Thanks, as always, to Schroedinger’s Cat:
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has a rally scheduled in Houston this Sunday. WalMart is one of the sponsors and the President of the United States has promised to attend along with an estimated 50,000 attendees.
What bright future are we talking about? The Indian economy is in the doldrums, minority populations live in fear, rapists are not arrested if they belong to the ruling party while activists fighting for the rights of the dispossessed languish in jail without a trial. As for dreams, the dream of a Hindutva dominated India where minorities are persecuted and dissenting voices are silenced, sounds more like a nightmare. Where the truth is sacrificed at the altar of political expediency and history is rewritten to service the ideology of hate.
Why is Modi doing this? My guess is for the publicity and for the $$. It’s also a reward for those among the diaspora who opened their wallets for Modi’s reelection. This rally would give the Prime Minister a much needed PR boost internationally after the draconian anti-democratic steps being taken in Kashmir since August 4th. It will show his fans and supporters back home in India that India has the world’s respect. Getting the US president who routinely demonizes immigrants, to a rally attended mostly by immigrants is definitely a PR coup for team Modi.
I was actually surprised that the White House accepted the invitation. Indian Americans have voted heavily for Democratic candidates in the recent past, see the figure below. Some have suggested that the crowd size may have been the irresistible attraction. Besides the fact that the Hindu right has deep pockets.
In addition to the President, 60 other elected leaders of both parties have promised to attend according to the organizers. Here is the list of those whose names appear in the news dispatch.
Raja Krishnamoorthi
John Cornyn
Ted Cruz
Al Green
Pete Olson
Sheila Jackson Lee
Sylvia Garcia, Greg Abbot
Cindy Hyde-Smith
Ami Bera
Brian Babin
Brad Sherman,
Eliot EngelFirstpost is reporting that Steny Hoyer is also going to attend.
Check if your representative or senator is on the list and going to share a podium with a man who presided over a pogrom targeting Muslims in 2002 as the chief executive of Gujarat and is pursuing a nakedly majoritarian agenda in his second term as the prime minister. Actions in Kashmir being the case in point, where people have been without internet or cell phone access and access to medical care since August 4th.
Check out the BBC for news updates on Kashmir.
Watch this space for more updates on this developing story of the Houston rally. If you have questions leave them in the comments.
Baud
Plus the chance to appear Presidential.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: He hasn’t done that in 2 1/2 years, why start now?
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
He’ll nail it next time. Just you wait and see.
Mike in NC
What are the odds that Fat Bastard will blurt out to 50,000 people, “Go back where you came from!”?
Mary G
Modi is joining Trump’s “Dictators I Love” crowd.
Duane
The whole thing stinks to high heaven. Thanks for front paging this Anne.
schrodingers_cat
@Mike in NC: Pretty high! Well they invited him, so I can’t really feel sorry for them.
schrodingers_cat
@Duane: That’s what I am wondering is what is in it for the Orange One.
Betty Cracker
I don’t understand why any Democrat would attend.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
The number of Indian-American Democrats who would appreciate a snub of the Indian prime minister over the Kashmir issue is quite low.
kindness
Modi is Trump’s twin brother by another mother. The two of them are a pair.
Yarrow
@Betty Cracker: All the Houston area Dem Reps seem to be attending. No surprise at Cruz and Cornyn.
Posted this in a thread this morning but definitely fits here:
Link.
Betty Cracker
@Baud: It’s not just the Kashmir issue. From what I understand (admittedly, not all that much), Modi is a thorough villain on multiple fronts — the OP says as much. It’s not a state dinner with compulsory attendance. It’s a rally, and they’re choosing to attend and lend an imprimatur of respectability to Modi.
Immanentize
Sheila Jackson Lee is (one of) the Reps from Houston. Modi is the PM of a huge friggin country. Of course she should fucking attend.
And SJL is no push over blue dog fuck up. Are we now totally adopting the “I hate you. No, I hate YOU!” theory of politics?
Pogo.
Yarrow
@Betty Cracker:
Here’s a little more background on why some of the Congressional Representatives might attend:
Link.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Even though it’s not a state dinner, it would still be a snub to refuse an invitation to a big event with the PM of a major country.
