Oy vey!
“Thank you to Wayne Allyn Root for the very nice words. “President Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world…and the Jewish people in Israel love him….
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 21, 2019
…..all Jews, Blacks, Gays, everyone. And importantly, he’s good for everyone in America who wants a job.” Wow! @newsmax @foxandfriends @OANN
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 21, 2019
I realize that when the President and his surrogates are called out to explain or respond to this, the answer will be that he’s just retweeting something complimentary that Wayne Allen Root said and/or wrote about him. And that it is part of him counter-punching and punching back at those, especially the Jewish Americans, pushing back against his statements yesterday about loyalty and disloyalty. But the level of sycophancy in Root’s comments about the President and delusion in the President’s repackaging those comments and blasting them out to the world are just astounding.
Here’s some quick background on Root, who is a conspiracist.
https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1164146744369786880
Also, on a semi-related matter, if you’re wondering why the President cancelled his Denmark trip, methinks this might have had something to do with it.
.@maggieNYT very shrewd. This isn't about Greenland. Obama scheduled to visit Denmark 9/28. Trump was scared of the likely contrast to his state visit on 9/2-3. https://t.co/BsRvpMQ8Xj
— David Frum (@davidfrum) August 21, 2019
Open thread!
Zzyzx
I can’t believe I’m in a mood today where I’m desperately hoping that the President is too dumb to understand basic Christian symbolism (king of the Jews, second coming) because any other interpretation is so awful.
PaulWartenberg
“Any man who must say ‘I am the King’ is no true king.” – Tywin Lannister
the horrifying thing, the self-proclaimed judges of faith – the evangelicals, the greedy, the corrupt powers in high places – will cheer trump’s blasphemy on even though trump is performing every act as an honest-to-God Antichrist (a false person who claims to speak for Christianity but defiles every teaching and act Jesus ever made).
Cheryl Rofer
Basically, Root said Trump is the Second Coming, and Trump agreed with him. This is the classic pop understanding of a person who has lost it.
A thread to consider:
And a little grim humor
SFAW
@Zzyzx:
Oh, calm down. I have complete and utter faith that, if Trump declared himself to be Jesus returned, Mitch McConnell would talk to Speaker Pelosi about her pushing impeachment through the House ASAP, and the Senate would immediately vote to convict.
Mai naem mobile
They were playing the 2016 debate clips yesterday. Compare Donny from the 2016 clips to clips from now and he is not looking healthy. Not healthy at all. I also think hes sun downing on top of the narcissistic disorder or whatever it is. There is a guy on twitter whose theory is that Paul Ryan is moving to DC to get involved in pushing for the 25th amendment and then getting Nikki Haley as Veep or POTUS.
Cheryl Rofer
SFAW
@PaulWartenberg:
Unpossible! The RWMFs told us that Obama was/is the Anti-Christ.
By the way, what does “projection” mean, in psychological parlance? Asking for a
countryfriendwaspuppet
Trump doesn’t think far enough ahead to care about Obama’s trip. He doesn’t even know what Obama is doing. He just knows that the entire country would spend the entire time openly laughing in his face.
Denmark, I mean.
Gin & Tonic
@Mai naem mobile: Paul Ryan is moving to DC because he can make more money there than in Janesville, WI. Simple.
SFAW
@Mai naem mobile:
I believe it, because Ryan has always acted boldly. Well, at least when it comes to trying to kill poor people, but this would be almost the same, right?.
Spanky
“But failed. The new Golden Calf Memorial will replace the deteriorating Jefferson Memorial just as soon as those pesky cherry trees are torn out.”
zhena gogolia
I saw that earlier and I thought Trump was talking about Netanyahu. That was bad enough, but this is terrifying.
Jeffro
Whomever’s in charge of bunker provisions at the WH, please be sure to leave a round in the chamber and picture-book instructions on how he can do the right thing here. We are now at “beyond ridiculous” and unfortunately this is the leader* of the free world we’re talking about.
SFAW
Where’s Peter O’Toole when we need him? I mean, if we’re going to talk about persons who think they’re Jesus and all, why not go for the real thing?
MattF
It’s clear that Trump views religion as an efficient way of picking pockets. And it has to be admitted that the behavior of the religious individuals he meets won’t contradict that view.
Gravenstone
@Cheryl Rofer: (golden) Veal, anyone?
Zzyzx
I guess it’s good to know that there never has been any historical issues with people asking why Jews aren’t able to recognize the messiah.
Seriously, quoting a Jews for Jesus asshat using Rapturist logic to demand loyalty from Jews? How does he expect that to play out?
Kay
I knew it was Obama because I know Obama is popular in Denmark. You really can’t go wrong betting on “stupid, small and petty” with Team Trump. Guess and then go a couple of notches lower towards “petty”. We’re governed by people who treat the country like 7th graders treat school cafeteria seating.
They like Obama! That’s not fair! Hoo boy, the nasty tweets are gonna fly over this latest preteen drama.
Miss Bianca
@PaulWartenberg: @Cheryl Rofer: Well, to be Scrupulously Fair to Donald Trump, the Antichrist, classically, *does* actually believe he is the Second Coming. Too bad that according to the classical model, it’s actually the Devil deluding him into that belief and fueling his “miracles”.
Speaking of which, when do we get to the “miracles” part, anyway? What do we get for “miracles”? Trying to buy Greenland? Our marvelous economy? Making all the brown people disappear?
Ugh, I have to stop this, I am bumming myself out.
patrick II
From before he was president the fact that he cannot speak on any subject without large numbers of Republicans following him around explaining to us what he really meant regardless of what he said. I don’t think Obama or Clinton had to have scads of people following them around saying no! no! this is what he really meant!
PaulWartenberg
@SFAW:
I saw that movie. he ends up believing he’s Jack the Ripper. apt comparison either way.
