“Don’t shoot anyone in the face!”
Remember when Dick Cheney accidentally shot a hunting companion in the face and the above line became something of a catch phrase on left-leaning blogs? (The weirdest part of the story is that the man who was shot apologized to Cheney!)
There’s a whole generation of grown liberals today who don’t remember that shit. Below are texts I exchanged with my daughter, who was mystified by an ad for a hunting cap with Cheney’s name on it:
It made me wonder what other tropes young adults today don’t know. In a few decades, we’ll be rambling about walking birds…
Open thread!
zhena gogolia
Oh, don’t get me started. I first knew I was old when I asked a room full of students which president said he had “lusted in his heart” and they looked at me as if I was mad.
And that was probably 20 years ago.
zhena gogolia
They’ve never heard of “glasnost,” I can tell you that based on yesterday morning. Well, one of them had but he’s from Kazakhstan.
HumboldtBlue
Here’s an image of Trump that could double for Boris Johnson.
rikyrah
More than 352k people have registered to vote in Georgia this year, sending voting rolls to record high. 47% of new registrants are minorities, 45% under 30 – t.co/bOctcSTOK6
— Reid Wilson (@PoliticsReid) October 1, 2019
SiubhanDuinne
I don’t even remember now why it came up in conversation, but only a couple of weeks ago I made some reference to Dick Cheney’s shooting his friend in the face, and the friend’s apology. The young woman had no idea what I was talking about. To be fair, the incident was almost 14 years ago, and I think the woman I was talking to was about 12 at the time, so maybe the story just didn’t penetrate to middle-school levels.
rikyrah
CNN, Buzzfeed + the public will be seeing more FBI memos of witness interviews from Mueller, beginning w 500 pages by Nov. 1.
Judge Walton wasn’t happy all 44K pages of Mueller 302 memos could take years to release publicly, per @davidgshortell t.co/EcvKnoDq8S
— Katelyn Polantz (@kpolantz) October 1, 2019
JPL
@zhena gogolia: trump does, or at least he acts like he does.
Steeplejack
A lot of tropes are going to be coming up for retirement. Seinfeld is now 20-30 years old, and a lot of yoots don’t remember the “classic” laugh lines except as faint echoes on Twitter.
The Simpsons seems to be faring better, maybe because it’s still running.
rikyrah
Kapow ???
John Pijanowski (@John_Pijanowski) Tweeted:
10 yr old walking into the Jefferson Memorial in DC: “It’s hard to believe somebody who did so many great things was also such a bad person.”
Sneering stranger wheels around on him with a lecture about what a great man he was
Kid calmly retorts: “He enslaved his own children.”
John Revolta
@zhena gogolia: Well 40 actually. But time flies like an arrow.
(Fruit flies like a banana.)
billcinsd
To be pedantic, Harry Whittington was never a judge, but was the head of the Texas Funeral Commission, and they were hunting quail not pheasant’s
trollhattan
@zhena gogolia:
Good point. They also don’t know who Gorbachev is or what he accomplished, and that he’s still alive!
We had a German girl stay with us this year and while I conversed with her about Osties and Westies and the Wall and all that, it finally occurred to me she was born in the unified Germany and had a viewpoint that it was always thus. Not that they’re not taught their history, just that it’s, well, history.
You should have seen me explaining the Pony Express to her.
Miss Bianca
@rikyrah: Yay! Does this mean they’ll actually *get to vote*, tho’? That’s what’s keeping me up at nights.
HumboldtBlue
@rikyrah:
Damn. That burn.
Mnemosyne
@Steeplejack:
Friends is a big hit on Netflix, so all of those memes are coming back.
Miss Bianca
@trollhattan: Errr…Gorby is still alive?
*checks Google*
Son of a gun!
piratedan
hell, by now, how many remember the debacle that was “Mission Accomplished!”…..
trollhattan
@billcinsd:
The “best” part was his very public apology to Cheney for creating such a fuss and distracting him from the task of being Dick Fucking Cheney. We then finally understood the man’s true power.
And holy crap, when Jason Jones did the TDS report on that “game” ranch. What an eye-opener that was. “How much will it cost me to shoot the dog?”
Mai naem mobile
@billcinsd: he died not that many years later. To be fair he was pretty old but I have to believe being shot and having buckshot all over his body shortened his life.
Miss Bianca
@HumboldtBlue: @rikyrah: Yeah, kind of hard to argue with that one.
trollhattan
@Miss Bianca:
Right? Seems remarkable, given everything that has occured since his day.
Martin
I call bullshit on this whole post Betty. You have a daughter too young to remember Cheney shooting someone in the face and yet she claims she’s on Facebook? Sorry, nobody that young would admit to being on Facebook.
trollhattan
@Mai naem mobile:
It’s certainly not good for your continued well-being. Ask Greg Lemond.
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
They might well opine that 23 skidoo refers to a company people send used undies to for DNA testing.
;)
trollhattan
@Martin:
You’d have a stronger point if it were My Space.
Although with my kid’s cohort it’s Snapchat or Get Out.
Leto
@rikyrah: @HumboldtBlue: Daaaaaaammmmmnnnn!
@zhena gogolia: Avalune and I are like that: we make tons of pop culture references and the youngin’s around us are always, “Whaaaaat?” At which point we’d explain and then tell them they really need to watch/read/listen to X. I won’t even start about history, recent or older…
trollhattan
@NotMax:
WOOOF!
