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You are here: Home / Yes of Course the Fucking President is Racist

Yes of Course the Fucking President is Racist

by John Cole|  July 15, 20192:21 pm| 130 Comments

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Why are we still discussing and debating this three fucking years later? It’s who he is. It’s who a large group of the Republicans are. And those that aren’t are ok with it as long as jesus takes the wheel in the Supreme Court and the tax cuts keep flowing.

Fucking bloody hell, you assholes.

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  1. 1.

    zhena gogolia

    July 15, 2019 at 2:22 pm

    No discussion here.

  2. 2.

    Major Major Major Major

    July 15, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    Meanwhile, I got a CNN alert headline reading “Trump defends his racist attacks.”

  3. 3.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 15, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    the press was always too chicken-shit to call out birtherism as racist

    remember when St Willard The Silent said that “no one has ever asked to see my birth certificate! ha ha ha”.

    And at least one of the Mittlets went birther, and college transcript-er.

  4. 4.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 15, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    Manu Raju @ mkraju
    Trump, asked if he has concerns that he’s using the language of white supremacists and many view his tweets as racist, says: “It doesn’t concern me because many people agree with me.”

    @Major Major Major Major: credit where due, and I am not a huge fan (if he called out the racism on his ‘sister network’ during the Obama years, I never heard it)

    Jake Tapper @ jaketapper
    Trump denies racist tweets were racist

  5. 5.

    Major Major Major Major

    July 15, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    .@MittRomney on Trump calling for 4 congresswoman to go back to their countries of origin? “I certainly feel a number of these new members of Congress have views that are not consistent with my experience and not consistent with building a strong America.” More @NBC10Boston 5pm pic.twitter.com/3tZ4DtCuvW

    — Alison King NBC10 Boston (@AlisonNBCBoston) July 15, 2019

  6. 6.

    Citizen Alan

    July 15, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    George Romney would be so utterly humiliated by the sort of creature his son has grown up to be.

  7. 7.

    Martin

    July 15, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Manu Raju @ mkraju
    Trump, asked if he has concerns that he’s using the language of white supremacists and many view his tweets as racist, says: “It doesn’t concern me because many people agree with me.”

    Headline should be: “Trump suggests his supporters are racists.”

  8. 8.

    PhoenixRising

    July 15, 2019 at 2:32 pm

    Let me offer a simple test of whether remarks are racist: Did you tell Americans of color to go back where they came from? You did a racist.

    The larger issue of racist attacks on the citizenship of people of color being Donald Trump’s sole political view predating his run for office also leaves little to the imagination.

  9. 9.

    matt

    July 15, 2019 at 2:34 pm

    I’m looking forward to the media flipping to ‘it’s not news, everyone knows it’

  10. 10.

    williamC

    July 15, 2019 at 2:35 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:
    That’s funny…Senator Romney has “views that are not consistent with my experience” as a black person suffering through this racist nonsense. Sen. Romney is a Republican, ergo he has to prove to me he’s not a racist, too. Meanwhile, what’s going on with all that Epstein/child-rape situation that the President might be caught up in? Reporters should ask the Senator what he thinks about Epstein’s co-conspirators while you’re asking him if racism is racist.

  11. 11.

    the Conster

    July 15, 2019 at 2:35 pm

    ” I do not believe that most of the people who are thinking about voting for Mr. Trump are racist or sexist.” – Bernie Sanders 5 Nov 2016

    Fuck you Bernie. You “Democrats need to do more coddling of the racists” go in the basket of deplorables with the rest of them.

  12. 12.

    Mayur V Subbarao

    July 15, 2019 at 2:35 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    “What are they?”

    “They were once men, great conservative cash-grabbing plutocrats of men. Then Donald Trump gave them his endorsement to run for Senate. Blinded by their opportunism, they accepted, falling one by one into darkness. They are the virargul, Dignity Wraiths.”

  13. 13.

    Juju

    July 15, 2019 at 2:37 pm

    What you said.

  14. 14.

    MattF

    July 15, 2019 at 2:38 pm

    Ask all the Republicans. It’s a good test. OTOH, we all already know the answer.

  15. 15.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 15, 2019 at 2:39 pm

    Weren’t many signers of the Declaration of Independence not born in the USA. I was born in India and became a naturalized citizen two years ago. I bet I know more about the United States than the man in WH.

  16. 16.

    Ella in New Mexico

    July 15, 2019 at 2:40 pm

    Why everyone doesn’t see IMMEDIATELY that this and his other angry, racist outbursts only serve two purposes:

    1. to distract/change the subject/prevent people from hearing about something really bad that going to come out: Latest Exhibit A: ALL THINGS JEFFERY EPSTEIN.
    2. as campaign talking points/propaganda to be repeated and reinforced for 2020. Exhibit A: Lindsey Graham’s almost verbatim regurge this morning on Faux Outrage and Friends.

  17. 17.

    PhoenixRising

    July 15, 2019 at 2:40 pm

    @williamC: What I’d love for someone to ask Mitt: Imagine that someone in your party attacked your grandson on the basis that as a person of mixed race, he should prove his citizenship or go back where he came from. Would you support that person as the leader of your party? If not, why is this different?

  18. 18.

    PhoenixRising

    July 15, 2019 at 2:42 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico: We do see that. We are allowed to be enraged by more than one thing at once. And here’s a handy tip: at any time, racist attacks on the citizenship of Americans of color should be condemned. By everyone who believes in America’s promise. Regardless of what else is happening.

  19. 19.

    Droppy

    July 15, 2019 at 2:43 pm

    The obvious racism is not shocking (since it has always been obvious.) I am just so depressed by the idea that 40-something percent of the people in my country can look at and listen to Donald Trump and APPROVE of him, and that the rate of that approval has not gone down even a little. I don’t want to live some place where there are that many stupid and/or selfish people. What is their problem?