LuciaMia
Yikes. In that photo of Obama,is that his SS detail behind him? Now they look scary!
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: I’ve repeatedly said that in any other modern state and society, anyone running for elected office, under consideration for appointed office, or serving in any senior public or private capacity who regularly claimed they were actually in ongoing conversations with the Deity, such as the Vice President and the Secretary of State, would be placed on an evaluatory hold. Only in the US are clear indicators of potential serious mental health issues considered to be positive indicators of fitness for high public office or private positions of responsibility.
PaulWartenberg
@Miss Bianca:
the “miracles” are all self-serving ones. Like Simon Magus leaping off buildings to prove he can fly, trump believes all the honors and accolades – his obsession with Awards – he’s applying to himself makes him powerful.
Miss Bianca
@patrick II: No, we had scads of Republicans/pundits following them around trying to “explain” what Obama and Clinton Really Meant.
jc
God, Trump is so useless and deluded, it’s just depressing. And the people who vote for him are pathetic. The more I read about him and them, the more I lose all faith in humanity and just want to go live in the remote mountains with a dog.
Greg
Has anyone noted that Jews are still waiting for the First Coming of the Messiah? That they don’t recognize that Jesus was/is the Messiah? Seems like a basic point that someone close to him that claims to be Jewish might be able to help him with.
Ladyraxterinok
@MattF: Check out Rodney Howard Brown and his ‘laughing ministry’ that he started in 89. (I remember date because some Pentecostals/charismatics claimed this ministry was the cause of the fall of the Berlin Wall!! –put up Aug 13, 1961)
I was at one of his services (required attendence). Really creepy. He’d walk back and forth sort of threatening different parts of the congregation, then would thrust out his arms and call down ‘the spirit’ and some would fall down laughing uncontrollably.
If you’ve ever been in a Pentacostal service, you soon learn that the leaders and wannabe be leaders will ALWAYS be immediately ‘slain in the spirit’ to prove how close they are to god,
humboldtblue
It just keeps getting worse.
Thank goodness there is beer.
And really good Mendo cannabis.
Miss Bianca
@Greg: What, you don’t think he’s going to listen to *Jewish people* about what Jews believe, do you? Who would enlighten him, anyway? Jared? Stephen Miller?
dmsilev
On the plus side of the ledger, whoever replaces Trump as President is going to receive the Not-Donald-Trump Nobel Peace Prize pretty much right out of the gate, and ex-President Trump’s Twitter meltdown will be the hugest and bigliest one ever.
Kay
Why does she want the job? She sucks at representing the interests of her constituents many of whom are poor and old and rely on government programs (not that there’s anything wrong with that). She claims to be disappointed once a month with Republicans but she has yet to come thru with anything approaching her own health care plan, or anything else of import. What exactly is her purpose other than performing the same bullshit show over and over again with media. She’s a worse version of Murkowski. That slot is already filled by a more authentic person.
Scott
One only has to spend some time in the Facebook comments of Trump supporters to see the incredible blasphemy they exhibit in their praise of Trump. They do believe he was anointed by God and has a special place in God’s world. Utterly revolting and creepy. What is truly scary is that it seems as though Trump could start believing it also.
zzyzx
@Greg: Yes. We have all noticed.
The person he is quoting did that intentionally as he is a evangelical Christian who calls himself a Jew, so he’s all about trying to pretend that Judaism is really just an obscure branch of Christianity, not our own religion.
We all know what “King of Israel” and “Second coming” mean.
Olivia
So did trump concoct the “I want to buy Greenland” crap because he knew Denmark would turn him down? Then he could cancel the trip in a huff so he didn’t have to show up and be compared to Obama.
That shows a level of thinking and scheming that I didn’t think he was capable of, except for the part where he ends up looking like a 12 year old throwing a tantrum again.
Miss Bianca
@dmsilev: Do they allow federal prisoners to Tweet? Since we’re fantasizing about a post-Trump era, and all.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Gornisht helfn.
Timurid
We’re watching the President of the United States have a psychotic break in real time, but This Is Fine.
Cheryl Rofer
@Adam L Silverman: I’ve made the point a few times on Twitter that people who believe in the Rapture should not be in places where they influence decisions on nuclear weapon use. Or, I might add, wars in the Middle East. Every time I’ve been slapped down by a national security type on the basis that religion doesn’t play a part in decisions on who should be in office.
So let’s separate it from religion: If someone believes that a world-destroying war in the Middle East is a good idea, they shouldn’t be in office.
There’s a lot more to say on this – the religion issue is real, but we have religions in this country that are, as you say, signs of problematic mental health. We need to think more about what is actually protected by the First Amendment. Separating actions from beliefs is part of it.
zhena gogolia
@jc:
Co-sign.
mrmoshpotato
@Cheryl Rofer: He already has a gold shitter in his image.
Kay
@Scott:
I listen to local fundie radio and they do backflips to support him. It’s painful to listen to. His personal lack of character and horrible behavior are not only not disqualifying, but specifically God’s plan.
You watch. They’ll come up with a reason to hate Denmark. Denmark is now The Enemy. He issued the edict.
mrmoshpotato
@SFAW: Mid-day, mid-week sarcasm is the best sarcasm. :)
Scott
@Adam L Silverman: No one wants to talk about it because it would totally politically incorrect but the dangerous influence of the Christian End Times death cult on our foreign policy is pretty deep. Externally there is Hagee and Jeffrees but right at the top is Pompeo and Pence.
gene108
Am I reading Trump’s tweets wrong, or is he declaring himself the Messiah, by saying he’s the King of Israel? And Jesus-like, as he is the Second Coming?
And religious conservatives seem just fine and not bothered.
Timurid
@Cheryl Rofer:
What scares me isn’t Trump trying to replay the book of Revelation.
