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You are here: Home / Nature & Respite / Respite Open Thread: Happy Birthday, Lily Tomlin

Respite Open Thread: Happy Birthday, Lily Tomlin

by Anne Laurie|  September 1, 20198:44 pm| 147 Comments

This post is in: Because of wow., I'm With Her 2016, Nature & Respite, Open Threads, Popular Culture, Women's Rights Are Human Rights

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Lily Tomlin was born September 1, 1939. pic.twitter.com/Y5bzMumBFt

— Van Dyke Parks (@thevandykeparks) September 1, 2019

A patron saint for this, our moment in time…

“No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up.”

#HappyBirthday to #LilyTomlin, whose breakout role was as a cast member on the NBC sketch comedy series #RowanAndMartinsLaughIn, btd 1939. pic.twitter.com/NFz74vcm2S

— Silver Age Television ? (@SilverAgeTV) September 1, 2019

“the road to success is always under construction.” • Lily Tomlin | ? pic.twitter.com/ndNATKOEep

— a e s t h e t i c (@aesthetic_paf) August 31, 2019

Happy birthday to Lily Tomlin ?? pic.twitter.com/RSqcojNJ0i

— ilona (@ilonarcari) September 1, 2019

Happy 80th Birthday to Lily Tomlin! The voice of Miss Frizzle in The Magic School Bus, Mommo in The Ant Bully, and Toki in Ponyo. #LilyTomlin pic.twitter.com/k8OJhUemHT

— Alec Behan (@alec_behan) September 1, 2019

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  1. 1.

    Raven

    September 1, 2019 at 8:50 pm

    Lily tryin to get a waffle from “Blue in the Face.

  2. 2.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    September 1, 2019 at 8:52 pm

    Watched the Magic Schoolbus a lot in elementary school and have some of the books somewhere. Had no idea she voiced the Frizz.

    “Please let this be a normal field trip.”

  3. 3.

    prufrock

    September 1, 2019 at 8:53 pm

    Don’t forget, the voice of Aunt May in Into The Spiderverse.

  4. 4.

    Yutsano

    September 1, 2019 at 8:57 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: With a theme song done by Little Richard, no less!

  5. 5.

    Lee Hartmann

    September 1, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    What a date to be born on… A good thing that happened then.

  6. 6.

    NotMax

    September 1, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    (mini-rant)

    First day in a week when there wasn’t a MUST DO to take of.

    So naturally when I woke up this morning, expecting a day of vegging out, discovered the seal of the fill valve in the toilet was leaking. Pulling out the old ballcock assembly and replacing it with a newer float valve type isn’t going to be a difficult task, but boy it’s a tight squeeze to get under and in there

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    AliceBlue

    September 1, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    She’s rocking that Ramones tee-shirt!

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    Baud

    September 1, 2019 at 9:00 pm

    @prufrock:

    I just watched that. Had no idea.

  9. 9.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 1, 2019 at 9:00 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: According to my research… you know what, I don’t have the energy to complete the joke. :)

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    Yarrow

    September 1, 2019 at 9:04 pm

    She is just the best. Happy Birthday!

    @NotMax: My a/c went out last night. And then after it sat for a couple of hours it worked again. Boy was it hot while it wasn’t working. Too hot to sleep. I’m tired.

  11. 11.

    Baud

    September 1, 2019 at 9:04 pm

    @Yarrow:

    I can’t sleep in heat either.

  12. 12.

    Yarrow

    September 1, 2019 at 9:05 pm

    @Baud: Had the ceiling fan going but it didn’t help. Just so hot and humid. I hate summer.

  13. 13.

    Raven

    September 1, 2019 at 9:07 pm

    @NotMax: good training for you!

    I went to a car show today and a dude had a 51 dodge exactly like the one we moved from Chicago to LA in in 1956!
    https://flic.kr/p/7s9rYV

  14. 14.

    zhena gogolia

    September 1, 2019 at 9:08 pm

    Happy Birthday! She was born the day the Nazis invaded Poland.

  15. 15.

    ThresherK

    September 1, 2019 at 9:10 pm

    @Yarrow: My car A/C is doing the same thing, but in a smaller timeframe. I’m thinking it needs to be recharged with the magic coolant stuff. Maybe it’s the same with your system?

    Lily Tomlin and other celebrities our (sic) age in a comical PSA with John Oliver.

  16. 16.

    Brachiator

    September 1, 2019 at 9:12 pm

    I think I still remember the first Lily Tomlin tv special. She was giving a tribute to her home town, Detroit and these uptight auto executives, all in suits and ties, came out as though they were going to do some chamber of commerce presentation to her. Then they broke out into a soulful song and dance tribute to the city. Funny and slyly well executed. The special later won a boatload of Emmys for writing.

    Her first appearance on the Laugh In tv show

    https://youtu.be/WiOmSWEroUQ

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    Raven

    September 1, 2019 at 9:12 pm

    @Yarrow: It may have iced over, check your condensate line to see if it might be clogged.

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    frosty

    September 1, 2019 at 9:13 pm

    @Raven: Are you down to just a wakeup now?

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    Raven

    September 1, 2019 at 9:15 pm

    @frosty: Yea, I’m off tomorrow and have to turn some stuff in and have an exit interview Tuesday.

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    NotMax

    September 1, 2019 at 9:18 pm

    @Yarrow

    No a/c here*. Air has been brutally hot and torpid this past week. Normally am able to turn off the fan(s) once it is late night and be okay, however last night kept all three of them going non-stop to be able to go unconscious.

