In NH today, @BernieSanders sounds a lot like @realDonaldTrump as he trashes Amazon: “I talk about that all of the time and then I wonder why the Washington Post, which is owned by Jeff Bezos, who owns Amazon, doesn't write particularly good articles about me I don't know why.”
— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) August 12, 2019
THEY SAID THEY LOVED HIM FOR HIS VAST POLICY PROPOSALS, BUT NOW THEY ARE MOCKING HIS SAGGING POLLS!
.@PostBaron responds to absurd attack: “Sen. Sanders is a member of a large club of politicians—of every ideology—who complain about their coverage….Contrary to the conspiracy theory the senator seems to favor, Jeff Bezos allows our newsroom to operate with full independence.” https://t.co/fAF5piqQ4r
— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) August 13, 2019
Newspapers are in the business of reporting news, something new since yesterday. When Bernie gives a speech and says basically the same thing he said last night, the same thing he said last month, the same thing he said in 2016, there's no news.
— Hieronymus McGillicuddy (@HieronymusMcG) August 13, 2019
We've been tracking press coverage all primary long and Sanders has consistently been at or near the top of the field in terms of the volume of news coverage he's received: https://t.co/BDoiWOjwJs https://t.co/2xzDPHfPxf
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) August 12, 2019
A week or so ago I posted an (unpaid) Op-Ed in the Washington Post which was fairly favorable to @KamalaHarris. It was attacked by some Bernie supporters as being a hit piece by Jeff Bezos. https://t.co/OfZ5PTC8Ym
— Charles Gaba (@charles_gaba) August 13, 2019
On call with reporters for the Sanders campaign, co-chair Nina Turner said just now Sanders drew the largest crowd at the Iowa State Fair, noting this as a demonstration of his strength.
He didn't. Warren had a visibly larger crowd.
— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) August 12, 2019
Seems the BernieStans are consoling each other by shares of his prowess around the digital campfires, and the mockery thereof has been fierce…
#myberniestory
Bernie:? Voted againat mandatory background checks at gun shows
? Voted against the Magnitsky Act
? Voted against Russian sanctions 3x
? Missed vote to keep sanctions on Oleg Deripaska
— Hemant mehta ??? (@MehtaIncredible) August 12, 2019
#MyBernieStory During the 2016 presidential campaign, I wrote a silly column gently poking fun at Bernie Sanders. It led to more death threats that I’ve ever received, and one particularly hideous email wishing death on me and my family. ??
— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) August 12, 2019
In 2006, Bernie "voted in the House with hard-line Republicans for indefinite detention for undocumented immigrants, and then he sided with those Republicans to stand with vigilantes known as Minutemen who were taking up outposts along the border to hunt down immigrants." – HRC
— ???????????? For The People ???? (@__WeStandUnited) August 12, 2019
The only reason Sanders keeps winning in his tiny white state w/ cheap media markets is his sugar daddy’s Ben & Jerry keep him flushed with money. You know, the Ben and Jerry who fought against an union: Maybe Warren should get union busting sugar daddies https://t.co/bgxdTj60F8
— RoyCohnsGhost (@DmitrysPlane) August 12, 2019
Sanders campaign workers got into Clinton campaign database and copied as many files as they could in the small window of time available. #MyBernieStory https://t.co/NWwj5K2EVm
— June Casagrande (@JuneCasagrande) August 12, 2019
#MyBernieStory pic.twitter.com/eFA2vN1oUb
— Centrism Fan Acct ?? (@Wilson__Valdez) August 12, 2019
I remember when Hillary Clinton was on the heels of being the FIRST woman President of the United States, after 227 years of only electing men- 44 in a row. And women weren’t even allowed to be excited bc the angry white men on the left harassed us into silence. #MyBernieStory
— VoteForWomen ??????????????? (@AnnAnnChe) August 12, 2019
(Are we bitter? I, for one, will never *stop* being bitter.)
Mary G
Karma is a bitch, Wilmer.
Ian R
I’m bitter like my whole body is denatonium benzoate. Wilmer and his stans can go fuck themselves.
mrmoshpotato
Notify the burn ward! A has-been screaming about income inequality has been badly burned all over his body!
mrmoshpotato
Off to bed. Must rest up to slag this election-wrecking bastard more tomorrow.
patrick II
In 2016 Wilmer was one of two Democratic candidates who stuck around for more than a minute. This time he is one of 20 of which about 5 are serious candidates. There is only so much non-Donald room on the front page.
