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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Dolt 45 / Cold Grey Pre-Dawn Open Thread: Mueller’s Hearing — the Nut Graf(s)

Cold Grey Pre-Dawn Open Thread: Mueller’s Hearing — the Nut Graf(s)

by Anne Laurie|  July 25, 20194:44 am| 14 Comments

This post is in: Dolt 45, Indict the MOFO, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality, Fucked-up-edness

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For all of the talk about Mueller’s halting performance, this exchange is why his testimony could have an effect: at just over a minute long, it’s almost made for TV and is ideal for social-media shares pic.twitter.com/HYg5azb8VI

— Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo) July 24, 2019

The Washington Post has a complete transcript of the proceedings, including Adam Schiff’s opening statement:

… Your report, for those who have taken the time to study it, is methodical and it is devastating, for it tells the story of a foreign adversary’s sweeping and systemic intervention in a close U.S. presidential election.

That should be enough to deserve the attention of every American, as you well point out. But your report tells another story as well. The story of the 2016 election is also a story about disloyalty to country, about greed, and about lies.

Your investigation determined that the Trump campaign, including Donald Trump himself, knew that a foreign power was intervening in our election and welcomed it, built Russian meddling into their strategy and used it…

Robert Mueller confirmed that President Trump asked staff to falsify records relevant to the investigation https://t.co/wH68HvPW29 pic.twitter.com/ptraemjHJB

— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) July 24, 2019

Mueller says it is correct that his investigation turned up evidence of conspiracy.

— Jonathan Allen (@jonallendc) July 24, 2019

Schiff’s five minutes and Mueller’s answers would have been enough for Republicans to impeach and convict any other president before sundown today.

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) July 24, 2019

Rep. Demings: "Lies by Trump campaign officials and administration officials impeded your investigation."

Mueller: "I would generally agree with that."https://t.co/m9KGQtGMJ7 pic.twitter.com/Q5FA8KJWjh

— NBC News (@NBCNews) July 24, 2019


To be clear, this has always been broadly assumed. But Mueller was definitive. That's new.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 24, 2019

Rep. Johnson: President Donald Trump directed WH Counsel Don McGahn to fire you.
Mueller: Correct

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) July 24, 2019

This 35 seconds will deservedly be shown over and over and over https://t.co/gfTORQgW2T

— David Cantwell (@dlcantwell) July 24, 2019

Rep. Jackson Lee made an important, but perhaps subtle, point in her questioning. She established that Mueller found that Trump had motive to impede the Russia investigation, contradicting William Barr, who said Trump was merely frustrated.

— Chris Megerian (@ChrisMegerian) July 24, 2019

SCHIFF concludes the hearing with this: "Protecting the sanctity of our elections begins w/the recognition that accepting foreign help is disloyal to our country, unethical & wrong. We cannot control what the Russians do but we can decide what we do." pic.twitter.com/tzKJUx5iVi

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 24, 2019

The headlines speak for themselves:

The #MuellerHearing is going very badly for Donald Trump. pic.twitter.com/FUK8v30wPD

— Zac Petkanas (@Zac_Petkanas) July 24, 2019

Nadler got every Democrat to ask pertinent, focused questions and weave a narrative that put a devastating report on Trump's clear criminal behavior on live TV. Minimal time wasted on pontificating. Hats off.

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) July 24, 2019

Seeing almost zero mention of Trump’s unhinged rant shortly after the hearings ended.

A bunch of pundits & reporters think today was a nothingburger or worse for the Dems. It appears Donald Trump doesn’t agree. (One of those rare times Trump is right)

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) July 25, 2019

"We're hoping this will heighten the sense of urgency for a whole-of-government response to protect our democracy going forward." #RetweetTheReport #ProtectOurDemocracy #ForThePeople https://t.co/UNA6XBDpun

— diane #ForAll straub (@didikins4life) July 24, 2019

I think this represents some certainty that a lot of members aren't hearing anything about impeachment.

Call the Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and they can connect you to your Senator or House representative if you want impeachment proceedings to begin now. https://t.co/uvGhsAsaII

— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) July 24, 2019

Only 90+ Reps want impeachment. We need 218+. Please call YOUR Rep & YOUR Senators & tell them you want them to vote for impeachment or they lose your vote. Then call friends/fam and tell THEM to call. https://t.co/KmNjsBZ9Da

— thepolitical #BravenakDoesNotExonerate cat (@thepoliticalcat) July 24, 2019

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  1. 1.

    Patricia Kayden

    July 25, 2019 at 5:24 am

    I don’t see the harm in beginning the impeachment process and thus airing all of Trump’s dirty laundry before the American people but obviously Democratic leadership doesn’t appear to see things that way.