  20. 20.

    TenguPhule

    July 15, 2019 at 2:43 pm

    Why are we still discussing and debating this three fucking years later?

    CNN/FTFNYT/Every other media center: “Money, dear boy!”

  21. 21.

    Kay

    July 15, 2019 at 2:44 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    the press was always too chicken-shit to call out birtherism as racist

    Agreed. Remember- we had birther billboards.

    It’s funny the people who got it immediately, because it wasn’t necessarily “political” people. Jerry Seinfeld got it. He was immediately appalled and ID’d it as racist. I felt like it was a flashing neon sign and a REALLY bad sign of things to come.

  22. 22.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 15, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    @PhoenixRising: Thanks. I think this distraction theory is bullshit. Orange Man thrives on chaos and creates it wherever he goes. Its who is not some well thought out diabolical plan. Lashing out impulsively is not a strategy.

  23. 23.

    TenguPhule

    July 15, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Meanwhile, I got a CNN alert headline reading “Trump defends his racist attacks.”

    In any other timeline with a decent executive, this would be a headline about an actual attack on racists.

  24. 24.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 15, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Just amazing that those shoulders you can land a 747 on (Roger Simon of Politico, if memory serves) don’t collapse, being unconnected to any spine.

    Daniel Daleb @ ddale8
    Trump on his racist tweets so far:
    – “Didn’t mention names”
    – Omar and others “hate our country”
    – “A lot of people love” his tweets
    – “If you’re not happy here, then you can leave”
    – Pelosi made a “very racist statement” by saying Trump wants to make America white again

    Aaron Rupar @ atrupar
    Trump accuses Ilhan Omar of “speaking about how wonderful Al Qaeda is.” Says she “hates Jews.”

  25. 25.

    Archon

    July 15, 2019 at 2:46 pm

    If you still support Trump then racist tweets like this against Congresswomen are a feature not a bug.

  26. 26.

    JaySinWA

    July 15, 2019 at 2:46 pm

    @MattF: There are a hand full that have disagreed with Trumps tweets. Not many, and definitely not enough. The answers or evasions might be telling.

  27. 27.

    TenguPhule

    July 15, 2019 at 2:47 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I bet I know more about the United States than the man in WH.

    You couldn’t set a lower bar for yourself.

  28. 28.

    TenguPhule

    July 15, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    @Droppy:

    I don’t want to live some place where there are that many stupid and/or selfish people. What is their problem?

    Sherman let their ancestors escape before setting their homes on fire.

    They’ve held a grudge since then. //

  29. 29.

    jl

    July 15, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    @PhoenixRising: I agree. And these racist outrages need to be attacked and discussed vigorously. Most voters will recoil and recognize the danger it poses to our society. Even if the Trumpsters mean it as a distraction, it is a distraction that can destroy them. And the deranged hate of the Grahams, and the contemptible cowardice of the Mitt Romney’s will impress on people’s minds that the GOP is fully behind the hate or complicit in it.

    Edit: I think Josh Marshall has counted one (1) GOPer in national office who has called it out. The rest are going along, doubling down or making excuses.

  30. 30.

    germy

    July 15, 2019 at 2:50 pm

    Trump Supporters Worried Racist Attacks Against Progressive Democrats Just Talk

    (Onion headline)

  31. 31.

    Kay

    July 15, 2019 at 2:50 pm

    Here’s your monthly reminder that the First Lady is also a birther and promoted this racist conspiracy theory along with her husband.

    Both the President and the First Lady did this. Crazy, I know because the First Lady is of course an immigrant who promised to provide documents showing that she entered and remained in the US legally, but never provided those documents. No one has seen the whole record outside of the First Lady and her lawyer.

  32. 32.

    Just One More Canuck

    July 15, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: so a seventy-two year old white man born rich and privileged doesn’t have the same experience as four women of colour at least a generation younger? You cant learn that kind of cluelessness. That’s bred in the bone

  33. 33.

    PhoenixRising

    July 15, 2019 at 2:52 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    In any other timeline with a decent executive, this would be a headline about an actual attack on racists.

    from your mouth to Kamala Harris’ ears, dude

  34. 34.

    Aleta

    July 15, 2019 at 2:52 pm

    In every current story about this, reporters need to cover why his lifelong racism was not exposed by the press in 2015-2016.

  35. 35.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 15, 2019 at 2:53 pm

    @TenguPhule: Well I can never become the President while he sits in the WH. Its the Constitution has set the bar low not me. The standards demanded of immigrants are far higher than those demanded of those in the T cabinet.

  36. 36.

    Major Major Major Major

    July 15, 2019 at 2:53 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I think this distraction theory is bullshit.

    Agreed. You can point to literally any of the ten+ heinous things he and his administration do before breakfast and claim they’re a distraction from the other nine+, when in reality he’s just constantly doing heinous things for their own sake.

  37. 37.

    Ella in New Mexico

    July 15, 2019 at 2:54 pm

    @PhoenixRising: @PhoenixRising:

    And here’s a handy tip: at any time, racist attacks on the citizenship of Americans of color should be condemned. By everyone who believes in America’s promise. Regardless of what else is happening.

    Hey there–no one’s saying the opposite. I’m referring to the way he’s able to keep a huge majority of the people and the media following the dancing laser light on the wall instead of seeing what’s going on in entire room and putting out the fire.

    Or getting people on the same side to start accusing each other of shit…

    I just want to see his obvious tactics called out equally as loud as he and his Party’s vile beliefs

  38. 38.

    MattF

    July 15, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    @Kay: Ah, Slovenia, shithole of the Balkans.

