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Absolute morons Jacob “I’m Really Going to Commit a Big Boy Crime Any Day Now” Wohl and his unzipped co-conspirator Jack Burckman, fresh off failing to actually dox the Intelligence Community Whistleblower yesterday and today, have reverted to their usual modus operandi of creating sex scandals out of nothing. Having failed to actually bring down Special Counsel Mueller and Mayor Buttigieg with bogus allegations of sexual assault and impropriety have have announced their latest masterpiece. Behold:

The stupid, it burns!

The Warax asked the important question:

https://twitter.com/iAmTheWarax/status/1179541607781146626

It is important to remember that Jacob Wohl is the twenty-something aspiring career petty criminal who is currently facing actual real felony charges in California state court. He is also the son of one of the President’s key Jewish-American surrogates. I have been authorized on behalf of the Elders and our revered and venerated leader, the Supreme Babka, to apologize on behalf of the rest of the tribe. We are tremendously sorry about the Wohl mess.

And our own Food Goddess had the best take when I texted Burkman’s tweet too her:

If at 72 Elizabeth Warren is having a fling with a young Marine I say more power to her

Is everyone still enjoying this extra special Jewish New Year and Day’s of Awe Infrastructure Week?

Open thread!

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  1. 1.

    Kevin F

    “Shock the conscious of the nation” – Twice. It’s in there twice.

    Once is a typo. Twice means he thinks that’s really the saying.

    Unbelievable morons.

  2. 2.

    TaMara (HFG)

    Wait? Our texts aren’t kept on a classified server? I disavow any knowledge of bribing Cole to allow me to be a Front Pager and I DO NOT have naked mopping pictures of him.

  3. 3.

    Gin & Tonic

    “Shock the conscious of the nation”?? Not once, but twice? I know he’s a moron, but illiterate, too?

  5. 5.

    PhoenixRising

    If Liz Warren is capable of being a competent & effective US Senator while staffing a well-funded campaign for the Dem nomination while getting nailed by a ripped 24 year old ‘long term’…I’m maxing out for her. Because that person can manage her damn time.

  13. 13.

    lamh36

    @MSNBC
    2m2 minutes ago
    More
    BREAKING: Rudy Giuliani says in CNN interview that he was the person who sent a mysterious package full of documents to Secretary of State Pompeo. The State Dept. Inspector General passed them on to Congress Wednesday, and Rep.Jamie Raskin described the contents as “propaganda.”

    twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1179582020726530048

  15. 15.

    billcinsd

    Wouldn’t this leave her at least 3 and probably more like 20 affairs behind the President

  17. 17.

    jl

    Did Warren, who is a spry 70 not 72, pay them to do this? Now, that would be a scandal. I hope she just had the affair, and didn’t pay for the reveal, since that would be the kind of corruption she is crusading against.

    But… naw… Warren would have gotten better people to announce it.

  18. 18.

    RSA

    They’re putting up a decorated Marine who got out at 24 years old… I’m thinking these guys understand military culture even less than I do, and I work for the military.

  20. 20.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Kelly: I’m pretty sure Boris couldn’t connect the dots with a Native American tracker, a Sherpa guide, a US Army Ranger, a US Army Scout, a US Marine Corps Recon Marine, a GPS, a scratch map, a flashlight, and both hands.

  21. 21.

    zhena gogolia

    @PhoenixRising:

    THIS IS THE BEST THING I’VE HEARD ABOUT ELIZABETH WARREN. If it’s true, I will be making my first contribution to her campaign fund.

  22. 22.

    Amir Khalid

    Well, Tamara’s absolutely right. If Elizabeth Warren has the energy for a 24-year-old ex-Marine bodybuilder boyfriend, she certainly has the energy for the presidency.

    Also, too: “the conscious of the nation”? Eyeroll.

