As Donald Trump and his administration trek further into the moral abyss, expect more demonstrations. Participate, even.
The media are ignoring demonstrations – there was some local coverage of last Friday’s Lights for Liberty, but I don’t recall seeing anything national.
On Tuesday afternoon, a thousand protesters, led by Never Again Action, a Jewish group, blocked the entrances to ICE headquarters for several hours. That got some national coverage.
Today, Catholic groups are protesting immigration policy at the Capitol. I’ve seen nothing about this so far from news organizations, so here’s a particularly good Twitter thread. Also, the hashtag #CatholicDayofAction.
https://twitter.com/Marissa_Jae/status/1151859796536176640
https://twitter.com/Marissa_Jae/status/1151863023629455360
https://twitter.com/Marissa_Jae/status/1151880527391186948
https://twitter.com/Marissa_Jae/status/1151883678345322497
https://twitter.com/Marissa_Jae/status/1151889472474243078
rikyrah
Good for them.
clap clap clap clap
Brachiator
This is sad. Maybe it would help if Democrats praise these protestors whenever they are interviewed, and point out how these are mainstream Americans doing what Americans do.
satby
Sister Pat is a distant relative (cousin many times removed IIRC), and as a member of the Sisters of Mercy order has always served the poor mostly in Chicago. Not my church any longer, but when they quit focusing on zygotes the Catholic church can be a powerful voice for justice.
rikyrah
This is true. Because, they don’t want to be putting the attention on the Concentration Camps, where is belongs.
Raoul
It has felt like the press went out of its way to ignore Lights 4 Liberty.
We have to bring the fight to every institution that is failing us. The news industry included.
debbie
It’s a start. I believe I haven’t seen a lay-in since ACT UP.
mad citizen
Snark On: It’s nice the Catholic church can do something worthwhile for once.
chris
Where is staunch Catholic Kellyanne Conway? Can’t wait to hear what she has to say.
Omnes Omnibus
@Brachiator: Why do you think that Dem legislators could drive coverage to this? AOC was only able to get a few hours of coverage when she went to actual camps herself. Most of that coverage seemed to be about her allegedly losing her temper and “screaming” at ICE officials.
rikyrah
@Raoul:
Absolutely.
rikyrah
@Omnes Omnibus:
That was the closest that they could get to ‘ both sides’ about it.
Otherwise, it’s quite clear the abomination that those camps are.
schrodingers_cat
@rikyrah: I doubt that the Orange One could have become President without media’s complicity. They continue aiding and abetting him no matter how bad he and the other Rs get.
Frankensteinbeck
The division between the hate-mongering ultra-conservative American Catholic Church leadership and a large portion of its worshipers that are more moderate or even liberal, not to mention the fairly liberal nuns, should be interesting. This issue involves oppression of a mostly-Catholic minority. Will the American bishops love their in-group or their cruelty more?
Courage is not the issue. Elected officials mostly reflect their voters. The Republicans in congress think concentration camps are a good thing and only extreme cowardice of a major threat to their jobs would make them oppose white supremacy in sufficient numbers to change anything. The vast majority will dig in their heels and defend what they believe – that the browning of America is the greatest threat to the country.
the Conster
is this the same media I keep being told will shine the light on all of Trump’s crimes with 24/7 coverage of impeachment hearings and turn the nation’s lonely eyes to Mitch McConnell? Presumably hearings consisting of empty witness chairs and lists of documents that haven’t been given to the Judiciary Committee because of the WH and DOJ stonewalling? The same media that instead of covering the fact that underage Katie Johnson was raped by Epstein and Trump according to court documents released last week, covered the Squad’s conveniently timed spat with Pelosi instead? That media? SMH. They’re USELESS. They’re worse than useless, they’re collaborating.
Ruviana
It’s MSNBC, but they covered it, including the sit-ins and arrests.
Mary G
There are awful nuns, but some do really great social justice work. And they don’t let the men shut them down.
Frankensteinbeck
@the Conster:
…what? Where can I see these documents, or detailed descriptions of them?
Brachiator
@Omnes Omnibus:
Would it hurt for them to mention this when they have a microphone stuck in their faces and asked something typical or stupid?
It might get edited out. But enough outlets are lazy and might just leave it in.
cmorenc
Trump’s incendiary rhetoric is much more shiny-object dramatic for the news media to cover than a bunch of protesters conducting a “passive resistance” sort of demonstration. It takes a massive turnout of the sort the Women’s march drew, complete with pink pussy hats to add to the drama, to get the media much interested.
