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I Have Many, Many Questions: Cosmetic Surgery Gone Awry Edition

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I realize that mine was done as part of a religious ritual when I was 8 days old, but I would think that if you’re chatting with the nurses and technicians while getting botox and you notice that they’re not giving you any injections in your face, but they are manipulating other tender portions of your anatomy, you might ask what exactly is going on!!!

A pensioner circumcised by mistake after going to a hospital for a procedure involving botox has been handed £20,000 compensation by the NHS.

Terry Brazier was given the procedure after medics at Leicester Royal Infirmary mixed up his notes.

Mr Brazier claims he was so distracted chatting to nurses he didn’t realise he was getting a different procedure until it was too late.

Speaking to the Daily Star he said: “I went in the surgery for some Botox and they ended up circumcising me.

“They didn’t know what to say when they found out they’d done it, they said they can’t send me back to the ward and they needed to talk to me.

“The nurse was at the side of me and we were talking so I didn’t know what was going on.

“It was a real surprise.”

Andrew Furlong, Medical Director at University Hospitals of Leicester, said: “We remain deeply and genuinely sorry that this mistake occurred, and I would like to take this opportunity to once again apologise to Mr Brazier.

“We take events like this very seriously and carried out a thorough investigation at the time to ensure that we learnt from this incident and do all we can to avoid it happening again.

“Whilst money can never undo what happened, we hope this payment provides some compensation.”

“When they found out they’d done it?”

What is that even supposed to mean? He got circumcised because the medical professionals working on him were undertaking sleep surgery? Because they went on break for a cuppa and a mohel just happened to walk by, had his bris kit with him, and decided to undertake an unscheduled bris?

I guess this could have been much, much worse given the area they actually wound up operating on, but really?

Remember to mark your body parts pre-op or risk an unhappy ending!

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  3. 3.

    randy khan

    The good news is that on this blog, “puppies and kittens” still leaves lots to talk about.

  7. 7.

    Wapiti

    Yeah, I went in for cataract surgery this morning, and everyone I contacted: receptionist, prep nurse, anesthesiologist, and a surgical nurse all asked me what eye they were working on. They put a black X on that side of my nose. All of that routine check apparently worked, because they replaced my lens and didn’t fiddle with my bits.

  8. 8.

    Jay

    If I were a journalist/worked in news, this is what I’d do rn:1. Interview actual experts on white supremacy & give them space (more than 2mins or lines) to educate the public on WS, what to look for. Often.2. Not frame white supremacy&racism as a “conflict” or “debate”… /1— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) August 5, 2019

    In case anyone is wondering: The number of phone calls and emails I have received today requesting my expertise on white nationalist terrorism from cable news and radio talk shows totals exactly zero.I will admit that it is much nicer just watching whales today. But. pic.twitter.com/rk33ofLhGr— David Neiwert (@DavidNeiwert) August 4, 2019

  11. 11.

    pacem appellant

    Botox is not uniformly applied to the face. It has medical (i.e. non-cosmetic) applications. So it is possible he was being numbed down there and that may not have been amiss.

  12. 12.

    SFAW

    @Jay:
    I’m waiting for the definitive tract from Hugh Hewitt and Jim Hoft on white supremacy. Because, frankly, without white privilege, they’d be homeless and destitute.

  13. 13.

    A Ghost To Most

    Quite the disclaimer, Adam. Have you thought of writing drug commercial side effect announcements? I listen to them more closely since I heard that a side effect of certain diabetes drugs is gangrene of the genitals.

  16. 16.

    Steeplejack

    Yeah, I have to laugh. Last Thursday I had to tell my name and DOB to about 50 people all through the day (even though I was wearing a wrist tag), point to the three highly visible lesions on my skin for multiple people and then have the final pre-op nurse mark dotted lines around all three. Came through with my junk intact!

    Seriously, the precautions seem ridiculous, but they really are necessary. I used to edit a group of hospital medical publications, and some of the “this is why we do this” stories were awful. How about amputating the wrong leg?

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @SFAW:

    I’m waiting for the definitive tract from Hugh Hewitt and Jim Hoft on white supremacy.

    I don’t know what Jim Hoft looks like, but Hugh Hewitt is so white he’s nearly translucent. White supremacy? He’s soaking in it.

  23. 23.

