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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Monday Morning Open Thread: Hey, Boo Boo Let’s Go For A Joyride

Monday Morning Open Thread: Hey, Boo Boo Let’s Go For A Joyride

by TaMara|  July 8, 201910:00 am| 110 Comments

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I’m not sure bear spray is going to be a deterrent any longer.

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BOULDER COUNTY, Colo. — A bear went on a wild ride on the Fourth of July, the Boulder County Sheriff’s Office said.

On Thursday night, officials said a bear pulled open an unlocked door and climbed into the vehicle.

After the door shut, the bear tried to get out. Instead, it “butt-shifted” the vehicle into neutral and it rolled backward down a hill about 100 feet.

The car hit a tree, popping open a door, allowing the carjacking bear to get out. But the vehicle was left undrivable.

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  1. 1.

    dmsilev

    July 8, 2019 at 10:04 am

    I trust it was cited for driving without a license?

  2. 2.

    burnspbesq

    July 8, 2019 at 10:05 am

    Right out of a Farmers Insurance TV spot.

  3. 3.

    Snarki, child of Loki

    July 8, 2019 at 10:14 am

    How many of us should have tried using this excuse as a teenager?

    Anyone? Bueller?

  4. 4.

    lumpkin

    July 8, 2019 at 10:14 am

    I’ve seen pictures at Whitney Portal in California of cars where bears have grabbed hold of the door above the window and bent the steel door out enough to break out the window. They recognize food and drink containers left in cars and will tear up the car to get at them.

  5. 5.

    satby

    July 8, 2019 at 10:15 am

    @burnspbesq: first thing I thought when I saw this story.

  6. 6.

    Another Scott

    July 8, 2019 at 10:16 am

    It looks like the car was totaled before it even started moving. (Look at the interior.)

    The doggie backseat hammock seems to be in pretty good shape though!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  7. 7.

    Miss Bianca

    July 8, 2019 at 10:19 am

    DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!

  8. 8.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 8, 2019 at 10:25 am

    The bears are giving Toonces a run for his money.

  9. 9.

    rikyrah

    July 8, 2019 at 10:27 am

    @burnspbesq:

    That, and a sink hole video from this weekend in Maryland..someone was like..

    I wonder when it will turn up on a commercial…LOL

  10. 10.

    debbie

    July 8, 2019 at 10:28 am

    @burnspbesq:

    Ha! I was thinking Allstate’s Mayhem.

  11. 11.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 8, 2019 at 10:34 am

    @rikyrah: I missed that, but I remember years ago in Glen Echo Park, MD (alongside the Potomac), a parking lot opened up and ate a bunch of the cars that were parked there for some event.

    Glen Echo is a defunct amusement park but still used for other things. We used to go to square dances there.

  12. 12.

    Baud

    July 8, 2019 at 10:39 am

    The Fast and the Furriest.

  13. 13.

    Another Scott

    July 8, 2019 at 10:43 am

    ICYMI, Stephen Robinson at Wonkette’s takedown of Dowd’s Pelosi piece:

    Just a taste:

    This is the worst paragraph ever written by a human.

    Read the whole thing.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  14. 14.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 8, 2019 at 10:45 am

    @lumpkin: I think I’ve seen some seagulls at the Jersey Shore who could do that.

  15. 15.

    ThresherK

    July 8, 2019 at 10:45 am

    @lumpkin:

    They recognize food and drink containers left in cars and will tear up the car to get at them.

    Our only trip to Yellowstone was twenty years ago, and even though it was winter our guide gave us all the info on the local fauna. A then-new factoid was that bears had started recognizing the sight of food canisters, instead of just the smell of food.

    That was several generations of bears ago and the bears aren’t getting any dumber.

  16. 16.

    TaMara (HFG)

    July 8, 2019 at 10:47 am

    @Baud: You win the internets for today. Where would you like them sent?

  17. 17.

    Jeffro

    July 8, 2019 at 10:49 am

    Greetings from Ketchikan, folks. I’m about to set off on a kayaking “excursion”…bears don’t like to swim much, I hope? ?

  18. 18.

    Barbara

    July 8, 2019 at 10:52 am

    @Jeffro: Bears are excellent swimmers. They can also climb trees and run very fast.

  19. 19.

    Spanky

    July 8, 2019 at 10:53 am

    @Jeffro: Grizzlies wil … when they’re hungry.