As far as Modi’s villain status, I’m not going to defend him, but is it out of the standard deviation of foreign leaders our officials will meet with during U.S. visits?
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
I don’t like how it looks that any Democrats are going to this thing. And it isn’t only how it looks; I think it’s just wrong. As 21st Century dictators and despots go, Modi doesn’t seem to be among the worst, at least as far as I can tell. But that’s mighty faint praise. Nobody with any morals should be caught dead within a mile of this shit.
Cermet
India is starting down the path many countries will soon be walking – AGW induced Barbarism (the title of a recent book.) Global warming is destroying the bases of the traditional world order that was so painfully created these last hundred years or so. India, like most of the equatorial regions of the world are doomed. So, such behavior will soon become the norm all over the world. We too are treading the same path as Central America starts to see the full effects of AGW. People so missed the real killer – not ocean rising, not strange weather but maxim and sustained temperatures in the summer months. That is deadly beyond what people were lead to believe – we in the first world find these temps annoying but our life based on AC allows us to overlooked the worse of it. Not so for the third world; it spells death or forced migration. Yes, weather changes will drive mass starvation and encourage the spread of new disease but heat and humidity are the real killers. In thirty to fifty years,most of India/Pakistan/Iran, much of South East Asia & Southern China, and much of the Middle East as well as Central America will not support human life in summer months. We so missed the boat on the real killer. We are seeing it start and fascism, intolerance, and finally murder will be its children. You are just seeing the faint start of what future generations and our children will be seen dialed up to eleven. We can thank the elite and 0.001% for this path that we are, regardless of the next ten years, gonna endure.
debbie
@Mike in NC:
“I love the Indians! No one loves the Indians better then me!”
rikyrah
Let’s see what happens. I am curious about all of this. Why Houston? Why not London?
Did he go to London?
What kind of speech will he give??
Thanks for the post, SC.
Mai naem mobile
We have the south Asian channels on DISH network. They’ve been advertising this event a lot but the ad just mentions Modi not his pal Trumpov. At least the one ad I’ve seen a lot. Jingoistic garbage. I don’t follow Inidan politics but Modi just gives me the creeps by his affect. This is from years ago when he was being pushed as some kind of wunderkind of Gujarat. Putin , Bolsonari and Duterte just come across as thugs but Modi comes across as a creep.
Betty Cracker
@Baud: I’m no expert on protocol, but the name of the event makes it sound like a rah-rah thing to honor Modi rather than a meeting to influence policy, etc., so I don’t get why anyone who values human rights would participate, other than possibly to ingratiate themselves with constituents who support a hard right nationalist in the Old Country. Anyhoo, I’m curious about ‘cat’s take on that; she follows this a lot more closely than I do.
schrodingers_cat
@rikyrah: He has had a big rally of this kind in London and Silicon valley in his first term. He loves hamming it up for the cameras.
Yarrow
@rikyrah: He’s going to New York City right afterwards. He’s stopping in Houston because it has a very large Indian population.
Mai naem mobile
I am surprised Nicky Haley and Booby Jindal aren’t on the list of people appearing. Also Ro Khanna.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
She’s following the event more than I am, but I don’t think it’s a rah-rah rally for Modi per se. It’s more like the events that happened when the Pope visited the us, except for the Indian community here rather than Catholics.
Baud
@Baud:
The us = the U.S.
ola azul
@Betty Cracker:
My take exactly.The rally aspect is determinative (for me, anyway). Notta state din, as you say, and ain’t no way Dems need to sanction this, specially when the blow-up-in-yer-face-for-being-part-of-it quotient is rather high. If you were a Dem, would you trust the comportment of either of these goons not to excrete stink onto you? I wouldn’t.
Might turn out unobjectionably, but wouldn’t bet onnit. If this turns into a demagogue-fest between two reprehensible “leaders”, there’re gonna be a buncha Dems wishing they hadn’t gone.