AOC is getting coverage because she is extremely effective at dramatically presenting herself (and to a not inconsiderable extent, because she is a congressperson rather than just another citizen).
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@cmorenc: What he said, the media isn’t about information, it’s about sensationalism.
waratah
Thank you Cheryl I noticed the lights did not get coverage unless it was local.
Just because it is not on national TV they do not get to ignore this.
eemom
Actually, the Never Again group — which is largely young people — has been at this for weeks.
Those kids have more courage and conscience in their little fingers than the Democratic “leadership” times infinity.
Doug Gardner
I am still waiting for evangelicals to “remember” they are supposed to oppose inhumane treatment.
Frankensteinbeck
@Brachiator:
Consider that of all the time all elected Democrats have a microphone stuck in their faces together, only a few seconds will be chosen to be shared with the public.
zhena gogolia
A friend who deals with the public in our little middle-class town all the time said one of her clients keeps talking about how great the stock market is doing. So she said to her, “Oh, do you have a lot invested in the stock market?” The person of course just shut up, because of course she doesn’t. Then my friend said, “Did you notice how much higher your taxes were this year?” She claimed not to have noticed.
They’ll use anything for cover to keep supporting him.
eemom
@Brachiator:
Silly man. Everybody knows Democrats are utterly powerless to command the attention of any news media.
Oh, except when Maureen Dowd is feeling generous.
HumboldtBlue
Fuck the motherfucking Catholic Church, with all due respect Sister Pat.
Your faith and your church are key players in the creation of the humanitarian crisis at hand.
So decent people should be outraged, not just people who believe absolute fucking nonsense.
low-tech cyclist
I remember how the anti-war protests leading up to the Iraq War got minimal play, even though hundreds of thousands of people protested – maybe over a million nationwide.
And that’s what happened to lefty protests. Why bother taking to the streets if nobody’s paying attention?
But it seems that if a few dozen wingnuts have a protest, that somehow gets media play.
the Conster
@Frankensteinbeck:
Uncovered from a 2016 filing.
twitter thread about it
NotMax
@chris
Hanging out with staunch Catholic Melania?
Spanky
Your daily Iran distraction:
(Apparently hastily pasted on top of the Iranian Guard tanker seizure story.)
MisterForkbeard
@eemom: Didn’t you just prove the wrong point? Democrats can only command media attention when trashing other democrats.
It’s the same reason Bernie got a lot of attention last time around.
oatler.
@NotMax: @NotMax: We’ve got the “conservative” wing of Catholics condemning the Pope as a communist and also condemning Vatican II (dirty hippies!)
Uncle Cosmo
@satby:
FTFY. The secret to understanding the activities of the One Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church is 3 little words: Follow. The. Money. (E.g., pedophile priests didn’t get the hierarchy’s attention until the first lawsuits were filed by the abused.)
Mnemosyne
@Frankensteinbeck:
It’s going to be tricky, because immigrants from Latin America and the Pacific islands are the current backbone of the RCC in America. Some of the archbishops and cardinals who covered up for kiddie diddlers were also active in the sanctuary movement of the 1980s that sheltered refugees from places like El Salvador who were threatened by the death squads of a government the US supported.
I think this may be an area where the bishops will decide to make their country club converts uncomfortable and support refugees.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@oatler.: Everyone knows that God only speaks Latin.
Omnes Omnibus
@eemom: No, not entirely powerless, but people need to realize that the msm as a whole is not on our side and is quite likely to view events through a GOP-centric lens.
Betty Cracker
Finally! I was wondering what happened to the Javanka PR shop.
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Pig Latin, heathen swine. //
Uncle Cosmo
@Mary G: Growing up a public-school Catholic, I only had one encounter with a nun – I missed a cue during the rehearsal for First Holy Communion & this penguin swooped up behind me & launched a Callused Palm kid-seeking missile that caught me like a baseball bat in the right rear quadrant of my skull. As I tried to regain my balance she snarled, Stoopeed! (Polish refugee skulking in that Polish-American parish, no doubt). Never had much use for the Sisters Sadistica before or since.
Kent
@mad citizen:
This isn’t the Catholic church doing something worthwhile. I don’t see any bishops or cardinals down there. This is a bunch of dissident nuns protesting. I’m pretty sure they don’t represent the Catholic Church in this action. I don’t see them excommunicating Trump like they did with Dem leaders over this.
chris
@NotMax: Chuckling together over the uproar at Planned Parenthood.
trollhattan
@Betty Cracker:
“Daddy, they’re so icky!” [stamps pumps resolutely]
Omnes Omnibus
@Kent: Could you remind me which Democratic leaders were excommunicated? And what was the issue?
ruemara
@Brachiator: lol. That really doesn’t happen.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kent: Trump’s not Catholic, he’s Presbyterian*.