  20. 20.

    James E Powell

    July 8, 2019 at 10:55 am

    @lumpkin:

    I saw the same thing in Sequoia & Kings Canyon. The rangers had a wall of photographs to encourage people to make sure their cars were completely empty.

  21. 21.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 8, 2019 at 10:55 am

    Just how open is this open thread? I have a weird question about German culture but I don’t even know if there’s anyone here who knows the answer.

  22. 22.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 8, 2019 at 10:57 am

    I blogged about sentence-level revision, using a passage from my work in progress as an examples.

  23. 23.

    Spanky

    July 8, 2019 at 10:58 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Knowing the answer is never a criteria for an internet comment.

    Fire away.

  24. 24.

    Jeffro

    July 8, 2019 at 11:00 am

    @Barbara: zoils! I’ll keep to the middle of the river, then…make ‘em work for it if they want a nibble ?

  25. 25.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 8, 2019 at 11:04 am

    @Spanky: We were in Heidelberg, an old university town in southern Germany. And right in the middle of this big department store was a department of dirndl’s. These things. Racks of them. A window display too.

    This is traditional costume like you might wear for traditional performances. Or put on as a costume in the US.

    Why are they selling them next to the sportswear in the department store? Who is buying them in enough quantity to justify that? I don’t recall seeing anyone wearing them on the street.

    Also: Never saw anyone swimming or wading in the Neckar River, except for one couple who was playing with their dog in the water. Is there a pollution issue?

  26. 26.

    trollhattan

    July 8, 2019 at 11:06 am

    @Jeffro:
    Just lasso that griz and he’ll pull you around that bay with scarcely a paddle.

    Real Alaskans waterski behind them.

  27. 27.

    otmar

    July 8, 2019 at 11:07 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: ask. I’m Austrian, not German, but I know our neighbours.

  28. 28.

    SFAW

    July 8, 2019 at 11:07 am

    Somehow, “Colorado bear” does not roll as trippingly off the tongue/keyboard as “Florida/Floriduh man,” but outside of that …

    PS: Which raises the question: do we know for certain that the “bear” wasn’t actually some guy from Floriduh in a bear costume?

  29. 29.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 8, 2019 at 11:09 am

    @Another Scott: I’m a Pelosi fan, but two media figures no Democrat should ever talk to (unless they’re willing to treat said media figures with open, mocking disdain) are Tweety and MoDo

  30. 30.

    Gin & Tonic

    July 8, 2019 at 11:12 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: You’ll see entire stores devoted to that kind of stuff in Bavaria. Lederhosen, dirndls, obscenely expensive plumes for men’s hats. Some is sold to tourists, but there are occasions where the local folks like to dress up like that for dances or festivals that – and here is the key – you are not invited to.

  31. 31.

    TaMara (HFG)

    July 8, 2019 at 11:14 am

    @Jeffro: You know the rule – you don’t have to swim fast, just faster than the person next to you.

  32. 32.

    Amir Khalid

    July 8, 2019 at 11:14 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:
    Tut mir Leid, ich weiß sehr wenig über deutsche Kultur.

  33. 33.

    Frankensteinbeck

    July 8, 2019 at 11:16 am

    @Another Scott:

    But unless the House impeaches him or the voters reject him next year, there’s no actual consequence to his lawlessness.

    This article is good in some ways, but its critique of Pelosi revolves around that one sentence. Most critiques of how Pelosi is handling this revolve around that one sentence. That sentence is bullshit. If the House impeaches Trump and the Senate acquits, there’s no actual consequence to his lawlessness. The Senate will acquit. Period. So stop fucking judging her on the idea that punishing Trump = impeachment. I support impeachment, but I know it won’t change much, so if Pelosi doesn’t leap straight to doing it and takes other considerations into account I’m not going to bitch about it.

  34. 34.

    chris

    July 8, 2019 at 11:18 am

    @trollhattan: “Ski this one, pilgrim.”

  35. 35.

    Tall Tom

    July 8, 2019 at 11:24 am

    No picnic baskets were recovered at the scene.

  36. 36.

    Just One More Canuck

    July 8, 2019 at 11:27 am

    He was looking for the pic-a-nic basket

    ETA – Dammit, Tall Tom beat me to it

  37. 37.