Mai naem mobile
I am surprised Nicky Haley and Booby Jindal aren’t on the list of people appearing. Also Ro Khanna.@rikyrah: Houston has a huge South Asian population. Houston has a 24/7 South Asian radio station. Regular AM station not some online station.
Millard Filmore
@Cermet:
Do you have a link to support this assertion? My understanding is that the polar areas will warm up more than the tropical regions will bake. Ocean currents will transport heat very effectively to make the temperature gradient even out. Is our configuration of continents going to frustrate that?
I share your worry, but a smaller global catastrophe will do the same thing.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: @Betty Cracker: He is pretty popular among upper caste Hindus, who make the bulk of immigrants to this country from India. They would probably call me self hating Hindu or a Macaulyite or some other slur.
It is a rah rah Modi rally. No other PMs did rallies like these before.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Is that someone who likes Macaulay Culkin?
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
And thanks.
mrmoshpotato
@Mike in NC:
The odds are high. We’re talking about an orange trash, racist shitpile after all.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: He was the British official who brought English education to India and was dismissive of Indian (Hindu) philosophy etc.
schrodingers_cat
@Yarrow: This Shringla person was pimping Steve fucking Bannon on Twitter the other day. He later deleted that tweet.
gene108
@kindness:
Modi wasn’t born rich. He’s savvy, and competent in governing.
@Baud:
Yup.
@Betty Cracker:
All OP’s have their personal axes to grind.
Kathleen
@debbie: Which woman in the Indian delegation will he call “Pocahontas”?
Jay
ola azul
@schrodingers_cat:
Would it be fair to say Modi is imitating the Trump playbook of staging red-meat rallies for selfish xenophobes and bullies and rubes? Or did Modi’s use of rallies precede Trump’s repugnant ascendance? (Consulted Lord Google re: when Modi was sworn in — May of ’14 — but am unaware of how long he’s relied upon this tactic; curious which direction, if any, the right-wing demagogic imitation flows.)
ETA: Tx. for time and effort put into this timely post.
schrodingers_cat
@ola azul: He has done these huge rallies for Indian expats before T became President IIRC.
Matt
Trump and Modi can bond over their shared love of Hitler and hatred of Muslims. They could even compare who’s got the highest score on “inciting massacres”!
gene108
@schrodingers_cat:
There weren’t as many Indians from India before.
Former co-workers cousin quit a junior IT position, in the USA, 20+ years ago and got involved with the Congress Party. He’s had several positions, within the party, but has never been nominated to stand for election.
Anyway, Congress has had fundraisers / events like this too, when they were in power. I don’t think the headliner was the PM, though.
TenguPhule
And not too far away, the chickenshits are drumming up another war.
TenguPhule
@Kathleen:
All of em, Katie.
schrodingers_cat
Modi has T beat on this score, way back in 2002 when he was the Chief Minister of Gujarat.
Mandalay
@Immanentize:
This times ten thousand. Attendance does not mean support, especially when the event is being held in Houston, and you are in Congress to represent Houston.
It’s ironic that this OP should appear on the same day as Cole’s thread which (correctly) savaged the AZ Democratic Party for considering censuring Kyrsten Sinema for being too supportive of Trump.
Some hills are worth dying for purely on principle, but Modi’s rally surely ain’t one of them (and nor is Sinema’s voting record).
Adam L Silverman
@Cermet: Well aren’t you just a big bright beam of sunshine tonight!
schrodingers_cat
@schrodingers_cat: That comment was a reply to #42.
Adam L Silverman
@Mai naem mobile: Because Nikki Haley is passing and Bobby Jindal thinks he’s passing.
Immanentize
@Adam L Silverman:
Jindal is past passing and has passed. Or, it’s political equivalent.
Immanentize
I am always at a loss these days — could someone please supply a list (whether Bernie! approved) of all the elected foreign leaders elected Democratic officials cannot be seen with or be seen near? Because I just don’t know that much about it, it would be most helpful to suggest the African leaders that are off the Dems. guest list.
Thank you.
Jay
@TenguPhule:
They arn’t going to get one.
