, impeachment and, given the current situation at the border: immigration policy…
NBC.com’s liveblog is here (they’re sponsoring the debate, in partnership with MSNBC and Telemundo.
May the best woman candidate win!
dmsilev
I for one intend to follow it via Trump’s Twitter feed. What could possibly go wrong?
Mary G
I like Warren’s purple jacket – no pandering to flag humpers.
Baud
Go Team 1.
Duane
There’s a middle between Medicare fo all and Obamacare? Don’t get off in the weeds. Pick one and go with it. May the best plan win, but rethugs thrive on dissension. Basically by lying. Stay on point.
Major Major Major Major
I’m gonna tune in on one of the YouTube streams. If it doesn’t hold me after a half hour, I’ll probably wander off and watch Evangelion.
dmsilev
@Major Major Major Major: MSNBC has a stream on their site..
Barbara
@Duane: Buying in to Medicare while leaving other options alone.
zhena gogolia
I made it through 5 seconds of Warren. I’ll have to get it via your reactions. This makes me too nervous.
None of them can beat Trump.
Major Major Major Major
@dmsilev: i don’t have MSNBC’s site on my roku, though.
@zhena gogolia: calm down!
zhena gogolia
@Major Major Major Major:
I know everyone will jump on me, but she makes me nervous.
Mary G
Beto breaks into Spanish and takes too long.
Kent
My wife, who is Chilean, was totally turned off by Beto’s canned pandering in Spanish. Data point of one.
Raven
@Major Major Major Major: sign up for the free trial of YouTube tv
Major Major Major Major
These questions are garbage, but like, entertaining popcorn TV I guess.
@Raven: I’m watching it on my tv’s YouTube app.
Ben Cisco
“So, 70 percent?“
Christ, what an asshole.
dmsilev
@Mary G: “Takes too long” is endemic in these debates.
Mike in DC
I hate moderators who are just trying to get the candidates to go after each other.
Betty Cracker
Oh great, another “let’s you and him/her fight” format. Le sigh.
dmsilev
@Ben Cisco: “I’d return us to the tax rates of the 1950s” and leave it at that….
Baud
I take it no one has set Chuck Todd’s beard on fire yet. #MissedOpportunity
chopper
if there ain’t any climate questions there better as fuck be some climate answers.
Raven
Courage. What makes a King out of a slave? Courage.
What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage.
What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist or the dusky dusk?
What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage.
What makes the Sphinx the 7th Wonder? Courage.
What makes the dawn come up like THUNDER?! Courage.
What makes the Hottentot so hot?
What puts the “ape” in ape-ricot?
Whatta they got that I ain’t got?
dmsilev
@Baud: The opportunity hasn’t come up yet. As I understand it, he doesn’t come in until the second hour.
Betty Cracker
Good answer from Castro.
Raven
Fuck you tulsi
Steve in the ATL
@Kent: I also thought “¡cállate, puta!” was the wrong tone
Ben Cisco
@dmsilev: And Guthrie wouldn’t have a clue. Well played.
Soprano2
It was a mistake not to let them make opening statements. I hate that Booker didn’t answer the question.
Doug R
What’s with all the streaming? I’m watching in HD on my TV on my local NBC station KING-TV. Support local business and all that.
Ben Cisco
@Raven: Right? Does she know where she is?
Baud
@Raven:
Did she say something or are you just practicing?
dmsilev
I hope that at the end of this debate, we get to vote on which two candidates get shoved off the boat. Right now, I’m voting for deBlassio and Gabbard to get booted.
Raven
@Baud: 9 fucking 11
Immanentize
@Ben Cisco:
Hello. Always nice to see your nym. I hope you are managing?
Doug R
Jay Inslee with UNIONS!
And wind turbines!
Kent
@Steve in the ATL: pinches gringos
Major Major Major Major
@Doug R: some of us don’t have antennas…
Immanentize
@Raven: Tulsiani
japa21
Not qwatching. Will catch later reviews. But any candidate that says he/she supports “Medicare for All” without defining it drops greatly in my esteem.
Kent
@dmsilev: and that Congressman from Ohio.
Baud
@Raven:
Oooh, the Guliani maneuver.
dmsilev
@Major Major Major Major: Genetic engineering will solve that for you. Also, a free prehensile tail if you call now.
Ben Cisco
@Immanentize: Thanks, I am doing OK. I hope you are as well. . Most everything is good, and I’m working on the things that are not.
