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Following reporting rules is only for the little people, apparently.

“I never thought they’d lock HIM up,” sobbed a distraught member of the Lock Her Up Party.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

Celebrate the fucking wins.

with the Kraken taking a plea, the Cheese stands alone.

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

My right to basic bodily autonomy is not on the table. that’s the new deal.

Polls are now a reliable indicator of what corporate Republicans want us to think.

Russia bombs Ukraine’s maternity hospitals; Republicans in the House can’t sort out supporting Ukraine.

President Biden is doing good where he can, and getting it done.

Second rate reporter says what?

Cancel the cowardly WaPo and set up an equivalent monthly donation to ProPublica.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Republicans in disarray!

This must be what justice looks like, not vengeful, just peaceful exuberance.

Republican obstruction dressed up as bipartisanship. Again.

I’m more Christian than these people and I’m an atheist.

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.

This really is a full service blog.

“woke” is the new caravan.

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One of the many good reasons I don’t have a twitter account is that I am (you will be shocked to learn) extremely prone to jumping into arguments with both feet, frequently in my mouth. Forty years of being oh gawd not her again taught me that much, at least…


 
Speaking of people who could do to learn the fine art of ShutTheFvckUpAlready:


 
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  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Omg we get it, Paul Ryan is moving to DC. Enough with the click-bait headlines already.

    Heh. Good thing she’s not talking about the Bretbug. Her boss might get a whiny note telling them how mean she is.

  6. 6.

    Amir Khalid

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:
    I’m guessing it wasn’t quite so pricey back when whoever decided to start growing grapes there. Someone might still decide to buy it up and start growing condos instead.

  7. 7.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Amir Khalid: Ah, they don’t have condos in Bel-Air. Mega-mansions is more the style there.

    ETA: The really, really wealthy in LA live in the hills, Bel-Air is the hills on the westside. That’s probably about a million an acre, undeveloped.

  12. 12.

    Quinerly

    So has anybody else been reading about the DC doctor who says her husband has left her for Ilhan Omah? Not linking to the pieces. He’s a political consultant on Omah’s payroll. Looks like The Root and BuzzFeed have now picked it up. Originally NY Post story.

  14. 14.

    Quinerly

    @Baud: The reports are he travels with her everywhere. Worked on her campaign. Been paid in 6 figures. He’s in his 30’s, wife in her 50’s, has a young son. Omah named in the divorce. Omah still married to her second husband.

  16. 16.

    Baud

    @Quinerly:

    That’s an unfortunate distraction. Quick internet searches indicate these are divorce allegations. Let’s await her response.

    Rare to find a male in his 30s married to a woman in her 50s.

  19. 19.

    satby

    Good morning all! I just checked the tracking on all my high powered flea pesticides and they’re all being delivered today ahead of schedule. So far the score is fleas 1, satby 0. Hoping I can eliminate them without having to bug bomb. I have to wear Deet inside the house. UGH!
    I guess I’m glad it’s not bedbugs though ?

  20. 20.

    Amir Khalid

    @Quinerly:
    I noticed that the guy’s political consultancy is called The E Street Group. That name sounds vaguely familiar …

  29. 29.

    Baud

    @rikyrah: I don’t really care about politicians’ personal lives as long they are not being moral hypocrites, but if she’s in a romantic relationship with someone her office or campaign is doing business with, that could be an issue.

  33. 33.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Amir Khalid: Plenty more where that came from:
    When you come to a fork in the road, take it.
    If you don’t know where you are going, you’ll end up someplace else.
    A nickel ain’t worth a dime anymore.
    It gets late early out there.
    It’s like deja vu all over again.

    Some of them make no sense at all

  34. 34.

    Quinerly

    @OzarkHillbilly: I’ve done tons of music fests and camped for years with groups at those grody pre Katrina campgrounds on Chef Menteur Highway in NOLA for Jazz Fest. At least two lifetimes ago. Burning Man holds no interest for me. I think Soulard still has has about 4 regulars who go. All over 60 years of age. I’ve seen the pics and videos. No thanks.

  35. 35.

    Chyron HR

    @Quinerly:

    Well, Rep. Omar has made it clear that she doesn’t want to associate with the evil neoliberal Demoshit party, so I wish her luck weathering this alone.