  25. 25.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Adam L Silverman: Jacob Wohl’s longest relationship was not quite a whole semester, so… perspective

    I think I remember Jack Burkman from Bill Maher’s old ABC show, along with a couple of obnoxious blondes who were supposed to be different kinds of Republicans because they wore mini-skirts, one sneered a lot, Laura something, one giggled a lot, but was probably nastier than the sneering one, Kelly Something, maybe Kellyanne…. And another young woman with faraway eyes who may or may not have been a witch

  28. 28.

    divF

    @jl: I’d like to think they confronted her with this, and she begged them not to go public with it, with the forseen (and desired) result.

    Idiots.

  30. 30.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    I’m calling it right now. This “marine” is probably some stolen valor fake

  32. 32.

    Amir Khalid

    @divF:
    Upon further consideration, he may have been distinguishing “the conscious of the nation” from the unconscious, who would of course not be paying attention anyway.

  34. 34.

    dmsilev

    @Immanentize: One of the most hilarious Internet flame wars I ever read was in the comments of the NYT’s cooking section when they posted a chocolate babke recipe.

    Mac vs PC had nothing on it.

    Good recipe though, albeit a lot of work.

  37. 37.

    Mary G

    Republican efforts to distract from the impeachment have been very lame. I kind of want Liz Warren to show up to their press conference and have her golden retriever love bomb them

  38. 38.

    SFAW

    our revered and venerated leader, the Supreme Babka

    I’d be more impressed if it were Baba Yaga, and if one of the legs holding up her hut kicked Wohl and Burkman in the cojones. Repeatedly.

  43. 43.

    Immanentize

    @dmsilev: that’s hilarious! The Chocolate Babka sold at the one true Jewish bakery in South Beach in the early 80’s was one true Babka I would follow anywhere.

  45. 45.

    SFAW

    @Amir Khalid:

    If Elizabeth Warren has the energy for a 24-year-old ex-Marine bodybuilder boyfriend, she certainly has the energy for the presidency.

    Or she would, if her political instincts weren’t so terrible.

    Oh, wait, worng thread. Sorry!

  48. 48.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    water finds its own level, my old man used to say

    In his quest to rewrite the history of the 2016 election, President Trump’s personal attorney has turned to an unusual source of information: Trump’s imprisoned former campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
    Rudolph W. Giuliani in recent months has consulted several times with Manafort through the federal prisoner’s lawyer in pursuit of information about a disputed ledger that would bolster his theory that the real story of 2016 is not Russian interference to elect Trump, but Ukrainian efforts to support Hillary Clinton.

    Rudi learned how to get in touch with prisoners when he was negotiating Bernie Kerik’s post-incarceration Fox News contract

  50. 50.

    Jay

    Atomwaffen Division, an armed neo-nazi group with an existing murder count and connections with planned acts of domestic terrorism, has released a new video indicating a plea for action and escalation.t.co/WN6IcMZXBt— Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club (@PugetSoundJBGC) October 2, 2019

    Heads up.

  52. 52.

    sigaba

    “Former” Marine kinda vaguely implies he was tossed out or has a DD or something else unsavory. Marines are like Eagle Scouts, you’re always one ceteris paribus.

  55. 55.

    divF

    @Adam L Silverman: I get the occasional nibble when I go out with a friend to a local deli to treat him to kippers and eggs, babka on the side (prefers chocolate, will settle for poppy seed).

  62. 62.

    SFAW

    @sigaba:

    “Former” Marine kinda vaguely implies he was tossed out or has a DD or something else unsavory. Marines are like Eagle Scouts, you’re always one ceteris paribus

    It would not amaze me to hear that the former “Marine” said something like “When I was a soldier …”

  64. 64.

    jl

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Thanks for info. I was out and about attending to my affairs and when I got back to the news, seems like a bunch of weird bombshells came out that I didn’t understand. Your link explains the fuss over Giuliani’s latest gift.

    I guess the other thing is that the IG went to Congress to report that Pompeo is harassing his employees at Dept of State to keep them from testifying. And there was another, but I forget now. And it’s only Wednesday.