Going to need a beverage to get through this show.
plato
Go tim ryan….
Too soon?
mak
@Major Major Major Major: Look for NBC News (not MSNBC). It’s there.
Major Major Major Major
Ooh, industrial policy.
@dmsilev: ahha ha.
Jeffro
5/8 of them are too wound up
7/8 of them agree on 95% of the issues
Calling it now: “Liz and the Midgets”
Immanentize
@Kent: Fuck him.
Dago red wine Ryan
Jim, Foolish Literalist
the horizontal hold is off on my Philco, and I gotta get some tin foil to fix the rabbit ears
WaterGirl
@Baud:
I have missed you!
Doug R
@Major Major Major Major: Most of Canada gets crappy reception, which is why Canada embraced cable TV, to watch American tv.
Ben Cisco
@Jeffro: PHRASING!
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Where have I been?
Baud
@Ben Cisco:
Liz and the Little People?
Immanentize
@Ben Cisco:
First you get through it.
Then you get by.
At least that is my arc. Ride the Defiant whenever possible.
WaterGirl
I’m about 10 minutes behind in the debate. Now that you’ve mentioned Tulsi, I know where I can make up my time, whenever she talks. I don’t even know who a couple of these guys are.
I like Castro’s answer, also.
Immanentize
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: You should have spent for the Admiral.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I’m the one who’s been gone. :-)
Betty Cracker
I’m biased, but so far, I think Warren is killing it.
Mike in DC
Warren winning the authenticity battle hands down so far.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
You’re doing the Lord’s work. Looking forward to your return full-time.
Major Major Major Major
Oh dang, crosstalk, is that allowed?
WaterGirl
Ugh, Tim Ryan. Apologies to anyone here who likes him.
Baud
@Mike in DC:
Who’s winning congeniality?
Mary G
Bill de Blasio interrupts Beto very rudely.
Jeffro
@Ben Cisco: @Baud: LOL
Annnnd now we’re into the unrestrained arguing part…
Soprano2
Well they got what they wanted – a fight.
dmsilev
Who on God’s green Earth cares about Tulsi Gabbard’s views on medical insurance?
Or anything else, to be sure.
Major Major Major Major
@Soprano2: Honestly, we’re going to have to fight about healthcare some time before the election, we might as well start now.
Gin & Tonic
Doing stuff around the house and not watching, but I walked through the room where the non-politics-junkie Mrs G&T was watching, as SPW came on the tube. The Mrs said “I like her.” I replied “so do I.”
Of lengthy and deep conversations such as these is a long and happy marriage made.
Immanentize
@WaterGirl: Hate him!
West of the Rockies
Delaney? Ryan? DeBlasio? Go home. Do good work on a smaller stage. You’re not ready for your close-ups.
Doug R
@dmsilev: Vlad cares
Betty Cracker
De Blasio seems like an an asshole. Delaney reminds me of a guy who cornered me at a party once and caused me to experience existential despair.
Gin & Tonic
@Mary G: Bill de Blasio is an asshole.
MomSense
@Ben Cisco:
I’m having beverages and skipping the show. I figure I’ll catch the highlights (Warren!) later.
It’s a beautiful night in Portland Maine. People are out walking and sitting in sidewalk cafes and bars. I’m listening to my kid’s band play.
Jeffro
@dmsilev: ??
WaterGirl
@Baud: Or Satan’s, depending on how you feel about the new site. :-) But I’m hopeful
Is the lighting shitty at this debate? Everybody looks really pale, kind of like they are all recovering from the flu.
Jeffro
@West of the Rockies: I’ll keep the lady in the middle wearing purple and the rest can keep on keepin’ on…
Baud
@MomSense:
Sounds like you made the right choice.
gwangung
Well, I’m indulging in the snarkiness that’s littering the internets…
WaterGirl
@Gin & Tonic: He’s better if you fast forward through him.
Major Major Major Major
@West of the Rockies:
No, no, Florida can keep him.
MomSense
@WaterGirl:
It’s going to be just right. We all appreciate your hard work!
??
jl
I’m watching for who bloviates and who talks policy.
Klobuchar OK even though I disagree with her.
Warren is A plus
Beto bloviates. Will be interesting if his polls go up or down after his bullshit health care answer.
Delaney claims to be a businessperson but he doesn’t know much about business or economics.