John Revolta
Never mind. I think I misread your comment.
NotMax
@billcinsd
To be even more pedantic, calling what they were engaged in hunting overstretches the term.
“Y’all ready? We’re going to release the caged quails right over here on the count of three.”
Leto
@trollhattan: wait, what happened to Greg?
*checks google*
Holy shit!
Jeffro
Larry Sabato made a comment about Ukraine-a-Lago (Gate) the other day, and said something along the lines of “this could be a whole Imelda Marcos closet-full of shoes dropping here” and then added “Google it”
LOLOL
Whole world’s speedin’ up these days, yes sirree. Why, you used to be able to catch up on world & domestic politics with just a few Doonesbury collections. ;)
Enhanced Voting Techniques
I am amazed the story has faded like that, elderly rich white men shooting each other in face while pretending to be great hunters is a classic.
And let’s drop the “hunting” nonsense, shooting staked out animals from a car isn’t hunting in any sense.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mai naem mobile:
According to Wikipedia, Harry Whittington is still very much alive, at age 92.
HumboldtBlue
@trollhattan:
Troll, aren’t you the one with the cross-country running kiddo?
If so, share this article with her. I posted this link yesterday. A nine-year-old boy enters 5K race ends up winning adult 10K race.
Gravenstone
@Mai naem mobile:
Birdshot. He likely wouldn’t have survived had Cheney been using buckshot.
justawriter
I’m so old I remember when “Francisco Franco is still dead” was funny. Other ephemera in my brain:
Killer Rabbit
“I have outlawed Russia, the missiles launch in five minutes”
“Read my lips.”
Saxophone on Arsenio
Clearing brush on the ranch
Old … so old
Dorothy A. Winsor
Giuliani pouted that everybody scrutinized him and ignored Biden and the Clinton’s. Hillary took it as a chance to have a little fun
God knows, the woman earned the right to enjoy this.
PenandKey
Well damn, and here I’ve had to remind my ten year old that “bite my shiny metal ass” isn’t appropriate for public use as an insult, nor is “I don’t think that word means what you think it means”, and that he shouldn’t say “Chickeeen… Good!” when enjoying a chicken recipe. I figure what kids are “too young for” is all about the language and culture the youngins are exposed to. Mine? He knows way more late 80s to early 2000s fantasy and sci-fi than he probably should. Politics? That’s just starting.
As for the whole “Darth Cheney shot a guy in the face” fact? I’m in my early/mid 30s and I imagine there are quite a few grown adults don’t know about the weird things that occurred 13 years ago.
Dorothy A. Winsor
If you haven’t seen VICE yet, you should watch it. You have to be ready to be outraged all over again though. Maybe hide anything you could throw at the screen.
SRW1
@Jeffro:
Shouldn’t Imelda Marcos jokes be focusing on Ivanka?
AliceBlue
@rikyrah: That’s wonderful news; I just hope there isn’t a repeat of 2016 when thousands of new registrations were “lost.”
Leto
@Dorothy A. Winsor: She continues to be in top form. I really enjoyed her appearance last night on Colbert. Chelsea poking fun at her for writing everything out longhand is another generational thing with which I think most here would identify.
NotMax
@justawriter
Holding the beagles up by the ears?
“a good Republican cloth coat?
54 40 or fight?
;)
joel hanes
Cheney wasn’t hunting.
He was killing.
He was not properly licensed to hunt wild game.
He wasn’t afield but was instead on a game farm shooting farm-raised birds.
He was drunk.
trollhattan
@HumboldtBlue:
Brilliant, thanks, I will share! Hope the kid likes and continues to run–he’ll do well.
jl
I guess “I did not inhale’ is an olden goldie.
We need a post on Trumpster base memes that only they understand. That would be helpful to me, since I either don’t understand, or need some time to ransack my memory to figure out. I guess good news is that it looks like Trump is going to base half his campaign on those obscure memes, and around 60 percent of the population won’t have a clue what he is talking about. I wonder if Trump will ramble on about missing servers in the general election debates, if he is sill in office by then.
trollhattan
@joel hanes:
Simply appalling hobby for appalling people. No better than the yutzes to travel to Africa to mow down “trophy” animals. Lookin’ at you, Donny Jr. and whatsis name that daddy wants to forget.
ETA didn’t Nino Scalia die at one of those places?
joel hanes
@justawriter:
The President and his family playing touch football on the White House lawn.
Probably my first political memories are Kruschev pounding the UN podium with his shoe, and his face in B/W on the cover of LIFE magazine.
Kay
Yes! I want him below 40 :)
?BillinGlendaleCA
@SiubhanDuinne:
I guess, getting shot in the face is good for you. Who knew?
NotMax
@Gravenstone
Gimme a bullshot any day instead.
:)
jl
@joel hanes: Thanks for info. I didn’t know Cheney was shooting birds on one of those game farms that are really open air shooting galleries. Figures.
And I don’t think that crowd considers day drinking all day, and walking around tipsy on soda pop cut with vodka or whiskey or whatever, really drinking. I think that is what Cheney was drunk on.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@justawriter: You forgot…”Boxers or briefs?”
