Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

American History and Black History Cannot Be Separated

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

Hot air and ill-informed banter

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

T R E 4 5 O N

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

We are aware of all internet traditions.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

Consistently wrong since 2002

Peak wingnut was a lie.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

Let’s finish the job.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

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  2. 2.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    My sense is that it’s explicit; Warren wants crowds to leave in a good mood and thinking that she has an agenda, won’t just focus on Trump noise.

    interesting theory. There are some people who are convinced Warren is “angry”, and not just the right. She seems like the Happy Warrior to me.

    Why does this anger people? I am sure Hillary is in touch with every candidate interested in her advice/help

    Oh…. I can think of one candidate I’m guessing doesn’t have HRC’s cell number. Also, who’s angry? If you just look at lefty twitter, Barack Obama is the worst and most despised president since Nixon, but he has I believe over 90% approval with actual Democrats

  3. 3.

    Baud

    Bernie Beats Trump.”

    I didn’t realize that was his slogan.

    It gives me the same vibe as “Joanie Loves Chachi. “

  4. 4.

    Aleta

    Barak Obama Barack Obama @BarackObama
    Marca had a remarkable way of bringing out the best within us. For me, she was a trusted voice and a persistent, buoyant spirit—an example that progress can be slow, but it’s always possible. We’ll miss her, but we’re far better off because of her fight.

    ______________________________
    In that instant, Ms. Bristo’s life changed forever in ways she could never have anticipated. She lost her job, her health insurance, could no longer use public transportation and had no access to many public places.

    But rather than dwell on her misfortune, she became a powerful advocate for people with disabilities, spending her life working to change perceptions and the rules in a world that had traditionally ignored the needs of the disabled. She was a key player in the passage of the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990, which outlawed discrimination against the nearly 50 million Americans with disabilities.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/08/obituaries/marca-bristo-dead.html
    ______________________________

  7. 7.

    Yarrow

    “All I can do is stand up and talk about why I’m running. I’m not here to criticize any other Democrat.”

    This message is what I want to hear from every Dem candidate. There will obviously be minor differences in policy here or there, but major goals are very similar. Especially as candidates leave the race I expect them to be strong supporters of those that are left and the eventual nominee.

  9. 9.

    Jeffro

    Well, there went Warren’s chances…
    – national snooze media

    F.U.
    – Democratic primary voters to national snooze media

  10. 10.

    Betty Cracker

    @Baud: Ha! Also, a subtle but important difference between the slogans is the subject. It never ceases to amaze me how people proclaim who they are in the smallest ways.

  11. 11.

    MattF

    I just have the feeling that a large number in the media don’t have any knowledge or familiarity with the way Democrats think and react politically– as though that sort of thing is an entirely foreign question. And, yeah, there’s a straightforward explanation for that.

  12. 12.

    RedDirtGirl

    @Baud: I remember when Joanie had a crush on Potsie, and decided she would call him a Dren, which was nerd spelled backwards. Because he was so dreamy?

  13. 13.

    StringOnAStick

    I had a talk with two of the mid-30’s coworkers yesterday, neither are that tuned into politics and whom I will once again give the address change forms so they can vote, but I’ll wait until I am sure they are both staying in their current digs. Both are convinced it will be Biden but don’t know who else is running, and both said they used to like Bernie because of what they thought he stood for but now realize he wags his finger a lot but has no actual plans or history of accomplishment.. I told them that Biden is too old and not an Obama clone (his main appeal to them), but if they lean towards what Bernie has said then Warren has better policies and ACTUAL PLANS. The response was “who?”. JFC, how to get the young people to pay attention?

    In other news, the vast majority of my patients who bring up politics are extremely motivated for the D side. The only pro Mango Moron was a Hispanic guy who has the kind of well-paying but easy tech drone job that are evaporating fast but he doesn’t see that train coming down the track for him because all he watches and listens to is the RW Noise Machine. I predict his job will be gone just when he’s past that magic 50 years old marker, and since it is specialized for a single telecom provider, he’s going to be SOL.

  15. 15.

    Frankensteinbeck

    The knives are definitely out for Warren. The NYT published something about money from big donors in previous elections, and the Left are all over it. The thing is, I think the people who give a damn would never have voted for any Democrat anyway.