  39. 39.

    rikyrah

    July 15, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    BREAKING: Judge sentences James Alex Fields, Jr to life in prison plus 419 years for murder of Heather Heyer and malicious wounding of others in Charlottesville. pic.twitter.com/MhukHRWPfd

    — Neal Augenstein (@AugensteinWTOP) July 15, 2019

  40. 40.

    waspuppet

    July 15, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    Why are we still discussing and debating this three fucking years later?

    Four.

    And yeah — if this were anyone else telling nonwhite women to go back where they came from, anyone would say “Eesh that guy’s a racist.” But elevate this game-show host to the presidency and suddenly it’s all so complicated.

    And yeah — he doesn’t come up with cunning plans to distract people. He feels bad so he does something to feel not-bad. That’s it. That’s all there is.

  41. 41.

    Brachiator

    July 15, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    [email protected] on Trump calling for 4 congresswoman to go back to their countries of origin? “I certainly feel a number of these new members of Congress have views that are not consistent with my experience and not consistent with building a strong America.” More @NBC10Boston 5pm

    Mittens should go back to Mexico, where his father was born.

  42. 42.

    seaninclt

    July 15, 2019 at 2:58 pm

    eh fuck it all… I’m so tired of watching these fucking assholes get away with whatever the fuck they want to do and Democrats sit around in a big circle jerk. The fact Democratic Leadership hasn’t figured out how to message off this motherfucker is insane. I’m in NC-09 and the fact that the Republicans can run ANYONE AT ALL in this district after being caught red-handed cheating and be LEADING at this point in the race shows who truly awful this party is at retail politics. I fucking give up…gbcw

  43. 43.

    rikyrah

    July 15, 2019 at 2:58 pm

    Ariana Tobin (@Ariana_Tobin) Tweeted:
    “There is this idea that most blacks were lynched because they did something untoward to a young woman. That’s not true. Most black men were lynched between 1890 and 1920 because whites wanted their land.” https://t.co/Nl96RPcN5B https://twitter.com/Ariana_Tobin/status/1150768528120852481?s=17

  44. 44.

    Capri

    July 15, 2019 at 2:58 pm

    News shows are spending all their time talking about how the tweets are a distraction. Some self-awareness would be nice.

  45. 45.

    Roger Moore

    July 15, 2019 at 2:58 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Weren’t many signers of the Declaration of Independence not born in the USA.

    Technically, none of the signers were born in the USA because it didn’t exist when they were born. /pedant

    Apart from that technicality, though, the vast majority of the signers were born in America. A quick check online says 48 of the 56 signers were born in America, with 2 each from England, Scotland, and Ireland and 1 each from Wales and Northern Ireland.

  46. 46.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 15, 2019 at 2:58 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Yup, if the Epstein case is the place where he finally left some fingerprints, this won’t change it. And if he didn’t Susan Collins and Mitt Romney will keep believing they can weather this and come out on the other side.

  47. 47.

    rikyrah

    July 15, 2019 at 2:59 pm

    FedUp_Mom (@Fedup_Mom) Tweeted:
    @ladyc10 @3ChicsPolitico I have my issues w/Pelosi but she can see McConnel’s master plan better than “the squad” who speak to the choir & won’t STFU for a sec to understand we’re hanging on by a thread. Not only is no fantasy liberal leg going to be passed he’s packing the courts to strike down the ACA! https://twitter.com/Fedup_Mom/status/1150828948739284992?s=17

  48. 48.

    zhena gogolia

    July 15, 2019 at 2:59 pm

    @PhoenixRising:

    Thank you.

  49. 49.

    jl

    July 15, 2019 at 3:00 pm

    Yeebus, some of them are talking like this is just the beginning of a brilliant new political tactic. Your House Minority Leader, your GOP

    @AlexABCNews
    House Minority Leader Scalise on Trump tweets that the 4 Dem members should go back to where they came from: “we’re gunna talk about it more”
    https://twitter.com/AlexNBCNews/status/1150825992962945024

    If they want to talk about, we have to talk about it too. And call it what it is: dangerous butt ignorant race hatred, incitement to violence and oppression, vile and unAmerican. fascism.

    And if they think this is a good way to go, their internal polling must look catastrophic, so they have to rile up the basest of their base.
    These people are a danger to the country and need to be confronted. They want to talk about it more, we need to talk about them more and what they really are.

  50. 50.

    zhena gogolia

    July 15, 2019 at 3:00 pm

    @Droppy:

    It’s all the economy. They think the economy is in good shape so they ignore everything else. As soon as the crash happens, they’ll suddenly wake up. See G. W. Bush 2008.

  51. 51.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 15, 2019 at 3:00 pm

    @Roger Moore: I bet no one told those 8 to go back where they came from.

  52. 52.

    Ella in New Mexico

    July 15, 2019 at 3:02 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I think this distraction theory is bullshit.

    Agreed. You can point to literally any of the ten+ heinous things he and his administration do before breakfast and claim they’re a distraction from the other nine+, when in reality he’s just constantly doing heinous things for their own sake.

    Maybe so, but how easily we all forget he’s been dodging and diverting from multiple heinous back-stories coming out since he was elected so now this is just what he has to do to avoid what any other President would have found career ending–and it clearly works like a charm so why quit? Plus, he doesn’t really have to come up with new material or change things up–he just has to keep reinacting cuts from his rallies once a week.

    Call it for what it is–and call that out too.

  53. 53.

    TenguPhule

    July 15, 2019 at 3:03 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Mittens should go back to Mexico, where his father was born.

    Let’s be fair, Mexico doesn’t want him and it would be cruel to punish an innocent country that way.

  54. 54.

    Brachiator

    July 15, 2019 at 3:05 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I think this distraction theory is bullshit. Orange Man thrives on chaos and creates it wherever he goes. Its who is not some well thought out diabolical plan.

    Yep. Totally agree with you. Trump is not a master tactician. He is not a great thinker. In fact, he probably doesn’t think much at all.