Steeplejack (phone)
@Mnemosyne:
Yeah, I think Friends and The Office have legs because of Netflix. But the only two verbal memes I remember from Friends are Joey’s “How you doin’?” and them (mostly Chandler?) using so as an intensifier. “I am so not into that.”
Kay
I told you-all. There is no better leading indicator than a lack of overtime in this county :)
Redshift
@Kay:
I want him at 27%. :-)
moops
I’d guess Monty Python and SNL gags are going to go stale soon. “You Look Marvelous”, “My wife, Morgan Fairchild”…
unless the meme gets re-used in a more modern context, like spam.
joel hanes
@jl:
Cheney was drunk enough that they delayed reporting the incident until his BAC went down.
If I were guessing, I’d guess that they were drinking straight bourbon from pocket flasks.
justawriter
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Depends
(my favorite punchline of that era)
Roger Moore
@billcinsd:
To be extremely pedantic, they weren’t hunting in any meaningful sense. Their “hunt” was for human raised birds that were released from cages on demand to be shot at. That’s closer to shooting at living skeet than it is to actual hunting.
Kay
As I believe I have mentioned my youngest is a newly minted Leftist, and a little unbearable about it. But he attends a very conservative public high school so I forgive him for being so combative. He needs it.
This will be his first Presidential primary- he’ll be old enough to vote in the general so in Ohio that means he can participate in the primary prior- he’s a Bernie man :)
SiubhanDuinne
Good news! A federal judge has just struck down Georgia’s restrictive abortion law, which was scheduled to go into effect next January 1st — the “heartbeat” bill.
Cowgirl in the Sandi
Years ago I belonged to a Jimmy Buffett listserv. Jimmy uses lots of references in his songs and I remember several loooonnnngggg discussions about Pencil Thin Mustache – who was Ricky Ricardo.
Another discusson had to do with the lyric ‘smoked a whole lid’. Youngs were mystified – who was RR and what’s a lid.
Kay
@Redshift:
I feel like under 40 is meaningful. One of my sisters is a reliable D voter but she doesn’t care for politics. I was thrilled the other day when she told me, casually, “people think he’s a joke now”. Like “everyone knows that”
Which people? How many? The people who don’t follow politics? That would be great wouldn’t it? I don’t think he can BEAR being made fun of.
moops
It will be sad when Futurama references become obscure. “Shut up and take my money!”
japa21
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Billy Carter, I am not a crook, You won’t have Dick Nixon to kick around any more. The Dewey Beats Truman headline…wait I may be starting to date myself.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Once the NBC/Universal streaming service ramps up, some prime drivers of traffic to Netflix goin’ bye-bye.
Kent
High School teacher here
A couple of weeks ago I was standing in front of a class of HS seniors on September 11, and the principal was doing the usual 9-11 homage bullshit over the announcements and I realized that not one single one of my HS senior students was even born yet on 9/11.
I graduated from HS in 1982 and for today’s graduating seniors, 9-11 is as far in the distant past as the Kennedy Assassination was for my generation. I remember my HS teachers talking about it every Nov 22.
My daughter is a HS junior and her history class is covering the Roaring 20s right now. I did the math. For her the 1960s is as far in the distant past as the Roaring 20s was for my generation of 1980s HS kids. And the Vietnam war is as far in the distant past for her as World War 1 was for my generation.
They don’t really remember any president before Obama. They were very little kids during Bush’s second term.
Time goes by so very fast.
moops
@Roger Moore: yeah, they were with their car, next to a field where someone was tossing quail in the air for them to shoot…and they were all drunk. They are such awful people.
Jay
rikyrah
@Kay:
Been telling us for months, Kay.
keep on it.
chopper
“mom, why are you wearing an onion on your belt?”
Amir Khalid
Since it’s Open Thread:
My flabber was gasted by this story. When the International Association of Athletics Federations tested these new camera-equipped starting blocks before using them at its world championship meet, did no one notice that they were pointed straight at the athlete’s crotch?
PenandKey
According to my grade school son they already are. That doesn’t stop him, or his unashamedly geeky parents, from referencing it regularly.
Elizabelle
@SiubhanDuinne: I didn’t know Whittington was still alive either. Probably confused because poor guy had a heart attack a few days after Cheney plugged him.
And, last line of your wiki entry:
What a surprise.
HumboldtBlue
Maryland’s Eastern Shore is a different sort of place and now it’s one of the best places to see the real physical impacts of climate change.
cain
@SiubhanDuinne:
And thus it time to bring this mony python reference. :-)
Betty Cracker
@Martin: She mostly uses it to sell stuff! Very enterprising kid. ;-)
@Kent: Whoa — that puts it in perspective.
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
Feature, not a bug.
“And the director’s cut DVD of the race includes as extras….”
:)
Steeplejack (phone)
@Cowgirl in the Sandi:
Boston Blackie (TV, not movies) was the pencil thin mustache. Ricky Ricardo was a two-toned jacket or something like that. I don’t think he ever had a mustache, at least when he was famous.
HumboldtBlue
@Amir Khalid:
I read that story yesterday. Absurd.
Ladyraxterinok
@justawriter: Saxaphone on Arsenio—true classic. Is that anywhere on internet now?
RedDirtGirl
@rikyrah: I saw that. It gives one a bit of hope!
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Babaloo!
JPL
@justawriter: Francisco Franco ‘is being recognized more and more’ just sayin
cain
@SiubhanDuinne:
Seems like y’all should be celebrating Navaratri!