OK, don’t like Gabbard but at least she is saying something.
Booker OK, half way between the dorks Beto-Delaney and Warren.
If other voters are like me Klobuchar’s and Warren’s polls go up, the goofball guys’ go down.
All the male candidates are unimpressive compared to the the better women candidates this cycle.
Edit: Warren is great. From what I’ve heard so far, she is making a great impression. Clear concise excellent explanations and rationales.
Immanentize
@West of the Rockies: white boys are so pretty….
Baud
@WaterGirl:
I’ll hate it, but only as a matter of principle.
Soprano2
@Major Major Major Major: That’s true, it’s a good discussion, better than a faux “debate”.
Gin & Tonic
@WaterGirl: I’m not watching, this is just general NYC knowledge.
Betty Cracker
@MomSense: Sounds like you’re having a more pleasant evening than most! I might have to take a debate break soon because a thunderstorm is coming. Gotta go sit on the porch and watch that.
Kent
DeBlasio? My wife says his picture should be up there in Webster’s under “Mansplaining”
Steve in the ATL
I caught a snippet of hate radio earlier somewhere between Ruby Falls and Rock City (I wish I were kidding). The RWNJ was apoplectic over something Andrew “Who?” Yang said about gun control. “The second amendment is clear!” (Note: it’s not) “I don’t know who Andrew Yang is” (fair enough) “but he shouldn’t get to decide whether I can have a gun!”
Looks like I picked the wrong week to give up locally sourced, artisanal moonshine.
Steve in Appalachia
dmsilev
OK, commercial break. When we come back, the Jeopardy round in which all answers must be phrased in the form of a question.
Doug R
They’re getting to the kids….
hedgehog mobile
Love me some Liz.
Impressed by Castro.
Gabbard is an idiot.
/sips drink/
Mary G
Warren’s lapping everyone else, they all sound like the are operating like tape recorders spewing out focus group pap, and are dull.
Betty Cracker
Castro is good.
NotMax
Only in the long shot, O’Rourke looks like a high schooler not quite adjusted to a new “don’t worry, you’ll grow into it” suit.
dmsilev
Good answer from Castro.
WaterGirl
@MomSense: You guys are very kind. Thank you.
Who is the guy who is asking Castro a question right now?
Soprano2
I hate the Spanish stop it!
WaterGirl
I’m really liking Castro.
Major Major Major Major
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I am vaguely aware that Delaney was a short-time congressman, I’m pretty sure a Dem, from Maryland?
Tazj
@dmsilev: Yes, I think he’s been good in addition to Warren and Klobuchar.
Ben Cisco
@Immanentize: May the Prophets guide your path. In Valen’s name.
How’s that for crossing streams?
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Yes. He announced his run early in 2017.
Betty Cracker
De Blasio is just awful. Go the fuck home!
West of the Rockies
@Jeffro:
I’d be okay with that, but Booker and Castro, Klobuchar and Inslee seem like they something to contribute on some level.
Mike in DC
Are we going to get a foreign policy question at some point? Or a direct question about climate change?
dmsilev
@WaterGirl: Jose Diaz-Balart from Telemundo.
Kent
My Chilean wife says Hispanic twitter is going crazy with all the gringos trying to speak Spanish. “WTF was that. A Klingon accent?” Was one tweet about Booker’s attempt
NotMax
B-J site intermittently going bonkers as to display?
Ben Cisco
@MomSense: An evening well spent indeed.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
The dick measuring portion of the debate will be awkward.
West of the Rockies
Beto seems nervous and out of his league.
Mike in DC
This is a disaster for Beto.
Baud
@Kent:
¡Ay caramba!
Ohio Mom
I am trying to pretend I don’t have any background knowledge of any of them. I figure a lot of people are that way.
It’s discombobulating to me that Gabbard seems more in control of herself than Warren. I like Booker and Klobuchar more than I thought I would. Beto is annoying me by going over his time.
Shame on Castro for attacking Beto.
WaterGirl
I like what the Telemundo moderation is bringing to the questioning.
Mary G
Castro’s growing on me, except mentioning Section 13255 of the immigration, not once, not twice, possibly even more. Beto needs to GTFO.
NotMax
Castro and O’Rourke both wearing the same tie?
Oh noes!
:)
WaterGirl
Am I the only person who can’t edit a comment?