  55. 55.

    FlyingToaster

    July 15, 2019 at 3:06 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I bet I know more about the United States than the man in WH.

    Very few native-born Americans remember their high school government and American history classes, which I’ll note are a requirement for a HS diploma absolutely everywhere.

    All of this stuff — structure of government, balance of powers, bill of rights, taxation, what-have-you — is a standard curriculum. But it’s not part of the high-stakes-testing regimen currently in vogue. Some kids seem to absorb the info (I’m looking at the Parkland survivor activists), while with others it seems to be in-one-ear and right-out-the-other. And if they don’t bother to retain it from high school, they never seem to learn it later.

    Trump is utterly typical.

  56. 56.

    TenguPhule

    July 15, 2019 at 3:06 pm

    And not content with fucking up the USA, the holy ballers now turn their sights overseas.

    US campaigners who oppose the birth control pill have promoted a menstruation tracking app in “the most vulnerable communities” in rural Nigeria with the backing of the Catholic church, the Guardian has learned.

    Prominent anti-abortion campaigners in New York developed and funded the Femm app, which collects intimate information about women’s sex lives and sows doubt about hormonal birth control methods.

    The app has been downloaded more than 400,000 times globally, according to its developers, and appears to be the first ideologically aligned fertility tracking app.

    But leaders of the organization are also promoting the app and teaching the “Femm methods” of natural family planning in places such as rural Nigeria, where women are at high risk of HIV infection, child marriage and sexual violence.

    The Catholic church’s diplomatic arm, the permanent observer mission of the Holy See at the United Nations, has promoted the Femm foundation and its app in speeches and events at the UN headquarters in New York. Femm also received a $100,000 grant from the Papal Foundation.

    Fucking Assholes.

  57. 57.

    the Conster

    July 15, 2019 at 3:07 pm

    @seaninclt:

    WTF? All of Dem leadership have denounced Trump. Your gripe IS WITH WHITE PEOPLE.

  58. 58.

    PhoenixRising

    July 15, 2019 at 3:07 pm

    @jl:

    if they think this is a good way to go, their internal polling must look catastrophic, so they have to rile up the basest of their base.

    Exactly. We can win a fight about what this country is, if we engage them where they are currently taking up a position: naked white nationalism. I relish the fight. Burn the GOP to the ground. This is an opportunity.

  59. 59.

    TenguPhule

    July 15, 2019 at 3:09 pm

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has announced a resolution condemning Donald Trump for his racist tweets (which some loyalists have insisted are NOT racist…).

    Democrats are drafting the resolution today.

    “This weekend, the president went beyond his own low standards using disgraceful language about Members of Congress,” Pelosi wrote in a letter to House Democrats announcing the party’s plans, Politico reports.

    It’s unclear when the House will be called to vote on this, following an avalanche of attacks by Trump on freshman congress members Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley and Ilhan Omar.

    Talk about weak goddamn tea. The House might as well hold a never ending daily vote on resolutions to condemn Trumps’ X of the day/hour.

  60. 60.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 15, 2019 at 3:10 pm

    @seaninclt: The fact Democratic Leadership hasn’t figured out how to message off this motherfucker is insane

    How do you successfully ‘message’ the fact that the president is a racist to racists? especially when a good chunk of liberal twitter spent the last twenty-four hours saying that trump learned to be a racist from Nancy Pelosi, The Real Enemy.

  61. 61.

    Aleta

    July 15, 2019 at 3:10 pm

    I recommend this article; especially if you read it all the way through to the damage done by the Portland Press Herald and its reporter. An incident became a story no one needed…and one that harms me
    (At the site Black Girl in Maine)

  62. 62.

    Ella in New Mexico

    July 15, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Trump is not a master tactician. He is not a great thinker. In fact, he probably doesn’t think much at all.

    I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that due to his lack of character and his mental illness he is very likely being manipulated by people who are actually accomplishing major crimes in the background to say and do this shit because it serves THEIR interests and just happens to coincide with his need to feel important.

  63. 63.

    the Conster

    July 15, 2019 at 3:14 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    It’s all that BULLY PULPIT crap they love to blame Dems for not using, while it’s now year 3 of the NYT pretending the words *racist* or *lie* don’t exist.

  64. 64.

    Ella in New Mexico

    July 15, 2019 at 3:15 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Talk about weak goddamn tea.

    And yet I saw at least 10 major Twitterheads demanding she do just this. So now she can be called “weak tea” Nancy by those of us who want him held accountable in an Impeachment.

    No distraction. No conspiracy to divide and conquer to see here. Just move along.

  65. 65.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 15, 2019 at 3:15 pm

    @FlyingToaster: FWIW I think T knows less than an average high school student. And I am pretty sure other Presidents even R Presidents were not as ignorant of government and history of the United States as the current officeholder is.

  66. 66.

    the Conster

    July 15, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    Last I checked there are 81 votes for impeachment, 137 to go. How does a failed impeachment hold him accountable?

  67. 67.

    seaninclt

    July 15, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    @the Conster: yay. A strongly worded condemnation. How bout a fuckin’ impeachment inquiry before he gets someone else killed…

  68. 68.

    Betty Cracker

    July 15, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico: I was listening to the Pod Save the World podcast on a road trip this weekend, and the hosts interviewed Ece Temelkuran, a Turkish journalist who wrote “How to Lose a Country: The 7 Steps from Democracy to Dictatorship.” It was an interesting segment, and I will probably post something about it later. But anyhoo, one of the steps she outlined has bearing on the “distraction strategy vs. impulsive outburst” question.

    Temelkuran notes that strongmen or wannabes — Erdoğan, Trump, Duterte, etc. — say outrageous shit all the time that keeps opponents off balance. I don’t know if it even matters if it’s a proactive strategy or if it’s just the nature of the person making the statements, but the effect is that opponents find it difficult to effectively counter a fire hose stream of outrageous shit.