  36. 36.

    satby

    @Quinerly: I ‘m not giving clicks to anything that wants to lay blame on the woman for a male’s actions. He’s the one getting divorced, it’s his marriage that’s in question. Not Omar’s. But she’s the homewrecker? Plus what Baud says about personal lives.

  40. 40.

    Quinerly

    @satby: I’m just citing the headline in The Root. Don’t shoot me as the messenger. No one asked you to click. The story has legs. Evil Minnesota NPR has picked it up. ?

  42. 42.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @satby: Many years ago some friends asked me to house sit while they were on a cross country tour with their furry children. I didn’t last 5 mins in that house. It was impossible. Being the only available blood source, I had hundreds of bites in that time. You could see hordes of them crossing the floor to get me.

    I ran away.

    When I came back I had bombs, indoor sprays for all the clothes, furniture and rugs, and outdoor spray for the yards. The house was probably eligible for listing as a Super Fund site by the time I got done with it, but they came home to flea free house.

  44. 44.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Chyron HR: Are we supposed to be hating Omar this week? I must have missed the memo.

    Also what should her fellow Representatives be doing for her being named in a divorce if she was on the approved list?

  45. 45.

    Gin & Tonic

    John Bolton apparently visits Ukraine, neglecting to mention that he’s coming until the night before. Tries to convince the new government to be wary of Chinese investment in an airplane company, but offers no alternative investment ideas. Leaves for Belarus.

  46. 46.

    debbie

    Power and internet down last night. I wake up to BoJo wanting to suspend Parliament. Is there much outrage over this?

  47. 47.

    Kay

    Went to the county D meeting last night. We have a challenger for Latta (US House) – Latta is safe but it’s good to have a challenger and the last couple of cycles we always have had one- maybe more than “last couple of cycles”- since 2004 or so. Time flies :)
    The candidate is a “labor candidate” – here that means a labor union recruited him and will donate to him. Labor unions are really irreplaceable here- we simply don’t get the kind of year after year consistency on putting forward candidates from any other group. They aren’t a big proportion of Democrats (although maybe more here than in some other areas of Ohio- we have a lot of unionized employers) but they really are essential. No other groups even come close to how organized they are and how long they have been at this.
    In other news, our Democrats mostly still like Joe Biden. I ask. No one minds and they seem happy to offer an opinion so my sense is they like to be asked, or they are just being nice to me. Anyway. We remain a hotbed of Bidenness :)

  48. 48.

    Keith P.

    It’s a given that as soon as PR gets hit by another hurricane, Trump is going to start pitching the idea of trading PR to Denmark for Greenland, right?

  50. 50.

    Baud

    @Kay:

    I don’t know if Biden will ultimately win, and he’s not my first choice by any means, but I think the Internet is a bit full of itself in assuming that no one genuinely prefers him.

  51. 51.

    Quinerly

    @rikyrah: both married with young children. I think her 3 are fairly young and his is 12 or 13. The divorce alleges he had Omar at his and his wife’s home, when wife was out of town but son there. I adore her and didn’t mean to get folks so riled. Just asked if anyone else had read about it. Personally, I’m disturbed by the story. It’s the 6 figure payroll thing and everyone’s judgment and timing. It will be beat to death in the press. Another distraction.

  55. 55.

    Quinerly

    @Baud: actually, I know a lot of politically engaged women who prefer him. I think a lot of people want a break from the day to day crap that goes with Trump. Simpler times. Know several women who actually prefer Liz or Kamala but feel if one or the other wins, there will be relentless attacks, derangement much like the Right was over Obama. Some people are just exhausted from keeping up and just literally want an older White guy, who is not Bernie, almost as a place holder for 4 years to see if the fever breaks. Full disclosure, there are times I feel like that, too. Oddly, not hearing this from men. These women are very Progressive/Liberal and are all over 50. Exhausted.

  57. 57.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    And they do “genuinely prefer” him- it isn’t fear of losing. They like him. They know him and they trust him.