    Those Trumpsters need to pay attention to Warren to learn how to get better free media. I hope that Marine is handsome hunk.
    Silverman’s still in Florida, right?

  73. 73.

    Gin & Tonic

    @jl:

    I was out and about attending to my affairs

    At least you weren’t attending to Elizabeth Warren’s affairs.

  76. 76.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    Breaking News!

    Jacob Wohl, Jack Burkman, and the anonymous Marine convened a press conference on Wohl’s driveway. The marine had this to say in response to a blog post at Adam L Silverman’s blog, Balloon Juice:

    “What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Marine Corps, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.”

    Based on the infamous navy seal copypasta. I think you’re in trouble Adam //

  78. 78.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @jl: And some of the materials were on White House stationary/letterhead. So either Rudy used official US government indicia formatted materials or he fabricated the US government indicia formatted materials to put his conspiracy theory crap on before sending it to Pompeo at State. Both of those are crimes.

  80. 80.

    jl

    Oh, yeah, apparently Trump called pretty much every head of state to ask for dirt on Bidens and/or Mueller.investigation. I want to hear the call to Jersey.

    ‘Hi, is this is Jersey, the old one, not the new one, right? You’re a country, right? You the minister, is that a prime minister, or… OK says here Chief on the paper.. OK, Chief, I’m President Trump, but you can call me Sir. That’s a nice little country you got there and we’ve done a lot for you but you haven’t been so nice to us. You seen any US Deep State scandal servers around there? Black, bigger than a breadbox, a suitcase kind of thing.? So, I gotta a favor to ask…”

    Edit: need a BJ blog contest on what countries Trump didn’t call.

  85. 85.

    hells littlest angel

    Is there video of Elizabeth Warren saying, “If you’re a star you can do anything. Grab ’em by the cock.”?

  86. 86.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Immanentize: I can’t eat it even if you were to send it to me. My body doesn’t handle refined carbohydrates, including refined sugar, well. I get an immediate hysteminic/allergic response followed by other unpleasantness. So I eat very little of that stuff. And then, I usually pay for cheating. On the other hand, I’ve just order new jeans again as I’ve lost about 5 inches of my waist since 2015 when I decided to clean up my diet in order to avoid the unpleasant side effects.

  87. 87.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Adam L Silverman: he seems to have admitted to making it up, which conjures some very odd images of Rudi shopping in a craft store.You’d think Rudi at the Michael’s service desk asking “Where are your gold pens and calligraphy guides?” would rate a Page Six item

    Josh Rogin @ joshrogin
    By the way, Rudy is admitting to manufacturing White House logos and sticking them on non-White House documents and pushing the real government to act on them.

  90. 90.

    Jay

    Bigly holes in the wacky conspiracy theory that Australia, Italy & UK all made stuff up to start the Mueller probe:-34 individuals & 3 companies indicted-8 pled guilty or convicted-The actual finding that Russia engaged in a "sweeping and systematic attack" on our elections t.co/GI56O3X94p— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) October 2, 2019

  92. 92.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @jl:

    Kaitlan Collins @ kaitlancollins
    New: Trump was always deeply suspicious of Theresa May & Malcolm Turnbull — blaming them, in part, for the beginning of the Russia probe. When their successors took office, he saw a political opening, not a diplomatic one. ⁦⁦W

  93. 93.

    Immanentize

    @Adam L Silverman: Adam, I salute you. That is hard work — and I am trying to follow that example, but stress eating is always upturning my virtue eating….

    Good on you

    But a good Babka is still a really fine thing.

  99. 99.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Rogin’s tweet isn’t well worried. He’s basically saying that by Giuliani copping to having sent the material to Pompeo, and that some of the materials were on stationary/letterhead with official White House indicia, that Giuliani is also admitting to forging those. Basically he’s saying the same thing I am.

  102. 102.

    Immanentize

    I just want to again say before I go to meet the insides of my eyelids. I really love this blog.

    Domani.

  104. 104.

