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You are here: Home / Open Threads / The President Speaks

The President Speaks

by Betty Cracker|  August 5, 20196:41 pm| 86 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Proud to Be A Democrat

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Since we heard from fake President Snorty McTeleprompter earlier today about the recent massacres, how about a word from the last actual American president?

The statement was released via President Obama’s Twitter account earlier today. This part:

“We should soundly reject language coming out of the mouths of any of our leaders that feeds a climate of fear and hatred or normalizes racist sentiments; leaders who demonize those who don’t look like us, or suggest that other people, including immigrants, threaten our way of life, or refer to other people as sub-human, or imply that America belongs to just one certain type of people.

I’m pretty sure that’s as angry as we’ve ever heard him.

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    TenguPhule

    August 5, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    Manu Raju
    ‏
    Verified account

    @mkraju
    Follow Follow @mkraju
    More Manu Raju Retweeted Leah Millis
    Trump appears to have ad-libbed “Toledo”Manu Raju added,

    Leah Millis

    @LeahMillis
    U.S. President Donald Trump accidentally says “Toledo” while making remarks this morning about the recent shootings in Dayton, OH and El Paso, TX from a teleprompter that reads “Texas and Ohio”. #Toledo #daytonshooting #Dayton #ElPaso #Trump …
    Show this thread
    1:37 PM – 5 Aug 2019

    So whoever said that Trump’s aides were putting him on meds to stop him from ad-libbing were wrong. The drugs didn’t stop him.

  2. 2.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 5, 2019 at 6:45 pm

    fake President Snorty McTeleprompter

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

    Betty, you outdo yourself with every new Trump-directed invective.

  3. 3.

    Mike in NC

    August 5, 2019 at 6:49 pm

    He’s a sick, sick fuck. Fortunately, everybody we’ve met so far in the wonderful UK hates Boris Johnson as much as we despise Fat Bastard.

  4. 4.

    Cheryl Rofer

    August 5, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    He really was doing some big sniffs in this one.

  5. 5.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 6:51 pm

    I just saw for the first time a 45-second clip of Trump around the “Toledo” moment. Holy shit, he sounds fucked up and he looks high.

  6. 6.

    moonbat

    August 5, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    That compassionate, intelligent, and reasonably angry man. He is my president and I miss him so much.

  7. 7.

    Chip Daniels

    August 5, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    Every time I hear one of the Obamas speak, or read their words, I feel a pang of grief for what we have lost, and could have had still.

  8. 8.

    Jharp

    August 5, 2019 at 6:56 pm

    God I miss him.

    I’d have to say the biggest political shock of my 5 plus decades is Americans elected that know nothing racist piece of human garbage.

    The most qualified candidate in the history of the United States ran against the least qualified candidate in the history of the United States.

    And we picked the least qualified…. … by negative 3 million votes.

    History is not going to be kind to any of us.

    We need to try harder.

  9. 9.

    debbie

    August 5, 2019 at 6:56 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    He couldn’t even get the fucking name right. That is how much he cares. Does anyone know when his next rally is? I wonder how long it will take him to go back to “invasions” and “infestations.”

  10. 10.

    AThornton

    August 5, 2019 at 6:57 pm

    PRC announced they are halting all purchases of US agricultural products and let the yuan slide to an all time low. One non-obvious result is the US is now massively over-priced in the military drone market. Thus the Chinese lead in capturing the market for the next generation weapon systems continues apace.

    So much winning.

  11. 11.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 5, 2019 at 6:59 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: SNORT! Apologies to the power shovel. It’s not a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, Soviet shitpile mobster conman.

  12. 12.

    namekarB

    August 5, 2019 at 7:00 pm

    If only Obama would come out in support of the right to bear arms and the elimination of all background checks, Trump would have done a 180 and pushed for restrictions on gun sales and universal background checks.

  13. 13.

    debbie

    August 5, 2019 at 7:00 pm

    @AThornton:

    And the futures are already worse than they were this morning. Mr. Genius Tariff Man!

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 5, 2019 at 7:03 pm

    @debbie: In Pennsylvania later this week.