* Or as he put it “Presbyterian, would you believe it”.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Sibling rivalry?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: None that I can think of, but refusing communion…
zhena gogolia
@Omnes Omnibus:
I thought Kerry was, over abortion, but a quick dip into the internet swamp suggests that this didn’t officially happen.
Roger Moore
@Omnes Omnibus:
I don’t think that’s true. She was able to drive a lot of media cycles just by calling the camps “concentration camps”. It took a lot of Republican stomping and screaming about anything else to get the media’s attention away from the camps. It’s disappointing they were distracted, but it was actual Republican distraction that moved the media attention, not just boredom with the issue.
Omnes Omnibus
@Brachiator: OT: The Suzannah Lipscomb witch documentary was on Netflix.
rikyrah
#DarrylVarnum: “I’m gonna kill your ass if you do that bill. I swear”. “This is the United States of America, bitch. Get the fuck out.”
Pentagon Contractor Allegedly Threatened to Kill Congresswoman Over Vaccine Billhttps://t.co/NXjjT3EOx2
— 3ChicsPolitico (@3ChicsPolitico) July 18, 2019
bluefoot
@low-tech cyclist: It’s always worth it, though. Even symbolic action is action. And protests can grow over time. And protests can help connect different people/groups to more effective collective action.
Plus even if the US media doesn’t cover protests, our protests aren’t necessarily ignored in international media. My non-American friends and colleagues abroad have said repeatedly that the protests here show them that we, the American people, haven’t lost our morality or our minds,that they should still believe in us.
Kent
@Omnes Omnibus: Abortion of course. I guess looking up the issue it is usually refusing communion rather than outright excommunication. Here’s a list
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excommunication_of_Catholic_politicians_who_support_abortion
I thought Pelosi was also on that list. But I don’t see her name.
eemom
@Omnes Omnibus:
So the answer is to fucking fight that, not roll over and play dead.
I will say this again, and again, and again: Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the fucking House of Representatives — whom the press CANNOT ignore if she chooses to speak — has absolute power to command the cameras and microphones every. fucking. day. to speak truth to the public to its face, in her own words. She is SQUANDERING that power.
And don’t tell me that giving speeches isn’t her strong point, because if that’s the case, she’s in the wrong fucking job.
Not that she’s squat doing with what y’all keep insisting IS her strong point, either, but that’s another story.
/psycho
Brachiator
@eemom:
I know that some people like to complain about how powerless the Democrats are.
None of my coworkers under age 35 know or care who Died is. For that matter, they don’t care about the NY Times. The Times has clout, but it is rapidly diminishing.
@ruemara:
I notice a fair amount of laziness and sloppiness in radio and broadcast news.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
I was trying to figure out if enough was being withheld from my paycheck. I found an article from Forbes about the 2019 rates, deductions, etc., and I did the calculations. My 2019 taxes are increasing by about $700 (and I don’t make that much to begin with). I wish these supporters would do the same and see how they come out. It might change more than a few minds about him.
Martin
@Betty Cracker: This family is the Michael Phelps of putting self interest above everything else.
Omnes Omnibus
@Roger Moore: You are right about that, but look at the form the coverage took. Bothsider shit. “Those camp seem unpleasant, but isn’t AOC being equally bad by using the term concentration camp when there are no gas chambers and no Jews?”
The msm is at the very least an obstacle to overcome if not an actual opponent.
Sister Golden Bear
Turning our attention to less savory religious characters….
In today’s edition of “watching my rights being taken away in real-time,” the Christofascists are seeing Trump’s new “natural law” commission — created to re-evaluate the U.S.’s human rights policy — as “an extraordinary opening to push for clear and consistent recognition of the natural family” and “gives us a forum to challenge American foreign policy that has in the past advanced the extreme agenda of the left that has been cloaked in the language of so-called human rights.”
From Right Wing Watch via Joe.My.God:
Natural law theory has been used for a long time by Catholic Church leaders and theologians who reject LGBT people’s identities and their relationships. Natural law theory has various strains, but as applied to sexuality and gender, it essentially argues that people whose sexual expression or gender identity is not “natural,” or who have non-procreative sex, are defying the “natural law” of God.
