There were more than 9,000 tickets sold for the #NHDems2020 convention today in Manchester, per the state party.
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) September 7, 2019
Or, as I think of it, that proud folkloric tradition, the Running of the Journos…
"[@ewarren] has a really good team on the ground, and @CoryBooker does, too. I mean, I think those two — it seems to me, from my experience — that they have the best organized teams," JoAnn Fenton, a longtime SW NH organizer & power broker told me.https://t.co/fp1pYGxdhK
— Jake Lahut (@JakeLahut) September 8, 2019
… With 19 presidential candidates speaking during the proceedings — which did not include the usual rule setting by delegates, which was suspended until another quorum — a few contenders’ names came up more frequently than others.
The top three candidates for Keene Democratic organizer JoAnn Fenton, for example, overlapped with the preferences of other local attendees who have yet to endorse: U.S. Sens. Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris.
Booker and Warren, in particular, were favorites among the Monadnock Region die-hards in attendance, with organizers like Fenton citing their strong ground game and close attention paid to local Democrats.
Fenton, who said she is not ready to endorse anyone yet, quipped that she faces a new conundrum, given the size of the field.
“I have never had this problem before,” Fenton chuckled. “I have always known who I was voting for, and it’s such a dilemma because they’re all so good.”…
“You all know in your bones that this election is different,” @JoeBiden tells the NH Dem convention. “This president has unleashed the deepest, darkest forces in the nation.” pic.twitter.com/F2xhjl1m9S
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 7, 2019
Jennifer Rubin, in the Washington Post: “In New Hampshire, Trump drives turnout — for Democrats” —
MANCHESTER, N.H. — If, as billed, New Hampshire’s Democratic state convention had its largest turnout ever this year, then the party surely has President Trump to thank. Kicking off the proceeding on Saturday morning, Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez quoted Trump’s galling assertion that “you have no choice but to vote for me.” He brought the crowd to its feet when he retorted, “We’ve got no choice but to get his ass out of the White House!” It was that kind of day.
A close second in the villain department was Majority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), whose name evoked boos whenever mentioned, as if he were the crowd’s Haman, the villain who is ritually denounced at Jewish Purim celebrations. “Moscow Mitch” chanting broke out in the midst of Rep. Chris Pappas’s (D-N.H.) speech, to Pappas’s delight. “You know he hates that,” he said with a grin.
Outside, throngs of supporters filled the sidewalk and the plaza in front of the Southern New Hampshire University Arena, waving signs, chanting for their candidate and donning their campaign’s T-shirt. Supporters of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) outnumbered other camps — by a lot.
As enthusiastic as some Democrats are for their particular candidate, the message inside was “unity.” Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), who faces a tough reelection campaign, drew a sustained ovation when she exhorted the crowd to support whoever the nominee might be. That theme was repeated throughout the day. Whether that spirit survives next week’s debate is an open question…
(Worth reading the whole thing; she writes approvingly about Booker, Buttigieg, Harris, and Klobuchar.. )
Warren has a big crowd — plus thundersticks! — for the loudest reception of the day here at #NHDems2020 pic.twitter.com/yPyreMkt88
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) September 7, 2019
Solid moment for teams @ewarren and @kamalaharris yeaterday. One reminder (of many) that for all the horse race coverage that doesn’t matter, millions are fighting for overlapping goals. #fitn #nhpolitics #friendship2020 pic.twitter.com/QUAnYA7cxF
— Andrew Taverrite (@AndrewTaverrite) September 8, 2019
.@KamalaHarris at the New Hampshire convention:
“When you look at the record number of crises this guy has gotten us into—that’s about the only thing he can claim to be made in the USA”— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) September 7, 2019
Kamala Harris calls the president a “so-called commander in chief.”
“This guy’s got us one tweet away from war,” she says in NH.
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 7, 2019
A nice photo of @KamalaHarris and @BetoORourke with some enthusiastic Democrats
Walk and talk together, Democrats
Do not get weary.
Our unity is feared. pic.twitter.com/S2EWDEVL23
— DSC (@RiotwomennnTemp) September 7, 2019
.@PeteButtigieg says Democrats win the presidency with fresh faces and new messages.