    *1) Not sure the wiring and circuit box in this cottage could handle the additional load.
    2) Much prefer not to receive an electric bill which has “continued in next envelope” printed on it.

  21. 21.

    Raven

    September 1, 2019 at 9:21 pm

    @NotMax: They had a sign in our condo warning us that, if we used the AC too much, they’d charge us extra.

  22. 22.

    Yarrow

    September 1, 2019 at 9:22 pm

    @ThresherK: Needed to do the a/c annual tune up this summer and didn’t do it because I got busy. It may need some coolant.

    @Raven: I think it has more to do with a terrible lightning storm we had this week. Power outages all over. My power went out, came back on, then went out again. I was running around unplugging everything because of the power surges. Turned off the a/c but not before a few of them. It’s been working okay since then but I’ve been keeping an eye on it.

    Then last night the power dimmed/went out two times in a row. Thinking maybe a squirrel got in a transformer or a lizard got in the a/c unit or something. Last night when I turned down the a/c I heard a weird buzzing but there were other noises–like the very annoying guy who takes out his deafening motorcycle every night at 10:30 pm or later and it also has some sound system playing at full blast–so I wasn’t quite sure if what I heard was the a/c buzzing or humming or some other sound.

    At 2:30 in the morning the unit felt hot. Let it rest for a few hours and at 4:30 it worked. Gonna call the a/c guys this week but thankfully don’t have to do it on Sunday or Monday of a holiday weekend now.

  23. 23.

    geg6

    September 1, 2019 at 9:24 pm

    Grace and Frankie is currently my favorite show ever. She and Jane Fonda are national treasures from that show alone.

  24. 24.

    Raven

    September 1, 2019 at 9:24 pm

    @Yarrow: Fan motor or the capacitor I spect.

    ETA I assume it’s central and not a window unit?

  25. 25.

    NotMax

    September 1, 2019 at 9:24 pm

    @Raven

    Being that worked at a summer camp for many years, and part of the job included doing maintenance (in exchange for living there year-round in the off-season), have danced this dance dozens of times previously.

    ;)

    Learned enough there to more than get by when it comes to plumbing, electrical and carpentry. And way too much about sewage lines and septic tanks.

  26. 26.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    September 1, 2019 at 9:29 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Oh yeah I forgot about that! Little Richard kind of fell off the face of the Earth back in the day, didn’t he? I think I read he retired from the music business and became a preacher or something.

    Rock has been known as a predominantly white genre since at least the late 60s, but rock n roll has its roots in African-American bluegrass and blues. I took a music class in college a few years ago and listened to an old blues/bluegrass song from the 40s. Sounded almost like a “modern” (50s-early 60s) rock song. You can definitely hear the influences

  27. 27.

    Raven

    September 1, 2019 at 9:29 pm

    @NotMax: Army snark for any shitty job. Sort of like “If you have a personal problem go see the chaplain and get your card punched”!

  28. 28.

    Betty Cracker

    September 1, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    Okay, I like the cut of her jib:

    The @NRA has bought the president and hand-picked a Congress that turns a blind eye to the gun violence epidemic happening in our nation. They gotta go. Vote.

    — Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) September 1, 2019

  29. 29.

    zhena gogolia

    September 1, 2019 at 9:33 pm

    Wow, I just did a little YouTube, and from a tip by Barack Obama I watched her and Richard Pryor in the “Juke and Opal” sketch. Brilliant.

    Richard Pryor was such a genius. They’re great together.

  30. 30.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 1, 2019 at 9:34 pm

    Was privileged to see her on Broadway years ago in the one-woman show “The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe”. We’re still quoting jokes from that show 30+ years later.

  31. 31.

    Raven

    September 1, 2019 at 9:36 pm

    @zhena gogolia: You wanna see some funny shit watch him and Robin Williams do To Kill a Mockingbird.

    https://youtu.be/bE1f4awlxVc

  32. 32.

    Ohio Mom

    September 1, 2019 at 9:37 pm

    @ThresherK: i recognize Shatner and Tomlin (who always seems ageless) but not the others. They look familiar but I can’t place them. Who are they?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 1, 2019 at 9:38 pm

    I saw her do The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life In The Universe live, I think in ’88. An amazing show, her energy on stage, shifting from character to character, incredible. I regret not making an effort to see it again. I heard the movie wasn’t put together very well, and I didn’t want to see it. I think enough time has passed I should seek it out

    Marc Marron said a couple weeks ago Lily Tomlin and Jane Wagner are one of his “white whale” interviews, people who just don’t want to do it, along with Albert Brooks and… somebody else who’s name escapes me.

  34. 34.

    Ruckus

    September 1, 2019 at 9:39 pm

    @ThresherK:
    Holly Shit that was fucking funny. Thank you.
    Best damn PSA I ever saw. Or flew on.

  35. 35.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 1, 2019 at 9:40 pm

    @NotMax:

    And way too much about sewage lines and septic tanks.

    It’s possible to know too much about sewage lines and septic tanks?

  36. 36.

    NotMax

    September 1, 2019 at 9:41 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    Trivia: “Rock and roll” was originally a slang term for sexual intercourse and years later was applied to music.

  37. 37.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 1, 2019 at 9:42 pm

    All of her movies are great of course, I’d watch her in anything. But one of my favorite pairings is with Steve Martin in All of Me

  38. 38.

    Ruckus

    September 1, 2019 at 9:43 pm

    @NotMax:

    Much prefer not to receive an electric bill which has “continued in next envelope” printed on it.