    Mnemosyne

    * off-limits

    Please, like I was supposed to ignore that slow pitch down the middle of the plate.

    Day Three of my vacation involved taking my teenage niece on a tour of the Jelly Belly factory. It was about as high quality as you would expect of a free tour, but at least we got free candy out of it. And I also have WAY too many bags of Jelly Bellies from their company store.

  24. 24.

    Adam L Silverman

    Speaking of medical procedures going awry!
    https://www.theroot.com/pro-basketball-player-suspended-after-drug-test-reveale-1836974861

    Former Ohio University standout Donell “D.J.” Cooper was trying to catch on with a team overseas when a drug test revealed that he was pregnant.

    Apparently, Cooper used his girlfriend’s urine to try to skirt a drug test and learned in bizarre fashion that the couple was expecting. Cooper was given a two-year suspension after he submitted his lady’s pee for a drug test and said test revealed that she was with child.

    According to Yahoo, Cooper has been balling overseas and was attempting “to join the Bosnian national team as a naturalized player” in 2018.

    His drug test, according to Eurohoops.net, revealed that he was pregnant.

    From Yahoo:

    The test on the urine that Cooper provided revealed the presence of human chorionic gonadotropin, or hCG, which is a hormone made by the placenta during pregnancy.

    That urine, per the report, actually belonged to his girlfriend—who likely didn’t know she was pregnant at the time.

    The International Basketball Federation, which goes by the acronym FIBA— which absolutely makes no sense—suspended Cooper for fraud. He’s eligible to return to the court on June 20, 2020.

  25. 25.

    TaMara (HFG)

    Speaking of birthdays, I’m looking at blowing my birthday cash on a Nikon COOLPIX P900 Digital Camera with 83x Optical Zoom. I need something relatively lightweight for hiking, but that can get those bird*/moose/bear shots from a safe distance.

    I may regret asking, but anyone have any opinions on cameras?

    * You never know when those Rocky Mtn Blue Birds are going to attack.

  26. 26.

    TaMara (HFG)

    @Adam L Silverman: Funny story, my niece had submitted a urine sample for a job interview drug test (in law enforcement) and found out she was pregnant the same way. Not so funny, they wouldn’t hire her because she was pregnant – she won that legal battle.

  28. 28.

    Adam L Silverman

    @BruceFromOhio: @Mnemosyne: This is actually me making a smartass joke over something that happened in comments to one of BettyC’s posts earlier today that included a commenter, who was called out by another commenter, respond with “this is an open thread”.

  29. 29.

    delk

    I’m having hip replacement surgery next Wednesday. They both need replacing so if they do the wrong one it’s not a terribly bad thing.

  30. 30.

    Jay

    @Bill Arnold:

    My Mom was double jointed. Her favorite “stunt” when she was in hospital, was to wait for a surgury or procedure, then tuck the lower leg under the upper leg, pretend to be groggy when a nurse was checking on her,

    Then start screaming “where’s my leg!!!!!!!!”.

    Because of Hospital Food, I always brought Mom trays of fresh baked cinnamon rolls, trays of lasagna, baby back ribs, smoked salmon, wood fired thin crust pizza, and Mom shared that with Staff and Patients.

    So, nurses and doctors who had experience the joke, “ shared it” with other staff by exposing them to it.

  33. 33.

    Jeffro

    Are we sure this operation wasn’t carried out under the watchful eye of Floriduh (Surgeon) Man? It seems like it would be his kind of wackiness

  34. 34.

    The Dangerman

    ….but they are manipulating other tender portions of your anatomy, you might ask what exactly is going on!!!

    Could have been just a very friendly hospital.

  35. 35.

    SFAW

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I don’t know what Jim Hoft looks like, but Hugh Hewitt is so white he’s nearly translucent. White supremacy? He’s soaking in it.

    Hoft, a/k/a “The Stupidest Man on the Internet,” looks like this

    And Hugh Hewitt has not been nicknamed “Ambulatory Cream Cheese Sculpture” for nothing..

  38. 38.

    James E Powell

    Last Friday night I saw Blondie and Elvis Costello at Pechanga Casino in Temecula, California. For the first song of Blondie’s encore, Debbie Harry sang the theme song from “From Russia With Love” and as she began the last verse the three huge screens behind her displayed the presidential seal. It got scattered recognition and some cheers and applause. This part of California is Trump Country. Retired military and rednecks. I wonder if Debbie Harry knew that.