    Amir Khalid

    Let me just say, this is one of the silliest, and best, comment threads I’ve seen in my time as a jackal.

  108. 108.

    Mike in DC

    25% tariff imposed by Trump on single malt scotch, French wine and Italian cheese. Stop, bro, no need to oversell us on impeachment.

  115. 115.

    Viva BrisVegas

    I presume Wohl is OK with Trump, the part-time married human lard bag made of orange leatherette, having sex with 20-something porn stars and paying them off afterwards.

    It’s not like it’s sleazy or anything.

  116. 116.

    West of the Rockies

    Isn’t this sort of thing, I don’t know… Illegal?

    Also, was today’s super urgent IG meeting with some members of Congress a bit less astounding than maybe we were led to think it would be, or am I missing something?

  117. 117.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    so…. for some reason someone asked Bob Woodward to host a discussion of the MeToo movement and the new Jodi Kantor/Meghan Twoyey book, and the Norma Desmond of the Beltway punditry was not ready for the close-up

    Robyn Swirling @ RSwirling
    Next, realBobWoodward, who had < 1 hour to ask *any* question he could possibly want about how these two impressive af reporters built this story and started the press side of the #metoo movement, asked "did you find any women who made up allegations? That's very important."

    Even though the audience was booing his answers, heckling him, telling him to move on, that the abuser’s motivations are less important than the victim’s experiences, realBobWoodward said he believed Weinstein’s behavior to be “a weird foreplay.”

    Then Woodward turned his questions to Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. He asked Kantor and Twohey skeptically if they believed her.
    ealBobWoodward wanted to know why they would believe Dr. Ford, despite lacking a precise memory of the date, time, or location of when she was assaulted by Kavanaugh.
    Woodward pressed jodikantor & mega2e on whether they would have deemed Dr. Ford’s story, despite it’s “imprecision,” credible enough to public

    There’s more in this thread.

  119. 119.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @Amir Khalid:

    I read about bonobos in my freshman year of college. Pretty interesting creatures. I believe it was Frans de Waal’s Our Inner Ape. Basically, bonobos and humans are the most alike among primates and yet bobobos also offer insight into how humans could be better

    I liked that de Waal tends to emphasize that many of the qualities we ascribe to ourselves (morality, empathy) can be found in animals. That morality is partially a result of evolution

  121. 121.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    When their successors took office, he saw a political opening, not a diplomatic one.

    The ex-PM of Australia was replaced by a far right evangelical liar and propagandist called Scott Morrison. As part of his political image he nicknamed himself “Scomo”. Which tells you a lot about the kind of people who give themselves nicknames.

    Anyway, he is an all in Trumpist. The only thing holding him back from surrendering our country’s integrity to Trump is the fact that Trump is deeply unpopular with everyone but the lunar right. Murdoch is working on that problem.

  124. 124.

    Ken

    @West of the Rockies: In any other administration, the news that one of the President’s top advisors and lawyers was forging White House documents to push a lunatic conspiracy theory would be incredibly astounding. For this administration, it’s Wednesday.

  125. 125.

    joel hanes

    @Amir Khalid:

    I was there in the 1960s. Free love seems to work out a lot better for bonobos.
    Very few actual humans seem to be emotionally set up for it.

    I once took a seminar from Will Schutz, who was a big part of Esalen, and he said that most of the people who tried the “free love” thing eventually found it emotionally intolerable.

  127. 127.

    Jay

    Some asylum seekers who have given birth in custody were forced to hand over their newborns to the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services. We were unable to verify what happens to the children of women who do not have access to legal help. t.co/3BcZF7pKYb— Rewire.News (@Rewire_News) October 1, 2019

  128. 128.

    ByRookorbyCrook

    @joel hanes:

    Holding out for Ningauble of the Seven Eyes, or Sheelba of the Eyeless Face

    Somehow Lankhmar seems less corrupt than the Orangymandias Administration.

  133. 133.

    cain

    @Adam L Silverman:

    @TaMara (HFG): This is all because Cole is too cheap to spring for a secure slack channel for us!