    QFT.
    Also needs a thanks for the laugh. Been a tough few days, always appreciate a laugh. Doesn’t necessarily make things better, in fact it sometimes hurts, but a good laugh is always worthwhile, hurts to or not.

  39. 39.

    NotMax

    September 1, 2019 at 9:44 pm

    @mrmoshpotato

    You betchum, Red Ryder.

    ;)

  40. 40.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    September 1, 2019 at 9:44 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    The @NRA has bought the president and hand-picked a Congress that turns a blind eye to the gun violence epidemic happening in our nation. They gotta go. Vote.

    I like it overall, but a small nitpick: I don’t like that she says “Congress”. Yes, there are some Dems who appease the NRA, but they aren’t as numerous as they used to be. It’s 100% the Rs in Congress that block good gun legislation

  41. 41.

    J R in WV

    September 1, 2019 at 9:48 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    We saw the divine Miss Lily Tomlin on Broadway also. We got tickets just a day or two before the show, turned out to be in the THIRD row!!!

    Awesome.

  42. 42.

    Ruckus

    September 1, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    There may always be considered issues with anyone who has been a prosecutor but she’s my first choice. Smart, very capable, at least as far left as I am, has experience running a large bureaucracy. And I like that along with all that goodness she manages to be a black woman, I don’t know how she does it.
    Just in case – SFA – Snark Fucking Alert!

  43. 43.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    September 1, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    @NotMax:
    I can see it. Gives a whole new meaning to the “sex” part of “sex, drugs, and rock n’ roll” ; )

  44. 44.

    HinTN

    September 1, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    @Raven: Yeow, congrats!!!

  45. 45.

    schrodingers_cat

    September 1, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    Local politics dispatch:
    I am going to be on the town Democratic committee. So my name is going to be on the ballot on Super Tuesday. Our town is tiny, less than 3000 registered voters. Next week we are doing a canvass to register unregistered voters. I was working on the list and about 1/3 of the eligible voters are unregistered. Is that a high percentage? We are in the vicinity of many liberal arts colleges and a land grant university so some of these unregistered voters are students who could be registered elsewhere.

  46. 46.

    ThresherK

    September 1, 2019 at 9:51 pm

    @Ohio Mom: Fred Willard, Rita Moreno, and Cloris Leachman.

    @geg6: Tomlin, Fonda, Dolly Parton and Dabney Coleman were boffo in “9 to 5”, a movie which I thought should have launched a bigger movie career for Parton.

  47. 47.

    Ruckus

    September 1, 2019 at 9:52 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:
    It is possible to be way, way, way to familiar with sewage lines, septic tanks and all other forms of waste removal.

  48. 48.

    J R in WV

    September 1, 2019 at 9:53 pm

    @Ruckus:

    We always get three power bills. One for the actual house, one for the power drop for the well head, about 600-700 feet from the house, and the last for the shop building. That one is pretty cheap this time of year, less so in the winter time, I keep it just above 40 in the winters.

    The well head bill is usually $7 or $8 to pump the water up the hill. The neighbors share the well with us, no problems so far. Plus a team to work on failures!

  49. 49.

    Jay

    September 1, 2019 at 9:55 pm

    i know there’s bad in the world. and it would be silly. to pretend it isn’t there. but for now here’s my leash. and a few licks on your hand. to convince you that one day. we will be alright— Thoughts of Dog (@dog_feelings) August 4, 2019

  50. 50.

    zhena gogolia

    September 1, 2019 at 9:58 pm

    @Raven:

    Hilarious! The ending was brilliant!

  51. 51.

    Ruckus

    September 1, 2019 at 10:00 pm

    @J R in WV:
    I used to get 2 bills. One for the house, one for the shop. The house bill was normal for the area. The shop bill depended on if I ran the machines that cut using electricity (known as EDM) operated all night long. Which I always wanted them to do. Most expensive machines but highest return. Could run unattended – while I was sleeping! Had shop electric bills that would almost rival the rent. My current boss tells me the shop bill can be over $900/month in the summer. AC in the shop, but without that no one wants to stand at a machine in 95 deg +.

  52. 52.

    Jay

    September 1, 2019 at 10:01 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:

    Google “Little Red Rooster”,

    My Mom used to smuggle “race records” up from the US in the 1930’s. Banned in Canada.

  53. 53.

    Ohio Mom

    September 1, 2019 at 10:02 pm

    @ThresherK: Thank you! The moment I read those names everything clicked

  54. 54.

    Raven

    September 1, 2019 at 10:05 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I love the floozy!

  55. 55.

    NotMax

    September 1, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    @Ruckus

    When the main building (originally built as a hotel in the 19th century) burned down one winter, the hastily constructed replacement includes putting in a partially buried large cylindrical fiberglass aerator tank for the liquids pumped uphill from the new septic tank, thence to be distributed to seepage pits dug out in the woods (later to a tile field the state mandated, which they insisted be placed spitting distance from the lakefront, where the water table was highest, but that’s another story). The tank was clearly labeled as #2, the second one built by whatever the company was. No idea how many they eventually built and installed, but learned later on that tank #1, installed at their own factory, had been torn out and scrapped because it never worked properly – suffering the same constant problems as our #2. Dunno how many times I had to get inside and fiddle with stuff in there so it didn’t release a cloud of stench into the atmosphere, right next to the camp’s entrance. Eventually got to the point where we were turning on the noisy aerator pump only overnight.

  56. 56.

    oatler.

    September 1, 2019 at 10:10 pm

    Van Dyke Parks is still alive, hallelujah!