Omnes Omnibus
The blog seems to be broken.
dmsilev
@WaterGirl: I hear through the rumor mill that there’s a new site coming…
Ben Cisco
@WaterGirl: WaterGirl? How are you?
Major Major Major Major
@NotMax: the CDN is having certificate problems.
Jeffro
@West of the Rockies: I hear you, but
– why would one bother with Booker when one can have Castro?
– why would one bother with Klobuchar when one can have Warren?
– Inslee…brings absolutely nothing to the table that the rest of these folks don’t already believe/support
Suzanne
I can’t stand de Blasio. I am liking O’Rourke on immigration. I find Klobuchar to be really uninspiring and both-sidesy but I am trying to get over that.
Came home today just after lunch. The kids just can’t get enough of Spawn the Youngest. Our Luna is definitely adjusting to having a new member of the pack. When the baby cries, Luna immediately goes over to Mr. Suzanne or myself and starts moaning/squeaking and tries to lead us over to the baby. It’s so sweet.
Mary G
Warren’s been shut down a while, because the men yell over each other and ignore the time limits.
Baud
@Suzanne:
Oh, congrats! I missed the news of the birth.
Patricia Kayden
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: So I’ve heard. I live in Maryland but never heard of him before. He must not be paying attention because Democrats aren’t interested in a DINO right about now.
Gin & Tonic
@Suzanne: Hey, congrats, Momma. Hope you and Spawn III are well.
Argiope
@WaterGirl: meanwhile, I’m being given the option to edit other people’s comments. Not to worry, I’ll use my powers for good.
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
FTF stackpath.
Doug R
@Jeffro: Inslee has done stuff ALREADY.
jl
IMHO, some of the guys come off as desperate to make an impression and up their poll numbers. Seems like they came over prepared with bloviation lines that are too long for the time limit. Then they panic because they realize they haven’t said anything (while Warren and Klobuchar have said something). and they filibuster and talk over other people. Hope these guys go away after first couple of debates.
Right now Booker half way between the sad Beto and Warren.
Commenter above said odd the Gabbard seems more in control than Warren. I think Warren comes off as both very informed, organized and clear, but also committed and passionate. Given that we have no clue what is really going on Gabbards head, no telling whether her eerie impression of control is a good or a bad thing.
Immanentize
@Ben Cisco:
Immanentize approved!
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: It’s true!
@Omnes Omnibus: I wonder if it’s me. The current server knows what’s coming.
@Ben Cisco: I have been busy, but well, and I have been missing all of you lately.
dmsilev
@Suzanne: Congratulations! Hope everyone is doing well.
Mary G
@Suzanne: Spawn Three is so exciting, and Luna is adorable.
MomSense
@Suzanne:
Congratulations!!!! ???
I missed this happy news. Hope you are sneaking in some rest.
Ohio Mom
@Suzanne: So happy for you and your family!
Also, are your sinuses back to normal? (crosses fingers)
Lapassionara
@Steve in the ATL: In my youth, Rock City was a major attraction, with whole barns dedicated to publicizing it. Aren’t you lucky, to be near by.
Soprano2
Oh the stupid “day one” question. Gee, reporters, can’t you be more creative than that?
MisterForkbeard
@Suzanne: I missed that the kiddo had spawned! Congrats!
We had the same experience with our youngest. My other daughter was all over being a big sister and the cats were both very concerned for and about the new baby
jl
Good thing is that every candidate is good at navigating the corporate hack news actors’ attempts at biased framing.
Immanentize
@Suzanne:
Hooray. And Luna is a good girl.
Baud
@jl:
That is heartening to hear.
dmsilev
@Soprano2:
Available evidence suggests “no”.
zhena gogolia
@Suzanne:
Congratulations!
plato
FUBAR blog.
Ben Cisco
@Suzanne: Congratulations – bebbies are the best.
Baud
@Soprano2:
Sleep in and take something for my hangover.
Mary G
OK, Tulsi got a good one in with “this president and his chickenhawk cabinet,” then stepped on it by going long with more boilerplate.
WaterGirl
@Argiope: hahahahaha
@Suzanne: Oh my gosh, I missed that you had the baby already! So happy. When my niece was born, my sister’s cocker spaniel would lie down right by the crib and kept watch over the baby every minute of every day. Instant devotion. I agree with you, so sweet.
Kent
Take from my living room?
Booker, Castro, Warren, and Insley are gaining.
The rest? Meh. Klobuchar’s attempt to be the sensible grownup in the room isn’t really playing well for me.