Elizabelle
@Amir Khalid: That’s so awful it’s funny.
Roger Moore
@moops:
I think that one is common enough for people to use it without knowing its origin.
HumboldtBlue
@Amir Khalid:
And the United States won the first-ever mixed 4×400 relay in world record time. The race is well worth a watch and American runner Allyson Felix won another gold meaning she passed Usain Bolt for the most world titles. I’m pretty sure she gave birth less than a year ago, although I may be confusing her with another US athlete.
Also, Doha? Fifa is corrupt so we get a World Cup in fucking Qatar and the IAAF is corrupt so we get world track and field championships in fucking Doha. How absurd.
jl
@Kay: @Kay: OK, I’ll bite. People have probably heard in news today that manufacturing orders took a big dive in last IMS report, and the dive was lead by manufacturing sectors hit hardest in exports due to Trump’s tariff wars. The multi-month slump is more severe than the one that signaled the 2015 to 2016 slow down, which qualified as a short recession by international used definition reported by OECD, and which IMHO opinion did serious damage to Democrats, as presidential incumbent party.
@paulkrugman
OK, that’s not good. ISM manufacturing index. Important contrast with 2015-16 slump, which was due to nonpolicy factors (mainly slump in oil prices and hence energy investment). This is all about Trump’s trade war.
twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1179065335363846145
Edit: click link to see Krugman’s pretty graph.
And signs that the Treasury 10 year – 3 month inversion is bottoming out, when it starts to un-invert rapidly, you can figure a recession in 6 months to a year. And signs that Fed’s conventional policy tools (lowering interest rates) will run into trouble. Been repeated and mysterious little liquidity crises in overnight federal securities market (repo) after Fed auctions to lower rates.
If a growth slowdown occurs, let alone a recession, before 2020 general, Trump and GOP will be in even bigger trouble than they are now. News tends to emphasize job market and consumer sentiment, but those are very short term indicators. By the time those go down, the economic slowdown has either arrived or will be here in a couple of months.
Bad news that with Trumpsters taking economy into uncharted territory of sugar high and very inefficient and unproductive fiscal stimulus in late stage of an expansion, and over extended conventional monetary policy that is not prepared for downturn, and damage to fiscal automatic stabilizers… unexpected results may occur. So onset of even a relatively mild downturn may well be harsh and very noticeable. Might have a little financial crisis to go with it, though I don’t think a big one. Depends on how much shadow banking and Great Recession securitization played role in financing corporate stock buy backs with rich mans tax cuts, which is hard to figure out until it is too late.
OK, I got my economic forecasting licks in today. Been looking for an excuse.
Edot: an upside is that an economic slowdown is a great very short run climate change policy.
RedDirtGirl
@trollhattan: I met young (at the time) woman who had grown up in East Berlin. She told me that people on the other side would send random care packages over with helium balloons.
piratedan
@cain: if there was ever an administration that was a Monty Python skit equivalent, I’d have to say that this group comes pretty close to being the embodiment of the Upperclass Twit of the Year sketch….
trollhattan
@Kent:
Yesterday I was muttering to my HS senior about the last three days and not being able to keep up. She finds nothing different with now and any time in the Trump era, and when you’re in the middle of it and only know this guy and his polar opposite, I suspect continual chaos is just the new normal.
And, thank you for your service.
There, repurposed for teachers. :-)
delk
When I was in the hospital for my hip replacement I was asked by everybody how many stairs I had to deal with each day. I told them I live on the second floor but my name is not Luka. Not one person had any idea what I was talking about or knew the song.
JR
@trollhattan: I will always remember this Sacha Baron Cohen clip when it comes to hunting. Very unsettling (but certainly prophetic).
cain
@NotMax:
It’s not sustainable, there is only so much Office and friends that app is going ot generate. Netflix has good content and even more it’s content around the world. Secondly, you know they are going to raise their rates, and thirdly nobody is going to be able to afford all the streaming services they have to pick and choose. Thta’s not going to make people happy.
Invariably, Netflix and Amazon Prime are still the best deals you can get when it comes to content.
Roger Moore
@Jay:
They never learn. As I have mentioned here several times before, I know people who became politically aware- and really angry at the Republicans- because of their attempts to manipulate the DWTS vote for Bristol Palin.
germy
Ladyraxterinok
@NotMax: a good Republican cloth coat—Nixon sanctimony for the ages!
Bring back .Chiang Kai Chek (sp?)
40s, 50s gossip columnists going on and on about NYC ‘cafe society’
cain
@Kent:
That’s good because at least in their memory they had a good president while growing up. I remember Ford and Carter growing up, and seethed during Reagan.
trollhattan
@RedDirtGirl:
Kind of adorable, that. Have to remind myself Merkel is an Ostie and that has certainly formed her world view, and her steely antipathy to autocrats and neonazis.
Marcopolo
@Kay: I look at too many streams of info I’ve the course of a day to say exactly where I read this but at least one poll out in the past day or so had Trump’s approval dropping from 40 to 37. They then noted that the 37 figure is tied for his lowest approval since he became Prez.
Let’s hope this is a harbinger if things to come.
cain
@piratedan:
“Tis a silly place..” – King Arthur referring to Camelot. So true if replaced with White House :D
jl
@joel hanes: ” I’d guess that they were drinking straight bourbon from pocket flasks.”