All of the commission’s members are anti-LGBT activists. The commission, which was reportedly created without input from the State Department’s existing human rights infrastructure, is reportedly the brainchild of NOM founder Robert George, who, after the Supreme Court’s Obergefell ruling, called for “all federal and state officeholders in the United States” to defy the decision.
joemygod.com/2019/07/brian-brown-new-natural-law-commission-provides-an-extraordinary-opening-to-cha…
It won’t surprise you that “natural law” advocates are also forced-birthers.
Martin
@Omnes Omnibus:
Financial lens. That tends to align well with the GOP – but not always.
Gravenstone
@Spanky: You go,WaPo! Click baity headline aside, they apparently disabled the control system of the drone, causing it to crash. Still a provocative action, but not an actually “shoot down”. Wonder if this is normal RoE for the region, or if someone got special dispensation to rattle this particular sword?
Brachiator
@Betty Cracker:
Did she pout or stamp her foot?
TenguPhule
@debbie:
That immortal quote about sparrows and curtain rods comes to mind.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
Is it good? I see it’s on youtube too. I’m still upset after reading about the Salem Witch Trials back in 2015.
TenguPhule
@debbie:
Spoiler: The bad guy wins.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Brachiator: She refused the standard ‘Executive Time activities’.
Brachiator
@Omnes Omnibus:
Thanks. I also see that it is on Acorn TV, which I can somehow get through Amazon Prime.
TenguPhule
Via Wapo.
And i will observe an interesting historical note, the chemicals used in the camp gas chambers also started as pesticides that were studied a bit further for other applications.
Miss Bianca
@Sister Golden Bear: I commiserate with you in this nightmare.
Omnes Omnibus
@eemom: Who are the Speakers of the House who were great public speakers?
In any case, my position is that we should be working toward impeachment, but that it should be done methodically and every I should be dotted and every T crossed. The senate will not convict so there is no reason to think that impeaching today is going to get Trump out of office before 2021. So I say build the case in such a way that it puts both Trump and the GOP on display for what they are in the lead up to the 2020 election.
You obviously see it differently. Also, FYI, the song “Psycho Killer” was off of Talking Heads 77 which oddly enough came out in 1977. As a result, it really isn’t an 80s song.
Cheryl Rofer
There are no depths to which the Trumpies will not go.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus:
She’s probably going with ‘Psycho Chicken’ by ‘The Fools’ that came out in 1980.
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: I think so. Lipscomb is a good tv presenter but her scholarship is pretty solid as well.
Cheryl Rofer
Another demonstration starting up –
MomSense
@debbie:
I’ve got three of them in my family genealogy. I remember thinking as a kid how lucky I was to live in a time when people were guided by reason and science. And now we are back to flat earth and anti science.
eemom
@Omnes Omnibus:
uh…..where did I say that it was?
For that matter, where did I mention the song at all?
eemom
@Omnes Omnibus:
I am not talking about being a “great” speaker, but about using the power of the Speakership to command the attention of the public. You know, as its name implies. See also “leadership”.
MomSense
@zhena gogolia:
I think it was statements by individual priests and not from leadership.
Omnes Omnibus
@Kent: I know it was about communion. That is why I asked.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Go read what the Republicans are saying in private and public. They going nuts trying to support Trump and run from him at the very same time. Trump’s overt racism is over the line, the GOP knows it, and it’s clear Trump won’t let to go because he gets off on hurting others and his base is egging him on. It’s quite possible that “Tell them to go home” will tear the GOP apart.
raven
@Martin: Michael Phelps was incredibly helpful to Allison Schmitt when she suffered major depression after the Bejing Olympics.
Omnes Omnibus
@eemom: Well, if you don’t remember, don’t worry about it.
low-tech cyclist
@Sister Golden Bear:
“If gay people are a mistake, they’re a mistake I’ve made hundreds of millions of times, which proves I’m incompetent and shouldn’t be relied upon for anything.” – God
Brachiator
A great long read from the New York Review of Books
The New Fugitive Slave Laws
Manisha Sinha
nybooks.com/daily/2019/07/17/the-new-fugitive-slave-laws/
TenguPhule
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
They will all quietly fall back in line. Its what they are.
low-tech cyclist
@bluefoot:
Good points!
TenguPhule
@low-tech cyclist:
Best Description of that particular god I’ve ever seen.
Roger Moore
@Doug Gardner:
That would require them to recognize Those People as human.
Omnes Omnibus
@eemom: If you think that “leadership” from the Speaker’s office is going magically result in 218 votes in the Dem caucus, then you have bought into Green Lanternism.