  39. 39.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Mnemosyne:

    A surprisingly delicious three-flavour Jelly Belly combo is Espresso, Banana, and Marshmallow. I used to get them in bulk at Target, but they stopped carrying JB several years ago.

  40. 40.

    Ken

    @delk: I don’t think the prosthetics are interchangable, so just hope that they have both left- and right-handed versions in stock.

  45. 45.

    Adam L Silverman

    @BruceFromOhio: Honestly, as long as we’re not getting snuff fantasy comments or their equivalent, I really don’t care what you all talk about.

  46. 46.

    SFAW

    @delk:

    I’m having hip replacement surgery next Wednesday. They both need replacing so if they do the wrong one it’s not a terribly bad thing.

    Yeah, you’re joking about it now, but when you wake up and your feet are pointing the backwards, don’t come crying to us.

    Had mine done about 11 years ago, glad I did. Good luck for your surgery, I hope things go well.

    One other thing: “PCA morphine” is a good thing.

  50. 50.

    BruceFromOhio

    @Adam L Silverman: Thank you for all that you do for this site. I appreciate your posts and that you stick around in the comments and engage in pleasant and learned discourse. I’ve learned so much from your writings, a simple “Thank you” is wholly inadequate but it’s all I got at this time. So, thank you.

    And now I’m out.

  54. 54.

    Don K

    @Wapiti:

    Yes, any time I’ve had a procedure everyone, including the surgeon, confirms with me what exactly it is I’m expecting them to do, ensuring that we’re all on the same page. No problems so far, i.e., any body parts I’m missing were fully expected by me.

  55. 55.

    CaseyL

    @Bill Arnold: That is one handsome fella. How was teaching him kitty combat a mistake? Does he now insist on boxing with you regularly?

    @delk: He won’t be able to frown until puberty.*

    *I’m assuming the other patient was the usual age for circumcision; i.e., an infant. Which really ought to have been another clue for the operating team!

  56. 56.

    SFAW

    @chopper:

    it’s by far the first thing i thought of, so we’re both fossils.

    I, on the other hand, first thought of a certain joke having to do with a change purse.

  61. 61.

    chopper

    @HinTN:

    yeah i remember that famous show when iggy circumcised himself onstage. was in the middle of “search and destroy” if i remember correctly.

  62. 62.

    SFAW

    @HinTN:

    I guess I’m too old, I expected the stooges.

    Well, the “poifect” get me going that way, too, for about a second, but then I thought about the subject matter, and my remaining braim cells redirected me to SNL.

  63. 63.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @SFAW:

    Hoft, a/k/a “The Stupidest Man on the Internet,” looks like this

    Indeed, he does look stupid. Walking around with your tongue ever so slightly protruding will do that.

  64. 64.

    Jay

    @CaseyL:

    There’s a bunch of health issues with a hood, mostly because many wipple cis het men are feral hogs,

    And drug resistant STD’s are epidemic in “Retirement” communities.

  66. 66.

    prostratedragon

    * This is, indeed, an open thread. However, we would like you to not attack each other over the correct or incorrect application of insults to politicians, reporters, and/or other commenters. Also, please no correcting the grammar, syntax, and/or spelling in this post or any of the comments. Complaining about the weather is also off limit. In fact, just to be safe, we’d like you to just talk about puppies and kittens. Thanks, the Management

    A new rubric for the header?

  68. 68.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @SFAW:

    And Hugh Hewitt has not been nicknamed “Ambulatory Cream Cheese Sculpture” for nothing..

    Didn’t Betty Cracker dream up that soubriquet? It is perfect.

  69. 69.

    Jay

    Trump, Cruz, & Cassidy's threats to criminalize dissent with a "domestic terrorist" designation serves the additional purpose of riling up their far-right base for scripted violence. Read our statement here: https://t.co/rhJIcoqfRS— Always Antifascist (@RoseCityAntifa) August 6, 2019

  70. 70.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Jay:

    Because of Hospital Food, I always brought Mom trays of fresh baked cinnamon rolls, trays of lasagna, baby back ribs, smoked salmon, wood fired thin crust pizza, and Mom shared that with Staff and Patients.