    The Dangerman

    July 8, 2019 at 11:27 am

    @lumpkin:

    They recognize food and drink containers left in cars and will tear up the car to get at them.

    Yup. If it ain’t bearproof, it ain’t shit. Locked or unlocked, a bear can open a car door like we open a can of tuna.

  38. 38.

    rp

    July 8, 2019 at 11:28 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: I think impeachment by the House is a punishment, regardless of the Senate’s actions. Only two Presidents have ever been impeached, so it would be a significant black mark for the public and historically speaking. More importantly, Trump would see it as a significant black mark.

  39. 39.

    Frankensteinbeck

    July 8, 2019 at 11:31 am

    @rp:
    It would make no practical difference, however. It would embarrass him, but not rein him in in any way. So while I support it, it’s not a giant must-do and it pisses me off that people act like Pelosi is refusing to stop Trump. She’s not leaping immediately into a largely symbolic action that would annoy and embarrass him.

  40. 40.

    Gravenstone

    July 8, 2019 at 11:32 am

    My (then) 5 year old nephew did that once at a family gathering. Climbed into his grandparent’s car and managed to disengage the parking brake. Car starts rolling backwards down the driveway towards the road. Fucking Chinese fire drill ensues as we all come swarming out of the house to stop it before it can reach the road, or the ditch beyond. Successfully, but he did get a couple half hearted swats on the backside for his misadventure.

  41. 41.

    otmar

    July 8, 2019 at 11:33 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Dirndl are worn

    * at certain events. For some, Sunday mass is a good enough excuse, parish fairs for sure, traditional weddings, Trachtenbälle (Balls that have traditional dress as dress-code). These are usually the real stuff. Very localized patterns.

    * Oktoberfest knock-offs. These things pop up everywhere these days and people visit them in the most absurd dirndln I have ever seen. Even in Vienna.

    * And they are good to make good money from stupid (but well-off) tourists.

    If a store is selling them in larger quantities, it’s reason 2 or 3.

  42. 42.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 8, 2019 at 11:33 am

    @Gin & Tonic: I guess I think of traditional dress as something performers wear, but obviously this is something ordinary people buy and wear, more often than I would have thought.

  43. 43.

    Another Scott

    July 8, 2019 at 11:38 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: Yup. He went off the rails there.

    Still, the takedown of MoDo was delicious. Not that it matters, of course.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  44. 44.

    MomSense

    July 8, 2019 at 11:40 am

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I have a feeling this is about timing for Pelosi and giving cover to Dems in conservative districts who are going to need more public airing of evidence before they agree to impeachment proceedings.

    I also have a feeling she knows some of what may be coming his way with the Epstein and other cases. Fortunately she is not a wimp and will weather whatever noise she has to. In the meantime, liberals/progressives would be smart to direct their ire at Republicans in the Senate, especially Mitch.

  45. 45.

    Frankensteinbeck

    July 8, 2019 at 11:44 am

    @MomSense:
    My guess is that she’s slow-walking it until next year, so Trump’s crimes can be a major feature of election coverage.

  46. 46.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 8, 2019 at 11:45 am

    @MomSense: liberals/progressives would be smart to direct their ire at Republicans in the Senate, especially Mitch.

    Hear fucking hear, and let it echo throughout the land, o’er hill and dale, from Queens to Telegraph Hill, from the Justice Democrats to the Sunrise Movement, from The Intercept to Jacobin

  47. 47.

    donnah

    July 8, 2019 at 11:45 am

    Just in passing last night I caught part of a news bit on TV where a bear rescue place keeps them safe until they they can be released. And they use them as product testers for inventors who want to create bear and weather-proof containers for camping or garbage cans. There is a time limit given for the product and if it survives the bear test, it’s approved.

    Apparently bears can smell food fifteen miles away and if they smell it, they go for it. The containers they showed in the news were filled with fish parts and pbj sammiches. Yummy for bears, I guess. And the containers took a big beating.

  48. 48.

    scav

    July 8, 2019 at 11:48 am

    @Gin & Tonic: My cousin, when he worked in Germany for a German company, went to at least one business party where everyone wore traditional dress. This was up near Frankfort and I got the impression it was an annual event, not a one-off.

  49. 49.