“By contrast, every time we’ve tried to play it safe with established and Washington-tenured figures, every single time we’ve come up short.” pic.twitter.com/qWXrsv1fKo
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 7, 2019
Asked in New Hampshire about Democrats supposedly saying that they want to ban meat, @petebuttigieg out his head down and laughed: “I’m sorry, could you give a citation on that characterization?”
— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) September 7, 2019
Loud applause and cheers at the NH Democratic convention as @BetoORourke calls for a gun registry, licensing for firearms and buying back all AR-15 and AK-47 style weapons."
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 7, 2019
Outside the New Hampshire Democratic convention, the pitch from @BernieSanders campaign as Ben and Jerry themselves scooped free bowls: “ice cream for all! Medicare for all! College for all!” pic.twitter.com/YGIEGn2rtF
— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) September 7, 2019
It is getting tough for speakers, crowd shrinking, although still about 1500 or more, hard to do count because audience scattered around arena. Those left are real NH voters, however, most undecided. #NHDems2020
— Kathy Sullivan (@NHKathySullivan) September 7, 2019
– Biden went early and did little to build up or rev up crowd. O’Rourke, Booker, Klobuchar, Harris had, unsurprisingly, very warm receptions — more laughs than unusual for Klobuchar zingers.
– None of the “If we go left we can’t win” negativity of some past cattle calls.
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 7, 2019
– Decent amount of voter jitters about Biden (age) and Warren (electability), esp from Sanders supporters
– Funniest scene I witnessed: Beto stopping to read the wall of newspaper articles about the venue. Stared at image of Willie Nelson playing there and said “cool.”
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 7, 2019
NEW: Joe Biden’s speech yesterday at the New Hampshire Democratic Party convention drew a tepid response compared to some rivals.
At the event, @TrentSpiner and I polled 100 party insiders, and many weren’t backing Biden — and aired concerns about him. https://t.co/7kaVlhSFdh
— Holly Otterbein (@hollyotterbein) September 8, 2019
In a standing-room-only gathering before the start of the @NHDems state convention, VoteVets hosted a batch of presidential candidates on Sat morning. It was an opportunity to burnish credentials before a group with 600K members nationwide. #VoteVets2020https://t.co/I6Kr8zekF2
— VoteVets (@votevets) September 8, 2019
Baud
That’s nice, but what if our nominee has policy ideas, a political strategy, or an affect that does not line up perfectly with mine?
O. Felix Culpa
@Baud: Then you vote for Jill Stein, obvsly.
caphilldcne
@Baud: you vote for her anyway and then go lobby the hell out of her to adopt your platform. Like we do every election.
Mnemosyne
I still want a Warren/Harris ticket … unless Harris agrees to become Attorney General and take on the job of cleaning out the Augean Stables that Trump has turned the DOJ into.
There is NOT A SINGLE CHANCE IN HELL that CA would return anything other than a Democrat for Harris’s Senate seat, so don’t @ me, concern trolls.
Mnemosyne
@caphilldcne:
Some people refuse to take “yes” for an answer, as we saw in 2016.
James E Powell
@Baud:
Then you spend the entire campaign cycle complaining that the process was rigged against your candidate and that you can never vote for the Democratic nominee, but that no one can say you are helping to re-elect Trump because it’s all Nancy Pelosi’s fault.
FlipYrWhig
It’s really rather astounding that Sanders people find it self-evident that Sanders has neither of these problems.
caphilldcne
@O. Felix Culpa: just to be clear (due to O Felix’s evil, funny and interposed snark) – “her” the candidate! Not “her” the Russian stooge! Jeez!!
James E Powell
@Mnemosyne:
Having either Warren or Harris as VP would be a waste of talent.
caphilldcne
@Mnemosyne: I know. It’s very discouraging. But we can do it!
Brachiator
Very cool to be reading about the enthusiasm and high turnouts.
The two news narratives that I will never care about are “horse race coverage” and “electability.”
ETA. I hear that there will be 11 candidates and so two nights for the next debate. Overall, isn’t this a good thing?
James E Powell
@FlipYrWhig:
It’s also astounding that the reporters who heard those concerns didn’t fire that right back at them.
SFAW
@Baud:
You left out the “she.”
Unless it’s a “he,” then you vote for him, because he won’t be over-prepared, or shrill/strident, or something.
Mnemosyne
@James E Powell:
That’s why I like Harris as a potential crusading Attorney General getting rid of all of the Trumpers that are going to try and burrow in at the DOJ.