    Can I be your new Mom?

  72. 72.

    SFAW

    @Amir Khalid:

    I was considering pointing that out, also. But considering du sprichst Deutsch besser als ich, it’s better that you did it.

    [I sure hope I got my word order correct, but I don’t know]

    ETA: I bet I should have flipped the order of “sprichst Deutsch”

  74. 74.

    Jay

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    It’s a hard role to fill. She smuggled race records into Canada, raised money for the International Brigaides, was a featured dancer ( to get people out onto the Dance Floor), was the first Female Manager in Alberta, and married a Cop, ( in violation of RCMP rules) 8 years her junior.

  75. 75.

    chopper

    @SFAW:

    to be fair, iggy pop used to cut himself during shows, usually with a blade. back in the day at least. not like gg allen level stuff or anything, mind you.

  79. 79.

    AThornton

    Puppies and kittens it is ….

    Hark! Hark! The dogs do bark,
    the Duke is fond of kittens.
    He loves to turn them inside out
    and use them for his mittens.

  80. 80.

    SRW1

    @SFAW:

    You did quite OK. If there would be anything to flip, it would merely be for emphasis (‘besser’):

    Du sprichst besser Deutsch als ich.

  81. 81.

    Mnemosyne

    So apparently injecting Botox into the wall of the bladder via the urethra is a common treatment for urinary incontinence, so this story doesn’t sound quite as fishy — he was expecting them to be rummaging around with his junk but they did the wrong procedure.

  87. 87.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @TaMara (HFG): Here’s the CNet Review. Short version: Overall, not a bad camera; downsides are that it doesn’t shoot RAW*(which is ok if you get exposure and white balance right), it seems like it’s resolution at the highest zoom isn’t the best and it’s auto focus is slow in low light. Folk on Amazon seemed to like it even with those limitations.

    *I shoot RAW all the time since it’s saved any number of shots and is really essential for astro work. But, then again, I have Lightroom running on my computer all the time.

  88. 88.

    scav

    Speaking of Yahoos

    The International Basketball Federation, which goes by the acronym FIBA— which absolutely makes no sense—

    maybe they need to get out of the country more before attempting cute comments in international news: fédération internationale de basketball does seem rather obvious.

    Ha! And probably exactly what was explicitly verboten by Adam, especially as no felines were involved.

  89. 89.

    trollhattan

    On the one hand probably the first time anybody paid any notice to his stick-n-berries in a couple decades, on the other hand he’s awfully old to tackle all the lessons required for his impending bar mitzvah.

  90. 90.

    Bill Arnold

    @CaseyL:

    How was teaching him kitty combat a mistake? Does he now insist on boxing with you regularly?

    Non-native predator, taught him to catch things effortlessly. Bad for the local rodent wildlife within 50 feet of the house. Hasn’t killed birds but I fear for the hummingbirds. (He was catching dragonflies and bringing them inside for a week, then got bored with them.) To be clear, live in a semi-rural area, slow cars and only the occasional noisy nighttime coyotes (“eaters of cats”) to worry about.

  91. 91.

    trollhattan

    @TaMara (HFG):
    Birding with a fixed lens prosumer camera is…ambitious. Don’t chase gaudy zoom ranges when selecting one–a fast, sharp reasonably long lens > than a really long but slow one. Atmospheric conditions and light conspire against good results at huge magnifications. My $0.02.

  92. 92.

    Steve in the ATL

    please no correcting the grammar, syntax, and/or spelling in this post or any of the comments

    Obviously I am no longer welcome here.

    Goodbye, cruel blog!

  93. 93.

    Amir Khalid

    @SFAW:
    I don’t know about that myself. I think it depends on whether you treat that bit of German as a sentence quoted in isolation, or as a subordinate clause within the English sentence.

  95. 95.

    columbusqueen

    @Mnemosyne: All I keep thinking is how much could this dude still be getting it up, really? At this point, does said mistake matter?

  96. 96.

    The Lodger

    You can tell it’s a kosher procedure if there’s a bris kit involved.
    (great way to get to the meat of the matter, Adam.)
    (OK, I’ll stop. I really am more than 10 years old.)

  100. 100.

    Adam L Silverman

    @The Lodger: What does the mohel use at a ritual circumcision? A bris kit. What do you serve at the reception afterwards? A brisket.