    SRW1

    July 8, 2019 at 11:49 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Here’s an article (in German) in the regional paper (Stuttgarter Zeitung) from 2015 about the water quality in the Neckar:

    https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.schwimmen-im-neckar-nicht-erlaubt-nicht-verboten.e4476d09-71d8-4001-a2ff-2d8d93fbe31b.html

    The title of the article says that swimming in the river Neckar is not prohibited, but neither is it recommended. Apparently, the river was quite a stinking mess 100 years ago. Even about 1968 it was classed as ‘very heavily polluted’. By 1985 it had been ‘upgraded’ to merely ‘heavily polluted’, by 1988 to ‘critically stressed’, and by 2003 to ‘moderately stressed’. That apparently also is how it stayed until 2015 ( the time of the article). As a consequence, swimming in the river was not recommended, but neither was it prohibited.

    I went to high school (gymnasium) in a small town on the Neckar in the 1970s and I would never have thought of swimming in it.

  50. 50.

    CaseyL

    July 8, 2019 at 11:50 am

    @donnah: I love that! OMG, that sanctuary could make great googobs of money if they filmed the bears testing the containers and then offered it as pay-per-view. I could watch for hours.

    Also – I heard a story some years back that the Park Service in Yellowstone also tests its “bearproof” lockers by letting an old lady grizz have a go at them. She’s apparently famous for breaking into “bearproof” stuff.

  51. 51.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 8, 2019 at 11:50 am

    @otmar: Ah thank you. That clears up a lot.

    And if “dirndln” is the correct plural that confirms my despair at ever getting any real proficiency in German. Particularly the plurals.

  52. 52.

    Elmo

    July 8, 2019 at 11:54 am

    When I lived in the Eastern Sierra, there were a number of bears that would roam the neighboorhood. Our local police dept had a full-time “Bear Control Officer” with two Karelian Bear Dogs.

    One day I went out to my driveway to find my 1987 Jeep Cherokee with three windows broken out and the fiberglass tailgate torn completely in half, as apparently I had overlooked toothpaste that had fallen out of a grocery bag. The toothpaste itself was in one of those hard plastic “pumps,” not a tube, and the pump had toothmarks all over it but was otherwise intact. I told the BCO to look for the bear with the minty-fresh breath.

    The Town gave out stickers for placement on dumpsters, to warn people not to dispose of food trash in them. I got one for my Jeep after that, and made lots of people laugh with the torn-off tailgate above the bumper sticker that read:

    “NOT A BEAR PROOF CONTAINER.”

  53. 53.

    rp

    July 8, 2019 at 11:58 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: I disagree. I think it would have a pretty significant practical impact on him b/c of the media coverage and the public perception. And I think it would accelerate his decline by causing a major melt down, making it impossible for folks to avoid discussing the 25th amendment.

  54. 54.

    Steve in the ATL

    July 8, 2019 at 12:01 pm

    Has anyone posted this article yet? Republicans across the land are having spontaneous orgasms as their union busting fantasies come to life, and middle class shrinks even further:

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-nlrb-eliminates-hurdle-to-employers-kicking-out-unions?inf_contact_key=f52530da8871f0e4905495024cb627ebf651f238aa2edbb9c8b7cff03e0b16a0

    •Ruling eases process for “anticipatory withdrawal” of union recognition
    •Replaces unfair labor practice process with call for new election

    The National Labor Relations Board made it easier for an employer to oust a union after getting evidence that a majority of workers no longer supports that union.

    The NLRB’s Republican majority modified the board’s legal framework for an employer to stop bargaining prior to the expiration of a collective bargaining agreement and announce it will eject the union when that contract ends. Under the board’s July 3 ruling, an employer that makes such an “anticipatory withdrawal” can’t be hit with an unfair labor practice charge challenging whether the union really lacked majority support when the contract ended.

    An employer can announce its pending withdrawal of recognition within 90 days of the expiration of a contract and then withdraw when the pact ends, according to the ruling. A union that wants to reestablish its majority status following an employer’s anticipatory withdrawal then has 45 days to file a petition for a new election.

    #WASF

  55. 55.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 8, 2019 at 12:02 pm

    @Jeffro: Make sure to start each day rubbing your skin with a salmon fillet! ?

  56. 56.

    Sloane Peterson's knee therapist

    July 8, 2019 at 12:02 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: The dept.store’s backlog is probably the result of trump’s Merkel Dirndle tariff.