  57. 57.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 1, 2019 at 10:12 pm

    @ThresherK: Dabney Coleman had two series that were doomed but IMHO and IIRC pretty good, Buffalo Bill and Slap Maxwell, in both he played a kind of proto Larry David character, only not so worried about whether or not people liked him. As I recall Slap Maxwell was the better one.

  58. 58.

    joel hanes

    September 1, 2019 at 10:15 pm

    @NotMax:

    “Rock and roll” was originally a slang term for sexual intercourse

    1951
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfJj8R3q20

  59. 59.

    Ruckus

    September 1, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    @NotMax:
    Some don’t know how possible it is to be too familiar with human waste disposal. Especially when it isn’t working 100% correctly. Experience usually fixes that.

  60. 60.

    joel hanes

    September 1, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Bless you.

  61. 61.

    rikyrah

    September 1, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    What a treasure ??

  62. 62.

    Jay

    September 1, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    When one wants rewrite history one must silence historians who know better. https://t.co/b0yHPxQyb9— Schroedingers Cat (@ManyWorlds1Cat) September 1, 2019

  63. 63.

    Another Scott

    September 1, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Excellent! Thanks for standing up and putting your name out there.

    Pew Trusts (pdf):

    Official statistics vary, but a conservative estimate, calculated using data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s most recent Voting and Registration Supplement, indicates that 21.4 percent were not registered to vote in 2014.1

    When I become Benevolent Despot, automatic voter registration will be one of my first official acts.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  64. 64.

    zhena gogolia

    September 1, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    @Raven:

    Somebody in the comments said it’s Marilyn Chambers?

  65. 65.

    rikyrah

    September 1, 2019 at 10:24 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:
    Congratulations ?

  66. 66.

    Jay

    September 1, 2019 at 10:24 pm

    This is the sort of weekend that terrifies people living paycheck-to-paycheck:? Rent is due Sunday 9/1? Friday’s deposited paycheck may not clear for days because of the holiday weekendOverdraft fees & payday lenders shouldn't be the solution. I’ve got a bill for that.— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) August 31, 2019

  67. 67.

    Capri

    September 1, 2019 at 10:26 pm

    Lily Tomlin was very important to my sister, who was trying to find her way as a gay teenager in the 70’s. Tomlin was as out as any celebrity at the time – and knowing there was a least one other lesbian who managed a successful adulthood meant everything to her. She holds a special place in my heart for that reason

  68. 68.

    ThresherK

    September 1, 2019 at 10:27 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: As a weird youth I was very much onto the Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist comedies popular in Britain, some of which found their way over here.

    These two Dabney Coleman shows were ahead of their time ratings-wise.

    (Yet American TV also tried three times to remake Fawlty Towers, and each was awful.)

  69. 69.

    prostratedragon

    September 1, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    Wow, 80! How’s this time thing work again?

    Congratulations Lily, and thanks.

  70. 70.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 1, 2019 at 10:38 pm

    @Ruckus: I asked about knowledge, not familiarity. :)

  71. 71.

    Anne Laurie

    September 1, 2019 at 10:40 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I was working on the list and about 1/3 of the eligible voters are unregistered.

    In our MA town, if you don’t return the paper census ballot sent out every January, your voter registration is cancelled. Since we’re old white people (who’ve lived at the same address for a quarter-century), this means we have to sign an ‘attest’ stating we’re still living at that address before we can vote, which takes all of a minute’s detour. Don’t know if it’s a statewide practice or just our town, but it may be that a percentage of your ‘permanent’ (non-student) residents have gotten into lazy habits like ours…

  72. 72.

    Mary G

    September 1, 2019 at 10:45 pm

    @geg6: My Guatemalan housemate has discovered Grace and Frankie and runs in to tell me the plot of every episode. I’m off TV for some reason, but once I take it up again, that show is #1 on the list.

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: That movie is the first thing I thought of.

  73. 73.

    Mary G

    September 1, 2019 at 10:50 pm

    Nice little story about serendipity from Paul Williams:

    Over time, I've tried to explain to people that as an adult, the concept of "failure" is basically meaningless, especially when you're trying to build a creative life, and this is a great example: pic.twitter.com/K3JpdwLLCS— Aditya Bidikar (@adityab) September 1, 2019

  74. 74.

    Redshift

    September 1, 2019 at 10:50 pm

    The statewide (Virginia) coordinated campaign picked my precinct for the first canvassing of the fall on Northern Virginia today. It went pretty well, meaning there was someone who answered the door at about one out of ten houses.

    I also saw my first Yang 2020 yard sign and bumper sticker.

  75. 75.

    206inKY

    September 1, 2019 at 10:51 pm

    The occasional reminder that everyone else who reads/lurks/loves this blog as obsessively as I do is old! :)

  76. 76.

    Redshift

    September 1, 2019 at 11:02 pm

    @Mary G: Great story. I love Phantom of the Paradise. Someone should get him to make a Broadway musical of it.

  77. 77.

    Jay

    September 1, 2019 at 11:07 pm

    1/ Why did the police riot and attack unmasked protesters and medics at the Straight Pride Parade?Pax Centurion, the magazine of the Boston Police Patrolman's Association, tells them that the only way to deal with protesters is "the surety of violence meeting violence." https://t.co/rqrsVGhx1A— AntiFash Gordon (@AntiFashGordon) September 1, 2019

    Not quite the 7,500 ( half) of the CBD/ICE nazi accounts,

  78. 78.

    joel hanes

    September 1, 2019 at 11:12 pm

    @206inKY:

    I believe that Goku and Tengu are not old.
    Yet.