What scares me is Trump feeling really sick one day, going to the doctor and getting a ‘rocks fall, everybody dies’ diagnosis like pancreatic cancer or Lewy Body dementia. What exactly is a next level narcissist going to do when he realizes that 7 billion other people get to live and he doesn’t… and that he has the means to do something about that injustice.
Adam L Silverman
@Olivia: The attempt to get it, to increase claims in the arctic and to be able to strip mine it for rare earth elements, especially as the glacier’s recede, has long been a fever dream of the hard right nat-sec crowd.
M31
even though the Golden Calf was carved from rancid Velveeta, the trumpists bowed down before it, saying “YOU ARE OUR CHOSEN ONE, GOLDEN AND GLISTENING”
MattF
@Kay: Obviously, God’s plan involves a -really- tremendous real estate deal. Only Satan would oppose it.
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: Yep. I try not to begrudge anyone their religious beliefs, no matter how much I think they are really a justification for bigotry and actions that are contrary to the public good and general welfare. But we’ve reached a weird and dangerous place on this stuff. And I honestly don’t know how we navigate it.
dmsilev
Speaking of incoherent thoughts, Washington Post banner right now:
Coming soon: “We’re going to buy Greenland and (rolls dice) Argentina is going to pay for it!”. Also, I’d pay good money for some reporter to ask him about the US policy re: the ongoing crisis in Freedonia.
Miss Bianca
@Timurid: We can but pray for a massive heart attack. Or better yet – a stroke that paralyzes him completely and renders him speechless. Altho’ I suppose one of the blood-gargling sociopaths he surrounds himself with might interpret his twitchy eyeblinks as a prompt to drop the bomb.
So, yeah, rooting for massive heart infarction that takes him out of our misery completely.
zzyzx
@gene108: The only defense I have is that he actually is quoting someone else. It’s quite likely Trump just saw, “Wow, someone said something really nice about me,” and ran with it without understanding the implications of what the claims were. Like I said, I’m praying that Trump is too dumb to understand basic theological facts…
humboldtblue
@Timurid:
I have some really good Mendo cannabis if you need some.
And some beer.
Kay
@MattF:
He better watch it. This is unmoored from everything. If they made him Christ they can also make him the anti-Christ. The flip side of fawning, blind adoration isn’t ambivalence, it’s hate.
Adam L Silverman
@Timurid: You know how they buried the pharoahs with their wives, concubines, servants, pets, food, wine, gold, jewels, objets de art?
chris
@SFAW: When I pray, I’m just talking to myself.
Or something like that. One of my favourite movies back when.
humboldtblue
As if this apocalyptic talk of the end of the world isn’t bad enough, the Amazon is burning.
patrick II
@Miss Bianca:
Good point.
Ladyraxterinok
@Ladyraxterinok: Brown was the man whose back we saw in the pic of Evangelical pastors ‘laying hands on’ Trump.
Also, IIRC Brown is from So Africa.
gene108
@Kay:
The Senate’s helluva drug. People are either voted out or die in office.
Few want to retire.
Cheryl Rofer
Here’s some good news –
Elizabelle
@dmsilev: Trump won’t have twitter in federal prison. Or a prison in New York.
Post “presidency”, Trump belongs in a coffin or incarcerated. Period.
MattF
@Kay: I think Trump has always been unmoored, and I doubt that he really grasps the level of craziness among the evangelicals. The only thing he’s certain about is his own genius.
mrmoshpotato
@Kay:
If only all Republicans would take the truth of this and act on it.
Ladyraxterinok
@Miss Bianca: Easy! JUDGES! US embassy moved to Jerusalem.
Pardon me while I check back with Jim Bakker and gusests for updates!
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: Now lets see if the GOP dominated NC legislature is able to override his veto. Because you know they’re going to try.
TenguPhule
@SFAW:
I too would like a unicorn that poops ice cream and sprinkles.
TenguPhule
@Elizabelle:
Why is this an either/or scenario?
TenguPhule
@Kay:
She’s too old to walk the streets. //
TenguPhule
@Cheryl Rofer:
I’m pretty sure this is satire. At least I sure hope so.
Miss Bianca
@TenguPhule: Do they still bury prisoners in the prison yard?
patrick II
I think part of what we are seeing with Trump is mental deterioration from even a few years ago. But I also think it is the result of the previous positions he has taken leaving him fewer and more desperate moves as the
gamepresidency continues. I am reminded of a chess game I played with a friend who happened to be a chess master. The bad positions I took early on restricted my movements as the game moved on, until I was left with just a few really desperate things I could do towards the end. Trump has boxed himself in, can’t give up, and is desperate to finish the game without going to jail, so he’s just hiding the king behind the few pieces he has left.TenguPhule
@Jeffro:
“We’ve gone to Plaid!”
Cmorenc
@zhena gogolia: things relating to trump only come in different degrees of terrible, and there is no bottom except he would’t really shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue, though he will happily incite racist wingnuts to shoot brown people in broad daylight on other streets across americs
rikyrah
I’ve been mulling about these words ever since I read them on Twitter this morning.
They were phucking insane then.
They are phucking insane now.
Insane is the word that just keeps coming back to me while reading it.
Frankensteinbeck
@SFAW:
What we feel when we look at Trump, racists (all Republicans) feel when they look at Obama.
@Timurid:
I don’t think this is going to be a problem. Those 7 billion other people don’t really exist, to Trump. There would be no point to punishing them, because they don’t get to live. They’re not alive now, and there is no universe without Trump. At best, Trump inhabits the world with 7 billion cockroaches, and who cares about taking cockroaches with you?
Mike in DC
Conservatives: Claims that Jews have dual loyalty are anti-Semitic
Also Conservatives: Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Israel
Ilhan Omar: :facepalm: :eyeroll:
rikyrah
Now, THIS actually makes Dolt45 sense
Ladyraxterinok
@Scott: Remember Hagee was McCain’s r ere Religious advisor in 08 until national media started to listen AND PAY ATTN to people who knew who Hagee is and what he believes about the role Jews’ destruction plays in the End Times!