    I think people sometimes miss why labor is so important to Democrats. It isn’t labor voters- it’s the organizational capacity and experience and how they know so many people in D politics because they have been at this so long. It never gets replaced because there is nothing quite like it. I suppose it COULD, but D groups come and go and labor is the constant. They have an institutional memory that just doesn’t exist in any other liberal or Democratic group that I interact with. It was always possible for them to be replaced, it’s just no one ever did it.

  59. 59.

    Amir Khalid

    @Quinerly:
    There’s not enough information out there to say it looks really bad for Ilhan Omar, so I’d withhold any judgement for now.

  60. 60.

    Quinerly

    @Baud: yep.
    So let’s move on to Lawrence O’Donnell saying his sources reveal Russian oligarchs are co signers on Trump’s loans with Deutsche Bank. ?

  62. 62.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    Also I see Lawrence O’Donnell says Russian oligarchs cosigned Trump’s Deutsche Bank loans.

    It is apparently unsafe for me to sleep at night. Bad things happen when I’m not on watch.

  63. 63.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    We have a booth at the fair in September and we’re going to do that mason jar/corn poll that you see in Iowa. We’ll have them vote every day and then tally daily results towards a 4 day grand total. I think it will be fun for our voters and I have this insane idea that fake voting might lead to real voting. Perhaps? Of course, Republicans could screw with our vote but they only get one vote a day per person so it won’t be totally bogus.

  64. 64.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Quinerly:

    It will be beat to death in the press. Another distraction.

    Just like with Chump. Really, who among the Repubs can say anything at all? I gleefully await their self serving hypocritical moralizing.

  66. 66.

    Kay

    @Quinerly:

    Thanks. There’s this kind of myth that they “turn out” voters and that’s the value, but obviously they can’t and don’t direct members votes. They punch over their weight here because they do the things they do consistently and well over decades, like finding candidates in impossible districts and then supporting those candidates, or phonebanking. It’s not flashy or creative but it is consistent. I cannot tell you how many liberal or D groups have moved thru here and then either petered out or moved on- there is ONE constant presence, and it is labor unions.

  67. 67.

    Amir Khalid

    @satby:
    It would be unprecedented for the Queen to refuse to prorogue Parliament, if BoJo “advises” i.e. tells her to. As PM, he’s the one in charge here.

  68. 68.

    germy

    @OzarkHillbilly: It’s interesting what news bubbles up into the mass media.

    I saw the Omar story last night on “Inside Edition”

    But I’ve never seen “Inside Edition” do any stories about the racist links in DOJ emails, or stories about republicans inviting holocaust-deniers to SOTU speeches.

    I’m going to embrace my paranoia here and say that any story that casts doubts and shadows on a democrat will make it into every living room in the country, via CBS/NBC/ABC evening news, while the republican stuff will only be chewed on in blogs like this or in alternative media that nobody reads.

  70. 70.

    Baud

    @Quinerly:

    I feel like that sometimes too. But I know it doesn’t really matter which Dem is in the White House. The other side won’t stop.

  73. 73.

    satby

    @Amir Khalid: the entire thing is an unprecedented mess. So she may as well refuse, he’s outraged the opposition and jeopardized the union with Scotland again. Northern Ireland and Wales seem displeased too.

  75. 75.

    Baud

    @Kay:

    I agree that the main thing Dems have lost is organizing capability. The modern view seems to be organize by messaging, which has its limitations.

  76. 76.

    Quinerly

    @Kay: He gets on my nerves. Pompous. I’m so old that I remember those long wind ups every time he mentioned Trump’s name pre election and how “Donald Trump will never be president.” If you were even somewhat of a regular watcher back then, you have to remember those. I made the mistake of believing him.

  77. 77.

    Quinerly

    @Steve in the ATL: That’s how I felt until other outlets picked it up and read the court filings.
     “The parties physically separated on or about April 7, 2019, when Defendant told Plaintiff that he was romantically involved with and in love with another woman, Ilhan Omar.”

  78. 78.

    Baud

    @Amir Khalid:

    It’s odd that Parliament doesn’t control their own sitting. Even Congress does that. (The president can force them into session, but i don’t think he can suspend them.)