Dan B
@Millard Filmore: Here are a few articles on tropical heat disaster predictions:
National Geographic June 19, 2017 …by 2200 Deadly Heat…
Newsweek July 31, 2018 A Surge in Deadly Heat Waves….
Yale University Jan 2 2018 Global Warming could cause Dangerous Increase in Humidity. (there are related articles at Yale 360)
DW.com. Deadly Heatwaves set to Surge… Little Warming needed for Tropics to turn “deadly”
There are many others articles from The Guardian and others from a serach for Deadly Heat Tropics Global Warming.
The poles, especially the Arctic, will warm faster but the Tropics will be pushed beyond temperatures and humidity (dewpoint) that humans and vegetation / crops can survive. There’s evidence that it is already locked in unless we can pull immense quantities of greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere.
Yarrow
@Mandalay: It’s just a dumb argument.
Al Green, Pete Olson, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Sylvia Garcia are all Representatives from the Houston area. They’re all supposedly going. All but Olson are Democrats. Olson represents the area with the largest South Asian population.
I don’t see Dan Crenshaw on the list. Kind of surprised by that. He’s also from the Houston area and is a Republican.
Jay
https://gen.medium.com/antifas-keyboard-warriors-254f62be2a95
BTW, another planning a mass murdering Nazi arrested today,
Dan B
@Adam L Silverman: Me too, me too! Over here!
Well at least I have a solution. Gimme 100 trillion and I may save the day, er, century.
Immanentize
I love Star Trek:
From Undiscovered Country:
Democratic Party koan
Jay
http://idavox.com/index.php/2019/09/18/stormtroopers-protect-klansmans-georgia-trump-rally/
Your Tax Dollars at “work”.
Mandalay
O/T, the mustache of military might isn’t going quietly…
Aleta
Thanks for this, schrodingers_cat.
It is unsettling. Your clarity helps a lot.
Brachiator
@schrodingers_cat:
Apart from publicity, and distraction from what is happening in Kashmir, what does Modi gain from this? A White House visit and consultation with State Department officials would be appropriate if trade deals or other matters were in play. Or even immigration.
I guess I can see the PR vanity play. But is there anything else he might be after.
Are Trump and the GOP going to suggest that India is an acceptable non-white country? I don’t know that the dumbest conservative Americans know much about India, or even know enough to distinguish India from Pakistan.
And the US has also been friendly towards Pakistan recently. How does this tilt towards India look to them?
It’s interesting that Modi is pretending that all is right with the world and that his actions in Kashmir are acceptable.
How is the Indian media treating this story? I imagine there must be some intimidation or encouragement to put a positive spin on the visit.
ETA. I will admit that I think that Modi handled his visit to the Indian space agency well during the failed lunar landing.
Brachiator
@Mandalay:
Damn. Stuff like this helps Trump with his base and others. Trump is an idiot about foreign policy, but he has no problems shitting on GOP hawks and neoconservatives. And all these people applauding Bolton will kiss Trump’s ass the next time they are in a room with him.
They will also write him a fat check for his campaign.
schrodingers_cat
@Brachiator: He is good at stage craft. His admirers loved the hug, while his detractors pointed out that he hugged the scientist the next day after he returned with photographers. On the day of the failed mission he was brusque and curt.
schrodingers_cat
@Aleta: Thanks. I am in mourning for the India I knew.
1. Dissent is being silenced, many politically motivated cases targeting the opposition
2, News media is mostly subservient, people have lost jobs for criticizing the BJP
3. Several Muslims have been lynched by mobs
4. Kashmiris have been under an armed siege with limited outside contact for over 40 days now, no internet and no cellphones.
5. Intellectuals who questioned the rise of BJP have been gunned down outside their homes, Gauri Lankesh, Kalburgi, Govind Pansare’s killers have yet to be brought to justice.
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/21/751541321/this-is-it-im-going-to-die-indias-minorities-are-targeted-in-lynchings
Jay
Anne Laurie
@Mike in NC:
Since he just publicly greeted the Hispanic candidate he was supposed to be promoting, at a Latinx conference, with the question ‘Which do you like best, the Hispanics or the country?”… I’m sure he’ll come up with something that will embarrass the rest of us. “Joking” about sharing a nice cheeseburger with Modi, for instance…
Jay
@Brachiator:
He flies home with a shitload of nonsequential USD small bills stuffed in bag after bag to use at his “discrescion”.