  15. 15.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 7:03 pm

    Okay, some comic relief. Boris Johnson on his hobbies:

    This is truly weird. Boris Johnson, likely the next Prime Minister of the UK, gets asked what he likes to do in his free time, to relax. Watch what he says … it's so bizarre that it's mesmerizing. Via @talkRADIO pic.twitter.com/aXp5hmCMVg

    — Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) June 25, 2019

    And some good remixes:

    the room next door pic.twitter.com/EoTO3jUTEo

    — Michael Spicer (@MrMichaelSpicer) June 25, 2019

    “To relax I get two potatoes and make them into Thatcher and Cameron and make them dance.” #janeygodleyvoiceover #BorisJohnson come see the Live Voice Over on tour https://t.co/y2Wa2KaK5a for tickets pic.twitter.com/PCB1jy9tYQ

    — Janey Godley (@JaneyGodley) June 25, 2019

  16. 16.

    debbie

    August 5, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    I did not know about this tweet from Tim Ryan.

    Toledo. Fck me.— Tim Ryan (@TimRyan) August 5, 2019

    But I’m glad to see he thanked President Obama.

    Thank you, Mr. President. https://t.co/eun87qzlXE— Tim Ryan (@TimRyan) August 5, 2019

    Nice contrast.

  17. 17.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Moderation! Help, please.

  18. 18.

    MJS

    August 5, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    @TenguPhule: I don’t think it was an ad lib. I think our near illiterate president ran “Texas” and “Ohio” together and came up with “Toledo”. Drugs plus a barely functional reading ability.

  19. 19.

    debbie

    August 5, 2019 at 7:08 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Thanks. I’ll have to watch for it.

  20. 20.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 5, 2019 at 7:09 pm

    @Steeplejack: I think I freed it. If it doesn’t show up, please repost.

  21. 21.

    (((CassandraLeo)))

    August 5, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    Great statement from the last legitimate president of this country. I still find myself wanting to hear from Luther, his anger translator, though.

  22. 22.

    rp

    August 5, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    @MJS: that’s…plausible.

  23. 23.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    God, Tweety is flapping his gums with Kamala Harris about the NRA like they’re still all-powerful. Referenced some senator from his distant past who got nuked by them. I didn’t even remember the guy! I know the NRA is not quite dead yet, but the ground has shifted. Matthews has not.

  24. 24.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Thanks! It appears to be showing up now. I think it had too many links. I’m always nervous about excising them from embedded tweets.

  25. 25.

    Miss Bianca

    August 5, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: How did I know, even before clicking on your link: “You are not my mother! You are a SNORT!”

    My favorite line ever from a kid’s book.

  26. 26.

    Jay

    August 5, 2019 at 7:14 pm

    Important thread on The Base, an ultramilitaristic neo-nazi group with similar imagery and tactics as Atomwaffen. Recruitment posters for The Base have been spotted in Canada. https://t.co/WTb7nnKUMp— Yellow Vests Canada Exposed ? (@VestsCanada) August 5, 2019

  27. 27.

    Wapiti

    August 5, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    @Steeplejack: Dr. Ronny Jackson’s duties as Chief Medical Advisor pusher continue to bear results….

  28. 28.

    Adam L Silverman

    August 5, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    @Steeplejack: No worries.

  29. 29.

    Jay

    August 5, 2019 at 7:16 pm

    @Jay:

    Stuck in moderation.

  30. 30.

    dww44

    August 5, 2019 at 7:16 pm

    @debbie: Read those tweets, but also saw one that mentions that Biden referred to El Paso as Houston, and Ohio became Michigan. Supposedly said at a fund raiser in San Diego on the weekend. Did he really?

  31. 31.

    Miss Bianca

    August 5, 2019 at 7:16 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: So, hypothetical question…particularly since Trump has a habit of stiffing the cities who host these events for their security costs…can’t a municipality just tell the POSUS and the Secret Service, “forget it, pal, if you want to spread your shit in our town, you’re on your own”?

  32. 32.

    Spanky

    August 5, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    @Jharp: What the fuck is this “we” shit? It was Russian interference, top to bottom. And in the end I’m pretty sure we’ll find at least three states with changed vote tallies.

  33. 33.

    Jay

    August 5, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    If you're wondering how white supremacist ideas get normalized and perpetuated throughout mainstream culture, look no further than libertarian pundit John Stossel promoting white supremacist Stefan Molyneux two days after a white supremacist massacre pic.twitter.com/9tjY3U0Gsy— Becca Lewis (@beccalew) August 5, 2019

  34. 34.

    geg6

    August 5, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    In my back yard, so to speak. He’ll be about a mile from my campus and about two miles from my house. Coming to the new Shell cracker plant to try to take credit for it. Which is, of course, a lie. This was in the works for the last seven or eight years. But the goobers around here are beside themselves for joy that that piece of shit will be polluting my county. I’m just ill at the thought he will be in my proximity.