Immanentize
On day one I intend to fully explore the resolute toilet.
dmsilev
Rachel Maddow coming up as a moderator. Also, Chuck Todd. Hopefully someone will take Baud’s suggestion upthread and set Todd’s beard on fire.
TomatoQueen
@NotMax: Not intermittently, continuously here on Fireyfox. All picture links broken and Mozilla has a stern warning up about stackpath. Oooh dearie me.
Soprano2
@dmsilev: It’s a dumb question. How about “What are your three top priorities for your first year?”
Omnes Omnibus
Reading through the comments, it seems that a lot of people are liking the people they liked before and finding problems with the candidates with whom they had problems before. It was also interesting to see that Castro was the first to go after one of the other candidates and that it was an intra-Texas thing.
NotMax
What time is the swimsuit competition?
Jeffro
@Doug R: great, good for him
?
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Tomorrow will be better when we can all hate Bernie as one.
Barbara
@TomatoQueen: It seems to be working on chrome.
Soprano2
@Baud: I wish one of them would say that!
plato
dmsilev
@Baud: See, he’s a unifier!
Immanentize
@dmsilev:
Well, there is no longer any hair to set on fire. Poor fellow. And to increase the catty quotient — I had no idea how little he is. How short. Wee in fact. Until I saw the photo of the moderators in the Times. I wonder if he has a little Hobbit winky as well.
Or just a regular sized Hobbit winky.
Mary G
Dear Dog, let’s not go to Chuck and Rachel and say we did.
Alain
I’m deleting and rebuilding the cache to see if that helps purge whatever crap is clogging some of y’all’s tubes.
Ben Cisco
Chuck Motherfucking Todd. Yuck. Why is he even here?
dmsilev
Someone in the audio control room hates Chuck Todd. Anonymous audio tech, we stand with you!
chris
@Suzanne: Congratulations!
Immanentize
@Soprano2:
Are you a Summer? Or a Winter?
Major Major Major Major
Well that’s a lot more embarrassing than the error the site is having!
SiubhanDuinne
I am vaguely familiar with
SamanthaSavannah Guthrie’s name, but can’t say I really know her. Is she always this vapid, or is she making a special effort for the debate?NotMax
Technical difficulties. Sound engineer must have dashed out for a potty break.
Miss Bianca
@Suzanne: Awww… ; )
How you feeling, mama?
Omnes Omnibus
Okay, so WaterGirl broke the blog, and now Maddow and Todd broke the debate. WTFF?
Ben Cisco
@Immanentize: “So tiny. And petty.”
Leto
@Suzanne: Congratulations!!!
As soon as Chuck Todd speaks, everything goes to shit. So appropriate.
zhena gogolia
@Omnes Omnibus:
Yeah, I think if you’re all in for Warren, she can do no wrong. I’m trying to look at her from the Average Voter’s point of view, and I’m not sold. But then I’m not watching, after the first 5 seconds.
Ben Cisco
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes.
Barbara
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes. Always this vapid but the kind of person whose emptiness shines more brightly when she makes an extra effort to be serious.
Mary G
And the sound guys hate Chuck SO MUCH they’re playing other people backstage over him. Wouldn’t stop and they had to go to commercial.
Suzanne
@Ohio Mom: Sinuses are quickly returning to normal. Not 100% of the way there, but definitely better.
Youngest was born at 11:19 AM yesterday. We got some FABULOUS news today….while she was in utero, it was observed on ultrasound that she had a hole in the ventricular septum and it was suspected that she would need open heart surgery. However, it wasn’t known, because she wasn’t done developing and it is hard to see that level of detail on fetal ultrasound. Anyway, they did an echocardiogram this morning and I got a call from the pediatric cardiologist saying that it appears that it has totally resolved and that no surgery is necessary. WOOT!
Gin & Tonic
@SiubhanDuinne:
Yes.
jl
Looks like the miserable Todd, gazillionaire ignorant corporate hack news actor couldn’t figure out how to find a way to be fair and give each candidate a chance to answer the same question? Did I hear that right? IF so, good to know he is either incompetent or a miserable biased hack with an agenda.