    Please.. let’s not do proprietary software.. have you tried Rocket Chat or Mattermost?

  134. 134.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Amir Khalid: I’m amazed Judith Nathan hasn’t had her divorce lawyer go into court, have him declared non compus mentus and placed in custodial care, and have her awarded power of attorney. She gets access to all his money and he’s out of her hair in a way he wouldn’t be through the normal divorce proceedings, which he is dragging out.

  135. 135.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @Jay:
    Yeah. As it turns out, a lot of the hippies and the left was fairly misogynistic back then. Probably racist too.

    There was a prominent hippie who later became a stock broker and had became a Nixon fan in the early 70s. His name escapes me atm

  136. 136.

    psycholinguist

    One of the congressmen showed some printouts of the Rudy dossier. I was all kinds of fonts, weird internet formatting, etc. It looked pretty much identical to what that bottom 10% of my freshmen hand in as “sources” when I assign them their first research paper and they go scrounging around on google and print out the first 5 sources they find and throw them together in a folder and hand it in 3 days late. I am just flabbergasted. Can you not at least write them up in a coherent narrative with some kind of consistent appearance you idiot? Why did he need to travel the world, all he was doing was going to 4chan and following the conspiracy links. How was anybody taking this shit seriously? the only possible explanation is that Trump is a true believer (he wouldn’t have read it, only half listened to Rudy’s summaries) and sent this over with orders to track down every lead and get to the TRUTH,

  137. 137.

    Calouste

    Everything’s projection with these people, so who will pop in the news in a few days with an affair? Pence?

  139. 139.

    Adam L Silverman

    @West of the Rockies: It was, except for one important bit of information. Which is that it appears that Pompeo pulled Yovanovitch as ambassador to Ukraine based on Rudy’s bullshit conspiracy theory material.

  141. 141.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @joel hanes:
    Shit maybe I’m misremembering. I read it like 5 years ago. Perhaps it’s more accurate to say that chimps and bonobos represent different sides of human nature. That humans are somewhere in between the two. Though, bonobos can pretty violent themselves

  142. 142.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Carol Leonnig, uber-serious political reporter, predicts trump will rage-tweet tomorrow. She says she hopes it doesn’t “include the word BS” (that’s how she said it). I don’t think she was kidding. This fuckign country.

  144. 144.

    lamh36

    Da fuqn nerve of Dallas PD!

    Botham Jean’s brother’s request to hug Amber Guyger and Judge Kemp’s gift of her bible to Amber represent a spirit of forgiveness, faith and trust. In this same spirit, we want to move forward in a positive direction with the community. @ChiefHallDPD

    Course they mention his brother and the judge, but didn’t mention the clip of Botham’s mother calling their asses out for the fuq’ry that aided in the death of her son

  145. 145.

    Jay

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:

    In the late ‘70’s, spent some time in one of the last “Free Love” Communes in NorCal. I was hitchiking, guy gave me a ride, asked me if I wanted to crash. The Commune was 90% women.

    I think the Guy just wanted help splitting wood and hauling water.

    The Women were wonderful. Elizebeth Warren energy, wisdom, emotion to what was a young, dumb guy at the time.

  146. 146.

    Ken

    @Adam L Silverman: I’m surprised Trump’s children haven’t done the same to him. I suspect it would have happened by now had he lost the election.

    Hmm, if they did that, would Trump have to step down? It doesn’t fit the triggers of the 25th.

  150. 150.

    cain

    @lamh36:
    I really like that guy. He is all in with no fucks to give and speaks from the heart at all times. I think he’s realized that is what he does best. I don’t konw how that will work as president, but I enjoy it all the the same.

    BTW fuck Trump, he is putting tariffs on scotch and whiskey from scotland and ireland..

  151. 151.