Baud
It’s why everyone is so aggressive now. Because being tolerant and accepting didn’t work.
I for one think the stories about sexism and racism in Bernie’s 2016 campaign haven’t been adequately covered.
Travels with Charley
Sorry for the off topic question, but are any of the jackalariat here in Dublin for the World Science Fiction convention? I saw that hedgehog mobile was on her way…
Maybe we could do a Worldcon meetup?
Chetan Murthy
@Baud:
Damn straight.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
The fucker voted for Dump’s racist wall
Senate vote #25 and #26
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
There is only ONE person running for president who voted to give the terrorist NRA blanket immunity.
Bernie (NRA-VT)
Baud
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
That really doesn’t get enough play. Gun manufacturers are the only corporations in the world that Bernie wants to shield from liability for their actions. Why?
Mart
❌ Honeymooned in USSR. (Realize this means absolutely nothing, but who the fuck do you know who honeymooned in Russia?)
Amir Khalid
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Shh. Don’t tell the lancer. He’d be absolutely crushed.
Mart
The new site will has more powers.
Amir Khalid
@Mart:
My parents visited Russia once. The place they told us kids about didn’t sound like a fun honeymoon destination.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
He’s never been part of a union. I was raised by parents who belonged to different unions who always talked to the media during disputes.
If this is how he reacts to his own labor force for exposing him as a fraud for not paying workers a bare living wage, if this is how he reacts when a very friendly reporter, Dave Weigel, mildly observes the triviality that someone else had a bigger crowd, think how he would react to whistle blowers and the intense media scrutiny he would face as president.
J R in WV
I keep telling people Senator Sanders is the left wing version of Donald Trump. Owned and operated by, first, the Soviet Union, and later on by the Russian Federation. Currently an operative being run by minions of Validimir Valdimirovitch Putin.
AS such, his voting pattern matches that would have been the voting pattern of Senator Trump, if he had been told to seek the presidency via election to the senate somewhere. Plus, he is nearly as misogynistic as Trump is, and certainly as psychologically impaired as Trump is.
And that’s why his campaign has had sexual harassment and skirted illegal actions in the recent past. He is a Russian stooge, and must be compliant with their commands without a dammed good excuse.
Back with the Soviet Union was claiming to be a Marxist nation, Senator Sanders claimed to be a socialist. Then when Russia became less Marxist and more the hot mess that it is today, Sanders became less outspoken a Socialist. Now he’s just the frantic finger wagging prick that he is, trying to straddle the demands of his handlers from Russia AND the weirdo vibe of Vermont.
hells littlest angel
The press is treating Bernie bad! They’re also stealing things out of his room!
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
I don’t know what lies have been sworn to here, but a key did exist! My disloyal officers failed me, and the key couldn’t be found.
The key was not imaginary. I don’t know anything about the mess boys.
All the officers were disloyal. They were always fighting me!
But the strawberries, that’s where I had them. I proved with geometric logic that a duplicate key to the icebox existed.
I could have produced that key. They were protecting some officer…
cokane
@J R in WV: this is nuts
Gozer
I’m old enough to remember him speaking approvingly about a primary challenge to Obama in 2012 and then later saying that it wasn’t racist for someone to be wary of Obama’s presidency due to his race.
And then there’s that time he said that “rural” areas just, you know, have a different way of relating to guns. Unlike “urban” areas like Chicago. *wink**wink*
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Gozer:
Baud
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
I hadn’t heard about that incident.
Kate
Long time lurker…but constant reader, going to WorldCon because its only a bus journey away. And I am going all on my own. And its my first. And I am both excited and a little scared. Meet up would be grand!
David Koch
@Baud: here’s the article (link)
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@cokane: I don’t what it is, but there’s something fishy going on. He was the only senator not to cast a sanctions vote on Oleg Deripaska.
He’s one of only 4 senators to vote against the Magnisky act; he’s one of only 2 senators to vote against sanctions for election interference; and he’s the only one not to show up to work for the Deripaska vote. Something is going on.
satby
@Gozer: @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: There are so many reasons I deeply despise Sanders, but these two incidents are at the top. Plus the entire lying con artist that he is. And that he works hard to disillusion younger people about politics in service to his own election via the accusations of corruption and “rigging”. He’s a toxic fraud.