Baud
@Brachiator:
No. With so many candidates, the media can’t cover them all close to equally so they focus on the top three. If we had 5 or 6 candidates, we’d probably get more even handed coverage and a better debate. It is what it is though.
dmsilev
@Mnemosyne: I think she’d be better as AG than VP, so if anyone asked my opinion (narrator: “nobody is going to ask”), that’d be my choice. But yeah, it’s real hard to see the California GOP coming up with a viable candidate to replace her.
SFAW
@Mnemosyne:
I’d also like to see her use all the DoJ resources to investigate certain Traitor Turtles for treason (etc.) and certain beer-loving, rapey Justices for for rape (etc.)
For starters.
Jeffro
It’s interesting that there seems to be a significant drop-off in GOP commentary (and ‘both sides’ media parroting of same) regarding this Dem field.
– it’s winnowing on its own
– Dems are very much united on the issues and VERY much just want to kick trumpov’s ass to the curb
– they’re talking serious policy AND many are showing great, sunny personalities
– they’re almost all showing signs of supporting the eventual nominee quite enthusiastically
– they’re all talking about gun reform without fear of upsetting the blessed NRA
– they all basically call trumpov a threat to the nation, both in terms of his rhetoric and his actual security risk due to Russia
It’s GREAT
I think we also have less to fear from Sanders and Gabbard acting out down the road than we think.
I’ll save some other thoughts for later
JPL
I’m not paying as close attention as I did in the past. My primary is after super Tuesday and towards the end of the month of March so if Super Tuesday doesn’t determine the nominee, I’ll pay more attention. . Early on I was an avid Harris fan and I still admire her, but that is not important. Our nominee must win.
dmsilev
@Jeffro: I’m not worried about Gabbard (or Williamson). They’re at one or two percent in the polls, and aren’t going to be at the debate this week. Probably not the October debate either. Sanders, on the other hand… If he does the same sort of sore-loser routine as last time, that potentially could be a problem. Hopefully not, but I guess time will tell.
Mnemosyne
@dmsilev:
@SFAW:
I do think that either Warren or Harris would need a female VP. I think that in an election that swung by tiny percentages in just the right (purple) states that having Hillary be the “boss” of a man swung a few votes. Probably not more than a few thousand, but every vote counted that year even more than usual.
mrmoshpotato
NH is big enough for even one cow?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
They think twitter is an accurate reflection of the electorate. Sometimes I worry that belief is even more widespread than that
TenguPhule
@Baud:
Then you compromise by getting new ideals. //
dmsilev
@Mnemosyne: Honestly, I’m not sure any VP in recent memory has swung a measurable number of votes, for or against. Maybe Palin drove some people away from McCain.
LivinginExile
Wouldn’t Warren be a great Senate majority leader? A guy can dream.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
There is no need to insult the Augeans.
Gin & Tonic
So reportedly the president, in NC for a rally, said that there were people in line for it, standing outside, soaking wet. It has not rained today in Fayetteville.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Gin & Tonic: I’m sure it’s still raining in Alabama.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Win.
Mnemosyne
@dmsilev:
IIRC, it’s documented that Palin drove voters towards Obama in 2008.
Like I said, I doubt that it would have been a measurable effect any other year, but 2016 was insane on so many levels and there was a huge amount of microtargeting by the Republicans and Russians. That was the whole point of Cambridge Analytica — to find small numbers of voters whose votes could be changed or suppressed based on extremely specific criteria.
Any other year, it would have been just noise.
Jeffro
@Gin & Tonic: Next week it’ll be “did you see? They were fighting, FIGHTING to get in and adore me! I had to walk out there and part the crowd myself and tell them, ‘I know you love me…but be good to each other.’ “. Sort of a Psycho Jesus kind of thing.
He really does think these crowds ‘love’ him and unfortunately, it probably is the closest thing he ever has gotten to unconditional love in his life. Thanks Fred Trump!
TenguPhule
I can’t muster up enough energy to care anymore because there are never any real consequences for these assholes under the current institutions.
SFAW
@Mnemosyne:
I understand your point, but the flip side to that is “Two women! They really need at least one man there, for when Crisis X needs someone strong” or something similar to that.
One would hope that, in 2020, that shit didn’t exist any more. But I think 2016 demonstrated that it does.
TenguPhule
Who had “started talking to himself” on their insane tyrant bingo card?