TenguPhule
@Miss Bianca:
Wining the Republican Primary.
Stealing the Oval Office.
Not being immediately impeached.
Convinced 45% of America that Nazis are back in style.
Managing a soft coup of the US Federal Government and all its armed forces despite being the most incompetent man on the face of the Earth.
Cheryl Rofer
@TenguPhule: David Rothkopf is being sarcastic.
TenguPhule
@Miss Bianca: For him I’m sure we can make an exception. Even Federal Prisoners should have someone they can look down on.
Miss Bianca
@rikyrah: I don’t buy it. I mean, I get that his Obama hate/envy thing drives a lot of his insanity, but I just don’t buy that he’d *believe* his reception in Denmark would be substantially smaller and less cordial than Obama’s.
Maybe I’m not giving Trump enough credit for self-awareness?//
Brachiator
Holy shit. Trump calls Danish prime minister “nasty.” Also, he once again conflates himself with the country.
Previously, Trump’s most churlish, sullenly resentful remarks were targeted at domestic foes. But he is fully unrestrained here, and determined to make an enemy out of an ally.
The UK Daily Mail reported on this, and their reader comments, which usually are full of people supporting Trump, this time more often reflect mockery and disgust. But there are a few diehards who still defend Trump and actually bash the Danish prime minister.
Trump’s remarks on the respect that he is due is fully in keeping with his vile remarks about what Jewish people supposedly owe him.
mrmoshpotato
@TenguPhule: Everyone knows unicorns fart rainbows, you silly person.
Miss Bianca
@TenguPhule: Well, when you put it *that* way…ouch. You do have a point.
catclub
@PaulWartenberg:
I pointed out years ago, that after many rwnj’s called Obama the antiChrist, it would be amusing/ironic/horrifying
if Trump ends up BEING it.
TenguPhule
@Frankensteinbeck:
Punishing them is the point. Trump loves being cruel.
rikyrah
@Miss Bianca:
He has spent his entire Presidency trying to undo everything 44 did.
If it weren’t the same month, I’d buy it. but,within a couple of weeks of one another? I buy it.
TenguPhule
@Cheryl Rofer: These days its hard to tell it apart from reality. I’m pretty sure Greenland was the final straw.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
How cool is it that the one place I’ve been to in Denmark is this little university town called Aalborg up in the north, and that’s where Obama is going?
I even have a little piece of Aalborg in me, a dental filling I had to have replaced while I was there. I learned that apparently the descendants of Vikings are too tough and stoic to require novocaine for something as simple as drilling out a tooth for a new filling, but they indulged me, with something that knocked out the feeling in half my face for about 8 hours.
And sorry, Trumpers. The contrast to Obama is drawn every time we even see a still photo of Obama, let alone hear him speak. It can not be avoided.
Eric S.
@Gravenstone: Well done. With a bottle of ketchup.
Ruckus
@Zzyzx:
The same way he expects everything else to pay out. Just remember, whatever a totally delusional, narcissistic individual says, is 100% right. To them.
TenguPhule
@Cmorenc:
I keep telling people not to challenge this timeline that way.
SFAW
@TenguPhule:
They’re on back-order, but I’ll add you to the Waitlist.
JaySinWA
@Adam L Silverman: Are you suggesting Trump’s library motif as a pharaoh’s tomb? Where his family and staff are kept away from us?
Kay
@rikyrah:
Well, Trump certainly can’t go now that he insulted them for no reason other than to cover his giant behind because his dumb-ass Greenland Plan leaked. He doesn’t have any money to buy anything anyway and he can’t get shit thru Congress. Was he going to put a mortgage on the White House?
Miss Bianca
@Cheryl Rofer: That’s right. Ivanka and Jared actually *aren’t* uncomfortable with the notion of Donald Trump being called God. That’s how I knew it was sarcasm.
SFAW
@TenguPhule:
Coming up in our next episode: “There’s no way it can get any worse!”
MattF
@catclub: I thought the Anti-Christ had to be a homosexual Jew.
mrmoshpotato
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
I draw the contrast even thinking about Obama.
catclub
@patrick II:
But Obama did have many rwnj’s following him around saying ‘see, that was an apology tour,’
he just never actually apologized
FlipYrWhig
@Brachiator:
Yutsano
@PaulWartenberg: “You just sent the most powerful man in Westeros to bed without his supper…”
Charles Dance. Peter Dinklage. So many good actors.
TenguPhule
@zzyzx:
When in fact Christianity was originally developed as a way to convert Gentiles to a softer and lighter form of Judaism.
Miss Bianca
@JaySinWA: “Well, the Pharaoh is dead, so let’s embalm his entire family, his servants, and concubines” works for me. Well, maybe not the concubine part. Stormy Daniels et al. have done nothing to deserve *that* fate.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
Stormy Daniels doesn’t deserve that kind of punishment.
SFAW
@FlipYrWhig:
Next up: the Dumbfuck-in-Chief launches an attack on Germany for their bombing of Pearl Harbor.
ETA: Fortunately, your ex-post-posto edit doesn’t mess mine up too much.
Ruckus
@Kay:
I don’t think she has any thoughts, ideas or ideals of her own.
Maybe she’s a replicant.
She certainly doesn’t act human.
Miss Bianca
@TenguPhule: Jinx!
ETA: The objets d’art on the other hand…I could totally get behind burying all the works of that knob-slobbering idiot – McNaughton? – along with the object of his veneration.
Kay
@Brachiator:
TenguPhule
@SFAW:
Season Finale: “He couldn’t possibly be stupid enough to do this!”