  69. 69.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 15, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico: so you think that if we weren’t talking about trump’s racism Conor Lamb and Abigail Spanberger would be calling for impeachment?

  70. 70.

    Eolirin

    July 15, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    @seaninclt: How would an impeachment inquiry that’s not going to result in his removal prevent him from getting someone else killed?

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    the Conster

    July 15, 2019 at 3:21 pm

    @seaninclt:

    Please explain how that stops him?

  72. 72.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 15, 2019 at 3:26 pm

    @the Conster: Politics is performance art for Justice Dems and their followers. The show is the thing, everything.

  73. 73.

    zhena gogolia

    July 15, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    No conspiracy to divide and conquer to see here. Just move along.

    I’m with you on this. I’m pretty sure Russia is pumping up this anti-Pelosi stuff.

  74. 74.

    Brachiator

    July 15, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    Trump is not a master tactician. He is not a great thinker. In fact, he probably doesn’t think much at all.

    I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that due to his lack of character and his mental illness he is very likely being manipulated by people who are actually accomplishing major crimes in the background to say and do this shit because it serves THEIR interests and just happens to coincide with his need to feel important.

    I am with you with respect to Trump’s lack of character, but the rest does not work for me. Trump has always been a stone ass racist. His daddy raised him that way.

    And I certainly can’t buy the idea that someone as stubborn as Trump is having his strings pulled by subordinates. Especially not with the way that he fires people who fail to kiss his ass.

    Mentally ill. Maybe, but not enough to be incompetent. Otherwise, the reporters who suck up to him are sitting on the ultimate news scoop.

    I’m not sure why some people are unwilling to hold Trump responsible for his despicable actions.

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    seaninclt

    July 15, 2019 at 3:28 pm

    Impeachment Inquiry is the first step. It organizes the flow of information about his crimes. At the same time, while you are running that dog and pony show, you are running ads in every single red and purple state saying “Hi. This is Donald. Donald cheats on his wife with a porn star. He launders Russian Mob money. He pals around with pedophiles. He gives national security secrets to the Russians. He has been accused of rape more than a few times. He is a racist who doesn’t like people of color. He has a problem with any woman that speakers her mind or won’t let him grope her. This is Donald. Donald is an Asshole. Don’t Vote for Donald.”

    You run it every single day, every week, everywhere until the message sinks in.

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    Major Major Major Major

    July 15, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    Call it for what it is

    I do—the most chaotic and scandal-ridden presidency in history. No reason to assume he’s competent enough to conceive of, let alone not fuck up, a distraction strategy.

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    Gretchen

    July 15, 2019 at 3:33 pm

    I had to have it pointed out to me that Pence’s visit to the border was very Southern Strategy. Rather than showing women and children, they showed scary brown adult men and kept saying that most of them had been arrested multiple times. Eliding over the fact that the arrests were for illegal entry once they closed the border. Just like they used to claim black men were going to assault their pure white women, that’s the implication of what would happen if they let these guys loose in the country.

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    Eolirin

    July 15, 2019 at 3:35 pm

    @seaninclt: That would cost billions and billions of dollars and still wouldn’t change things prior to the election. You gonna front that?

    Nevermind that all the political science research on the effectiveness of political advertisements suggest that’d be a huge waste of money in terms of actually affecting the outcome, and that level of saturation would result in people completely tuning out the message or becoming actively hostile toward the people saying it…

  79. 79.

    Brachiator

    July 15, 2019 at 3:36 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    I was listening to the Pod Save the World podcast on a road trip this weekend, and the hosts interviewed Ece Temelkuran, a Turkish journalist who wrote “How to Lose a Country: The 7 Steps from Democracy to Dictatorship.”

    I think I’ve heard some of this before, and would like to check this out. Thanks for the link. I think that a couple of journalists have pointed out that Trump and the European right wing populists seem to be singing from the same hymnal.

    And in a spot of black humor, I imagine the hit musical “How to Succeed in Authoritarianism Without Really Trying,” featuring the song, “I Believe In Me.”

  80. 80.

    Librarian

    July 15, 2019 at 3:38 pm

    One of the major framers of the constitution was James Wilson of PA, who was a Scottish immigrant whose accent was so thick that the other members of the constitutional convention had trouble understanding him.

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    kindness

    July 15, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    This whole telling people of color to ‘Go back to your home country!’ is sad enough to begin with but just imagine how one group of color, American Indians think about the pasty white’s telling others to go back to the country they came from…….

    Could be funny but is really just pathetic.

  82. 82.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 15, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    @seaninclt: who do you know who doesn’t know these things?

  83. 83.

    cintibud

    July 15, 2019 at 3:42 pm

    One little bit of good news I just discovered, although I don’t know how old this is.

    Remember that guy in Tennessee who put up that big billboard “Make America White Again”? As it turned out that guy owned a restaurant that I used to eat at! It was close to a popular whitewater river that was used as a site for the 96 Olympics. Rafting outfitters used to recommend that place to their customers. After that story came out, all my friends and I stopped going there, the raft companies stopped recommending the place and I am now very happy to report that it has CLOSED!

  84. 84.

    zzyzx

    July 15, 2019 at 3:45 pm

    The problem isn’t ignorance; it’s people either not caring or not being willing to trust the source for the accusations, helped by having an entire news network that will explain that it’s all lies and slander.

    If it were that easy, Trump wouldn’t have been elected in 2016.

  85. 85.

    Major Major Major Major

    July 15, 2019 at 3:47 pm

    @Brachiator: @Ella in New Mexico:

    I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that due to his […] mental illness he is very likely being manipulated by people who are actually accomplishing major crimes

    Statements like this are considered rather offensive by many in the disabled/neuroatypical communities. Sure, it happens, but mental health actually has very little to do with whether a person is a corrupt, racist, authoritarian idiot shitheel.