What I have talked about has a reasonable chance of being effective. I would prefer to go that route than do something that has virtually no chance.
A good number of the people involved in the July 20 plot to kill Hitler did not think that they were likely to succeed in eliminating Hitler and replacing his government with a decent one that would end the war, etc. They believed that their cause was lost and they simply wanted to show that their were Germans who were willing to try. IOW they did it for the history books I don’t think we are at that point yet.
eemom
@Sister Golden Bear:
I have a question for you.
It hasn’t come up here much — perhaps because the majority (though by no means all) of the commenters here are in the “privileged” category — but outside the walls of this particular echo chamber there has been discussion of the fact that the cheerleaders of the “go slow” approach to impeachment are generally the folks who can AFFORD to wait for when — if ever — this monster and his sub-monsters are removed from power….aka privileged people in general, and straight white men, in particular….though there are plenty of women in that category. (I personally don’t know any people of color who are.)
Since you are one whose very life is under direct attack every minute trump remains in power…..without any ATTEMPT even being made to remove him — your opinion of the chosen course of the Democratic “leadership” is inherently entitled to respect. So I would like to know what it is, if you wouldn’t mind sharing.
Brachiator
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Fine by me. The sad thing is that GOP political strategists are looking for ways to keep the bullshit going.
Swear to God I heard a talk radio host say “Trump said that Omar supports Al Queda. This isn’t true…as far as we know.”
Fox News and other dedicated right wing media are not worried about backlash and will continue to dish the racism.
TenguPhule
@Omnes Omnibus:
Most of the assassination plots against Hitler would have succeeded if not for his sheer dumb luck and streak of paranoia.
John Revolta
@low-tech cyclist: Homosexual relationships are well-documented in the animal kingdom as well. Somebody needs to tell the dumb critters they ain’t actin’ natural.
Nelle
@Cheryl Rofer: This is what happened to my uncle in Russia in 1919. My grandfather had gone into hidingfrom the Red soldiers ( he was a journalist unpopular with the Bolsheviks) and my uncle was taken to try to flush him out. Mu uncle nearly died of starvation, then typhus in the prison but insisted that his father stay hidden. It is part of the set of nightmare family stories. But never, never did I think it would be happening here. At least my uncle was a young nan, not a child. Deplorable is much to kind of a term for this evil.
eemom
@Omnes Omnibus:
I love how you people always break out that “magic” strawman when your idol is challenged.
No, I didn’t say it would happen magically, or even immediately. But “leadership” means WORKING TO BRING ABOUT A RESULT…..guess what, even when it’s an uphill battle!….. not assuming it’s unattainable from the get go and, again, laying down and playing dead.
Omnes Omnibus
@TenguPhule: Stauffenberg went ahead on July 20 even though Himmler was not there because the gesture was more important to him than the success of the plan
plato
Brachiator
@Omnes Omnibus:
I thought they wanted to kill Hitler. That’s why they used a bomb. That Hitler survived was dumb luck.
If it were primarily a symbolic act, it was a hell of a protest.
Omnes Omnibus
@eemom: My idol?
And where the fuck have I said one word about giving up? Read what I wrote in the thread.
Kay
@Betty Cracker:
Journalists should stop covering releases from Ivanka’s PR team like it’s news.
Can she speak? If she wants to say something she can she can say it in public. Despite what she’s been told her whole life she’s not actually US royalty. She can address us directly or not at all.
Jay
@Gravenstone:
Last week Gibralter/Britain used Marine commando’s to seize an “Iranian” Supertanker in the Med, allegedly for intending to break Sanctions on Syria.
Iran seized an UAE small tanker on Monday. At first they claimed it had broken down in Iranian waters. The UAE says it’s not theirs, and the Company it is registered to seems to be a front.
cbc.ca/news/world/mideast-gulf-iran-tanker-1.5216139
Now Iran says it was smuggling refined fuel from Iran, illegally.
There’s a lot of bs., misdirection and misinformation on all sides, but:
Where as on Monday, both the UAE and the US Navy had claimed that the ship had never turned off it’s Ship Tracking System in the past.
Omnes Omnibus
@Brachiator: See my response @97.