Chyron HR
It would almost be worth nominating Bernie just so we can have a presidential debate that consists entirely of two inveterate atheists each insisting that HE is the true messiah.
TenguPhule
@Miss Bianca: :P
Great minds think alike and apparently so do ours.
SFAW
@Kay:
Huh. I didn’t realize that one of the definitions of “independence” was “giving a big ‘FUCK YOU’ to one’s constituents. Multiple times.” The things I learn here.
TenguPhule
@Chyron HR:
Pretty sure it would be a violation of the Geneva Conventions and at least one Constitutional Amendment.
mrmoshpotato
@Chyron HR: LMAO!
Dump: I’m luxurious and tremendous and everyone loves me!
Wilmer: No, I’m luxurious and tremendous and everyone loves me!
AThornton
@Adam L Silverman:
I believe you are thinking of the Sumerians.
Kraux Pas
@Brachiator:
Let me guess. The Danish prime minister is a woman…and…yup.
SFAW
@TenguPhule:
Series/World Finale: “Donnie would NEVER launch all the missiles, just because someone wouldn’t give him a new toy.”
Brachiator
@rikyrah:
That Trump has escalated this little episode into an insult to Denmark complicates the theory that this is about Obama. Doesn’t contradict it, but certainly complicates it.
JaySinWA
@Ruckus: And here I thought she was a “thoughts and prayers” kind of severely disappointed gal.
Gelfling 545
@Greg: To the best of my knowledge the idea that a messiah would be God is not a Jewish belief. Or the idea that God has gone anywhere to come back from a second time. At least, that was my impression.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kraux Pas:
That was my first thought when I heard he used that term.
David Anderson
@Adam L Silverman: they don’t have the votes to override
Miss Bianca
@Kraux Pas: Yeah, almost goes without saying, doesn’t it? : (
@Brachiator: I’m of your thinking about this. Mark you, I fully believe he will *make* this all about Obama after he sees images of Danes pouring into the streets to welcome PBHO.
PPCLI
@Brachiator: It had to be a Dane to say it. “Kejserens nye klæder” is, after all, a Danish story.
Roger Moore
@Adam L Silverman:
Not if the Democrats hold to their previous votes. The GOP no longer has a veto-proof majority.
SFAW
@catclub:
Because every accusation is a confession with him and the RWMFs
JPL
This morning I learned that trump canceled his trip to Denmark and then I left for the morning. Upon my return I discover that the deficit is exploding, migrant children can be held indefinitely, if you’re Jewish you owe your loyalty to Israel, trump is god or something and he called the Prime Minister of Denmark nasty.
Is that it or did I miss something else.
Betty Cracker
Full narcissistic injury meltdown alert!
TenguPhule
We are so fucked.
TenguPhule
They’re going to expand the fucking camps.
JaySinWA
@Brachiator: I’m pretty sure Trump wasn’t looking ahead to Obama, but perhaps his staff and family were. They could easily influence his thinking to make him cancel the Danish trip, and from there doubling down on Denmark hate was just Trump being Trump.
Brachiator
@Kraux Pas:
It’s kinda hard to see how Trump will ever be able to go to Denmark after this idiotic outburst.
Kraux Pas
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Obligatory song cue
TenguPhule
@JPL:
ISIS is coming back into strength.
Elizabelle
@Betty Cracker: No. I won’t listen to Trump.
Someone has to write up a summary.
Brachiator
@JPL:
It’s still early. Just wait.
Elizabelle
WaPost: breaking: just like that:
Good. Cuz it was a bad idea. It truly is just whatever comes out of his mouth. At the time.
TenguPhule
Holy Fucking Shit.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Betty Cracker:
No. Not in a thousand years.
I guess I’m missing the evidence of the accelerating slide into dementia that I read about here and there, but it’s still not enough to change my policy of never letting his voice reach my ears.
I’m grateful for those brave souls who listen and report back to the rest of us. May you not be dragged into the pits of madness.Y’ai ‘ng’ngah, Yog-Sothoth h’e-l’geb f’ai throdog uaaah!
JaySinWA
@Miss Bianca: As tempting as it would be to bury all that crap, I think we need to have our own version of a never again memorial after we get through this.
JustRuss
Obama should do the world a favor and start scheduling visits to every country Trump is visiting, preferably right before the Orange One’s visit. If he can get Trump to stay home for the duration of his term he might pick up a second Nobel. Of course, the downside is that gives him more time in Washington….although keeping his handlers busy might be for the best.
mrmoshpotato
@JPL: You missed Dump’s feefees being hurt because Denmark’s response to selling Greenland wasn’t a simple “No.” but a “No. And you’re a fat, orange idiot.”
JPL
@Betty Cracker: I made twenty seconds.
LuciaMia
I hear they also get colonoscopies without any anesthesia.
TenguPhule
@JaySinWA:
A collection of bronze guillotines with statutes of Trump, his family and McConnell all strapped in?
TenguPhule
This is what they have wrought.
Stan
“They love him like he is the second coming”
I’d just like to pause for a moment and marvel at the idea that jews(!) would be awaiting a second coming. Wow.
dmsilev
Kevin Drum just now:
The last 24 hours have been quite a year, haven’t they?
TenguPhule
Its obscene.
JaySinWA
@Brachiator: She’ll come crawling back to him. They always submit to his dominance. At least in his imagination. Unfortunately it is reality for Republicans. I expect the Danes are made of stronger stuff.
OTOH this is just stupid words, and while diplomacy is often a mere tissue of words, I doubt Danes will act against their interests, in spite of the words.
TenguPhule
I foresee a return of “I’m Canadian” stickers for foreign travel.
Betty Cracker
@Elizabelle & @Ceci n est pas mon nym: He claims he was mobbed by adoring injured people and families, and doctors came “pouring out of operating rooms” when he visited the hospitals after the massacres because everyone loves him so much, but the unfair news media won’t report that.