  86. 86.

    Seaninclt

    July 15, 2019 at 3:47 pm

    @Eolirin: “if I had a billion dollars, I’d buy your adddddddd” So no, but jerkoffs like streyer, and Bloomberg, et al do have that. Shit, Joss Whedon’s Romney Zombie commercial was great. Have them think it up. Republicans have figured out that the vast majority of people are fucking morons. Period. You feed them small bites. Red state halfwits have been feeding on fox’s dirty water for so long it’s going to take time for the message to sink it. Will it piss em off if they hear it long enough, maybe? But who gives a fuck. It will stick in their little glue sniffing brains. And frankly, who gives a shit if we piss off a bunch of angry white guys. They are gonna vote for that douchebag no matter what. But maybe their wives won’t. Maybe their grown adult children won’t.

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    the Conster

    July 15, 2019 at 3:48 pm

    @seaninclt:

    We’re more than a year out from the election, and there is nothing about the word *impeachment* that would be any different than the more than a dozen active investigations going on now. What magic is in that word that would compel the WH to comply with House oversight requests that the courts are already opining on? Why on earth would you have any faith in the media to cover House hearings in good faith, without witnesses or other documents that the WH has so far refused to release? Nothing says exciting quite like showing an empty chair where a witness should be. It’s not 1974. I doubt there would be any coverage at all, frankly, and if there would be, the panels full of Trump’s lackeys after every close of session would be a shit show fail parade of both sides uselessness. Al lof the details of Trump’s outrageousness are reported on EVERY DAY – if someone doesn’t know about them, it’s because they don’t care to, or wouldn’t know a fact if it went up their ass sideways.

  88. 88.

    jl

    July 15, 2019 at 3:49 pm

    @kindness: Given that the home country of Ocasio-Cortex and that of her ancestors was well IS America, you have to wonder whether Trump knows Puerto Rico is part of the US and the people are US citizens. A person would think he must have figured it out after the hurricane but a person could be wrong.

  89. 89.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 15, 2019 at 3:50 pm

    @zhena gogolia: It is definitely a coordinated campaign. Saikat Chakrabarti and other Justice Dems are BS bros and want to destroy the Democratic party they say so themselves.

  90. 90.

    Aleta

    July 15, 2019 at 3:50 pm

    The techniques that T and Epstein, Ivanka and Kushner, and all kinds of people use to manipulate the media, covering up negative information from their pasts and planting favorable stories and blurbs and nice quotes from others, are part of what’s meant by “distraction.”

    In 80s NYC T was known for doing it himself and being good at playing the press. It’s also part of the story of Epstein’s continued influence after he got out of jail. It’s become normal, and that normalcy + the industry that’s evolved to do it are part of how T and Epstein and corrupt doctors get away with it.

  91. 91.

    Seaninclt

    July 15, 2019 at 3:50 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: every idiot that only watches foxnews, listens to Hannity, and thinks Ben Shapiro is the smartest person in the world.

  92. 92.

    Barbara

    July 15, 2019 at 3:51 pm

    @seaninclt: Are you Rip Van Winkle? Where have you been? Do you really think people don’t know this already? Smacks self on forehead.

  93. 93.

    Ruckus

    July 15, 2019 at 3:59 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    career ending

    It’s not career ending to him because he doesn’t have a career as such. At best his career is being a chump with just enough pull to screw little people working for him and not enough brains to even run a casino. Hell he could have hired someone cheap to run it better than he did. He isn’t even smart enough to know when he’s in a thousand feet under water. Two thousand, yes he knows that, knows it well, he’s spent most of his life that far under. The presidency wasn’t a career move for him, it was a last ditch effort to become solvent with his bank, The Bank of Vlad. Trump is a slave to his owner and his racism and isn’t smart enough to even know that. He thinks that all power comes from the press, which it probably does if that’s all you’ve got. And in his case, it is.

  94. 94.

    Brachiator

    July 15, 2019 at 4:02 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    It is definitely a coordinated campaign. Saikat Chakrabarti and other Justice Dems are BS bros and want to destroy the Democratic party they say so themselves

    If these people are truly this stupid, then they will soon be sitting old in the cold.

    I see your point, though. The Wilmerites have this fantasy that a grass roots revolution will topple both the Democrats and the Republcans. And I guess we will have a direct democracy of Bernie and the people. Anybody who signs up for this is a fool.

  95. 95.

    The Thin Black Duke

    July 15, 2019 at 4:03 pm

    Stop feeding the troll, folks.

  96. 96.

    Mnemosyne

    July 15, 2019 at 4:04 pm

    @Martin:

    Headline should be: “Trump suggests his supporters are racists.”

    And yet Hillary allegedly tanked her campaign by saying the same thing. ?

  97. 97.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    July 15, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    Quotations from Chairman Mittens

    ⚫ “Let Detroit go bankrupt.”

    ⚫ “I like being able to fire people!”

    ⚫ “Don’t try and stop the foreclosure process, let it run its course and hit the bottom.”

    ⚫ “Banks are scared to death, of course. They are feeling the same thing you’re feeling.”

    ⚫ “Corporations are people, my friend.”

    ⚫ “I should tell my story. I’m also unemployed.”

    ⚫ “We went to the company and we said, ‘Look, you can’t have any illegals working on our property. I’m running for office, for Pete’s sake! I can’t have illegals.’ ”

    ⚫ “It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person [Osama bin Laden].”

    ⚫ “I’m not concerned about the very poor.”

  98. 98.

    the Conster

    July 15, 2019 at 4:07 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    She was so generous in her characterization too – they’re ALL deplorable. And of course Wilmer piled on with the rest of the white male media and Republicans (same thing) by claiming Trump’s supporters weren’t racist or sexist.