  79. 79.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 1, 2019 at 11:16 pm

    @Redshift:

    *finds Phantom of the Paradise DVD*
    *inserts into DVD player*
    *presses Play*

  80. 80.

    trollhattan

    September 1, 2019 at 11:20 pm

    @NotMax:
    Please to now be explaining “jelly roll.” :-P

  81. 81.

    Ohio Mom

    September 1, 2019 at 11:21 pm

    @joel hanes: Yes, Goku is a young, in college, working on a nursing degree. I don’t know anything about Tengu, though youth would explain his unbridled flights of fancy (was that diplomatic enough?).

    I think there are also a few among us that are in their first half of middle-age but how this place became a magnet for oldsters is an interesting question. I have no theories.

  82. 82.

    Yarrow

    September 1, 2019 at 11:25 pm

    @Raven: Sorry, very late getting back to the thread. Yes, I suspect the capacitor. Fan was working. I can probably replace it–lots of videos and instructions online. Problem is, I don’t think Home Depot or Lowe’s carry the part so it would have to be a HVAC store. Those were mostly closed on Sunday/Labor Day Monday. Glad it’s working again. It’s really hot out.

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    NotMax

    September 1, 2019 at 11:29 pm

    Toilet fill assembly replacement finished. Now in wait mode for an hour or so to make sure water level isn’t dropping when tank is full and shut-off valve is off, and that the container placed underneath the exterior fitting stays dry.

    One extended moment of humorous in retrospect puzzlement. When first filled the tank, new fill valve shut off as it is supposed to, but then heard water entering the bowl. Changed flapper, let the tank refill, same thing. Hadn’t realized that while moving around underneath and on the side I had nudged the control for the bidet attachment just barely enough to allow a trickle through. Once that duh! light bulb went off over my head and I turned the bidet control to off, all was silent.

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    Matt McIrvin

    September 1, 2019 at 11:31 pm

    @Anne Laurie: The rule in MA is that if you miss the annual snail-mail town census, you end up on the “inactive voters list”. You’re still registered, but to vote with a regular ballot, you have to (1) fill out that affirmation of residence, and (2) provide some kind of ID proving your address (not necessarily a photo ID). If you miss two of the even-year state elections while you’re on the inactive list, then they cancel your registration.

    I gather that, as registration-purge procedures go, this is actually kind of strict and suppressive, and I’ve always thought it’s a poor way to run things (especially since it depends on reliably answering a piece of paper mail, which is increasingly buried in spam). I’ve gotten on the inactive list for failing to turn that thing in before.

  85. 85.

    Jay

    September 1, 2019 at 11:32 pm

    1/ Why did the police riot and attack unmasked protesters and medics at the Straight Pride Parade?Pax Centurion, the magazine of the Boston Police Patrolman's Association, tells them that the only way to deal with protesters is "the surety of violence meeting violence." https://t.co/rqrsVGhx1A— AntiFash Gordon (@AntiFashGordon) September 1, 2019

    BTW, no bail for the Nazis of “Patriot Prayer”. Despite crippling Portlaners fo their whole lives.

    $250,000 dollars bail for a Portlander taking a hammer away from a Nazi who was trying to cripple a Portlander.

  86. 86.

    NotMax

    September 1, 2019 at 11:32 pm

    @trollhattan

    A sweet, spongy dessert pastry.

    (You really didn’t think I was about to go to the other place, didja?)

    :)

  87. 87.

    Chip Daniels

    September 1, 2019 at 11:35 pm

    Tomlin is also terrific in Grace and Frankie with Jane Fonda- If you haven’t seen it, you are missing out.

  88. 88.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 1, 2019 at 11:35 pm

    @Redshift: I’d forgotten that the intro narration is Rod Serling. So, so weird.

  89. 89.

    Jay

    September 1, 2019 at 11:39 pm

    @Chip Daniels:

    SWMBO loves it.

  90. 90.

    Mary G

    September 1, 2019 at 11:41 pm

    Happy dog is a respite. I wish I could do this.

    this is walter, a labrador from sicily. rumor has it he loves the sea(sciu89) pic.twitter.com/onBmPTBoX0— Humor And Animals (@humorandanimals) September 1, 2019

  91. 91.

    debbie

    September 1, 2019 at 11:41 pm

    Probably because it was a girls’ school, we went through a phase of snorting out answers like Ernestine in classes. The teachers were not amused.

    Happy Day, Lily!

  92. 92.

    Ladyraxterinok

    September 1, 2019 at 11:44 pm

    Valerie Harper was born just s few days before her, on Aug 22, 1939.

    Things are getting creepy. I was born 4 months after her.

  93. 93.

    joel hanes

    September 1, 2019 at 11:47 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    blogs are as obsolete as dial phones
    I’m here because I fixated during the golden era of blogs

  94. 94.

    Yutsano

    September 1, 2019 at 11:52 pm

    @Jay: I have another problem. I went to go pay my rent online. Had a weird rigamarole where they said my info didn’t match the unit.Tried a password change. That sailed through. Then it said my rent was paid. I blinked. I hadn’t paid it yet! Now I’m paranoid about putting the money in in case somehow it got made automatically. The real kicker is if I wait I wait until Tuesday EXCEPT the law just changed. I HAVE to pay my rent right on the first or else they can charge me late fees. And of course I can’t call anyone because of the holiday weekend. So yeah…that’s probably about to go cockneyed.

  95. 95.

    debbie

    September 1, 2019 at 11:52 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    I don’t think that’s Marilyn Chambers. She looks familiar, but I can’t think of her name.