Patricia Kayden
Wow. Sanders has an awful voting record. He’s certainly not the best out of those running for the nomination. I don’t trust him.
Gozer
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: There’s also the matter of his chief campaign strategist, Tad Devine, working with Paul Manafort for Ukraine’s Viktor Yanukovych.
satby
@David Koch: it’s ironic that the article linked struggles hard to be fair to the Bernout and still shows that he just b.s.es his way through life. Almost two years later (at the time of writing) and he still can’t answer a single question with a policy proposal or statement detailing his broader understanding of racial issues. Telling people to “look at his website” makes me wonder how many of his “policies” he’s even the author of.
OzarkHillbilly
Ouch, feel the burn,
JPL
@Kate: Have fun. It’s more than a bus ride away for me, but I hope you are able to meet-up with other lurkers.
satby
@Kate: email Anne Laurie and she can connect you with Travels with Charley’s email so you can set something up.
Robert Sneddon
@Kate: I’ll be in Dublin for the con tomorrow. BTW volunteers to help set up the convention (the “Move In” part of MIMO) are always welcome, if you live locally and can get there early. There will be a volunteer desk somewhere to get you signed up.
debbie
Anyone who aligns with even one of Trump’s position should be drummed out of the party.
lee
I’m really trying to feel sorry for Bernie and his minions.
Wait…no I’m not. As they say in Russia ‘Tough Shitsky’.
J R in WV
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
I believe that Senator Sanders is under the orders of a agency of the Russian Federation, much as Trump is. One for the right wing, and the other for the left wing. Who goes to the Soviet Union for their honeymoon?
Once the KGB/Soviet Union had enough on Sanders, then as the governing reality changed, now the Russian Federation has enough on Sanders, so he does as he is told with regard to voting in the Senate.
Nothing else makes any sense. He is a tool of the Russian intelligence apparatus, and anyone who supports him here is also an unwitting tool of the Russians. He is a racist with no morality at all, a reflection of Trump. They both make odd gestures and shout at their crowds, spooling out lies. He should be in jail, just as Trump should be, for treason or espionage.
That is what is fishy going on with Sanders. He’s a Russian tool.
Percysowner
So thus far this week, I’ve been told that the media
1) Is out to get Joe Biden because it is focusing on his gaffes
2) Is out to get Bernie Sanders because it isn’t reporting about him enough
Meanwhile the female candidates (Go Warren!) are just keeping on, keeping on and Warren and Harris share a hug when they run into each other on the campaign trail https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1160349359512252418
Starfish
I am going to ask for a safe space where we do not talk about Bernie anymore. Also, I am jealous of the people trying to meet up for WorldCon in this thread.
low-tech cyclist
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: That’s just infuckingcredible. Here’s a candidate who’s built his entire political persona around issues of class and economic disparity, and he doesn’t even know (or refuses to acknowledge) that it would be a major oversight, at a minimum, for a union to not actively try to get public opinion on its side in a labor negotiation.
What a fraud he is.
Props for the Caine Mutiny quote, btw.
low-tech cyclist
@Percysowner:
I loved that! I always figured that’s how they’d be if the nomination came down to just the two of them. And it would be great if that came to pass.
germy
Why does Sanders have such a low NRA rating?
Richard Guhl
Bernie’s problems begin with the very way he thinks about the world. He sees everything through the lens of a Marxist class struggle, and therefore can’t imagine how people might consider other matters to be more important.
In his own mind, he sees the whole matter of his NRA votes as a trivial kerfuffle, a means to the end of the greater good of subduing millionaires and billionaires.
This mental rigidity is also manifested when he says such things as, “Yes, it’s important to defend civil rights and women’s rights, BUT ordinary people don’t care about such things.”
That ‘but’ pretty much negates everything that comes before it. For a true believer like Bernie, the only reality is class and all else are distractions.
In the absolute certitude of his convictions, Bernie would make a disastrous President. Fortunately, John Cole’s Senator, Joe Manchin would say F-U, and the myth of Bernie would explode.
chopper
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
of course not. he’s never really worked a day in his life. he cosplays ‘working class’. he’s barton fucking fink.
chopper
@germy:
because he’s not a republican. NRA ratings aren’t based on anything legit.