Oh, I figured if they were hunting they would keep it something like coke with a little rum in it, like my uncle did :-o. But if they were really shooting farm birds on a canned range, maybe they didn’t consider it real hunting either, just like most of us here don’t. If your suspicions are correct, then evidence of consciousness of guilt…
Jay
NotMax
@Roger Moore
Goes to show how out of touch I am that today is the first time I’ve ever heard it.
@Steeplejack
A pencil mustache can sometimes make a world of difference. In the movies, Nick Charles would have been just an inebriated schlub who married for money without it. Which provides an excuse to link to the original trailer for The Thin Man.
;)
Aside: In the films, Boston Blackie was played by Chester Morris, an actor who it seemed single-handedly kept Brylcreem in business.
Steeplejack (phone)
@jl:
Marred only by “the dive was
leadled.”(This is the new rein/reign.)
Marcopolo
@Marcopolo: Okay, here is a link to the poll: cnbc.com/amp/2019/10/01/trumps-approval-rating-drops-to-new-low-but-most-still-oppose-impeachment-cn…
O. Felix Culpa
@rikyrah: That’s excellent news. Next step is to get them to the polls and make sure their votes are counted.
jl
@Steeplejack (phone): OK sure.. I meant ‘lead’ as in the metal (yeah, that’s the ticket)
Edit: is ‘yeah, that’s the ticket’ an oldster thing now too?
Kent
@cain: My HS daughter recently said:
“I really miss when our president and his family were actually cool”
Personally I miss the days when the most controversal thing our president did on the internet was release his March Madness bracket.
Amir Khalid
@NotMax: @NotMax:
For me, the bestest pencil moustache ever was Chuck Berry’s.
jl
@Kent: Current version can be used to introduce these dang kids these days to the old school Aristocrats joke. So, a small silver lining.
cain
@Kent:
Or show up wearing a tan suit.
AliceBlue
@Ladyraxterinok: I remember seeing bumper stickers–“Unleash Chiang Kai Chek!” Also “Get US out of the UN” and “Impeach Earl Warren”.
JPL
@Kent: We all do.
jl
@Marcopolo: I think good to remember that most people aren’t really paying attention to politics yet. Too soon for most, at least from my anecdotal experience. Will be interesting to see what happens when majority of population tunes in and catches up on details of the recent developments.
mrmoshpotato
@HumboldtBlue: That’s an insult to Boris Johnson.
P.S. Fuck Boris Johnson and the rest of these Brexiteers.
moops
rickrollling will become obscure enough soon that it is due for a nostalgic-ironic comeback
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
Some men can carry it off on screen, some cannot.
:)
Leto
@cain:
This is a big driver here. Even with people “cutting the cord”, they’re still not going to shell out $ for 10 different services. Every provider wants to jump in on “streaming” without realizing that they’re cutting their own throats. Netflix and Hulu proved people would pay for content, but not across so many platforms. This will drive an increase of pirating.
NotMax
Slightly bad linky. Fix.
@Amir Khalid
Some men can carry it off on screen, some cannot.
:)
Leto
@jl: Yes, yes it is. The last time Jon was seen was The Wedding Singer and The Goldberg’s, where they added The Wedding Singer into the story.
NotMax
@Leto
Consolidation and buying up of streaming services to put under one umbrella is bound to happen.
Betty Cracker
@RedDirtGirl: I love that! (Care packages borne on helium balloons). Okay, now I’ve got “99 Luftballoons” stuck in my head. Thanks, 80s!
Kelly
@jl: Do you think Obamacare will provide a significant contribution to economic stabilization? At least people in the Medicaid upgrade states may be able to stretch their savings and unemployment payments a bit further.
Roger Moore
@moops:
I wonder what’s going to happen to All Your Base Are Belong To Us.
misterpuff
Some things should stay in the past.
Bubba playing saxamaphone on talk shows.
Hillary’s First Lady “Stand By Her Man” haircut.
“Read My Lips”
Iran/Contra Most younguns only know Zombie Reagan, not” I was in a war movie once, so I’m a veteran” Reagan.
Nancy Reagan First Lady’s personal psychic
Cardigans as a sign of the apocalypse
Killer attack rabbits
SNL and Chevy Chase turn Gerald Ford into Proto-Homer Simpson. DOH!
The only club I’d like to belong to: Nixon’s Enemies List
I can keep going
OK one more The Warren Report
Ladyraxterinok
@NotMax: Love Thin Man movies. Never saw that trailer before. Really something!
NotMax
@Betty Cracker
Now am imagining a uniformed, beribboned, stern-faced chorus singing “The Internationale” after inhaling helium.
Ladyraxterinok
@NotMax: Brylcream , a little dab ‘ll do ya! Brylcresm, you’ll look so debonair!
From 40s radio ad —Arf, arf, that’s my dog Tighe. He lives in a shoe. I’m Buster Brown, I live in there too.
jl
@Kelly: I think recent developments in PPACA will be a minor drag on consumer spending that goes towards economic growth. Most of increase in record high money costs for consumers due to inherent instability in the original law, and various reactionary sabotage efforts are going into what is IMHO, effectively a private tax farming system the pulls money into already too wealthy parts of the economy.
Though big refunds will partly offset that. David Anderson had a couple of posts on those and I need to go look at them to refresh my memory.