  96. 96.

    joel hanes

    September 1, 2019 at 11:55 pm

    @joel hanes:

    the golden era of blogs

    Speaking of which, Lance Mannion has been killing it.
    Give it a look.
    https://lancemannion.typepad.com/lance_mannion/

  97. 97.

    Steeplejack

    September 1, 2019 at 11:59 pm

    I went out about 7:00 PDT to pick up a keyboard/​mouse combo at Best Buy that will allegedly work with my Chromebook. The built-in keyboard is okay, but for an extended gig—like three weeks at my RWNJ brother’s house—I want something better. I’m going to put the Chromebook in “tripod” mode (not my actual Chromebook) and use the screen with the external keyboard and mouse. I’ve already used an external mouse successfully, so I’m hoping this will work too.

    Since I was out under the cooling cover of sundown and dark (checks weather—still 99° nearly two hours after sunset) I ran by Vons (Safeway’s West Coast twin) and picked up some victuals and supplies. Will shop later in the week as I discover other inexplicable gaps in my brother’s larder.

    Mom’s doing okay; nothing to report. Woody the greyhound is doing okay, although still acting a little weird occasionally. I think my brother’s schedule being disrupted the last month upset Woody. Liberalized treat policy seems to be helping.

    ETA: Wrong picture—that’s not tripod mode. Hopefully you get my drift. Folded like a place card.

  98. 98.

    PJ

    September 2, 2019 at 12:05 am

    @Ohio Mom: Judging from the self-identification in comments and in photos of meet-ups, it seems like the commentership (not necessarily the readership) skews old and white. There’s a certain amount of intolerance here for ideas and experiences that don’t conform to those of over-50 (and it seems like mostly over-60) white people who spend a lot of time on Facebook and the internet generally. Obviously, there are people of color and people under 50 who regularly comment here, but they seem to be in the minority (but then I am not on here half as much as the regulars, so take this all with a grain of salt). When Angry Black Lady was posting here she was not shown a lot of love; some of this seemed to be partly her attitude towards critical comments, but some of it seemed to be due to an intolerance towards a different point of view. New commenters tend to be attacked. The “our club” attitude of many commenters could be off-putting. But then there are probably hundreds, if not thousands (after all, this is almost a top 10,000 blog) of readers, who never comment at all, so who knows what the overall readership is like.

  99. 99.

    VeniceRiley

    September 2, 2019 at 12:13 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: I saw that show the week it came to Los Angeles for previews. Tomlin was a major figure for me in my formative years. IDK maybe I had early gaydar.

  100. 100.

    Chetan Murthy

    September 2, 2019 at 12:14 am

    @Steeplejack:

    Folded like a place card.

    That’s a first-gen ASUS Chromebook Flip? Nice machine, innit? The keyboard’s a tad cramped. Ah, well. Eventually the screen started fritzing, so I got a second-gen model. And that’s been a dream ever since. I hear the third-gen is great, but feel no urge to upgrade. None whatsoever.

  101. 101.

    NotMax

    September 2, 2019 at 12:18 am

    @Steeplejack

    FYI, though gone but not forgotten from NYC, there exists a Carnegie Deli inside The Mirage. Read somewhere they offer a substantial discount to locals, if your bro left anything around you might be able to use as I.D. Probably not 100% as delectable as the original, but ya never know…

  102. 102.

    Another Scott

    September 2, 2019 at 12:18 am

    @debbie: Looks like her to me.

    I’ve been too lazy to try to track down the credits for that episode.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  103. 103.

    Ruckus

    September 2, 2019 at 12:21 am

    @Ohio Mom:
    I think a lot of us olds have been on here for quite a while. Was just thinking how long ago I’ve been here and I think it’s 07 or 08. Could be wrong. But if you look at the responses to a lot of things written here we all seem to be politically within arms length of each other. I came here from a couple other places, used to frequent LGM, C&L, sullivan, TPM, even have my own political blog that pretty much hasn’t gone anywhere and I haven’t even posted on in a while. I think what draws and keeps us coming back is the format, the people the sort of back fence, small town feel of the place. And yet we have people 50 or more years apart in age, front pagers with a wide range of views, and a blog lord who likes open communication, has a wide tolerance latitude for assholes, and seems to thrive on us just hanging out. Threads often veer off into the wilderness and just fad out. We talk about getting old, about being young, it’s back fence neighbors from many parts of the world.

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    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 12:39 am

    @Jay:

    Warren gets how (far too many) people actually live.

  105. 105.

    BruceFromOhio

    September 2, 2019 at 12:41 am

    One ringy dingy.
    Two ringy dingy.

  106. 106.

    BruceFromOhio

    September 2, 2019 at 12:50 am

    @Ruckus: Landed here by way of TRex after TBogg went to FireDogLake.It’s how I discovered Donita Sparks was a member of L7.
    Count them rings, there’s a few.

  107. 107.

    NotMax

    September 2, 2019 at 12:51 am

    @NotMax

    Looking at the menu, shocked to find they serve a ham sandwich and also a BLT.

  108. 108.

    NotMax

    September 2, 2019 at 1:00 am

    @NotMax

    No recollection of how I found this place (maybe from Bartcop?). Lurked for some indeterminate number of years. Put the blame on Raven announcing his then upcoming trip to Maui for drawing me out of my usual thick shell.

    Had my own daily blog for about a decade and also guest blogged for another until it went poof, but has been a long while since those activities.