    Jay

    still seems kind of crazy that “conservative gerrymandering guru worked with state republican parties across the country to racially gerrymander democrats out of power” isn’t a bigger story t.co/aoOzjaLzwv— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) October 1, 2019

  153. 153.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Donnie Jr sends up the bat signal

    Donald Trump Jr. @ DonaldJTrumpJr
    And for those who don’t know who Adam Schiff is, he is not just a radical liberal, he is someone who has been hand-picked and supported by George Soros.

    his girlfriend must’ve told him not to use dollar signs when he typed Soros

  154. 154.

    Adam L Silverman

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: The important thing you need to know is there are only 4 differences/changes in the DNA of humans and our closest primate relatives the pygmy chimpanzee. And that these four changes, which are in the pygmy chimpanzee’s DNA, evolved after humans evolved. Basically nature determined that humans were a mistake and made an evolutionary adjustment to go back to the trees. Apparently humans have never gotten the memo, but we’re a blip.

  155. 155.

    cain

    @lamh36:

    Course they mention his brother and the judge, but didn’t mention the clip of Botham’s mother calling their asses out for the fuq’ry that aided in the death of her son

    Is there anything more magnificent than a black woman when they in defense mode?

  158. 158.

    mrmoshpotato

    Dragged up from “Impeach Them All”: But will Jacob and Jack just flat out be in their boxer shorts this time. Gotta outdo the fly-down “press conference.”

    And “Conservative activists”? Hahahha, they misspelled “hacks” badly.

  159. 159.

    cain

    @Adam L Silverman:

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: The important thing you need to know is there are only 4 differences/changes in the DNA of humans and our closest primate relatives the pygmy chimpanzee. And that these four changes, which are in the pygmy chimpanzee’s DNA, evolved after humans evolved. Basically nature determined that humans were a mistake and made an evolutionary adjustment to go back to the trees. Apparently humans have never gotten the memo, but we’re a blip.

    Can’t wait till they are ascendant and take over for us. Hopefully there is something left after we don’t survive global warming and or nuclear winter.

  160. 160.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Ken: I’m amazed someone in Florida hasn’t tried to have him Baker Acted when he’s in Florida at Mar a Lago. The Baker Act is Florida’s statute that allows for a complaint to be made about the mental state of an individual, which then requires that law enforcement takes the individual in question into custody where they’re placed on a 72 hour evaluatory hold. At the end of that 72 hours they are either released if determined to be mentally sound or they are remanded into custodial care if they are not.

  165. 165.

    Adam L Silverman

    @cain: I’ve actually been told by one front pager, in an email, that the front pagers shouldn’t be communicating by email or other means where the readers and commenters can’t see what we’re talking about. Usually it is about trying to fix a problem on the site or asking someone to cover a post or trying to find a commenter to make sure they’re okay.

  166. 166.

    Jay

    This year marks the centennial of the Elaine Massacre in which *at least* a hundred black people were murdered by a white Arkansas mob. It’s one of the lesser discussed atrocities of the era. This NYRB piece covers it well: t.co/KzOBh3oztv— jelani cobb (@jelani9) September 30, 2019

  170. 170.

    joel hanes

    @Jay:

    Lawyers Guns and Money had a front-page post about the Elaine massacre just today.
    I never knew about it before.

  171. 171.

    cain

    @Adam L Silverman:

    @cain: I’ve actually been told by one front pager, in an email, that the front pagers shouldn’t be communicating by email or other means where the readers and commenters can’t see what we’re talking about. Usually it is about trying to fix a problem on the site or asking someone to cover a post or trying to find a commenter to make sure they’re okay.

    Bah.. ridiculous. Fraternizing is just fine, IMHO. You are definitely the social type unlike our very unsocial blog host who won’t mix with the commentariat on here :)

  173. 173.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    in which I return to the topic to quote Tbogg

    TBogg @ tbogg
    Finally we will get to thank Marine Todd for his service to the country and for servicing Elizabeth Warren

    wish I’d thought of that

    I actually have an aunt who sent around the Marine Todd story, and similar. Somehow she leaves me off those emails even though we never discuss politics. I must give off a vibe.