Edit: but. yeah, Medicaid expansion in states that have it will help as automatic stabilizer New work rules in many places will not, and maybe destroy stabilization effect in those states.
Kent
@misterpuff:
“Where’s the Beef?”
“It’s Morning in America”
Anything with Dana Carvey or Emilio Estevez
Ketchup is a Vegetable
Nicaraguan “Freedom Fighters”
Madonna
Although I miss the Max Headroom Reagan and think our entertainment industry has dropped the ball by not generating the equivalent Trump version.
Mary G
Neither the teen housemate nor his girlfriend have ever heard a Beatles song.
Kay
Ha! Clinton got good tv ratings.
Ladyraxterinok
@AliceBlue: Big during JF k -Nixon debate Quemoy and Matsu
Referred to several times during debate Some islands Taiwan and Mainland China were fighting over
schrodingers_cat
@rikyrah: The kid is my hero. BTW I am still waiting for noble General Theranos to turn on T.
schrodingers_cat
@Mary G: I like the Beatles before their Indian mumbo jumbo and Ravi Shankar phase.
debbie
@rikyrah:
BOOM! (Hope for the future!)
oatler.
@Kent: Those things were always left out of John Hughes movies.
justawriter
I read the flashback comics at Doonesbury every morning. I’m sure most of them would have to be annotated for an audience under the age of 50. (the classic of the wall around the White House coming down after Nixon resigned ran a month or two ago)
Ladyraxterinok
@Betty Cracker: Found it cool teaching German to grade school kids that the song was also available on US radio in original German.
schrodingers_cat
BTW even after spending most of my life in the United States all the football metaphors sail over my head.
debbie
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
She’s been making up for keeping quiet, hasn’t she?
Ladyraxterinok
@Roger Moore: Is our children learning yet.
Kay
@Mary G:
When my youngest learned guitar and discovered older music on youtube he played the intro to Folsom Prison Blues, looked over at me and said “Johnny Cash”.
Thanks. Thanks for that INFO.
NotMax
@schrodingers_cat
True story.
Friend’s teenage sister was major early Beatlemaniac. They at that time lived in a gigantic house, with the third floor unused. She had drawn a mural dedicated to the band on the wall of one of the vacant rooms up there, the most striking part of which being what was scrawled in huge letters across the length of the room: THE BEETLES.
Patricia Kayden
@rikyrah: That’s all good but will they be able to vote given Republican voter suppression tactics that cost Stacey Abrams the governorship? The suppression was over the top.
Kelly
@jl: We tried to be generous to the people of the red states but the racists in charge wouldn’t take it.
leeleeFL
@rikyrah: That was DELICIOUS!
debbie
@jl:
Nothing about repos?
Kent
@NotMax:
My 13 year old daughter has gone through my giant stack of old LPs with a fine tooth comb and has set up my old turntable in her room. But mostly listens to old stuff on Spotify:
Her ranking of my old stuff?
1. Rolling Stones
2. Queen
3. Clash
4. Who
5. Beatles
6. Pretenders, Talking Heads, Ramones
Everything else? Meh…
I think she’s not wrong. Listing to all this stuff the 2nd time around in the car with her I gotta say the Rolling Stones have really aged the best.
Martin
@Leto:
Bottom line is that the studios and networks work off of a given amount of revenue – roughly $40/mo/household. They aren’t going to willingly go along with $12/mo just from Netflix. They’ll make up the other $28/mo from somewhere, withholding content from Netflix if necessary. So Netflix makes their own content and Disney say, ‘Oh, okay then. Here’s how we’re going to do this’ knowing full well they have the IP catalogue that Netflix can only dream of.
Bottom line is that they’re going to get their $40/mo equivalent, and we can bundle/unbundle in a million different ways and they’ll adapt as necessary. Individually you may come out with more or less content or more or less of what you want, but for a while, we’re all going to be jumping through a pile of new hoops until things settle out again.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@schrodingers_cat: That’s like literally TWO songs. Lots of great stuff throughout the brief career of The Beatles. The band, songwriting, and instrumentation kept evolving with the culture around them.
debbie
@germy:
Baby Boomers: Follow your bliss.
Gen X: Greed is good.
I’ll stick with the boomers, thanks.
Dan B
@HumboldtBlue: Quite the story on sea level rise in Maryland. I wonder if there is a similar disaster in eastern Virginia. As always it’s the odd bits of unexpected like the tombstones collapsing and disappearance of a wetland bird that make it clear we are not prepared.
Roger Moore
@Kent:
The Clash has aged very well, though some is that it’s meaningfully younger than the British Invasion stuff.
NotMax
@Kent
Seeing what the day of the week and the time of day (for most of us) is … an oldie.
zhena gogolia
@John Revolta:
I mean I asked the class 20 years ago, thinking the reference was still in the cultural memory. Maybe it was 30.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon:
A bit more than that, “Within You, Without You”, “Love to You”, “The Inner Light”, plus George used the sitar on a few others(“Norwegian Wood”).
(Listening to the 2019 mix of Abbey Road.)
Jay
Capri
This is what made me feel incredibly old. The other day a few of my students were talking about the Youtube videos they used to watch when they were little kids.
K488
@justawriter: Hell! Twisting slowly, slowly in the wind was a go-to expression I used frequently when I started teaching. Well, at least it was Point of order!