  57. 57.

    Jeffro

    July 8, 2019 at 12:09 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Oh sure, sounds like great advice there ??

  58. 58.

    Kay

    July 8, 2019 at 12:11 pm

    Pervaiz Shallwani
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    Former veteran SDNY prosecutor @Mimirocah1 on Jeffrey Epstein: “In my 16 years as a prosecutor, I am only aware of two instances in which someone convicted of a crime of this nature was offered a cooperation agreement.”

    I’d like to see the other case. Let’s take bets on whether that person was wealthy and well-connected too.

    We have a corruption problem in the United States. It’s at the root of all the other problems.

    I went to a funeral on Saturday. It was for a 21 year Air Force veteran, a geologist and meteorologist, so not a combat person. His son told a story about how he had taken a pen from his dad’s briefcase to take to school and his dad made him walk back in from the driveway and return the pen because the pen is Air Force property. It’s probably true too- I knew him and he really did have high standards. Something else too- given the absolute (and inappropriate) worship of the Trump Administration of the military. I knew him after he retired from the Air Force and he never once told me he was a veteran. I knew him as a farmer. Other people told me, because I wondered where he spent 20 years after leaving here and then returning to the family farming operation, but he never did.

    We could pick people like that and promote them instead of promoting such bad people. That’s possible. Attainable.

  59. 59.

    sukabi

    July 8, 2019 at 12:15 pm

    @Jeffro: You’ve heard of polar bears haven’t you?

  60. 60.

    jl

    July 8, 2019 at 12:17 pm

    Heard a news clip of Trump babbling that they are going ahead with the printing of census survey forms, and he will ‘probably’ try to get an addendum with a citizenship question added later. Trump sounded like he thought you could print up a bunch of post-it notes and slap them on the census forms, or photocopy a bunch of yellow sips and staple them onto the end. Or, God knows what he is thinking.

    I guess that is good news. Census will get things ready without a poorly designed and bogus citizenship question, and Trump can whine about the dastardly and very unfair Deep State, which is never nice to him, foiling him again to rile up his base for the election.

    Edit: though of course, Trump is likely to say or tweet to opposite tomorrow.

  61. 61.

    oatler.

    July 8, 2019 at 12:19 pm

    “Unedited Footage of a Bear”. Classic bearage!

  62. 62.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 8, 2019 at 12:19 pm

    @Kay: Was your self-effacing friend with high moral standards a Republican or Democrat?

  63. 63.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 8, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    @Jeffro: You’re welcome. No charge.

  64. 64.

    MattF

    July 8, 2019 at 12:21 pm

    Seems that Bill Barr’s father was head of the Dalton School in NYC and gave Jeffrey Epstein his first job, teaching the young’uns there. Yes, that Jeffrey Epstein, and that Bill Barr. Small world, I guess.

  65. 65.

    dmsilev

    July 8, 2019 at 12:22 pm

    @jl: Wait until he finds out that there’s no money in the Census budget for an addendum and that if he wants one he’ll have to ask Nancy Pelosi to allocate the funds…

  66. 66.

    dexwood

    July 8, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    But, Yogi, the ranger won’t like this.
    Fuck the ranger, Boo Boo.

  67. 67.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 8, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    I see that Eric Swalwell is dropping out of the presidential race to run for the House again. That’s a good thing.

  68. 68.

    rikyrah

    July 8, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    @MattF:

    Seems that Bill Barr’s father was head of the Dalton School in NYC and gave Jeffrey Epstein his first job, teaching the young’uns there. Yes, that Jeffrey Epstein, and that Bill Barr. Small world, I guess.

    WITHOUT A COLLEGE DEGREE

  69. 69.

    germy

    July 8, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    "Would it be too much to pray for a day when the Bible gets a 'Book of Trump,' much like it has a 'Book of Esther' celebrating the deliverance of the Jews from ancient Persia?" Miriam Adelson writes an op-ed in the paper she and her husband own: https://t.co/yh1bRTIZ3X
    — McKay Coppins (@mckaycoppins) July 7, 2019

  70. 70.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 8, 2019 at 12:25 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Good!

  71. 71.

    germy

    July 8, 2019 at 12:27 pm

    @MattF:

    Seems that Bill Barr’s father was head of the Dalton School in NYC and gave Jeffrey Epstein his first job, teaching the young’uns there. Yes, that Jeffrey Epstein, and that Bill Barr. Small world, I guess.