  16. 16.

    Noncarborundum

    @Baud:

    It gives me the same vibe as “Joanie Loves Chachi. “

    Bridget loves Bernie, and somehow we have to find her and stop her.

  18. 18.

    Zinsky

    Walter Mondale once said that each successive U.S. president who is elected is thought to be the antidote to the one who became for him (or her). Is Elizabeth Warren the antidote to Trump? I sure think so!!

  19. 19.

    Chyron HR

    Even her “electability” slogan “Win With Warren” contrasts w Sanders’s “Bernie Beats Trump.”

    Every day this gun-humping white nationalist homunculus thinks up a new reason for me to hate him.

  22. 22.

    Another Scott

    It’s a day ending in “y”, so Bibi is going to annex more land if he’s re-elected.

    Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to annex part of the occupied West Bank on the border with Jordan if he is voted back into office next week.

    Mr Netanyahu said he would apply “Israeli sovereignty over the Jordan Valley and northern Dead Sea”.

    Such a move would be popular with right-wing parties which he would have to depend upon to form a coalition but fiercely opposed by Palestinians.

    […]

    Pretty stark choice there, Israelis…

    :-(

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  23. 23.

    Quinerly

    Trump on Twitter:
    I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore….
    ….I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.

  25. 25.

    Kay

    NEW: Elizabeth Warren has been in touch with Hillary Clinton behind the scenes of the 2020 race.

    It made me laugh. Warren has been tainted by contact with The Witch!

    These people are insane. It will not end until Clinton is dead and buried.

    Compare how they treat John Kerry and Mitt Romney with this. Or how they fawned all over John McCain.

  27. 27.

    Bill Arnold

    @Quinerly:
    Thread

    I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore….— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 10, 2019

  29. 29.

    Another Scott

    Dunno where Weigel got that slogan for Wilmer (I haven’t clicked on the videos, etc), but AFAIK Wilmer’s slogan is still – “Not me. Us.”

    Which is still kinda cult-ish if you ask me.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  31. 31.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Donald J. Trump @ realDonaldTrump
    I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore….
    ….I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.

    one of his colder axe-drops, no ‘great, great’, no “my”s, no random capitalizations, fairly normal syntax ….. written by somebody else, but he let it go out

    Is he the scapegoat for the Camp David thing? Or do they think he leaked, to somebody in Congress if not in the press?

  33. 33.

    Gin & Tonic

    @Quinerly: I feel a twinge, as a fellow mustache-American. Not much of a twinge, frankly, but we are under-represented in government as it is.

  35. 35.

    Ruckus

    @Barbara:
    The national media is owned by conservatives. trump is their leader. They want to keep their leader, because conservatism can not be wrong it can only be wronged. Some one here the other day pointed out that they have gone all in so far that backing out now would signal the end of the republican party and those in charge of it just can not be that wrong, they will never admit it. It’s like the 6 yr old with the bread jelly side down on the floor and the table covered in jelly holding the jelly covered knife saying the cat did it.

  38. 38.

    Quinerly

    Just heard in background that Pence has been openly disagreeing with Trump. Any details from anyone? Looks like Bolton offered his resignation last night, Trump didn’t accept. Waited until today to fire Bolton on Twitter

  41. 41.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Bill Arnold:

    I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions

    I 100% believe this. Bolton hates all other countries. Trump hates all other countries. They could bitch together and say warlike things. In Trump’s toddler brain, it seemed like a perfect match. Then he gave Bolton the job, and it turns out Bolton actually wants war. Trump does not want war. War is scary because it turns out you can fuck it up and you get publicly shamed as less competent than Obama. Since Bolton got the job, it’s been nonstop haranguing to do things Trump does not want to do*. Unacceptable, and he only had to find a way around his cowardice to fire Bolton.

    *Trump wants to sit on his ass.

  42. 42.

    Ruckus

    @Quinerly:
    Disagreeing with trump. How quaint. Hard to believe that Bolton isn’t enough racist for trump.
    Also Bolton quitting. Hmmm. Couldn’t get his war on? trump isn’t as big a hater as Bolton? trump can’t get along with anyone that doesn’t 10000% agree with him, no matter what day it is or what he’s typed on twitter today? Say it can’t be so.