Kay
Ha! I didn’t realize they were all now lying about the chant. They must think it’ really damaging to them.
lurker dean
@Cheryl Rofer: i just saw this fucking fascist shit. these poor kids are american citizens. who have been held since 3am as hostages to force their parents to pick them up so they can be arrested. fucking heads better roll after this, this is fucked up. you can hold kids hostage to get their parents. fuck.
lurker dean
@eemom: yup.
theroot.com/as-a-black-man-i-understand-why-democrats-don-t-want-t-1835212320
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
Thanks. PBS has been showing a number of documentaries written and narrated by British women historians. Sometimes, I get a feeling they’re basically vanity productions and an opportunity to see them in any number of cute outfits. Maybe I’ve become jaded by these and all the other productions that focus more on reenactments than archival material.
debbie
@MomSense:
Right! Just when you think it’s safe to go in the water again …
debbie
@Kay:
I heard a reporter saying there was a 13-second pause while he soaked in the crowd’s response. That’s fairly long when you’re so upset by it. //
Jay
bookdragon
@Raoul: perhaps Fox News studios should be sites for protests too?
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: A lot of what you are talking about are things done by Lucy Worsley. Part of her scholarship is looking at domestic life and how it and things like the size of beds and bedrooms illustrated the state of society, etc. it stuff that historians traditionally looked at. Of course she also gives the impression that she enjoys the chance to dress in period clothing.
MomSense
@debbie:
Cue theme from Jaws.
Speaking of PBS, isn’t there a country music documentary coming out?
Jay
Omnes Omnibus
@MomSense: Ken Burns has done one that should be hitting PBS soon.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
I Googled her photo, and yes, that’s her! I believe it was she who walked and talked past Anne Boleyn as she was executed. Looking at Wikipedia, she’s done an incredible number of programs.
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
It should be good. Hopefully lots of Hank and Merle.
NotMax
@debbie
Couple of documentaries about the Roman empire, featuring Mary Beard, on Prime. Quite good, and not a cute outfit in sight.
J R in WV
@schrodingers_cat:
Yes, totally.
But don’t forget Big Jim Comey’s last minute attack on Hillary Clinton’s email policies, obviously the worst crime in the political world since Hitler’s Final Solution.
That had to help, perhaps just ehough…
O. Felix Culpa
I recently attended a training on the media in electoral politics. Interesting factoid: a decade or so ago, a television sound bite was 30 seconds. Today? Nine seconds.
Omnes Omnibus
@O. Felix Culpa: How long does it take to say, “Lock her up?”
CarolPW
@MomSense: Lots of Merle and at least some Hank, including an interview with Merle before he died. There is a 22 minute preview out there worth watching while we wait (no longer have the link but a search of Burns, PBS and country should get you there. Was sad when Burns talked about how many of the people they interviewed died between their interview and now.
My sister and niece saw the show at the Ryman that will be most or all of the final episode and said it was fantastc.
the Conster
@Jay:
Then their job here is done. Isn’t that the point of Justice Democrat activism? Bring down the Dem party from inside?
Putin is a fucking genius.
rikyrah
@Sister Golden Bear:
You are telling the truth???
No shock about the phony azz Christians. This is all Pence and his so-called Christian buddies??
J R in WV
@Cheryl Rofer:
I see from that twitter thread that ICE is attempting to hold the children hostage in order to cause an undocumented parent to come for them, so they can arrest the parent. This is kidnapping, legally, and the Chicago child care authorities need to get an arrest warrant from a judge and arrest those who held those innocent (legally) children prisoners illegally.
I also think those concentration camps holding kids longer than 72 hours are nests of kidnapped children being abused, and state troopers with warrants need to take charge of those concentration camps, arrest the “agents” or private security guards, whatever they are holding children illegally, and free the children.
And I also mean those managing the programs feeding those privately operated “prisons”, the federal management employees, need to be arrested for child abuse and held for trial without bail.
Once some people are held without bail for child abuse, they will begin to have trouble recruiting sadists and pedophiles to run their concentration camps.
Jay
@the Conster:
There is nothing that a Democrat can say, or do, that won’t be twisted into the opposite by the ReThugs and the Complicit MSM and repeatably pounded into their supporters tiny lizard brains.
It’s not the ND’s fault that the US is almost full up with mouth breathers, morons, the venal, child abusers, god botherers and the complicit, including 13% of so called Democratic “liberals”.
the Conster
@Jay:
It does seem pretty hopeless, particularly when your so called allies demand you step aside while you’re welcoming them joining you.
Bonnie
At long last! Why has it taken church leaders so long to do anything?! I am going to invest in bumper stickers to be given out for free that say: A vote for Trump is a vote for the DEVIL. I am 73 getting over cancer with other physical infirmities; but, I will do whatever I can to stop this child abuse right now! It breaks my heart.