    “There are no strangers in the aristocracy of success.”
    – S.J. Perelman

  72. 72.

    dmsilev

    July 8, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Wait, chanting ‘pass the torch’ over and over again wasn’t a sure path to the nomination? Shocking!

  73. 73.

    the Conster

    July 8, 2019 at 12:32 pm

    @rp:

    The media loves Trump. They’re all his buddies, especially Jeff Zucker. It is not 1974 when there were only 3 networks covering the Select Committee hearings, and there is no guarantee that cable news would give up any of their commercial time to even cover it. What is it about the word *impeachment* that will compel the WH to comply with House subpoenas, when they’ve already stonewalled every request? The House would just have to go TO THE SAME COURTS they’ve already asked to back up their Article I oversight demands. Impeachment hearings without evidence or testimony is going to be exactly what?

  74. 74.

    Barbara

    July 8, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    @jl: I think the judge was kind to the government attorneys. I would have told them that “tweets” don’t count. They can either use the process for reopening and file a brief — like, by Friday before the holiday weekend — to state the government’s actual legal position or stand on their prior representations.

  75. 75.

    MattF

    July 8, 2019 at 12:35 pm

    @germy: Dear Leader thinks he’s great:

    “He’s a lot of fun to be with,” Mr. Trump told New York Magazine. “It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

  76. 76.

    rikyrah

    July 8, 2019 at 12:36 pm

    SDNY indictment against Jeffrey Epstein charges him with enticing children to engage in sex acts at his NYC mansion and also uses conspiracy count to charge similar conduct occurring in Florida. Strategic move to bypass the Acosta non-prosecution agreement.

    — Barb McQuade (@BarbMcQuade) July 8, 2019

  77. 77.

    Barbara

    July 8, 2019 at 12:36 pm

    @the Conster: The degree to which people believe against all evidence that Nancy Pelosi (or Barack Obama for that matter) has magical powers, while at the same time excusing others from carrying out their plans is evidence of something.

  78. 78.

    otmar

    July 8, 2019 at 12:37 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Yes, it’s “ein Dirndl” and “zwei Dirndln”.

    Additional German smart-assery:

    The same word can also mean “girl” in the Bavarian/Austrian Dialect.

    The word derives from “Dirn”, a very old word for women. The “-dl” is a diminutive affix (similar to -chen, -lein or -rl).

  79. 79.

    Plato

    July 8, 2019 at 12:37 pm

    Inbox: Julián Castro has announced that, as of this morning, his campaign has received donations from 130,000 unique donors, a key qualification for the September and October Democratic Primary debates.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 8, 2019

  80. 80.

    Kay

    July 8, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I don’t know. I suppose I could look it up. If he votes in a primary in Ohio he has to declare. His wife is an (active) Democrat, which is unusual around here, although she’s a moderate. She’s one of those “why can’t they ever get anything DONE?” people- she’s very practical. I haven’t asked her yet, although we talk about politics, but I would bet she’s a Biden gal. I know she doesn’t like Bernie, from 2016.

  81. 81.

    germy

    July 8, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    @MattF: Conservatives are making a big thing out of trump ordering him out of one of his resorts because he made a pass at the daughter of one of trump’s guests.

    There are certain rules, apparently. One of them is to restrict his victims to young women who lack important parents.

  82. 82.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 8, 2019 at 12:40 pm

    @MattF: It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do,

    sounds like a sad year book signature from your sophomore year of high school: “Dude, I can’t believe Miss Crabtee’s seating chart put me next to somebody as rad as I am!”

  83. 83.

    Kay

    July 8, 2019 at 12:43 pm

    @MattF:

    That quote makes my skin crawl. I don’t know- maybe I’m too conventional. This person and his gross associates and low quality hires should not have such powerful positions. They’re ordinary thugs. If they hadn’t inherited wealth they would all be in and out of prison. Career criminals. Maybe some accountability when they were younger would have stuck and we wouldn’t have this situation where we have people who should have entered the justice system in their 20’s and come out the other side just now running into accountability at 50, 60, 70 years old. It’s too late.

  84. 84.

    the Conster

    July 8, 2019 at 12:47 pm

    @Barbara:

    Every criticism of Nancy Pelosi puts a lipless grin on Mitch McConnell’s chinless face.