  79. 79.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    It’s just that when you have been around a while these organizing ideas are presented as new, and they’re not. It’s an old idea. Everyone essentially does it the same way. There’s this insistence that people can “reinvent” things and they can, but only to a certain extent. There aren’t 5000 ways to do this. We need less “innovation” and more dull plodding :)

    It’s always been a problem with Democrats. We have a LOT of managers but we lack line employees :)

    Consistency is underrated. People operate within personal relationships. Those have to be maintained. Lefties have (sadly and tragically) put this into the lump of “the establishment” but what it is are people who have done this for years and know one another. There’s nothing wrong with that. I would argue it’s essential.

  80. 80.

    Amir Khalid

    @satby:
    It’s well established there that the monarch doesn’t get to overrule the PM. That would be seen as unconstitutional* and tantamount to overthrowing democracy itself. I’m not sure the Queen could say Britain was in an existential crisis (even though right now it could very well be true) and use that to shut BoJo down.

    *Britain does have a constitution, I have read; they just never actually wrote it down.

  81. 81.

    Baud

    @Kay:

    It’s always been a problem with Democrats. We have a LOT of managers but we lack line employees :)

    I agree. Another way to look at it is that we have a lot of creative visionaries, but not a lot of executers.

  82. 82.

    Betty Cracker

    @Kay: I don’t know a single Biden backer whose support isn’t based on fear, but my sample size is very small and skews flinchy. ;-)

  85. 85.

    satby

    @Amir Khalid: well, we here in the US are just appalled that another country decided to put a Trumplike goon in charge. And just like here, it seems there’s no way to derail the crazy. Massive institutional failure.

  86. 86.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    And there have been dumb ideas. In the early 2000’s there was this idea (taken from the private sector) that one could do “pop up” organizing. Lean and mean. Just In Time. Drop X number in, do a cycle, then fold up the tent. Efficient use of funding. That doesn’t align with how people are. People value relationships and it isn’t “starting” something that’s hard, it’s growing and maintaining it. It’s taken a LONG time for these private sector approaches to be discredited.

  87. 87.

    Baud

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    From what I gather, Parliament gets “suspended” every year and then a new Parliament returns. The timing of these things is apparently under the control of the Prime Minister.

  88. 88.

    Amir Khalid

    @Baud:
    BoJo is head of the majority party in the House of Conmen. That gives him the authority to “advise” (in effect, to instruct) Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament.

  89. 89.

    Baud

    @Amir Khalid: Right, but in the U.S., Congress actually votes to adjourn. It doesn’t sound like Parliament will get a vote on whether to prorogue and when.

  95. 95.

    Ken

    @Amir Khalid: Paraphrasing Charles Stross, Britain does have a constitution, but it’s embodied in about twenty different Acts of Parliament, and Parliament reserves the power to rewrite any of it whenever they want.

  99. 99.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    From Kos, re building The Wall:

    But sources are reporting that Trump isn’t about to let things like stealing private property or violating any other law get in his way. Instead he told his officials, “Don’t worry, I’ll pardon you.”

    Why isn’t this man in jail?

  101. 101.

    Quinerly

    For those of you on the Evil Book of Faces, if you just need a pick me up and a sweet laugh, check out “Hogan’s Adventures.” I got hooked one night and went back in time to July on his timeline to when Hogan tore up his bed and had an adventure at Lowe’s. I may have mentioned Hogan before. I’m a sucker for talking dogs. (Going back to that cinema masterpiece, “A Boy and His Dog,” starring Don Johnson, but I digress?)

  109. 109.

    Tony Jay

    @debbie:

    Oh hell yes.

    Everyone from the Speaker of the House to the rentboys working around the back of it are unified in their outrage at what is a transparently ‘clever’ wheeze Flobalob’s cabal of plotters have come up with to, a) solidify Johnson’s Brextremist credentials before the coming Election, and b) troll the anti-No Deal factions and their Remainer allies of convenience into ‘forcing’ him into said Election. Once the British Media (I’m looking at you BBC) have finished wiping down their overstimulated nether-regions they might notice that Flobalob’s ‘raffish and unconventional’ approach to democratic Government is more than likely to blow up in his face.

    Personally, I think Johnson is scared shitless of a No-Deal and is desperate to provoke and lose a No Confidence vote so that he can campaign as the Champion of the (Right) People and get hold of five uninterrupted years to figure out some way to unfuck the poultry. It’s a wildly unlikely idea that relies on Johnson being a mendacious liar of titanic proportions….. so it’s likely 100% dead on.