SFAW
@TenguPhule:
Wilbur Ross lying? Unpossible!
JPL
@TenguPhule: Good news then, it will be off the news tomorrow. There’s always going to be something more egregious tomorrow.
Jeffro
@Mnemosyne: Or potentially, maybe, to have small numbers of infrequent R voters’ votes added in here and there electronically (unless that’s what you mean by ‘could be changed’)
I mean, if George Smith from Rural County, Michigan hasn’t already voted by 4pm on Election Day…why…(click)…now he has..
we’ve seen how insecure these machines have proven to be. Just saying.
satby
Not NH, but the odious Dan Lipinski has a good opponent in the D primary that Warren just endorsed. So hoping this is finally when he gets kicked to the curb.
TS (the original)
@SFAW:
2016 demonstrated that half of the electorate lost its collective brain. After the past 2.5 years, many would see 2 women candidates as the best thing that could ever happen to the USA – sanity, the ability to multi task and no golf.
TenguPhule
@JPL:
I have “Trump launches attack on another country on 9/11” on my Bingo card. It was the stupidest thing I could think of after “Brings Taliban into USA on 9/11”
TenguPhule
Okay this has to be approaching peak crazy.
mrmoshpotato
@FlipYrWhig:
It’s a cult. Their St. Wilmer is older than both Biden and Warren, and I don’t know what the fuck “electability” even means.
Mnemosyne
@SFAW:
Eh, I’m mostly spitballing. There’s not much else going on.
@Jeffro:
I’m still suspicious that Jill Stein did so much better in Michigan than she did in any other state. And that she then went to “investigate,” i.e. help MI Republicans cover up the vote-switching.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
from trump’s NC-9 (?) rally
ETA:
Christ, I just sent McCready $25 bucks and now I’m tempted to do it again,
mrmoshpotato
@?BillinGlendaleCA: There’s a fucking sharknadoicanequake in Alabama!
John Revolta
@Mnemosyne: @SFAW: It’s a hard calculation to make, for sure. There is certainly a number of fringe types that you’ll lose either way.
I’m glad I don’t have to make the call.
M31
@TenguPhule:
I wish I shared your optimism.
Jeffro
@TenguPhule: Oh, if only.
Trumpov’s the only guy who watched Baghdad Bob lo those many years ago and thought to himself, “he’s just not dreaming BIG ENOUGH”.
Trumpov Bob: “Tank columns heading for our capital? Americans right around the corner? Are you kidding? Iraq has actually just captured most of South America plus the Golden Gate Bridge, all with a corporal and three privates who were already on leave (and half drunk at that).”
Wait until the impeachment hearings begin…he’ll be tweeting so often and so stupidly that I don’t even have a bad metaphor for it yet.
mrmoshpotato
@satby: If I lived in the 3rd district, I would’ve voted for Newman. She’s trying to primary Lipinski again. Good on her.
We’ll have to see if a Nazi gets enough signatures again to get on the Republican ticket next year. (And then the Nazi trash will get 57885 votes again.)
mrmoshpotato
@M31: You planned but unbuilt motorway in England. :)
Yeah – ‘peak crazy’ with these bastards. Ha ha ha.
Jeffro
@Mnemosyne: Oh totally (re: Stein)…and her ‘recount’ effort helped muddy the waters/defuse efforts to figure out what really happened, not just in MIchigan but also WI and PA I believe.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@M31: You were pictured on the Astronomy Pic of the Day today. And what’s with you and M33? I got a pic of you two the other night.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne: That’s Dr. Jill Stein to you.
Richard Guhl
Policy proposals might tickle our fancy, but the reality is Congress makes the laws, which means the best candidate is the one who can make nice with Joe Manchin.
mrmoshpotato
@Jeffro: And she ran off with millions from the recount crowdfunding as well.
satby
@mrmoshpotato: I doubt that with Lightfoot as mayor Lipinski will get the regular local Democratic backing he’s accustomed to. He’s been hated in my (former) neck of the woods for a decade, but too many opponents in the primaries always split the vote against him. High hopes she prevails against him this time.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Jeffro: MI in ’16 sets off my inner conspiracy theorist. Not just Stein but IIRC tens of thousands of presidential lines left blank?