  105. 105.

    JaySinWA

    This is, indeed, an open thread. However, we would like you to not attack each other over the correct or incorrect application of insults to politicians, reporters, and/or other commenters. Also, please no correcting the grammar, syntax, and/or spelling in this post or any of the comments. Complaining about the weather is also off limit. In fact, just to be safe, we’d like you to just talk about puppies and kittens. Thanks, the Management

    You ain’t the boss of me.

  108. 108.

    M. Bouffant

    January, 1971, in a hospital in Houston, the late afternoon before I’m to have a varicose vein stripped. Buncha intern/resident types stop by to check me out before the cutting begins. These guys (& they were all guys) seem more interested in my scrotum than my leg. I told them that there wasn’t going to be any activity in that area tomorrow, & like the entitled idiot pricks they were, they essentially ignored me. After I was a little more insistent, they checked the paperwork, & realized that my doctor was the also-surgeon brother (runs in the family) of the croaker for whom they were flunkying.

  110. 110.

    JCJ

    @Adam L Silverman: Another possibility for a positive hCG test is testicular cancer. Unless he fessed up and his girlfriend’s pregnancy was confirmed it would be imperative to rule out a germ cell tumor.

  111. 111.

    pacem appellant

    @Adam L Silverman: I am only taking issue with the patient not being aware of the error until it too late. The article does not specify the procedure the patient was having done. It is possible the procedure he intended was not Botox for the face, but instead for some other part which would have required prep or local anesthetization “under the gown”. That would not have alerted him that to the error in the intended procedure.

  112. 112.

    BigJimSlade

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: camera stuff – TaMara is considering, “Nikon COOLPIX P900 Digital Camera with 83x Optical Zoom” … and tentatively asked for recommendations. Unless you just meant to disavow knowledge in general ;-)

  113. 113.

    mrmoshpotato

    “Doctor, the patient is under.”
    “Ok. Now, remind me, are we injecting venom into his face, or cutting off the tip of his penis?”

  115. 115.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    Crazy as it sounds, I find the story believable, assuming:
    1) there was *someone* scheduled for a circumcision (or a coding mistake had occurred), and
    2) this poor fellow was at the wrong place at the right time (if it was a coding mistake, then it was the right wrong place, but still the wrong place!)

    I mean, seriously, try to imagine yourself as part of the support staff for an adult circumcision Would you not try to be pleasantly distracting, would you not try your best to have the procedure completed with minimal information provided, and would you not be *really* proud if someone said “wow, it’s over? I didn’t even realize you were ready to start cutting me there”?

    Once you assume the horrible scenario – a fellow scheduled for a botox injection is unknowingly showing up where an adult circumcision is scheduled – that it happened quickly, with minimal fuss actually makes more sense than any other scenario. And if so, it shows the importance of demanding procedural frankness from all medical personnel – if the patient says botox, don’t laugh, just say “um, is that after the circumcision? Because that’s what’s on the schedule, and if that’s not right, tell me now!”

  116. 116.

    Sloane Ranger

    See, this is what happens when you have socialised medicine//.

    Seriously, yeah, when I went in for my hip replacement (on the NHS), the consultant popped in to see me, confirmed with me that he would be working on my left hip and, for the avoidance of confusion, marked the spot with a big X.

  117. 117.

    SFAW

    @mrmoshpotato:

    “Doctor, the patient is under.”
    “Ok. Now, remind me, are we injecting venom into his face, or cutting off the tip of his penis?”

    “Doctor, por que no los dos?”

  118. 118.

    SFAW

    @SRW1:
    Danke vielmals!

    [I have no idea if “vielmals” is in the common parlance these days. It’s something I used to hear my father say.]

  119. 119.

    Searcher

    So in addition to marking which limb needs to be amputated, before any surgery you just probably should scribble “DNE” on your junk just to be safe.

  120. 120.

    PST

    I’m late to this, but I looked up the story about the Botox patient. He was having a cystoscopy preparatory to injecting Botox into the walls of his bladder to control incontinence. For those who have not had the pleasure, a cystoscopy involves running a catheter through the urethra with a light an little camera to peek around the inside of the bladder. Chatting with the staff is one of the best ways to ignore what’s happening and get through the whole unpleasantness. So I honestly can imagine how this poor guy failed to notice.

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