  109. 109.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 1:01 am

    @Chetan Murthy:

    Yeah, Asus Chromebook Flip C100PA. The keyboard is very type-able and fine for “I’m going to work on my screenplay at Starbucks,” but it slows me down for extended typing sessions. The heel of my palm occasionally brushes the scratchpad and erases text (and moves the cursor “focus”), and I have trouble remembering some of the more esoteric key combinations. Last year I just put up with it, but i swore I would find some sort of external keyboard next time (and just leave it here when I leave).

    I got the Logitech MK540 combo for $44, if anyone’s interested. Remains to be seen if it works, although I believe it will.

    I love the Chromebook itself. A great little box, and it beats lugging my small but still much larger Lenovo notebook.

  110. 110.

    NotMax

    September 2, 2019 at 1:02 am

    Whoops. #108 meant to be:

    @BruceFromOhio

    Sorry ’bout that.

  111. 111.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 1:04 am

    @NotMax:

    Ooh, thanks! That’s worth checking out.

  112. 112.

    Ruckus

    September 2, 2019 at 1:06 am

    @BruceFromOhio:
    Yeah, a lot of us go back a long way and while we may have gotten here from different directions, it looks like we like the neighbors. I do, even though every once in a while some seem to veer off into the wilderness.
    I know you’ve been here quite a long time as well and have given me some great insights. It’s why I stay, it’s adults discussing adult stuff and every once in a while having an argument. Real life IOW. I’ve met a few people outside at meet ups and yes PJ is right we do probably skew old and white. But we aren’t an exclusive club anyone can drop in any time and as long as they remain reasonable civil seem to be welcome. People from all walks of life, all colors, origins, orientations. Just not political assholes. I think they aren’t welcome, but then I live in a state that barely tolerates them. The last county I lived in was 80% democratic.

  113. 113.

    NotMax

    September 2, 2019 at 1:08 am

    @Steeplejack

    Dunno if this will prove helpful or not, app from Logitech re: Chromebooks.

  114. 114.

    Chetan Murthy

    September 2, 2019 at 1:08 am

    @Steeplejack:

    I love the Chromebook itself. A great little box

    And the C100PA, at $250 (when I bought it a few years ago) is so cheap that if I lose it (somehow) I don’t feel terrible. Not like losing a $2k laptop.

  115. 115.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 1:22 am

    @Chetan Murthy:

    Not like losing a $2k laptop.

    Exactly.

    Come to think of it, mine may be second-generation. I bought it about two years ago and paid about what you did. It’s very speedy and does everything I need it to do, so I haven’t felt the urge to upgrade. But I definitely would consider a new model when needed. The 10" screen is a good size.

  116. 116.

    Ladyraxterinok

    September 2, 2019 at 1:27 am

    @Jay: IIRC before Nazis totally took over in Germany, courts let off Nazis with little or no punishment. Socialists and other Nazi opponents got stiff penalties.

    I believe historians examine the court records to track the growth of Nazi power/strength in the various towns and districts.

  117. 117.

    Chetan Murthy

    September 2, 2019 at 1:28 am

    @Steeplejack: The 2nd-gen model has a 12.5in screen with really high-pixel-density. Basically, with these old-man-eyes, I’ll never use it full-resolution mode. And the keyboard is a -little- bigger, so much more comfortable than the c100pa. But it’s twice the price ($500). At that price, I’d feel a little badly about losing it.

  118. 118.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 1:30 am

    @NotMax:

    Thanks for the tip sheet. This combo has the “unifying” thing, so it uses only one USB dongle. The keyboard shortcuts will come in handy.

  119. 119.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 1:35 am

    @Chetan Murthy:

    Sorry, I thought you meant your C100 was second-gen.

    A 12" screen would be sheer luxury, but I like the smaller form factor more.

  120. 120.

    Ladyraxterinok

    September 2, 2019 at 1:45 am

    @Ruckus: I started 8reading here regularly after the 08 election because my favorite site started attacking Obama constantly. I was so pleased with his election and couldn’t believe how angry and dissatisfied they were with him.

    The site had already bugged me during the primary. The racism and misogyny that was rampant among supposedly liberal democrats really freaked me out.

  121. 121.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 2, 2019 at 1:48 am

    I take pictures…pretty much the last hurrah of the Milky Way season, got some nice pics.

  122. 122.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 2, 2019 at 1:48 am

    I came here during the GOS health care wars.

  123. 123.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 1:58 am

    I came here during the run-up to the ’08 election from a link at Andrew Sullivan’s place, which I used to check daily for “The View from Your Window,” or whatever that was. Took me a while to get the nerve to comment.

    I know that Balloon Juice skews old and white, but it is a fantastic news aggregator (not just the front-pagers—commenters, too, and not just hard news but cultural and social stuff as well), and the jackaltariat collectively has an amazing breadth of expertise in a lot of areas—some of them very unexpected. And the tone is a lot less dickish than, say, LGM, although I do decry the occasional clubbishness and “Hello, nym that I have never seen.”

    ETA: Damn it. Got to figure out how to do emojis on this Chromebook.

  124. 124.

    joel hanes

    September 2, 2019 at 2:03 am

    @Ruckus:

    it looks like we like the neighbors

    pack of snarling jackals
    nowhere else like it
    all hail the blogfather
    who saw the light

  125. 125.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 2:05 am

    Okay, things seem to be in a bit of a lull, so I’m going to try to deploy the new keyboard and mouse.

  126. 126.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 2, 2019 at 2:08 am

    @Steeplejack:

    Okay, things seem to be in a bit of a lull, so I’m going to try to deploy the new keyboard and mouse.

    Standing by, ready to call the fire department.