Mary G
@Gin & Tonic: I can’t find it now, but they said he had to cancel touring the hurricane damage, and a bolt of lightning struck just behind AF1. So there was bad weather somewhere, and like Alabamagate, details don’t matter.
Jay
We don’t deserve dogs:
Brachiator
@TenguPhule:
Oddly enough, I think that Trump would be hesitant about deliberately starting a war. Prior to this Taliban announcement, there were stories about Trump cooling on Bolton and other hawkish advisors.
And it’s clear that Trump is scrambling to make good on various promises and semi-promises to burnish his re-election bona fides. He’s hot to show how much he (and only he) has accomplished. And one big accomplishment would be to finally remove all, or most, troops from Afghanistan.
Bringing the Taliban to the USA would have been great had it worked out. Despite all the talk about people working on this deal for a year, I think that Trump, being incompetent, did not listen to his best foreign policy advisors. He was hot to have a big reality show type surprise announcement. But he is incapable of weighing advice and only wants to hear shit that will make him look good.
JPL
@TenguPhule: Well I bet that you didn’t have trump speaking about his hair being better than most his age tonight. It’s really nice hair and the best hair that money can buy.
satby
@mrmoshpotato: one of those voters was a very dear friend of mine who is the extreme low info voter. She told me later she wouldn’t vote for the Republican but didn’t like Richy Rich Pritzker, didn’t like that one candidate had changed his name legally (noted on the ballot, she thought that meant something shady), so she voted for the other no name guy knowing she was throwing that vote away. She was pretty embarrassed when I told her that she voted for the Nazi. Her husband, a reliable Democratic union guy, gave her shit about it for months. Well deserved shit.
I think of how gut voters like her are and am puzzled. At least I know she’d never vote (and didn’t) for Trump. I think she likes Biden this time.
Mnemosyne
@Brachiator:
I tend to agree with you that I don’t think Trump would deliberately start a war. I’m way more worried about him stumbling into one because he doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing.
He had his eye on getting a Nobel Peace Prize like Obama and will be pissed that his incompetent staff “cheated” him out of one.
dr. luba
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: In Michigan write in votes are only recorded if the person voted for has registered as a write in candidate. We had several write-ins for Bernie in my precinct, which didn’t get officially counted or recorded. Nor did Harambe’s. I assume they were considered to be “no presidential vote.”
mrmoshpotato
@satby: I hope not. I’d love to see Newman elected.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@dr. luba: ah, thanks, that makes sense
TenguPhule
@Brachiator:
I’m pretty sure he doesn’t think of it as starting a war. More along the lines of “We’re the biggest asshole on the block, what can you do about it, huh?”
And then he discovers that other country’s leaders aren’t as civilized as Nancy Pelosi.
Jay
@Brachiator:
As Robert Young Pelton keeps pointing out, the US is negotiating with the Beach Talibs,
The guys who have been living high on the hog, in exile in the Petty Kingdoms, since 2002.
They don’t control shit in Afghanistan.
Steeplejack (phone)
Note: Daniel Dale is live-tweeting Trump’s campaign rally.
Ken
So that’s, what, three per member of the New Hampshire House of Representatives?
mrmoshpotato
@satby:
Wow. To not even type a candidate’s name into the Google machine…
As for Pritzker, it’s a shame we had to run a billionaire against a billionaire, but c’mon! I voted for Daniel Biss in the primary, but had no hesitation about voting for J.B. in the general election. Especially when Rauner basically owns the IL Republican party, and I also like having a state budget down in Springfield.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Steeplejack (phone):
I wonder who he and his audience think he said this to. I always think what passes for thoughts in his head look like early cartoons, like from the 1920s.
mad citizen
Harris supporter here–I agree I wouldn’t want to see her be a VP under Warren. Better she remain a Senator–perhaps a Majority Leader at some point. I read her book, and she relates how, when she was CA AG, Holder called her to say he was leaving and offering the US AG to her. She liked her job (large state, etc.) too much to take the D.C. job–of course at that point there was only a year to two left of the Obama administration.
That said, I do think she would absolutely kill it as the Attorney General.
Ruckus
@James E Powell:
In 2 months, Joe Biden turns 77 yrs old.
Yesterday BS turned 78 yrs old.
So Biden is too old but BS is just right?
Biden has the President Obama glow about him, BS got his ass kicked in the last election. Biden has run twice before and only managed maybe 2 steps out of the starting gate both times.