  110. 110.

    Another Scott

    @Quinerly: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632

    My quick scan of it – Parliament would be out for 23 days – a very long time. But there’s still time to block BoJo’s plans. It sounds like Parliament (and the Queen) can’t stop it, but the courts may get involved.

    People over there should plan on it happening and have legislation ready to go on Monday to stop BoJo’s crash plans before he can shut down the Parliament (if that’s possible).

    We’ll see.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  111. 111.

    Amir Khalid

    @satby:
    She’s been taking weekly briefings from prime ministers longer than a lot of these clowns have been alive. She’s savvier about politics than a lot of them and is, I suspect, appalled at their ineptitude and the damage it is causing the country.

  112. 112.

    A Ghost To Most

    As a non-truster of dogs, this is often how it feels to live in a world of dog obsessives.

    Carry on. Watch out for the random kick to the chops, though, if you come too close.

  115. 115.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    It is apparently unsafe for me to sleep at night. Bad things happen when I’m not on watch.

    That’s why women are so exhausted with this administration. It’s just one damn thing after another.

  116. 116.

    Tony Jay

    @A Ghost To Most:

    Not without sparking off a Constitutional crisis that would make Brexit itself look like a twitterspat between feuding Baldwin brothers. The Monarchy follows the ‘advice’ of the Prime Minister in their role as spokeperson for a majority of the House of Commons’ MPs. What Flobalob is asking for is undemocratic and immoral, but it’s (currently believed to be) legal, and Monarchs don’t get to fuck with Parliament’s authority.

    Personally, shit like this is why we need an elected Head of State with clearly defined powers and responsibilities rather than an unelected winner of the womb-lottery.

  117. 117.

    Spanky

    @Tony Jay:

    Personally, shit like this is why we need an elected Head of State with clearly defined powers and responsibilities rather than an unelected winner of the womb-lottery.

    Oh! Someone like Trump, then.

  121. 121.

    glory b

    @Quinerly: I fit that category of women, and I feel the same, exhausted.

    A number of African American women I know (including me) would also add that voting for him is the closest we can get to voting for Obama again. Not happy with a lot of younger dems who are are sniffing at his record as inadequate.

    I don’t want to agree with Joe Scarborough, but he was right when he said the candidates are crazy for distancing themselves from and sniping at the most popular Democratic politician in a generation. He still has 90+% approval from self identified dems.

  123. 123.

    Tony Jay

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Maybe. I’ve said over and over and over again for years that the only way to stop Brexit is for the Tory Party to split and enough Tory MPs to vote with the Opposition against their own Party. Now that we’re getting right up to the very edge of the precipice you can practically smell the flop-sweat pouring out of them but they STILL have to make that decision. Party or Country. Bring down Johnston’s regime or cling on to their titles for a little bit longer.

    It’s a shitty situation to be in, but it is where we are. All we can do is stick to our guns and not get distracted by the organised chorus of bots and trolls trying to spread despair. The Brextremists are desperate and they’re led by a mendacious chancer who would throw them under the bus in a split second if he thought he could get away with it.

    No Confidence vote. General Election. New Referendum. Everything else is wanking in the dark.

  125. 125.

    Another Scott

    @Tony Jay: The BBC radio show on our local NPR station this morning was devoting a lot of time to BoJo’s machinations (as expected). One of the reporters said that polling (dunno how recent) indicates that a majority of the country still favors Brexit when asked in the abstract, but he mumbled something about when asked about the details (e.g. even with no Brexit agreement?) the public was less in favor.

    Is this really the case?? After 3+ years of this stuff, does the country still want to go over that cliff??

    If so, I’m flabbergasted.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  126. 126.

    Tony Jay

    @Another Scott:

    Is this really the case?? After 3+ years of this stuff, does the country still want to go over that cliff??

    Really? I’d have to check that out because I’m pretty sure all of the polling for the last year or so has shown the Remain percentage going steadily up. Vague recollection that the last poll I read had it up by 8%.