  127. 127.

    gwangung

    September 2, 2019 at 2:12 am

    @Steeplejack:

    I know that Balloon Juice skews old and white

    Half right, here.

  128. 128.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 2:19 am

    @Steeplejack:

    Damn, that was easy! Scary easy. Didn’t even have to turn off the Chromebook.

    1. Turned off old mouse and removed dongle. (Stored it in battery compartment of mouse.)

    2. Inserted new “unifying” dongle.

    3. Turned on new mouse and keyboard. Voilà!

    I’m exhausted; I think I need a drink.

    Don’t get me wrong. The new keyboard is not the world’s greatest. It certainly pales in comparison to the clicky Das Keyboard back at world headquarters in Threadkill Lane, and the action is a little mushy, but it is a full-size keyboard—with ten-key pad—and the function keys seem to work, at least the ones I’ve tried so far (PgDn, Home, End, etc.)

    The mouse works fine and has a “clicky” wheel, which I like. It is slightly bigger than the old mouse (Logitech M325) and has better “hand feel.” It’s an M310.

  129. 129.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 2:22 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Stand down to JuiceCon 5. Mission accomplished!

  130. 130.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 2:32 am

    @gwangung:

    Well, we’re not completely white.

  131. 131.

    NotMax

    September 2, 2019 at 2:41 am

    @Steeplejack

    One sometimes has to accept a few concessions as a trade-off for backlighting.

    As for home keyboard, lurve my backlit mechanical Havit (model with no number pad because I never use it anyway). Pleasing backlighting is a softer shade of pale blue than the picture shows, an aluminum – not plastic – top panel under the keys, so the whole thing has nice solid (but not heavy) feel, and the sleek keys do not sit as high as usually found on mechanical keyboards, which I like a lot.

    This is not to in any way denigrate Das Keyboard, which is also a heckuva unit.

  132. 132.

    Aleta

    September 2, 2019 at 2:46 am

    Oliver Willis satire
    https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1168143643133263872

  133. 133.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 2, 2019 at 2:48 am

    @Steeplejack: What kind of juices are at the convention? Same as the previous 4?

  134. 134.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 2:51 am

    @NotMax:

    I wish my D.K. had backlighting. I wish this keyboard had backlighting. There is a Logitech combo that does (maybe more than one), but the price gets above what I wanted to spend for a throwdown keyboard.

    The Havit looks nice. Always collecting intel for new equipment.

  135. 135.

    NotMax

    September 2, 2019 at 2:52 am

    @mrmoshpotato

    Durian-pineapple, durian-orange, durian-banana, durian-prune, Crandurian and durian-durian.

    :)

  136. 136.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 2:56 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    I think you rate a durian-kale smoothie for that crack.

  137. 137.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 2, 2019 at 2:59 am

    @Steeplejack: From Wikipedia: The unusual flavour and odour of the fruit have prompted many people to express diverse and passionate views ranging from deep appreciation to intense disgust.

    I appreciate being deeply appreciated.

  138. 138.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 3:03 am

    @Steeplejack:

    One thing about the installation: I couldn’t put the Chromebook in “place-card” mode, because apparently then it thinks it’s in tablet mode and ignores the keyboard (internal or external). So I had to put it in “flying V” mode—keyboard side face down on the table, screen side tilted at a tasteful angle for visibility. Works great.

  139. 139.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 2, 2019 at 3:06 am

    @Steeplejack: Do you find obtuse angles to be tasteful?

  140. 140.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 3:20 am

    @Steeplejack:

    Finally, there was a budget combo down around $22—the Logitech MK270—but it wasn’t available to fondle in the store (though it was in stock) and the on-line descriptions made me think it would not meet my moderately finicky standards. Your mileage may vary, anonymous reader.

  141. 141.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 3:23 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    It looks dead sexy! [Fat Bastard voice]

  142. 142.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2019 at 3:33 am

    Huh. Just got a “severe thunderstorm warning” for a storm coming up from Boulder City to the south. (I’m in Henderson, on the south side of Las Vegas.) The wind has already picked up and is rattling around the house.

    Temp now a balmy 93° at 12:33 a.m. PDT.

  143. 143.

    hells littlest angel

    September 2, 2019 at 4:50 am

    One of the very few cast members of an incredibly awful TV show (R&MLI) to go on to much better things. The only other name that comes to mind is Goldie Hawn.

  144. 144.

    schrodingers_cat

    September 2, 2019 at 7:15 am

    @Anne Laurie: That’s how we do it too. Its a MA thing it seems.

  145. 145.

    Chris Johnson

    September 2, 2019 at 10:35 am

    @Jay:

    This is the sort of weekend that terrifies people living paycheck-to-paycheck:? Rent is due Sunday 9/1? Friday’s deposited paycheck may not clear for days because of the holiday weekendOverdraft fees & payday lenders shouldn’t be the solution. I’ve got a bill for that.— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) August 31, 2019

    Fuck me, she knows this. I bet she does have a bill for that. I am gobsmacked that she knows about it. Yes, please, let’s have a bill and some sort of remedy or aid or just help, about it.

  146. 146.

    TomatoQueen

    September 2, 2019 at 12:08 pm

    @Chris Johnson: But of course she knows about it. This girl grew up in a poor household and knows banking from first dirty trick played on the poor to the last. One of the chief attractions of the Consumer Financial Protection B as she campaigned for it was reform of the bank fees imposed on customers at the retail level, and still charged in some cases. She knows this up, down, and sideways.

  147. 147.

    KOOTO (Keen Observer of the Obvious)

    September 2, 2019 at 1:46 pm

    Tomlin exudes decency.

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