I’m not seeing it for either of them. If it would come down to Biden or BS, Biden has my marker by a long shot.
mrmoshpotato
@Steeplejack (phone):
God bless that crazy, Canadian-born, American national treasure. :)
LuciaMia
Jst read on an older thread that John was at the ER with a stab wound on his hand. What the what?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
ETA: @LuciaMia: he stabbed himself in the hand wrassling a watermelon
details in his twitter feed.
debbie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
FFS. The only light he looks better in is No.
Spanky
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
This is sounding messier and messier.
LuciaMia
Im pretty sure he thinks he can just change his mind or walk away from it when things get nasty
Ruckus
@LivinginExile:
EW as senate majority leader would be excellent in my view. She has intense and specific ideas about laws we need. She’s no nonsense. I’d like to see her work with the Speaker to make laws that work, protect people in need and create better healthcare, no matter what you want to call it, and to create laws that protect us from ever having someone/anyone as shitty as drumpy.
CA is extremely unlikely to send a republican to the senate any time soon, MA may be unlikely to do that, but the risk seems a bit higher.
TenguPhule
Narrator: “He was not kidding.”
debbie
@Steeplejack (phone):
So what do you think this is, Trump trapped in a Sharpie tree?
LuciaMia
Criminy, dont read the posts for a day and all heck breaks loose!
Richard Guhl
@Spanky:
I saw what you did there.
TenguPhule
Somewhere an English dictionary is weeping.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Spanky:
Ya got that right.
Ruckus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The thoughts in his head are not nearly as well drawn out as cartoons from any era. Stone age cave drawings had dramatically more thought put into them.
He doesn’t have thoughts, he has reactions to things. Some of those things don’t make any sense but still he’s always responding, never actually thinking.
debbie
@TenguPhule:
No one is less of a big believer in religion than Trump himself.
Mnemosyne
@debbie:
He’s a big believer that “Christians” like himself (ifyouknowwhathemeans) are superior to everyone else. That’s about it.
debbie
@Mnemosyne:
I believe, if it were possible, that Jesus would beat the crap out of him.
Amir Khalid
@FlipYrWhig:
Wilmeristas are on that river in Egypt.
Jeffro
@debbie: its his supporters getting rained on by non-existent rain (per his claim earlier today)
Citizen Alan
I want kamela Harris to be the 1st African American woman on the US Supreme Court. Can you imagine how many heads would explode? Can you imagine Clarence Thomas’s reaction to sitting next to a strong African American person who is not ruled by their own self loathing?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
He holds half his voters in contempt, the other half hold him in contempt. Of course, that just reflects the age-old tension within the GOP, the church basements vs the country clubs, a pact of cynical mutual loathing
Mary G
Wow, more details on the spy we had to pull out of Russia:
What a terrible loss Twitler has cost us.
Mary G
I agree with Kamala – Dude’s gotta go.
debbie
@Mary G:
I just hope they can keep the guy safe.
MomSense
Just got a text push poll from
Vermont – I think they were surprised by my choices for Democratic nominee.
Mary G
@debbie: Yeah, you know Vlad will be looking. Hopefully Haspel will withhold all information from the entire administration.
MisterForkbeard
@Mary G: That directly contradicts what Trump just said.
Dude’s gotta go.
Mary G
Democrats cooperate with each other:
Gelfling 545
@TenguPhule: “they’re all over the place.” Like bedbugs.
Amir Khalid
When I saw the tweet at the top of the post, my first thought was, “At the Etihad, or at Old Trafford?”
(Manchester City’s stadium and Manchester United’s respectvely. Yes, I know, not that Manchester.)
debbie
@Mary G:
I assume Giffords is Gabby?
It is.
Steeplejack
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I don’t like to think too much about the inside of Trump’s head, but yeah.
Matt McIrvin
@Amir Khalid: I recall a news story of a man from the UK who ended up in the wrong Manchester while trying to get home.
(Remembered it because Manchester-Boston Regional Airport is basically my home airport, or at least the one I try to use whenever I can since it’s uncrowded and conveniently located for me. But there aren’t direct flights to too many places.)
AliceBlue
@Jeffro: Let’s see if NOAA issues a statement declaring that yes, it most certainly was raining in Fayetteville today.