Jay
Mathguy
I have a colleague that was telling me about what a humanitarian Modi is, the personal sacrifices he makes–he sounded exactly like a shitgibbon cultist. Apparently choosing to be unaware of Kashmir, the economy, etc. Spooky.
Anne Laurie
@Mai naem mobile:
Haley and Khanna, at least, have political ambitions which would require them to get the votes of centrists, if not center-left voters. An event like this is only liable to hurt them with people whose baseline is “I’ll vote for a not-mayonnaise-pale candidate, if they’re not all strident.”
schrodingers_cat
@Mathguy: I bet your friend is an upper caste, most likely Brahmin male.
BJP Twitter warriors (some are real, some are bots and some are paid operators) approvingly retweet Katie Hopkins’ bile against the London mayor, Muslims etc.
ETA to my list at #65
6. Undermining science by spinning fabulist tales about what is in the Vedas (like our RWNJs but replace Vedas for the Bible)
7. Rewriting Indian history to suit their majoritarian agenda.
Sebastian
@Jay:
This is the scariest thing I’ve read in a long time.
Another Scott
The Gates Foundation is giving Modi an award, also too.:
I’m not surprised that they’re blind to all of the horrible things he’s doing.
Grrr…
I was surprised that Obama was so buddy-buddy with Modi, but I assume that was for geopolitcal reasons (wrt China). He’s certainly cooled on Modi now (2017).
Cheers,
Scott.
Jay
Stuck in moderation, again.
Anne Laurie
@Yarrow:
Suspect even the Trump handlers don’t trust Crenshaw not to blurt out something that would be all over the airwaves the next morning, and not in a good way. Even worse, a Crenshaw faux pas might overshadow Donny Dollhand’s “brilliant wit” — and nobody is allowed to be ‘funnier’ than Lord Smallgloves.
Mathguy
@schrodingers_cat: Nailed it–he is.
Mike G
Waiting for Trump to make a ‘Pocahontas’ crack about Elizabeth Warren.
Jay
@Sebastian:
History, learn from it,……
Anne Laurie
@Mike G: He has been, but the only people paying attention any more are the Media Village Idiots… and a bunch of Sandernistas trying to use it as an ‘electibility’ argument against her.
As the Social Media Geenyus-in-Chief has said, he used that insult ‘too early’ — now the virality has worn off.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Jay:
Sounds like a total crock
schrodingers_cat
@Another Scott: I get why Obama (when he was President) and other elected Ds show PM Modi respect. They have to, he is the duly elected leader of a major country. Its respect for the office if not the man.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Jay:
These officers need to be identified and pressure needs to be put on their departments to not only fire them but blacklist them from law enforcement. Those fascist white supremacist fucks aren’t patriots. They’re an existential threat to everything the US has achieved not only in the last 50-60 years but the last 200. The kind of state they would build would resemble Russia. They have to be stopped
Sebastian
@Jay:
I am really concerned about the Little Green Men (black here) without insignia.
justawriter
Now convinced that Hoyer could show up in Pelosi’s office covered in hooker blood and nibbling on a decapitated skull and everything will be fine but I will hold my tongue so we don’t alienate the moderates.
Ladyraxterinok
@Cermet: Your extremely depressing outline of the world’s future is what my son (b 1969) has been describing for the last 3 or more yrs. He is especially negative about what he sees as the inevitable rise of dictatorships and the destruction of democracy as societies take draconian measures to preserve their water, land, and food for themselves. Taking ever harsher measures to prevent refugees from entering the country.
Origuy
Khanna is my rep. He’s too close to Bernie for my liking, but he’s out in front on a lot of things. Here’s what he said last month:
Ladyraxterinok
@Jay: Have you been following the One Peoples Project for a while? What’s your take on it and what it’s doing? Thsnks for any info.