    And the irony, lost on all the IMPEACH NOW screamers, is that Pelosi is preserving the rule of law by demanding that the courts uphold the House’s Article I powers WITHOUT calling oversight requests *impeachment*, because if the courts won’t affirm House subpoenas as part of their Article I oversight duties, then the executive branch will NEVER comply with them again. What a horrible precedent to set, and it means we’ve already lost.

  85. 85.

    Kay

    July 8, 2019 at 12:48 pm

    @germy:

    That’s the key difference. The social status of the victims. Some girls get legal and other protections from predators and some do not. Just Us rather than justice.

  86. 86.

    rikyrah

    July 8, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    Why is it so hard for people in the press to spell it out.
    PEDOPHILIA
    CHILD PORNOGRAPHY

    THIS is what this man peddled in.

    Don’t dance around it. Say it with your chest.

  87. 87.

    SFAW

    July 8, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    @scav:

    This was up near Frankfort and I got the impression it was an annual event, not a one-off.

    Did Traitor Turtle attend? I always figured him to be more partial to Russia, than to German festivals, but …

  88. 88.

    Amir Khalid

    July 8, 2019 at 12:52 pm

    @otmar:
    Since you’re here, I have a question. I’ve always wondered: is Mädel a diminutive of some other word? And why are so many common words for a female person — Mädchen, Weib, and so on — neuter nouns?

  89. 89.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 8, 2019 at 12:52 pm

    Credit where it’s due, Eric Swalwell made a funny.

    (or one of his staffers did)

    and the Berniebots are predictably outraged at Dave Weigel.

  90. 90.

    SFAW

    July 8, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    @germy:

    Conservatives are making a big thing out of trump ordering him out of one of his resorts because he made a pass at the daughter of one of trump’s guests.

    Was that reported by Jacob Wohl, perchance? Because I have a tough time believing the Pedophile-in-Chief would ever order a “brother” out of any of his properties.

  91. 91.

    Kay

    July 8, 2019 at 12:56 pm

    James Fallows
    ‏Verified account
    @JamesFallows
    Follow Follow @JamesFallows
    More
    Replying to @David_Leheny @davidfolkenflik @jkbjournalist
    Also relevant: Dershowitz’s public letter to Pulitzer committee, urging them *not* to reward the Miami Herald and Julie Brown for their work on the Epstein case.

    Still associated with Harvard, still making big bucks, still makes appearances as an expert.

    Seriously. Why do out elites have such low fucking standards? You have to poison a whole city and even then, they’ll hire you unless there’s public outcry!

  92. 92.

    Barbara

    July 8, 2019 at 12:56 pm

    @the Conster: Right, it’s the equivalent of using the debt ceiling as a budget policy cudgel. It’s untenable for any normal order of governmental oversight of the executive branch.

  93. 93.

    Timurid

    July 8, 2019 at 12:57 pm

    @rikyrah:

    It looks like SDNY is hoisting the Jolly Roger.
    I wonder how Barr will respond to this…

  94. 94.

    Mo

    July 8, 2019 at 1:00 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: I see people have answered, but the answer is that Germans break out their dirndls for formal events. I worked at an Ivy, where fancy parties are “black tie or national costume.” I had a German friend who was on the list for some those and always broke out her very fancy dirndl from home. She said it saved her money, it was a gift from her grandmother, and she could just wear the same thing to every party. Also, the chit chat small talk about dirndls was vastly preferable to the usual boring chit chat and meant she got to talk to interesting people who wouldn’t have introduced themselves to her otherwise. It also meant she met every German person at the parties, in case she ever moved back.

  95. 95.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 8, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    @germy: Conservatives are making a big thing out of trump ordering him out of one of his resorts because he made a pass at the daughter of one of trump’s guests.

    Was trump’s guest a lady with an accent named Ivana?

  96. 96.

    the Conster

    July 8, 2019 at 1:07 pm

    @Barbara:

    Exactly. Mitch McConnell and the GOP have broken the Constitution that the impeach now screamers demand to be upheld by only 1/2 of 1/3 of the government, when the only way to get it back is to vote them all out in 2020. If I were Pelosi, I’d just keep drip drip dripping information that comes out of the Committee investigations, and hope that this Epstein ugliness gets smeared all over every GOPer. All of his properties were surveilled, and there’s a server somewhere containing all the dirt that will explain A LOT about why they all rolled over for Trump.