  99. 99.

    Ella in New Mexico

    July 15, 2019 at 4:11 pm

    @the Conster: I absolutely want him Impeached, but no, I’m not willing to risk a failed Impeachment. My point is that part of all this stuff is designed to push those in the “Let’s Roll”-leaning camp to get mad at the calmer heads.

  100. 100.

    leeleeFL

    July 15, 2019 at 4:12 pm

    @Citizen Alan: He would have been, I hope. I am not related and my humiliation is boundless. I never believed my Country could still be as racist, homophobic, fascist as it seems so many are. What I thought was the Death Knell for all that turned out to be a rallying cry.
    Sad, sad, sad.
    At least Britain is trying. Turing’s on the 50 pound note. Something, it’s something.
    Carry on

  101. 101.

    rikyrah

    July 15, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    @zhena gogolia: It is definitely a coordinated campaign. Saikat Chakrabarti and other Justice Dems are BS bros and want to destroy the Democratic party they say so themselves.

    They really do…I wish more people would recognize it and it’s why I have always been sorta suspect about AOC and ‘ the squad’.

    Saw this analogy last night at another blog and totally cracked up reading it:..She brought the Supremes into it…
    BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH HA

    Miranda Mod • 16 hours ago
    I predict, as in every mean girl movie…(Heathers, Mean Girls, The Craft)….One will get the hell outta dodge when she realizes her name is being dragged down and she’s not even close with them like that (Pressley)..Omar and Tlaib will continue to get 2nd and 3rd billing and the jealousy inside (because they aren’t getting the good shine) will fester while they play backup to AOC. Then AOC will Diana Ross their asses and make a move leaving them to dust when she takes on some analyst job at CNN or MSNBC for a mill a year instead of sticking in that crappy congressional seat making chump change. Omar and Tlaib will lose their seats and have no such opportunities because let’s face it, they ain’t the “it” girl.
    Mark my words.

  102. 102.

    Mnemosyne

    July 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    As I’ve said before, the reason narcissists get away with their shit is not because they have a devious plan, but because they’re willing to do shit that normal people balk at doing, and everyone around them is too polite to point out the narcissist’s bullshit.

    Trump is saying out loud that he’s a racist. That’s what he’s doing. But it’s impolite to admit that in our society, so the MSM and everyone else is scrambling to pretend that he didn’t really mean it.

    We’re basically in an abusive relationship and the media is your codependent mom desperately trying to pretend that your alcoholic dad didn’t come home drunk last night. It’s all about maintaining the façade of normalcy when EVERYONE knows none of this is normal, including the people trying to pretend that it is.

  103. 103.

    the Conster

    July 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    Agreed. No one wants to hear that the only way to hold him accountable is to beat him, but there is no other way. It sure does seem like the impeach now screamers don’t understand that the BEST impeachment scenario is President Pence, and after his “performance” at the border, why would anyone believe he’d be any better? In fact, if Mitch McConnell starts making noises about the possibility of a Senate conviction – say the Epstein business turns into a huge problem for Trump/GOP – it’s because he’s done the calculation that Pence would be better for the GOP than Trump.

  104. 104.

    Ella in New Mexico

    July 15, 2019 at 4:18 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    the effect is that opponents find it difficult to effectively counter a fire hose stream of outrageous shit.

    A thousand times yes. And I’ll be checking out that book shortly.. :-)

  105. 105.

    Plato

    July 15, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    @realDonaldTrump notes today on @AOC and @IlhanMN flipped and rotated #for your viewing pleasure. pic.twitter.com/42sdbsRivQ— Jabin Botsford (@jabinbotsford) July 15, 2019

    Alcaida indeed.

  106. 106.

    germy

    July 15, 2019 at 4:41 pm

    Inbox: "Today, Rep. Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib will hold a press conference on the recent attacks from the U.S. President" (5:30pm ET)— Josh Lederman (@JoshNBCNews) July 15, 2019

  107. 107.

    Brachiator

    July 15, 2019 at 4:44 pm

    @the Conster:

    No one wants to hear that the only way to hold him accountable is to beat him, but there is no other way. It sure does seem like the impeach now screamers don’t understand that the BEST impeachment scenario is President Pence, and after his “performance” at the border, why would anyone believe he’d be any better?

    To me, life is simple. Get rid of Trump and then find a way to take care of Pence.

    I have never understood nor accepted the argument “We have to keep Trump because Pence would be worse,” even though it keeps popping up in Balloon Juice comments.

    In fact, if Mitch McConnell starts making noises about the possibility of a Senate conviction – say the Epstein business turns into a huge problem for Trump/GOP – it’s because he’s done the calculation that Pence would be better for the GOP than Trump.

    I don’t much give a shit what McConnell wants or what he has calculated. It almost seems a complicated way of doing what the Republcans want.

    I favor impeachment, but am not gnashing my teeth over Pelosi’s cautious approach.

    But I want Trump gone because he is a racist con man. I want Pence gone because he is a religious but job. I don’t much care whether they go separately or together.

  108. 108.

    zhena gogolia

    July 15, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:

    You left out 47%!

  109. 109.

    cynthia ackerman

    July 15, 2019 at 4:49 pm

    So disheartening that this needs pointing out:

    Rep Hurd ( R, MD) says iDJT’s comments are about returning progressive women to their respective district’s, not foreign countries.

    OK.

    Their respective districts elected them to fix the problems iDJT and Hurd claim as off limits.

    iDJT and Hurd, if you can’t stand the heat, go back to any shithole whatsoever.

  110. 110.

    Brachiator

    July 15, 2019 at 4:50 pm

    @germy:

    Inbox: “Today, Rep. Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib will hold a press conference on the recent attacks from the U.S. President” (5:30pm ET)— Josh Lederman (@JoshNBCNews) July 15, 2019

    I want to see that Pelosi has their backs. I don’t want to see them acting as free agents.