Todd is on my shit list. I saw a clip of that goof delivering a BS outraged bothsidesdoit commentary on the AOC concentration camp flap. If he doesn’t know that the term ‘concentration camp’ far predates the Nazi era he is too ignorant and incompetent to deliver local entertainment news. If he does know he is a dishonest hack.
zhena gogolia
@SiubhanDuinne:
Always.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: I was expecting Beto and Klobuchar, neither of whom I care for, to be doing a lot better. I was expecting Warren, who I like a lot, to be worse. Not that it contradicts your theory, exactly.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Immanentize: Mr. Immanentize, attorneys for the vertically challenged are on line 1.
dmsilev
@Suzanne:
That’s wonderful news.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: Okay, it’s 10:05 ET and I’m closing the BJ thread and turning off the computer. You’ll have to let me know tomorrow if that helped.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Good
TaMara (HFG)
@Alain: Bless you. Because right now the site looks like it was built in 1999. I’m expecting a dancing hampster to show up any minute.
Mary G
@SiubhanDuinne: Not sure, but isn’t she a morning show person and being vapid goes with the job?
Kent
Blog is working for me. I’m using Safari on an iPad.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Alain: I hear that Mexican food will clean out the tubes.
NotMax
I swear if someone asks Gabbard “How about the weather today?” she’ll start off with “Well, compared to the weather when I was serving in the military in Iraq….”
Immanentize
@Suzanne: Woot indeed. Damn.
zhena gogolia
@Mary G:
She was one of the people who had to break the news about Matt Lauer to a grieving nation.
Ohio Mom
@zhena gogolia: That is just how I feel.
TomatoQueen
@Barbara: Also, sidegirl replacement to Ann Curry, gushed all over Matt Lauer, back in those innocent sorry days. Reminds me of Princess Beatrice.
patrick II
@Ohio Mom:
I think Beto is the candidate both Castro and De Blasio think they must step over if they want to hang around. They both interrupted and talked over him.
Kent
Good answer from Booker on guns
Barbara
@NotMax: A noun, a verb, and . . . It becomes tedious no matter how admirable it is.
zhena gogolia
@patrick II:
WHY DOES DE BLASIO THINK ANYONE WANTS TO VOTE FOR HIM FOR PRESIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE?????
Mary G
Cory doing well on guns.
Ohio Mom
@Suzanne: Yes, WOOT! And whew!
I know two babies who needed that surgery. They did fine but not what you want to live through.
Ben Cisco
Booker taking a blowtorch to tots and pears. Nice.
TomatoQueen
@Barbara: Trying Chrome now.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Suzanne: Congrats on Spawn III.
Immanentize
He seems to have prospered. I am just reporting relative heights. But I am sure Chuck Todd feels like he is suffering micro aggresions all the time at like 7,000$ per hour.
ETA. Why do you hate Hobbits?
Leto
@Suzanne: That’s awesome news! Glad the sinuses are returning to normal. It’s always nice to just… breath :)
Kay
I think Kolbachur is having a good night. You cannot rattle her, which I find very appealing.
Also- did not know that Castro hates Beto :)
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I like Klobuchar, but I think she came in with the idea that she was going to be the anti-Bernie and get the VSP to swoon for her. I don’t care for Bernie, but I think Klobuchar took the wrong way from the get-go
jl
Todd takes too far far too long bloviating out crap framing for a debate where each candidate has such little time to talk.
If my blood pressure prevents me from getting through this, it will be moronic ass Chuck Todd and his infuriating shit eating gap.
Looks like Todd pissed off Warren enough for her to really lose control and filibuster.
I hate this crap of not allowing each candidate to answer the same candidate. Looks the pissant Todd (and Maddow?) thought it was a great idea. I think especially bad approach when each candidate has such a short time to respond.
And now Maddow, not noted for brevity, starts talking too much for her question too.. Maddow and Todd together may not be the best pairing.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: I had no real expectations for Booker, but he is coming across as fiery and engaged.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TaMara (HFG):
That’s in the site update, you’re spoiling the surprise.
Soprano2
@Immanentize: I’m a summer, actually.
Kay
I feel like Tim Ryan is contributing by attacking Trump. Maybe keep him around a bit just for that.
Mary G
jl
@jl: Chuck Todd and his infuriating shit eating gape..
Immanentize
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: how can Tulsi tweet that while she is on stage? Seems like she is ready for the Presidency of tweets.
dmsilev
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I trust there will be a shortcut button for the blink tag.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I hope one of them takes a swing at Todd. “Well, Chuck, one thing that helps the president is unprepared interviewers who let him steamroll them with lies and word salads…”
rikyrah
@Gin & Tonic:
?????
chris
Toad trying to get someone, anyone, to say that they’ll take guns away from people. Who’s paying him?