  35. 35.

    Spanky

    August 5, 2019 at 7:19 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    I know the NRA is not quite dead yet, but the ground has shifted. Matthews has not.

    Check for an onion in his belt.

  36. 36.

    Aleta

    August 5, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    @Steeplejack: omg. His spare time is spent on the unspeakable? Or he simply drinks himself to oblivion every night when the door closes.

  37. 37.

    Baud

    August 5, 2019 at 7:22 pm

    @AThornton:

    One non-obvious result is the US is now massively over-priced in the military drone market. Thus the Chinese lead in capturing the market for the next generation weapon systems continues apace.

    Donald the Dove!

  38. 38.

    Spanky

    August 5, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    @Aleta: My guess is Sundown Syndrome.

    ETA: On the rocks.

  39. 39.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 5, 2019 at 7:25 pm

    @Steeplejack: God, Tweety is flapping his gums with Kamala Harris about the NRA like they’re still all-powerful. Referenced some senator from his distant past who got nuked by them.

    Harris Wofford? IIRC he was appointed to replace John Heinz.

    I don’t know why any Dems go on that show

    ETA: If it was Wofford, he wasn’t exactly nuked, from Wiki
    Wofford narrowly lost his 1994 bid for a full term to Republican Rep. Rick Santorum, thirty-two years his junior, who defeated Wofford 49%–47%.[24] The election was part of that year’s Republican Revolution, in which many Democrats were ousted from both houses of the United States Congress.[24]

  40. 40.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 7:28 pm

    @dww44:

    And Obama said “57 states”! I’m seeing that one a lot. ?

  41. 41.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 7:29 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    Or I was thinking: “Give us a certified check for a deposit equal to the expected expenses and you’re good to go.”

  42. 42.

    Argiope

    August 5, 2019 at 7:30 pm

    @Miss Bianca: We’ve called all orange heavy equipment “snorts” in my family since about 1975. 3 generations now inculcated.

  43. 43.

    TS (the original)

    August 5, 2019 at 7:31 pm

    @Chip Daniels:

    I feel a pang of grief for what we have lost, and could have had still

    Not to mention what he could have achieved – except for #MoscowMitch and the deplorables who voted against their own health care

  44. 44.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 5, 2019 at 7:33 pm

    So… I saw Feral Hogs trending on twitter, and I thought it might be a light-hearted diversion

    ason Isbell @ JasonIsbell
    · Aug 4, 2019
    If you’re on here arguing the definition of “assault weapon” today you are part of the problem. You know what an assault weapon is, and you know you don’t need one.
    @ WillieMcNabb
    Legit question for rural Americans – How do I kill the 30-50 feral hogs that run into my yard within 3-5 mins while my small kids play?

    One does wonder, just how often Farmer McNabb has to gun down the hordes of hogs?

    (GQ reached out to McNabb for comment and will update this post when we hear back.)

  45. 45.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 5, 2019 at 7:33 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Do you know Go Dog Go? The dogs coming out of the maze look haunted. What horrible thing did they see in that maze?

  46. 46.

    Miss Bianca

    August 5, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Man, somehow that one was not the classic in my household that “Are You My Mother?” was. But now…now I can see I will have to revisit “Go Dog Go.” For research purposes.

  47. 47.

    Arlene

    August 5, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    @Steeplejack Tweety referenced Joe Clark who I believe was defeated by Scweiker either in 1968 or 1972. I live in Pennsylvania and haven’t heard his name in years. Tweety needs to retire.

  48. 48.

    Martin

    August 5, 2019 at 7:38 pm

    @Steeplejack: Californian politicians lost their fear of the NRA a while ago. And the anti abortion morality cosplayers.

  49. 49.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 5, 2019 at 7:39 pm

    My President is trending on twitter, so The Beast will be in a foul mood even before he sits down to his nightly diet of, I imagine, four to six hours of Tivo’d Fox spew

  50. 50.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 5, 2019 at 7:41 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Bears In The Night :) Up Spook Hill!