    And I want to see a unified Democratic Party slam Trump on his racism. Stomp his racist ass into the ground.

  111. 111.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 15, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    @cynthia ackerman: Beto’s friend says whut?

  112. 112.

    rikyrah

    July 15, 2019 at 4:56 pm

    @Brachiator:

    To me, life is simple. Get rid of Trump and then find a way to take care of Pence.

    I have never understood nor accepted the argument “We have to keep Trump because Pence would be worse,”

    ICAM

  113. 113.

    Brachiator

    July 15, 2019 at 4:57 pm

    Profiles in Cowardice

    Since the tweets went out on Sunday morning, Trump has been fiercely decried by Democrats and world leaders. But the GOP has barely flinched.

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy have not addressed it and their offices did not immediately respond to requests for comment from INSIDER.

  114. 114.

    JDM

    July 15, 2019 at 4:57 pm

    @Just One More Canuck:

    a seventy-two year old white man born rich and privileged doesn’t have the same experience as four women of colour at least a generation younger? You cant learn that kind of cluel

    One difference between them is that none of their fathers were born amongst a large branch of the family where they live in Mexico. But you know, there’s nothing wrong with that…as long as you’re not a hypocrite about it.

  115. 115.

    TenguPhule

    July 15, 2019 at 5:00 pm

    @Brachiator:

    I want Pence gone because he is a religious but job.

    Freudian Slip? Still probably right though.

  116. 116.

    JDM

    July 15, 2019 at 5:04 pm

    @rikyrah: So where are the constant investigations that will put the facts in front of the American voting public night after night? Because without those, why shouldn’t they accept the idiot Trump’s claim that they’ve actually got nothing on him? This is what we have going into the election next year; either there are public congressional investigations or voters will see only dribs and drabs here and there, all presented in “both sides” format.

  117. 117.

    Ella in New Mexico

    July 15, 2019 at 5:06 pm

    I’ve been trying to link to a picture of Trump’s talking points from his presser today, but the site won’t let me. But rest assured, they were nicely dictated and bulleted for his poor reading skills by Miller and Mulvaney,

    And CC’d to Lindsey G-boy with a reminder of what they’ve got in their safe on him.

  118. 118.

    Ella in New Mexico

    July 15, 2019 at 5:10 pm

    @cynthia ackerman:

    Rep Hurd ( R, MD) says iDJT’s comments are about returning progressive women to their respective district’s, not foreign countries.

    OK.

    Their respective districts elected them to fix the problems iDJT and Hurd claim as off limits.

    iDJT and Hurd, if you can’t stand the heat, go back to any shithole whatsoever.

    That was not Will Hurd, it was the idiot Rep. Andy Harris of MD. Please don’t spread false information.

  119. 119.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    July 15, 2019 at 5:10 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Beto’s friend says whut?

    Criticism of ‘Dear Leader’ is inappropriate.

  120. 120.

    germy

    July 15, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    “ ‘The Squad’ is big,” she said. “If you share the values and believe in working for a more equitable and just world, you are part of ‘The Squad.’ ” —@AyannaPressley https://t.co/jFwhcLCdaW— Rashida Tlaib (@RashidaTlaib) July 15, 2019

  121. 121.

    germy

    July 15, 2019 at 5:27 pm

    Rep. Al Green says that he'll force a vote on articles of impeachment against Trump by next week, citing Trump's racist tweets.https://t.co/Vfh1ZTlJmg— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 15, 2019

  122. 122.

    germy

    July 15, 2019 at 5:28 pm

    Ayanna Pressley: "Despite the occupant of the White House's attempts to marginalize us and to silence us, please know that we are more than four people. We ran on a mandate to advocate for and to represent those ignored, left out, and left behind. Our squad is big."— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 15, 2019

  123. 123.

    germy

    July 15, 2019 at 5:32 pm

    Reps. Omar, Pressley, Ocasio-Cortez and Tlaib respond to Trump’s comments
    watch the press conference live:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nry4f3D0zd4

  124. 124.

    different-church-lady

    July 15, 2019 at 5:32 pm

    @Martin:

    Headline should be: “Trump suggests confirms his supporters are racists.”

  125. 125.

    J R in WV

    July 15, 2019 at 5:50 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    Headline should be: “Trump suggests confirms he and his supporters are racists.”

    Fixed that for you…. iterative improvement!! A real technique in software development…

  126. 126.

    different-church-lady

    July 15, 2019 at 5:55 pm

    @seaninclt:

    Donald cheats on his wife with a porn star. He launders Russian Mob money. He pals around with pedophiles. He gives national security secrets to the Russians. He has been accused of rape more than a few times. He is a racist who doesn’t like people of color. He has a problem with any woman that speakers her mind or won’t let him grope her.

    All that stuff just makes him look like fuckin’ James Bond to the deplorables.

  127. 127.

    J R in WV

    July 15, 2019 at 6:27 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    All that stuff just makes him look like fuckin’ James Bond to the deplorables.

    Maybe to the deplorables. A great funny line, thanks!

    But Nothin’ gonna make him look like James Bond to anyone with two wits to run together!!

  128. 128.

    TenguPhule

    July 15, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    @J R in WV:

    But Nothin’ gonna make him look like James Bond to anyone with two wits to run together!!

    Unfortunately, we need a majority.

  129. 129.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 15, 2019 at 7:28 pm

    @Seaninclt: Why do you care about reaching out to the unreachable? Also, the normal action following a gbcw is to go away. Just saying.

  130. 130.

    cynthia ackerman

    July 16, 2019 at 12:14 am

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    Thanks for the correction.

    It was a careless mistake, not an intended misdirection.

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