ETA: Now Trump is tweet-screaming about Denmark’s contributions to NATO and how NATO is so unfair. He’s supposedly on his way to address the AMVETS convention in KY. Maybe he’ll get the ass-kissing he needs from them.
MattF
@Elizabelle: It would be an implicit admission that there’s a problem. And that cannot happen. Never.
Emerald
@Betty Cracker:I’m starting to worry that he won’t make it to the 2020 election. I want to beat his demented ass into the ground. I want him to lose Texas. (Failing that, I want Pence to lose Texas. And Indiana.)
And then I want President Harris’ Justice Dept to prosecute his ass into a federal prison. And New York to do the same. The prison systems can fight over him.
Although I imagine he’ll be in a secure medical facility before that. Sadly, he’ll be unable to comprehend what’s finally happening to him.
JPL
Someone is piecing together all the times that trump has called a female nasty. I expect to see it aired at the Convention next July.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@TenguPhule:
Pro-tip: If you make any kind of attempt at all to speak not-English, they will already assume you are from any English-speaking country that is not the US.
TenguPhule
When it rains, it pours. Spiderman is once again out of the Marvel Cinematic Universe because Fuck Disney!
Miss Bianca
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Shit, I’d rather take my chances on retaining my sanity summoning Yog-sathoth than try to listen to Trump. I have somehow managed to elude the prospect amazingly well so far.
JPL
@Emerald: What about his children, although I would spare Barron?
Citizen Alan
@Zzyzx:
I have told fundamentalist Xtians of my acquaintance for years that if the Antichrist ever came to power, he would be a Republican President, he would claim to be a Christian, he would insist that it was his faith in the teachings of Jesus Christ that led him to hate poor people and want to start wars, and that fundamentalist Xtians would vote for him overwhelmingly.
But I must admit that even I was shocked to realize that the Antichrist wouldn’t even need to try to pass as a Xtian. That it would be possible to win the loyalty of evangelicals despite a complete and utter ignorance of the Bible.
Gravenstone
@catclub: The first words out of the new President’s mouth following their inauguration had best be, ” We are so, so terribly sorry. And we promise to never let Republicans take control again.” That ought to fill at least half the DC Mall with the finely pulped mist of exploding heads.
Miss Bianca
@mrmoshpotato:
Nah, I think it would go down like more this:
Wilmer: “No, YOU’RE luxurious but I’M tremendous!” Otherwise, carry on as written.
mrmoshpotato
@Miss Bianca: Not going full Cthulhu?
Patricia Kayden
Where are the Conservatives who claimed that President Obama was a narcissist because he used the words “I” and “me”? They say nothing about Trump calling himself the King of Israel and the Second Coming. You’d think they’d call that blasphemy.
twitter.com/RnC_for_pres/status/1164227726154190848
Pathetic hypocrites.
TenguPhule
And once again, Trump has to go and make it worse.
mrmoshpotato
@Miss Bianca: I’m not sure a “debate” between Dump and Wilmer would be that civil.
Baud
@TenguPhule:
Flashback to the Austin Power movie.
Miss Bianca
@mrmoshpotato: No, at that point I would probably brave listening to Trump first.
I’m just guessing here, because my knowledge of All Things Lovecraftian is limited to loving his namesake band.
Tenar Arha
@Betty Cracker: One more mirror universe part of this is probably that he & his enablers kept the press pool away & put out a campaign style video from the stop in Ohio. So, the press couldn’t even have helped him with their coverage bc they didn’t have the visuals, because they knew he’d do something awful & self-aggrandizing…& of course he did.
ETA oops El Paso msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-seen-in-video-touting-rally-crowd-size-during-el-paso-hospital-vis…
Gravenstone
@TenguPhule: Which of his sycophants in attendance has the responsibility for “the Numbers”? Because you know damn well he has no idea bout any single country’s contribution to NATO, or whether they are even signatories to the agreement.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Brachiator: The Danish PM is another “nasty” woman.
TenguPhule
@Gravenstone: He tweeted it from AF1.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@TenguPhule: Dammit! The Tom Holland reboot was starting to grow on me, and I really liked this version of MJ. Do we need to reboot again? (Though I still can’t get used to Marisa Tomei as Aunt May). Or could they continue with the current cast, just without any Marvel characters around. I’d be OK with that.
I suppose if they’re going to reboot, I’d kind of like to see a live-action version of Miles Morales. With or without any of the parallel Spider-persons.
J R in WV
@TenguPhule:
Shouldn’t unmarked cruisers be assigned to escort those buses, to arrest anyone acting out towards them? That ought to quash things pretty quickly, and provide a record of those committing the crimes.
No new paint job required, which won’t make any difference anyway, the racists already know which buses to attack. Once the criminal record is established, take away their right to the guns!
Tenar Arha
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: I suppose the real question is: What entity is Tom Holland’s & the rest of the cast’s contract with?
TenguPhule
@J R in WV:
Its Idaho.
LuciaMia
@Baud: Was just gonna say, is he quoting Dr. Evil now?
Dorothy A. Winsor
@TenguPhule: Amendment 14, section 1:
Surely at least one person in the WH has read the Constitution.
mrmoshpotato
@Miss Bianca: That was trippy. Just listened to The White Ship.
Lou: Electric yellow’s got me by the brain banana.
quantum man
@TenguPhule: nah. poops money.
zhena gogolia
@Betty Cracker:
“The doctors were coming out of the operating rooms!”
J R in WV
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I would place more money on the butler having read it than anyone working as Presidential staff.
mrmoshpotato
@zhena gogolia: Oh for the sake of all the fucks!
rikyrah
@Baud:
ok, this just made me laugh :)
Mike in NC
A quarter of the population of Hong Kong have been marching in the streets demanding their rights from China. Why hasn’t Fat Bastard offered to buy Hong Kong?