  51. 51.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    August 5, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    we need to investigate the oranges of the Toledo and Bowling Green massacres.

    Now, watch this drive…

  52. 52.

    joel hanes

    August 5, 2019 at 7:44 pm

    @Argiope:

    My family too.

    “You are not my mother! You are a SNORT!”

  53. 53.

    joel hanes

    August 5, 2019 at 7:45 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    I will have to revisit “Go Dog Go.”

    Do you like my hat?

  54. 54.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 7:46 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    It wasn’t Wofford. I remember him. It was someone from even farther back. Matthews might even have said “when I was a kid,” but I was too busy doing a spit-take to hear it exactly. It was some bland name like Stevens.

  55. 55.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 7:49 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    See below.

    @Arlene:

    Yes! Joe Clark. Thank you.

    ETA: That was 50 fucking years ago! Just retire, Tweety.

  56. 56.

    debbie

    August 5, 2019 at 7:50 pm

    @dww44:

    It’s been reported that he did. Two grumpy old white men.

  57. 57.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 5, 2019 at 7:50 pm

    From my visit to the cemetery yesterday…and your little dog Toto too!

  58. 58.

    gwangung

    August 5, 2019 at 7:53 pm

    @Steeplejack: Like so many second and third raters, two or three steps behind the times, regurgitating old wisdom that’s beyond it’s expiration date.

  59. 59.

    Another Scott

    August 5, 2019 at 7:53 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Forbes (from 2016):

    * Trump may have repeated head trauma: Blows to the head via sports such as football, boxing, soccer and ice hockey, or hitting your head with a brick over beauty pageant winners gaining weight, can cause irritation and even leakage of brain fluid into the nasal passages.

    Could be!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  60. 60.

    Miss Bianca

    August 5, 2019 at 8:01 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: You should forward that on to Loomis at LGM for his “Eric Visits An American Grave” series. //

  61. 61.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 5, 2019 at 8:05 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Heh, it’s probably hard to read the text, but that’s not where Toto(real name Terry) is buried. When she died in 1945, her trainer buried her at his place in Studio City, in 1958 the Ventura Freeway went though the trainer’s place. I’ve driven over Toto’s final resting place many times(mostly without knowing it).

  62. 62.

    Sloane Ranger

    August 5, 2019 at 8:09 pm

    So, the Racist in Chief is apparently visiting El Paso later this week, presumably landing them with a new bill for his security, with the previous one still unpaid.

    CNN reports that people there are angry and don’t want him there. The Mayor sounded very dismissive of people’s objections, talking about emails and messages from people with to much time on their hands. Not particularly impressed by him, is he a Republican?

  63. 63.

    Doug R

    August 5, 2019 at 8:10 pm

    @(((CassandraLeo))):

    Great statement from the last legitimate president of this country. I still find myself wanting to hear from Luther, his anger translator, though.

    Just for you:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6NfRMv-4OY

  64. 64.

    zhena gogolia

    August 5, 2019 at 8:12 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Just saw the dog the other night in Bright Eyes, in which she’s called Rags.

  65. 65.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 5, 2019 at 8:20 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Yup, just checked out Bright Eyes over at IMDB, it was her first film. Looks like Terry only made it to 11 years, that’s pretty young for a small dog.

  66. 66.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 8:21 pm

    @Doug R:

    Oh, great! I hadn’t seen that one.

  67. 67.

    zhena gogolia

    August 5, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Too bad. She was very talented.

  68. 68.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 5, 2019 at 8:47 pm

    This post seems like a good place to put this.

    Moose powering through deep snow pic.twitter.com/wMjzcX02J7— 41 Strange (@41Strange) April 5, 2019

  69. 69.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 9:16 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Weird and cool.

  70. 70.

    Ella in New Mexico

    August 5, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    He really was doing some big sniffs in this one

    He also had a REALLY dry mouth today. After a weekend of relaxing and golfing he looked tired and out of it, not refreshed.

    Dry mouth/mucous membranes, fuzzy thinking and fatigue. I think he’s on dementia meds–they cause those kinds of side effects.

  71. 71.

    Ella in New Mexico

    August 5, 2019 at 9:36 pm

    @Sloane Ranger:

    CNN reports that people there are angry and don’t want him there.

    I’d wager 75% of El Pasoens didn’t want him there BEFORE the shooting, now they want him even less.