Kent
@Roger Moore:
I agree. The Clash have aged well and a lot of their old poltical stuff is amazingly relevant. My daughter likes “Washington Bullets” for example.
But for cruising around on a country road with your 13 year old, it’s pretty damn hard to beat the Rolling Stones for a soundtrack. Their music is just so sonically balanced.
Marcopolo
Edit—and Jay beat me to it :)
Apparently breaking news. (Am posting from my phone as I sit in a house having the ducts cleaned.)
While Pompeo sent a letter back to Congress refusing to comply with their subpoena it looks like several folks, including the former Ambassador, Envoy, & the State Dept IG are planning to cooperate.
twitter.com/rachaelmbade/status/1179145213559951362
J R in WV
@Kay:
You should tell him the primary had been move to the next Wednesday!! The only ethical thing to do, unless he changes his candidate choice…
Zinsky
Joel touched on it in Comment 44 but I remember an investigative journalist in Texas at the time (name escapes me) said that a Secret Service agent who was on the scene told him that Cheney was shit-faced drunk at the time. Of course, that was neatly handled by not reporting the shooting to local law enforcement until the next day when Cheney had a chance to sleep it off and pass the breathalyzer test. If you have seen the movie “Vice” you know this story is not implausible because Cheney was a heavy drinker and had two DUIs by age 25.
Betty Cracker
@Kent: Excellent taste!
Yutsano
@delk: To be fair, that one took me a second…
Jay
JoeyJoeJoe
@moops: maybe not, it’s done in a recent movie (won’t say which one). I do remember talking to a fellow congressional intern in early 2009 who had not heard the term. She also didn’t know who James Traficant was; disappointing for an intern. I once mentioned Chachi to my ex; she didn’t know who he was, and I said he was the Fonz’ nephew. She didn’t know the Fonz either.
Aside from that; I am reading Raymond Chandler short stories, and seeing the slang is interesting. Lastly, why’s everything a “meme” now? What exactly are these things?
mrmoshpotato
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
She’s earned every right in all of the universes to enjoy the downfall of this shitshow.
jl
@debbie: I only know what I read in the papers.
Here’s an interesting article with a financial economist guespeculating the mysterious problems in repo market have been due to problems in shadow banking system, which makes me uncomfortable if true. I don’t think anyone knows how much of the recent massive stock buy backs from rich person’s tax cut were financed with sliced and diced securities like during Great Recession financial crisis.
Shadow banks could be playing role in repo-market drama, economist says
marketwatch.com/story/shadow-banks-could-be-playing-role-in-repo-market-drama-economist-says-2019-09…
Leto
@NotMax: We had that. It was called… Netflix and Hulu.
@Martin:
Also the media companies aren’t dependent upon the subscription $ Netflix/hulu receive each month. They negotiate upfront contracts for content. What they’re hoping is that subscribers will want to purchase each of these services, a la carte, even though there’s already growing fatigue/frustration with this type of model. I’m sure we’re going to get subscription numbers similar to what Blizzard reports for WoW, even though they’re meaningless. And, again, piracy will go up over this.
Ruckus
@Redshift:
Zero here.
My wants rarely come close to true. I’ve learned not to hold my breath. But zero would be nice.
debbie
@jl:
I’m sure I know less about this than you, but I do know that banks buying back securities at a lower price than they sold them to the government the night before reeks of a scam on the taxpayers.
Litlebritdifrnt
Spent the day planning Mum’s funeral. Could have been a glum day but my sister insisted we did it while drinking wine and having her hubby drive us around. Very silly day in the end. Got to meet with the Vicar at the Church tomorrow but other than that it is planned and sorted Monday 14th at 12pm. If Sis has anything to do with it it will be a very boozy day.
Yutsano
@Betty Cracker: @Ladyraxterinok: Only the second song in a foreign language in full (sorry Nat!) to chart on US Radio.
Name the first.
(If we’re going old, let’s go all the way!)
J R in WV
@Amir Khalid:
And how shocking that the female athletes are the ones complaining?!! and NO pictures to illustrate the shocking problems with the new video equipped starting blocks…!!!
mrmoshpotato
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
No thanks. Two words: freedom fries.
Leto
@debbie: Lul, wut? The oldest Gen X’ers were 15 when the Reagan presidency of “greed is good” took off. I guess you can stick with those people driving that bus?
Here’s a good reference:
Baby Boomer: WHERE’D YOU LEARN GREED IS GOOD?!?!
Gen X’er: I LEARNED IT FROM YOU, DAD!
Baby Boomer: *slow dawn realization that he did*
/end commercial
Yutsano
@Litlebritdifrnt: Oh my goodness! I missed your mum passing away! My sincere condolences dear lady.
John Revolta
@zhena gogolia: Yeah, I figured that out back at #28.
PJ
@debbie: Uh, “Greed is good” was the boomer mantra for the 80’s (see Wall Street, where the phrase, coined by Oliver Stone (born 1946), is advocated by Michael Douglas (born 1944)), when the first Gen-Xers (born starting in 1964) were just leaving high school. Like locusts, the boomers had consumed everything on their way to becoming Reagan supporters, and left a wasteland behind.
debbie
@Leto:
I’m thinking of my brother who was born in 1965. That line from Wall Street was his mantra.