Oh, non-white people. Never mind.
kindness
I guess Trump not going to Denmark because Obama is going 2 weeks later is more reasonable than the idea that Denmark won’t consider selling Trump Greenland. But in all honesty is it reasonable at all to back out of the visit because you 1) don’t want to get shown up by a black man & 2) give and excuse about not being able to negotiate the purchase of a foreign territory? No.
A much better excuse would have been, ‘Na dude, I can’t make it that day. I’m seeing a doctor that afternoon. My bone spurs are acting up.’
Jeffro
@catclub: I have to tell you, trumpov has seriously made me reconsider my atheism more than a few times. I think only the fact that he is so plainly stupid-malicious instead of cunning-malicious is holding me back
Otherwise, he fits the description to a tee.
Steve in the ATL
@TenguPhule:
“Few”? FEW? That number should be ZERO if not lower. Sheesh.
JPL
@Dorothy A. Winsor: So many nasty women.
Jeffro
@Betty Cracker: Geez. Zus.
“THEYLOVEMETHEYREALLYDOYOUFAKENEWSMEDIADONTREPORTITBUTTHEYDO!!!!1!”
Holy-oly-cow.
JaySinWA
@Dorothy A. Winsor: They have been trying to squeeze the juice out of the 14th by focusing laser like on that
clause. As I understand it that keeps diplomats children from becoming citizens if both parents are not subject to US law. The claim that undocumented immigrants are no subject to US law is ludicrous, but were talking wingnut here.
Brachiator
@Mike in NC:
Ssshhh. Don’t tell Trump. Greenland is 88 percent Inuit, and 12 percent Danes and other Europeans.
FlipYrWhig
I should have known this Denmark thing would turn into “all these other countries are ungrateful for my, I mean America’s, majestic might.”
rikyrah
@TenguPhule:
Aren’t 4 out of 5 of his children Anchor Babies?
rikyrah
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I will say it again…
Birthright citizenship is the shiny object….
But. don’t let it slip by you..
they want the 14th Amendment because it is the foundation of everything positive that has happened legally since 1954.
CindyH
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Ha! I went to Paris last September and was given wonderful service by the cafe owner across the street from where I was staying – spoke to him in my pathetic French and he was so sweet about it and helped me muddle through. On my last day, he wished me safe travels back to Canada! I did not correct him.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@JaySinWA: This question has come up in a small way in my own family. Our Mom (deceased) was born here but her parents’ immigration status was let us say murky. Somebody has convinced my sister that means Mom was not a citizen. I’ve tried to tell her the Constitution is pretty clear on that but she’s insisting otherwise.
Honestly I can’t see what difference it makes.
Barbara
@TenguPhule: Idaho is one of the fastest growing states in the nation. It’s not big, but the in-migration from both other states and other countries is significant, though unlikely to shift the outcome of statewide elections anytime soon. It’s not just housing costs, it’s also the purchase of land that has long been viewed as subject to “common” rights. It’s a little terrifying to think of the kinds of conflicts like this that are going to rise to the surface over the next few years.
Brachiator
@TenguPhule:
More complicated than that. The most recent Spidey movie grossed a billion bucks and Disney only got a relatively small piece of that, and merchandise rights. Both sides are greedy bastards, but a huge degree of the creativity in the films came from Disney/Marvel. The Sony chief is not noted for his movie smarts. It’s too bad that these dopes could not find a way to make this work. But I fear that Sony will fuck it up big time.
Tazj
@Kay: There are people in my family that are conservative evangelicals. Although they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Trump, they didn’t vote for anyone for president in 2016, they agree with other conservative Christians that abortion and gay marriage are the biggest problems in the US and that the US would be punished if we allow these things to continue. Everything else can be overlooked if eventually the country transforms into their version of a Christian country.
I don’t know what they’ll think now that Trump has become crazier. Maybe the excuse will be that he’s bad but that God can bring good out of a bad situation, like this had to happen for there to be a conservative Supreme Court.
JaySinWA
@Barbara: Hopefully very little of that migration is a response to the white enclave project.
Miss Bianca
@mrmoshpotato: You’re welcome. > : >
Roger Moore
@Betty Cracker:
If he wanted the news media to report that, maybe he should have allowed reporters in to document his visit.
Brachiator
@Elizabelle:
Trump will come back to this. He is afraid that a recession would make him look bad. He falsely thinks this tax cut might help.
Plus, he really wants to cut the tax on capital gains. This mainly helps the rich, so he needs to be able to toss the middle class a bone.
Citizen Alan
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Marisa Tomei was jarring at first, but I’ve always preferred proactive interpretations of Aunt May to doddering old biddies who live just to have heart palpitations every time Peter needs more drama in his life. I have never understood how a 16-year-old boy can plausibly have an octogenarian “aunt.”
Jeffro
@Roger Moore: Just trying to picture Obama railing that basically everyone anywhere near his presence “loves” him, and railing at the news media for not reporting that “love”.
Much less Clinton doing that.
Whenever you’re ready, national snooze media…
Brachiator
@Roger Moore:
Next, he will claim that he healed the sick and raised the dead.
Citizen Alan
@Tazj:
I despise people like that. I tell them to their faces that I don’t think they’re really Christians. And I mean it too.
Origuy
@JaySinWA: “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” also applied to American Indians until the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. Native Americans who had left their traditional nations or joined the armed forces generally had citizenship; others did not.
Frankensteinbeck
@Jeffro:
Obama is not a Republican, elected by Republicans to represent Republican voters and interests. It’s not just IOKIYAR. This kind of resentful whining that everyone actually loves them and it’s not fair that they’re not being universally praised for their asshole behavior is the Republican voter.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Ever since the GM plant closed, he is probably right.