    The Mayor sounded very dismissive of people’s objections, talking about emails and messages from people with to much time on their hands. Not particularly impressed by him, is he a Republican?

    Dee Margo is a Republican but coming from El Paso, he’s been a pretty moderate one. Sounds like his version of “Cumbaya” to keep everyone happy.

  72. 72.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 5, 2019 at 9:44 pm

    I want to like Joe Biden. Sometimes I think he doesn’t want me to like him

    Matt Viser @ mviser
    Joe Biden says that video games are part of the problem. “It is not healthy having these games teaching kids this dispassionate notion you can…blow their brains out,” he says. He adds, “It’s not in and of itself why we have this climate.”

    ETA: Apparent correction, other people are tweeting that this was taken out of context and Biden was saying that games are a bullshit excuse offered by other people. He “rolled his eyes” while quoting trump

  73. 73.

    The Lodger

    August 5, 2019 at 9:48 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m getting a Tipper Gore vibe from this.

  74. 74.

    MisterForkbeard

    August 5, 2019 at 9:54 pm

    @dww44: He did, but corrected himself shortly thereafter.

  75. 75.

    J R in WV

    August 5, 2019 at 10:02 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    And Obama said “57 states”! I’m seeing that one a lot. ?

    Yes, he said that, and was referring to the 50 states and 7 territories, as in American Samoa, Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, etc, etc.

  76. 76.

    Jeffro

    August 5, 2019 at 10:06 pm

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: There is SO much inside baseball in that one sentence. Well done. :)

  77. 77.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 5, 2019 at 10:08 pm

    @Jeffro: one might almost say it requires being aware of all internet traditions

  78. 78.

    Steeplejack

    August 5, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    @J R in WV:

    He made a mistake! Both sides!

  79. 79.

    trnc

    August 5, 2019 at 10:34 pm

    @J R in WV: That’s what I thought at first, but there are 14 American territories. 5 of them are inhabited, so 57 just doesn’t work unless there are 2 other entities that would fit the general theme.

    Regardless, the Bodines of the world earnestly claiming that Obama actually didn’t know how many states are in the US is only done entirely in bad faith, so fuck them.

  80. 80.

    japa21

    August 5, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    @trnc: Primaries. The 50 states, 5 territories, DC and Americans abroad.

  81. 81.

    Bill Arnold

    August 5, 2019 at 10:50 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    mouth/mucous membranes, fuzzy thinking and fatigue. I think he’s on dementia meds–they cause those kinds of side effects.

    I’m failure sure as well that he’s medicated to compensate for cognitive decline, but it may be crude self-medication. Hard to tell. Watched the full address, and it could be something basic like (snorted) Add er all plus a beta blocker.
    (Which would mentally burn him out quicker at his age if it was a habit.)

    Who the F wrote this speech? KAC? Weird gaslighting shit. Don’t let up; he and other Republicans are in part responsible for the recent US mass murders by racists.
    President Trump Address on Mass Shootings – President Trump addressed the nation following two mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio. (August 5, 2019)

  82. 82.

    trnc

    August 5, 2019 at 10:59 pm

    @japa21:

    Primaries. The 50 states, 5 territories, DC and Americans abroad.

    No, he just misspoke because he was tired. I found the quote, and it pretty clearly is not meant to include territories:

    “… it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in fifty …. seven states? I think one left to go.”

    He also acknowledged the mistake later on, rather than try to shoehorn in some bullshit excuse. Once again, my respect for the last real president ticks up another notch.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/57-states/

  83. 83.

    Ken

    August 5, 2019 at 11:03 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    just how often Farmer McNabb has to gun down the hordes of hogs?

    One would think once would be enough, since he wouldn’t need to protect his children after hosing down the yard with automatic weapons fire.

  84. 84.

    Ken

    August 5, 2019 at 11:04 pm

    @Another Scott: I thought the theory was the head trauma was from a beating administered by the Russian Mafia for non-payment of debts?

  85. 85.

    Duane

    August 5, 2019 at 11:08 pm

    I always liked angry President Obama. His anger wasn’t stupid and blithering, just concise and necessary.
    The SNL skit ” Rockbama” where he threw congessmen out the window was great. IRL would have been better.

  86. 86.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 6, 2019 at 12:13 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: @zhena gogolia: She was no Skippy (Asta in the Thin Man films).

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