  97. 97.

    Doug R

    July 8, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    @SFAW:

    Somehow, “Colorado bear” does not roll as trippingly off the tongue/keyboard as “Florida/Floriduh man,” but outside of that …

    PS: Which raises the question: do we know for certain that the “bear” wasn’t actually some guy from Floriduh in a bear costume?

    Those Colorado bears are clever
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13UcsAr0quc

  98. 98.

    trollhattan

    July 8, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    @chris:
    10 Quatloos for the “Jeremiah Johnson” ref.

  99. 99.

    Elmo

    July 8, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: Thanks Steve. Directly relevant to my own professional work as well as yours.

  100. 100.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    July 8, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    Bears need a field goal kicker

  101. 101.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    July 8, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    There is a Bear in the woods. For some people the Bear is easy to see. Others don’t see it at all.

  102. 102.

    Aleta

    July 8, 2019 at 1:17 pm

    From the thread @rikyrah: pointed out:
    @BarbMcQuade lanswered a few questions

    Not That Michael Cohen @mdcohen
    Can you explain how it bypasses the federal agreement and how it isn’t double jeopardy?

    Barb McQuade
    ‏Charge is conspiracy, which is different from substantive offense for double jeopardy purposes. Also, he was never charged. SDFL promised not to charge, but it cannot bind other districts.

    GallopingGoatGang @GallopingGang
    Indictment seeks forfeiture of his townhouse at 9 E 71st but not Palm Beach residence. That must be because of jurisdiction?

    Barb McQuade @BarbMcQuade
    Yes, but it also includes substitute assets, so that if he sells his mansion, feds get the money upon conviction.

    Sue Parmet @SueParmet
    Enticing?

    Barb McQuade @BarbMcQuade
    “Enticing” is the word used in the statute. The allegations are that he lured his victims to his home with money.

  103. 103.

    Death Panel Truck

    July 8, 2019 at 1:28 pm

    “I swear to God, Officer, it was a bear! No, I’m not drunk!”

  104. 104.

    otmar

    July 8, 2019 at 1:32 pm

    @Amir Khalid: According to the Duden, Mädel is a diminutive of Magt.

  105. 105.

    joel hanes

    July 8, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    Black bears around Yosemite’s Tuolomne Meadows trailhead have long ago learned to push their claws through the rubber window seal gasket and pop the side window out of the door, rendering locks ineffective.
    They’ve also learned that they can rip their way through the back-seat upholstery to get to foods locked in the trunk.

    Photos of the aftermath are prominently posted at the trailhead ranger station.

  106. 106.

    Michael Allen

    July 8, 2019 at 2:00 pm

    @lumpkin: Replying to a bear related post about a hundred feet away up above:

    My friends left a cooler chest on the floor in the back seat of their car. A bear bent the back door window frame out, breaking the window, but didn’t get in. I guess it couldn’t figure out the door lock.

    Meanwhile, that bear trashed car is a Subaru Impreza about twenty years old, or possibly a Saabaru from then. So really, no great loss.

  107. 107.

    J R in WV

    July 8, 2019 at 2:28 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    @MomSense:
    My guess is that she’s slow-walking it until next year, so Trump’s crimes can be a major feature of election coverage.

    I agree. I think the impeachment vote in the House should be in very late October, as in hours before the election, which IIRC is November 2nd. So a House vote on Halloween might be the plan.

    I’ve said this many times before: Not wanting a vote on Impeachment NOW is not the same thing as not wanting a vote on Impeachment EVER. Far from it.

    Pelosi is a master of timing, and here that is a critical element of the strategy she is trying to implement.

  108. 108.

    Origuy

    July 8, 2019 at 2:32 pm

    I think Dirndln are like kilts in Scotland. Most men have them and wear them at weddings and ceilidhs; you don’t see them often on the street. Some men wear the kilt regularly, especially upper-class men with titles.

  109. 109.

    oatler.

    July 8, 2019 at 3:02 pm

    @Origuy: Lord Summerisle wore one in 1973.

  110. 110.

    StringOnAStick

    July 8, 2019 at 4:19 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Those are costumes for Oktoberfest, people definitely dress the part and it’s not disposable wear, they put some money into it.

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