J R in WV
@LuciaMia:
Was trying to slice a watermelon with a pointy knife, and managed to hit the palm of his other hand… Urgent Care Dr and he argued about pain numbers, Dr sent him to the ER, which smelled bad so he left and went home. His family Dr refused to treat it this morning, so he hit up the ER again, not so bad this time.
That pretty much wraps it up. I imagine the watermelon was good and enjoyed by all.
All this according to posts and twits…
Spider-Dan
@Mnemosyne: I’d rather keep Harris in the Senate. I don’t like AG-to-Prez as a pipeline; in fact, I think any cabinet-level position is a bad idea for a Senator with WH aspirations, as they’re already in perfect position to run. And while Hillary was a perfectly fine candidate in 2016, I’d rather not have another primary cycle where the only option for people who don’t like the frontrunner is someone who openly disapproves of the Democratic Party. Let’s keep the backbenches strong.
I think Beto/Castro/Buttigieg are better choices for VP or cabinet positions, as they themselves clearly believe they have hit the ceiling in their own states.
Doug R
@mrmoshpotato: He can’t spell “Andromeda”
Amir Khalid
@Matt McIrvin:
There is a Liverpool in upstate New York, where you probably won’t find many stores selling Liverpool FC or Beatles memorabilia.
James E Powell
@TenguPhule:
I don’t even think we’ve reached Camp IV on the South Col.
Mike in NC
@Amir Khalid: As a history buff I was very excited to visit Liverpool last month. Alas, they’re really only geared for welcoming Beatles fans, which I am not. The two churches we visited (Catholic and Anglican) were rather boring since I’m agnostic.
But as always, London was great.
Jay
Matt McIrvin
@Amir Khalid: It doesn’t look like Liverpool, NY has a huge business district, but I’d guess somebody there is hawking Beatles memorabilia.
Aleta
randy khan was right about the the NOAA statement being ordered at the Dept. of Commerce level:
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/climate/hurricane-dorian-trump-tweet.html
Commerce Chief Threatened Firings at NOAA After Trump’s Dorian Tweets, Sources Say
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NOAA’s statement on Friday is now being examined by the Commerce Department’s Office of Inspector General, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times, and employees have been asked to preserve their files. NOAA is a division of the Commerce Department.
The National Weather Service “must maintain standards of scientific integrity,” the inspector general, Peggy E. Gustafson, wrote in a message to NOAA staff members in which she requested documents related to Friday’s statement. The circumstances, she wrote, “call into question the NWS’s processes, scientific independence, and ability to communicate accurate and timely weather warnings and data to the nation in times of national emergency.”
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Craig N. McLean, NOAA’s acting chief scientist, sent an email to staff members Monday notifying the agency that he was looking into “potential violations” in the agency’s decision to ultimately back Mr. Trump’s statements rather than those of its own scientists. He called the agency’s action “a danger to public health and safety.”
Also on Monday, the National Weather Service director, Louis W. Uccellini, prompted a standing ovation at a weather industry conference in Huntsville, Ala., when he praised the work of the Birmingham office, asked them to stand and said staff members had acted “with one thing in mind, public safety” when they contradicted Mr. Trump’s claim that Alabama was at risk.
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[Commerce denies that Ross threatened “to fire any NOAA staff over forecasting and public statements about Hurricane Dorian.”]
Matt McIrvin
…note also, Manchester, NH isn’t even the only Manchester in New England; there are at least three others (one is a Manchester-by-the-Sea).
mrmoshpotato
@Doug R: Don’t you be slamming an unbuilt English motorway! :)
Another Scott
@Aleta: Excellent. It’s great the NWS isn’t being cowed by Ross and Donnie. It’s vitally important that they stand up, and it’s good to see that they recognize the need as well.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
SFAW
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
They are ALL such vile imitations of actual humans. They make me want to believe that there really is a Hell.
FlipYrWhig
@SFAW: isn’t Guilfoyle willingly fucking Donald Trump Jr..? Does she really want to get into who’s “frolicking” for political advantage?
mrmoshpotato
@FlipYrWhig: Ew.
eddie blake
ummm, how can you be BOTH low-energy AND a FROLICKER?
Lymie
NH convention was awesome. Great energy. The Warren campaign went all out for a good show of support and it worked. Bernie is popular, too.. Biden was weak.
SFAW
@TS (the original):
That happened long before 2016
Perhaps, but those persons probably would not have voted for Trump the first time, either.