  45. 45.

    catclub

    @Quinerly:

    ….I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.

    another (acting) job for Mick Mulvaney

  46. 46.

    Jeffro

    Had to go tweak RWNJ dad and bro a bit…

    “Part of me is glad Bolton’s gone – he is a complete warmongering nut.

    Part of me would like to note this is the 857th firing of a cabinet official and/or top adviser by Mr. “Only The Best People”, meaning he’s about as good at hiring as he was running a casino.

    And part of me is wondering when the adults in the GOP are going to step in and end the chaos. Then again, if this keeps up, we could be looking a historic Dem landslide next November, so…lemonade out of lemons, I guess! =)”

    I’d still rather he just be gone tomorrow but I will take the landslide if I have to

  48. 48.

    catclub

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    *Trump wants to sit on his ass.

    Which I appreciate more than any other appreciation I have of Trump. It beats GWBush’s getting people killed for his ego.
    500,000 dead Iraqis say fuck yeah, too.

  50. 50.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jeffro:

    the 857th firing of a cabinet official and/or top adviser

    Part of me wonders if that number is fact.

    Hell of a shitshow they’re running there.

  51. 51.

    donnah

    Bolton claims he offered to resign last night and Trump said, “They’d talk”. And today Trump fired him via Twitter.

    Typical.

  54. 54.

    Ruckus

    @Jeffro:

    And part of me is wondering when the adults in the GOP are going to step in and end the chaos.

    There are adults in the GOP?
    Name two.

  57. 57.

    kindness

    I’m really not getting the Hillary Hate spewed by ‘ostensible Democrats’. When I say that I mean idiots who probably aren’t actual Democrats to begin with.

    I like & liked Hillary, warts and all. Purity trolls drove a stake through Hillary’s campaign in 2016 and here they are demanding to be able to do it again if Bernie isn’t coronated. Clue to BernieBros….it doesn’t work that way. It didn’t work that way in 2016. It won’t in 2020 either.

  59. 59.

    Jeffro

    @mrmoshpotato: There really are only three outcomes as a trumpov cabinet official or top adviser:
    – fired after coming under investigation for corruption
    – fired for trying to hold the line/follow the law/‘manage’ trumpov
    – bumping along in quiet incompetence

    Then I guess there is the Stephen Miller category
    – kept on permanently as an ‘one man evil ideas machine’

    But other than that, there are no other choices.

    Wait…Nikki Haley
    – got out before I got slung into one of the other categories.
    We’ll need to watch her. That is a level of shrewdness that very few Republicans (and NO trumpov acolytes) possess

  63. 63.

    Ruckus

    @Jeffro:
    I hear she’s a woman. Is that the difference or is it that being a woman has given her a buffer from the MSA – massive stupid attack? After all she seems to be below, or is it above massively stupid. She may still have MSA, hers is just a moderately stupid attack.

  64. 64.

    low-tech cyclist

    @Another Scott:

    Senator Elizabeth Warren told a local newspaper this week that the 2016 Democratic primary process was “fair,” a change from last week, when she said during a series of national TV interviews that the primary was “rigged.”

    Could you link directly to the story where she said the Presidential primary process was rigged? (I assume that’s the primary you’re referring to.) There’s a link to it in the story you link to, but the Boston Globe website is weird and won’t let me click through.

    This is the first I’d heard about her saying that, which I thought would have been really big news.

  65. 65.

    Chris Johnson

    Clinton was right about Russia when I didn’t know shit about any of that. I’m game for Warren or anyone to be conferring with Clinton, but let them be talking about what Russia’s doing: I’d rather Clinton take notes from Warren on economics, please.

  66. 66.

    206inKY

    I would question any major candidate’s decision-making if they weren’t getting advice from Hillary.

  67. 67.

    J R in WV

    @Baud:

    I’m happy to see at least a little acknowledgement outside of BJ that Hillary voters exist.

    She WON that damned election by ACTUAL COUNT OF THE VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!

    So, YES, Hillary voters exist, and out-number the Trump voters!

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