Elizabelle
@Litlebritdifrnt: My condolences on the loss of your mother. Your sister had a good idea with the wine and family time.
SiubhanDuinne
@Yutsano:
Edith Piaf “Milord”? Just a wild-ass guess, almost certainly wrong.
NotMax
@Yutsano
Volare
La Bamba
Sukiyaki
Dominique
Rock Me Amadeus
satby
@NotMax: Correction: Cary Grant could carry off anything ?
debbie
@Litlebritdifrnt:
Sorry about your mother. Celebrations are the best way to remember a life!
Yutsano
@NotMax: Did the Japanese version of Sukiyaki ever make it to the US?
And the answer is La Bamba way back in the 50s!
cain
@NotMax:
Errol Flynn pulled off that look nicely.
I have also seen many black males pull off the thin moustache well too.
HumboldtBlue
@Dan B:
I saw a headline yesterday that North America has lost more than 3 billion birds in the last 30 years, a sure sign of environmental collapse.
jl
@debbie: Fed Reserve is a party to only some repo transactions, and Fed can be on either end of the transactions, either sell on first day or buy on first day. It’s another way to change bank reserves when Fed is on one end of the transaction, and the market’s a very way to provide liquidity to different parts of financial system. But you need money flowing into and out of the market at expected times for the Fed operations in controlling reserves to work. That money has been sometimes been flowing out of the market when the Fed needs it to flow in.
Leto
@debbie: Ah. I’m from a decade later, but that theme was still going strong as the 2000 movie, “Boiler Room” proved. Conservative mantra is conservative mantra.
NotMax
@Yutsano
Sukiyaki was #1 for several weeks in 1963.
Both La Bamba and Volare (Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu) were in 1958, only the latter reaching the top spot that year (and winning the first “Song of the Year” Grammy).
MomSense
@Litlebritdifrnt:
I’m really sorry to hear about your mom, but I’m glad you and your sister are making this a real celebration and bonding experience for the two of you.
Kelly
@Litlebritdifrnt: I’ve put together 2 memorials and we all got silly a lot. Relieves stress and you have STORIES on anyone you loved enough to be organizing a memorial for.
satby
@Litlebritdifrnt: Condolences on the passing of your mother. May her memory be a blessing.
debbie
@Leto:
Sadly true.
Shana
@Redshift: We were 9 for Rosh Hashannah dinner at our place Sunday night, ranging in age from 29 to 65+. All Dems, most pretty knowledgable. I mentioned the crazification factor and only one other person (Hubby) knew what I was talking about.
JAFD
About ten years ago, had temp office job. One Friday afternoon, was waiting at copy machine, with lady of half my age who was dressed to maim – at least. Told her “You look snazzy today.” Which was bit of ’20’s slang for ‘well-dressed’ my parents had used when I was five and got all shirt buttons in proper holes, and when I was going to prom in tuxedo.
I guess, though, that the young lady had never heard the word before, and looked peturbed ? ready to storm the HR department.?
I said ‘Uh-oh’, went and looked it up in Urban Dictionary (meaning is same today), and spent weekend planning strategy if called on carpet. But nothing further came of it. Mayhaps she told an older relative, who got chuckle therefrom… ;-)
O. Felix Culpa
Dropping in to marvel at the two poor, poor sad powerful white man articles in today’s WaPo.
First, Kavanaugh [spit]: Brett Kavanaugh’s Washington: A smaller, colder world for a justice under a cloud
Second, Acting homeland security chief frustrated and isolated — even as he delivers what Trump wants at the border
They don’t make violins tiny enough.
cain
@Leto:
Yeah, i was like “whaaat?” Gen Xs – 1967 – 1983 or something like that. I was 16 when Reagan graced us as our President and even then I thought he was fucked up.
J R in WV
@Litlebritdifrnt:
OH, what a good way to deal with your loss… with any luck at all, you will barely remember the sadness for the fun you and your sister have had.
Best wishes.
My Mom died in Dad’s arms very early in the morning, like 5:30 or so… Since Dad worked nights and didn’t get home until 2 or 3 am most nights, this was quite abnormal. Then years later Dad died early on election day 2004, the day George W Dumbass was re-elected. I’m sure my brother voted for the ass…. But that’s in the long ago and done with.
zhena gogolia
@Jay:
lololol
trollhattan
@Kent:
Mine really loves The Kinks, among all the Brit invasion groups. Makes a dad proud.
tomtofa
@Elizabelle:
The heart attack, according to his doctors, was probably in part because of the shotgun pellets that entered his heart
Mai naem mobile
@SiubhanDuinne: I honestly remember seeing a blurb about somebody dying that mentioned the shooting. I wonder if it was whoever owned the ranch where the shooting happened.
MoxieM
@rikyrah: Yea-up. I had a post wedding drunken screaming match with a HS friend of my Ex’s about that in the middle of the night at the memorial… about 30 or 35 years ago… He was a speechwriter for Barbara Boxer (or became one). Total DC groupie. I was a snotty know it all grad student (but I did !! ;) ) . I said there was no point in worshipping Jefferson due to slavery — not sure if I knew yet about Sally Hemings and the family, but I dissed him pretty hard. Ex’s friend went off like a bottle rocket. Screaming ensued. fun times.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mai naem mobile:
I’m not sure whom you may have in mind, but the connections between the ranch ownership and Trumpies in high office are curious:
(My bolds.)