  2. 2.

    Tony Jay

    July 25, 2019 at 5:24 am

    The maddening thing, or rather the most maddening out of a whole host of things, is the obvious and crippling disparity in Media coverage of the Right vs the Left.

    Every problem for the Right is viewed through the lens of “Will this be a problem for X Right Wing politician with their supporters? If not, and it never is, then it’s not a story, so move on.”

    While every problem for the Left is viewed through the lens of “Will the Right be able to make this a problem for X Left Wing politician by lying about it? If so, and they always do, then it’s a story, so stay on it.”

    I know, I know, but it’s still infuriating.

  3. 3.

    JPL

    July 25, 2019 at 5:28 am

    The democratic members came prepared to show how the president obstructed justice, and the republicans ranted. We now know that facts don’t matter.

  4. 4.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    July 25, 2019 at 5:28 am

    @Patricia Kayden: I don’t know if it’s part of the House’s rules, but both the Nixon and Clinton impeachment referrals required a vote from the House.

  5. 5.

    p.a.

    July 25, 2019 at 5:59 am

    The long game is how the true reading of yesterday’s hearings stands up against the Fox/puke funnel spin that inundates the immediate aftermath, with the non-Fox-cult voting public.

  6. 6.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 25, 2019 at 6:04 am

    Tesla shares tumble amid $408m loss and another high-profile departure

    “Tesla struggles to fulfill its ambitious goals and promises on a long-term basis, and stumbles at logistical impediments despite huge advances in technology that keep consumers and investors interested,” said Alyssa Altman, a transportation lead at the digital consultancy Publicis Sapient. “To avoid a total car crash of the business in the next few years, Tesla needs to refocus its efforts from maintaining the appearance of a profitable and sustainable business model to actually delivering one.”

  7. 7.

    Quantumman

    July 25, 2019 at 7:46 am

    Thing that struck me the most was Mueller saying he fears foreign interference in our elections is the new norm. Cannot wait to see republican reaction when this helps Democrats.

  8. 8.

    sherparick

    July 25, 2019 at 8:30 am

    @Patricia Kayden: They are asking us to push them, to show that we have their backs. Call and write your Congress critter and Senator, Democrat or Republican, and let them know that you find evidence overwhelming that the current usurper in the White House is a criminal and traitor who daily spits on his oath of office; the living embodiment of “High Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

  9. 9.

    Bill Arnold

    July 25, 2019 at 8:46 am

    @Quantumman:

    Cannot wait to see republican reaction when this helps Democrats.

    Elections Invalidated!
    Seriously, the non-interference-of-the-interference moves by the Republicans seem intended to set up such a scenario for Nov 2020.

  10. 10.

    david

    July 25, 2019 at 9:06 am

    Remember those evil young Democrats who wanted a new House leader, and you all screamed, “NANCY SMASH!”?

    How’s that working out for you?

    It seems that she’s the one protecting the status quo more than anyone else on Capitol Hill.
    She’s passing meaningless legislation that is currently sitting in Mitch McConnell’s waste bin.
    She’s criticizing the Squad while also making sure the pro-Israel interests are dutifully serviced.
    She and Charles Schumer are protecting “the institution”, and NOT protecting the nation.

    Rome burns, and she’s making sure all the fiddles are properly tuned.

  11. 11.

    Bill Arnold

    July 25, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    @david:
    And you are attacking Democrats, and not offering any viable alternative strategies.

  12. 12.

    cain

    July 25, 2019 at 12:44 pm

    @david:
    And she’s probably looking at her caucus and seeing not enough votes. Maybe you should be focusing on House members who don’t want to impeach?

  13. 13.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    July 25, 2019 at 5:09 pm

    ..

  14. 14.

    J R in WV

    July 25, 2019 at 5:11 pm

    @david:

    Did you watch the hearings yesterday? Are you aware that there at least 6 standing committees holding investigations into various illegal activities on the part of the Executive branch?

    Did you hear former Special Prosecutor Mueller tell the nation, live, on TV before one of Nancy Pelosi’s committees that Trump’s actions were “Unethical and Immoral”…”Yes, and illegal”?

    Did you hear Mr Mueller tell various Representatives in Congress that his investigation did NOT exonerate Trump?

    Did you hear that Trump can be indicted once he leaves office?

    Nae, you didn’t hear any of that, you were too busy crying and whingeing about bad Nancy Speaker. Dumb-ass. Probably not a bot, certainly NOT a Democratic party member, though. From St. Petersburg? Maybe. The lies certainly sound Russian Army GRU style.

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