Mary G
@Suzanne: Excellent news!
Kay
@jl:
He doesn’t understand gun buy backs- his own question. Well prepared as usual.
dmsilev
@Immanentize: Hands hidden behind the podium?
Soprano2
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Me too! We can dream……
Kay
@jl:
Todd doesn’t understand gun buy backs- his own question. Well prepared as usual.
Barbara
@Kay: Tim Ryan can deliver stinging blows. His anti-Iraq war speeches could have lit fires. It’s his saving grace. Whereas, his everyman schtick wears thin.
Immanentize
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
“Minnesota Kind” was the wrong move for our moment
NotMax
Thing to contemplate during the next commercial break: which of the men could pull off wearing a purple jacket a la Warren?
:)
Jeffro
Yes…gun confiscation…the burning issue of our times…
I like the occasional focus on the need to take back the Senate
Steeplejack
@Alain:
The formatting breakdown seems to be triggered only when you refresh a page, not when you first open it, at least for me (Firefox on Win10).
Kent
Booker is growing on me. Great answers on guns and SCOTUS. It is a team game and everyone needs to help get us to 50 and beyond.
Jeffro
DeBlasio about to earn a special place in hell here
rikyrah
@Suzanne:
awe. Luna??
zhena gogolia
@dmsilev:
I think somebody said it was her sister.
geg6
@SiubhanDuinne:
Nope, that’s all her.
Keith P.
I’m starting to warm up to Booker. He does better in this format than interviews. And “FLOTUS Rosario Dawson-Booker” has a nice ring to it.
Mary G
I get the feeling that I’m not the only woman watching certain men talking over each other and using too much time, while the women only get a word in when the moderator asks a question.
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Hmm, when I posted that comment the page came back with proper formatting—which went away again when I refreshed. Go figure.
Suzanne
De Blasio sux.
No more Cletus safaris.
geg6
@Suzanne:
By the way, congratulations on new baby Spawn! Yay! Breathing better, I hope.
rikyrah
@Suzanne:
So happy for you and no surgery??
Betty Cracker
Well, that nice little thunderstorm I mentioned upthread knocked out the power, so I’m relying on y’all for commentary. Stop hating on our Rachel, goddamn it!
japa21
@Immanentize: That was done by her sister.
Ohio Mom
@Mary G: No you are not.
Leto
I’m appreciating the cameras showing Chuck Todd’s forward combover. =|
Immanentize
@japa21: I know…. But please let me never have my brother tweet for me when I run for President.
Billy Carter?
Hugh Rodham?
Anyone?
Mike in NC
@chris: NRA?
Immanentize
@Leto: Join the Stephen Miller spray hair club!
Kent
There’s a new part 2 post on the debate on blog
Ohio Mom
@Kent: Thanks
eldorado
via a private source…apparently audio has been a real issue behind the scenes from the get go.
Anne Laurie
New post up top, same topic.
P.S. I’m getting some version of the mobile layout on my desktop, and it’s disconcerting. But at first I thought the mess was MY fault, so I can focus on being grateful for Major Major Major Major and Alain.
Sincerely, guys: THANK YOU for doing the heavy lifting here!
patrick II
@zhena gogolia:
Because he’s the tallest white man there?
Kay
@Barbara:
Oh, now Ryan’s blowing it. I knew I didn’t like him. He should have just attacked Trump.
I cannot bear Delaney. He feels like every man who has ever lectured me. Why is he yelling at us?
RandomMonster
I’m with some others here on Booker— the guy is a good speaker, and I like his responses. I’m still all in for Warren for now though.
Alain
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Especially if it’s in the more experimental side of my repertoire….
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Immanentize:
Jeb “Please Clap” Bush?
(I imagine Shrub watching that one and calling Laura in to watch it on the TiVo, “You think Daddy saw his “smart one” there?”)
Leto
@Immanentize: Join the Cory Booker no hair club!
Leto
I’m glad Todd is there just to give out free time for responses. “Moderator.”
Another Scott
@Steve in the ATL: Our doggie Ellie is from Appalachia. Tiny place.
Cheers,
Scott.
Tenar Arha
@Suzanne: Congratulations on new spawn, & also that’s wonderful news!
joel hanes
@Raven:
You can say that again!