Ruckus
@J R in WV:
@Richard Guhl:
I believe that both of you are right. This is who he is.
I think he falls in line, Vlad wise, because of what Richard wrote.
And what Richard wrote is why he isn’t a democrat. He’s a Marxist. Of course he’s lots of other things as well, none of which are good traits in a democratic candidate for, well any office.
enplaned
Sanders only gained prominence in 2016 because Hillary was a weak candidate – a candidate who had already been rejected by the party in 2008 when she lost to Obama. There were a lot of Democrats who wanted an alternative to Hillary, who in 2016 was about as same-old/same-old as it was possible to be, and Sanders provided that outlet. He was less an intrinsically attractive candidate and more the canary in the coal-mine, presaging Hillary’s difficulty in the general election. He was never seriously tested in 2016, the Hillary campaign treated him and his supporters with kid gloves. I’d have preferred a different Democrat to Hillary (but absolutely Hillary over Trump), but I never viewed Sanders as at all real and I’ve never found him an attractive candidate.
Had the field been open, had Hillary not run (or had the Democrats been less blatant about greasing the skids for her) Sanders would never have been a thing. And indeed, this time around, it looks quite possible that he’ll be beaten into third place or worse by Warren and others.
opiejeanne
@enplaned: Oh, this bullshit again. No, Hillary was not a “weak candidate”. She was popular and the best candidate after Obama, got the most votes after Obama, won the election and was cheated out of the presidency by Russian interference and the media’s insane hatred of her. No one “greased the skids” for her at all. Oh, and the super delegates idea belonged to Tad Devine. He insisted on it. Too bad they went for her instead of his pet candidate.
What makes you think Sanders wouldn’t have been running if not for Hillary?
Jim
I just love the way BS makes a collection of relatively unaccomplished chuckleheads whine over the tiniest of things. It doesn’t require much in the way of brains to figure out his point — that the dedicated capitalist Bezo ain’t behind the democratic socialist who’s been critical of him. . I can of course understand why that would be a challenge for the BSDS-suffering crowd. Well done Bernie! https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-raises-minimum-wage-to-15-dollars-2018-10
SFAW
@Jim:
Wow, you sure told them off.
Although, I might suggest one minor correction: calling someone a self-important asshole whose 28-year Congressional career has been notably lacking in tangible accomplishments — although I can understand that lack, since I’m sure he had to divide his time between that and all his other jobs since 1991 — and laughing at his whiny, self-pitying bullshit, while his Bern-Or-Bust-ers un-ironically compare him to FDR, is not what most native English-speakers would call “derangement.” “Mockery,” perhaps. Or maybe “calling bullshit”?
But thanks for registering your very valuable opinion.
Geeno
@germy: He didn’t used to. I suspect he asked them for one when he started running for 2016 so he wouldn’t get bashed over the head with it.
Mnemosyne
@Percysowner:
I want a Warren/Harris or Harris/Warren ticket. I’m not picky about the order as long as they’re both on it.
Let the boys fight each other while the women team up and get shit DONE.
cokane
@J R in WV: good lord, the conspiracies here are becoming as bad as a breitbart comment section
anarchoRex
Damn, this dude really triggers y’all.
Lumpy
Weird, I don’t see Bernie Sanders’ name in the Top 20 recipients of defense funding (let alone Bernie being in first place). Anyone got a link documenting the claim Bernie is #1?
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=D&cycle=2018&recipdetail=S&mem=Y&sortorder=U
Lumpy
@Lumpy:
Oops, I found it. The claim is that Bernie was the #1 recipient of defense funds in the Senate. It’s referring to private donations to 2016 candidates from people working in the defense industry (not money from defense PACs or lobbyists).
It kind of hinges on a technicality though (“in the Senate”). Hillary Clinton got far more money than Bernie Sanders in private donations from defense industry employees during the 2016 campaign, but since she wasn’t a member of the Senate in 2016, Bernie becomes #1.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/2016-election-defense-military-industry-contractors-donations-money-contributions-presidential-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-republican-ted-cruz-213783
Statistics can be used to mislead. I think that’s essentially what we are seeing here.