Brachiator
@rikyrah:
Why not both? Trump always has been and always will be a white nationalist and nativist. His eye is on 1924 and the immigration bill that imposed strict quotas on some groups, and outright exclusion of others. He wants to limit citizenship to white people, and immigration to white people with money.
Omnes Omnibus
@Cheryl Rofer: You can edit it down to anyone who thinks war is a good idea should be nowhere near the levers of power. War may at times be necessary, but that just means that is the best of the bad options.
J R in WV
@Citizen Alan:
I agree… they are not Christians. If I were a Christian (I’m not, closer to Pagan/Agnostic) I would say that too,, but since I’m not, I would feel strange criticizing someone else’s Christianity. Quite strange.
But they are not Christian if they don’t believe in the teachings of Christ, can’t be done, either you’re in or you are not.
Mnemosyne
@Betty Cracker:
That’s the weird thing about narcissists — they care what people think of them to the extent that they get enraged when they find out that other people don’t think as highly of them as they (pretend to) think of themselves. They have no ability to actually read other people or adjust their wants and needs to what others want and need, so they end up raging a LOT when they discover that other people have different thoughts and desires. In many ways, they really are emotional toddlers who never learned to differentiate between themselves and others.
Omnes Omnibus
@rikyrah: That may be their goal, but how are they going to pass the Amendment to repeal the 14th?
boatboy_srq
Way late to this, but a thought nonetheless:
We should all remember that Herod was also king of the same land. That doesn’t make him especially laudable either.
Tazj
@Citizen Alan: I’ve gotten very angry with people in my family over this and have had arguments with them over politics. I’ve been honest about what my views are and said my peace. In the family I grew up in, there were 7 children, my oldest sister died. She was a liberal Democrat. Of the six remaining 4 are liberal Democrats and two are conservatives.
To be honest the people I’m most angry at are the leaders of certain evangelical churches. I know my family members are adults and are ultimately responsible for their views but I hate the way these pastors constantly prioritize abortion and anti-gay theology above everything else. I feel like people who craved companionship and a sense of community have been manipulated by them.
chopper
@Spanky:
golden calf? trump is a butter sculpture at best.
VOR
@CindyH: I learned how to say “I don’t speak French. Do you speak English?” in French. Simple phrase. I found that if you made an attempt, and used words like “Merci”, it went a very long way.
I recall my wife and I had dinner at a cafe with sidewalk seating a block from the Eiffel Tower. An American couple at the next table was complaining about how rude the French were. Apparently their strategy for communication was to speak English louder, as if that would solve the communications gap. Then they watched us interact with the waiter and order dinner via pointing at the menu and holding up fingers, plus a few “Merci” and “S’il vous plait”. The waiter was all smiles and friendly – to us. American couple got mad and left.
mrmoshpotato
@Miss Bianca: Thank you.
mrmoshpotato
@rikyrah: Yes, and Dump himself is an anchor baby.
Mnemosyne
@VOR:
One of the funniest conversations I’ve ever had was when a cleaning person told me that she didn’t realize that one of our cats was hiding under the bedcovers when she went to strip them off and change the sheets, and she and the cat scared the heck out of each other.
The conversation was primarily through hand gestures and a few words because I don’t speak much Spanish and she didn’t speak much English, but the humor definitely came across for both of us.
Ruckus
@VOR:
When I was last in Europe I learned hello, please and thank you in the language for each town I visited. Other sailors would come back to the ship and say that no one spoke english. I never asked anyone to speak english but always managed, with those 4 words to have people speak english to me or at the very least know what I was asking for. Always. Had a lot of wonderful conversations with many people in all of the countries. Even got to dance with a wonderful girl from Spain who didn’t speak any English. Good times.
rikyrah
@Omnes Omnibus:
Do you know how many states they are close to getting to call a Constitutional Convention?
They only need a handful more of GOP controlled state legislatures.
Tehanu
@Adam L Silverman:
In Dump’s case, the golden toilets absolutely have to be included. In fact, he should be embalmed sitting on one.
Adam L Silverman
@JaySinWA: I’m suggesting they’re going to build a huge pyramid over the continental US and wall us off inside it with him.
TenguPhule
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Would not take that bet.
Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: The media couldn’t report it, even if it was true, which it isn’t, because the White House advance team banned them from entering the hospital.
debbie
Driving home, I listened to an NPR interview with an American rabbi in regard to Trump’s statements about support of Democratic candidates equaling anti-Semitism. Interestingly, the rabbi several times used the term “Jew” instead of “Jewish person,” yet she was not called out as anti-Semitic by the interviewer. I wonder what those who called me anti-Semitic for using the same term a couple of days ago have to say about that.
debbie
@Cheryl Rofer:
I’ve known a couple “Jews turned Evangelical Christians” (as Wiki refers to Root), and they’re all nuts. Period.
sm*t cl*de
@TenguPhule:
Wait until the Danes present the bill for 70 years unpaid rent on the Thule base complex.
rp
@debbie: are you Jewish?
Omnes Omnibus
@rikyrah: Which 38 states would ratify an amendment repealing the 14Th Amendment?
Mai naem mobile
@Brachiator: we did not need a fucking capital gains tax cut. Jeezus. It’s only 15 percent right now. If you can’t make money on a 15 percent tax you’re in the wrong business. More transfer of wealth upward.
sm*t cl*de
@Brachiator:
The offer to buy a section of the Danish population (and the land they occupy) was an insult… Demanding an invitation to a State Visit, and then spurning it at the last minute (by Twitter), that was an insult… Then claiming that a rejection of his advances was an insult not just to him but to all of the US, requiring an insult to the Danish PM (and by extension, all of Denmark)…
All Danish politicians are united in their contempt and disgust with Trump at the moment. It does not bear thinking about the outcry if the invitation to visit were to be renewed.
debbie
@rp:
Yes.