    OTOH I wouldn’t be surprised if the BBC pushed an outlier poll that heavily oversampled white, rural, late middle-aged Tory voting Gammons to get the numbers they wanted. Ever since Cameron stacked the BBC leadership with his people they’ve been an out-and-out cheerleader cum propaganda mouthpiece for the ‘natural Party of Government’.

  127. 127.

    Brachiator

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    I haven’t read the night threads yet. Did we already talk about Boris Johnson asking the queen to suspend Parliament? Are we already over that?

    Just saw the news about this. An awful, bold move. He’s trying to out do Trump for outrageous behavior. He just might succeed.

  129. 129.

    Brachiator

    @glory b:

    A number of African American women I know (including me) would also add that voting for him is the closest we can get to voting for Obama again.

    This is, at best, only partly true. Biden is a tired old man trying to ignite his old presidential ambitions. Those ambitions were in place long before Obama picked him to be VP. We would not even be getting an echo of a shadow of Obama with Biden.

    I don’t want to agree with Joe Scarborough, but he was right when he said the candidates are crazy for distancing themselves from and sniping at the most popular Democratic politician in a generation. He still has 90+% approval from self identified dems

    I think you’re right here. Maybe the other candidates think that they will help Biden if they praise Obama. They need to get over this foolishness. Quickly.

  130. 130.

    Brachiator

    @Tony Jay:

    What Flobalob is asking for is undemocratic and immoral, but it’s (currently believed to be) legal, and Monarchs don’t get to fuck with Parliament’s authority.

    As an American who could not even pretend to understand UK government, lemme ask a question. I thought that Parliament holds the ultimate political power. I thought that Boris Johnson is the head of the government, but technically not the head of Parliament. So, is there any way that Parliament could overrule Johnson’s actions?

  131. 131.

    Tony Jay

    @Brachiator:

    Basically, Parliament is sovereign, as in it is the ultimate arbiter of the nation’s laws, but Parliament (the House of Commons, to be exact) officially consists of more than 600 MPs with their own constituents who they are supposed to be representing. The Government is just whichever grouping or faction can tell the Monarch that they can provide a majority of MPs for important votes, the defining one of which is the Budget. The Party system is, at its heart, just the method of enforcing discipline on individual MPs who promise to vote for certain policies included in the Party manifesto (if they win the Election) in return for support from the Party machinery.

    This is my long winded way of saying that Johnson’s only authority comes from the 1 seat majority held in Parliament by his Tories and their DUP allies, and yes it’s quite possible for Parliament to overrule him. Either by removing his majority (a Tory MP or two could lay down the Party whip or straight out join another Party) or by using Parliamentary procedure to grab control of Parliamentary business (via the same process that allowed the whole Indicative Vote scenario) or by rejiggering some other piece of legislation via amendments which can be made to say whatever a majority of Parliament want them to say. It’s unusual, but the Speaker has already said he’ll give Parliament every opportunity to defend its sovereignty against Government overreach.

    The whole point of Johnson’s propagation gambit is to ostensibly deny Parliament time to do any of this, leaving a Vote of No Confidence as the likeliest option.

  133. 133.

    J R in WV

    @Steve in the ATL:

    @Quinerly:
    Originally NY Post story

    Translation: isn’t true

    Wife called my attention to the story late last night. I noticed that every outlet covering the “story” was right wing, pretty much RWNJ, actually. So I’m thinking there’s zero evidence of truth, perhaps soon to be ex-wife fomenting rage in order to attempt to get sole custody, larger monetary settlement, etc.

    Just making the accusation carries no weight with me. I cannot believe the guy would invite his female boss to his house for a sexual assignation with his son in the house, not realistic at all.

    OT: formerly retired laptop now loaded with current version of Windoz 10, installed ad blocker, using MS Edge (? if that’s the right name?) for the first time. First time on Windoz since retired in 2008, taking a little while to get used to it, but ready to test multiple environments now when asked to fire up.

    ETA: Hurray, my first MS Windoz comment posted OK and appears the edit box is working too!!

  135. 135.

    debbie

    @Tony Jay:

    LOL, thanks. There’ll always be an England!

    Listening to BBC and NPR today, it seems most people are angry BoJoMo put the Queen in such a difficult position. Very rude, indeed.

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