  175. 175.

    jl

    @Adam L Silverman: What, you can’t trust decorated former U.S. Marine body builders anymore? What is the country coming to?

    Even on the very remote,almost zero, chance this story just might not be completely accurate, enough people will believe it to put any age issue for Warren to bed… to rest… I mean.

  176. 176.

    SFAW

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:

    blah blah blah …But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.”

    See, to really make it super-believable, you shoulda had him close with “Have a nice day!”

  183. 183.

    HumboldtBlue

    If at 72 Elizabeth Warren is having a fling with a young Marine I say more power to her

    Guarantee she’s got a plan for that.

  185. 185.

    NotMax

    @cain

    From then, something that made the rounds:

    Q: Why don’t senators use bookmarks?
    A: They prefer their pages bent over.

  186. 186.

    jl

    @cain: Sad to think this was the best smear these two jokers could come up with shows how retro they are and dumb.

    To damage Warren, rather than maybe help her, they should have come with a money or influence corruption story. Either they were too stupid or sexist to understand that, or someone pointed out to them that making charges like that might bring more serious consequences than ridicule. Wohl is already in trouble with the law for one of these dishonest stunts, right? They’re just goofy losers.

  188. 188.

    cain

    @NotMax:

    Q: Why don’t senators use bookmarks?
    A: They prefer their pages bent over.

    Haha! Man, those were the days.. it wasn’t even normal sex scandals.. just men on boys sex scandals and it seemed to happen so often. Shit.. what a bunch of wankers.

  189. 189.

    Kattails

    @Adam L Silverman: Bernard Clayton’s has a recipe for Babka (Grandmother’s Loaf)that has cardamom, 2 eggs plus 2 yolks, a stick of butter, homemade almond paste, a cup of bittersweet chocolate, a cup of raisins plumped in brandy, a cup of slivered almonds, and is topped with poppy seeds. two loaves. I’ve made it. I want to meet his grandmother.

  191. 191.

    jl

    @Cacti: But wait, Manafort has a lot of inside info that hasn’t come out yet!
    I’ll bet even money we’ll here some GOPer say that on a news talky soon.

  193. 193.

    cain

    @jl:
    I never understand how these provocateurs get away with staying out of jails even though they have committed felonies? It’s like our system of governance refuse to give these people a harsh sentence. Do a couple of them and assholes like them will turn into whiny bitches and will learn fast what it will like to live in the general population.

  195. 195.

    Cacti

    @jl:

    Tomorrow on Fox News:

    It’s completely normal for a sitting President to consult a convicted felon and known Kremlin asset! The Constitution requires it!

  197. 197.

    cain

    I hate the fact that despite all this brain trust we still get punked by a bunch low life, low intelligence, poor hygiene low lifes who apparently seem to garner a lot of sympathy during sentencing. grr.. meanwhile, black folks who show incredible amount of nobility get fucked over.

  198. 198.

    Adam L Silverman

    @cain: I tend to write very technical posts which are partially based on professional experience. If I just abandon the post after I hit publish, I’m not doing you all any benefit by not being around to answer questions. Also, because I’m primarily doing consulting, and have been, and not on a full time equivalent line, I have the time to do it as I work from home. So I can work and reply at the same time.

    I would really, really, really like to get back on a full time equivalent line!

  199. 199.

    jonas

    So…according to this numbnuts, the idea that Elizabeth Warren has been schtupping a Marine bodybuilder is supposed to be some career-ending scandal? Shit, that should rocket her right to the top of the ticket. Especially if it emerges that the safe word was “wealth tax”.

  200. 200.

    mrmoshpotato

    @cain: I take it you prefer tighty whities. ?

    It was my first thought when asking myself, “How will these idiots outdo their fly-down hack job on Mueller?”

  202. 202.

    cain

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I would really, really, really like to get back on a full time equivalent line!

    I hear you. I’m unemployed.. and have been since early May. I’d love to be back on full time. I spend my time working on start ups, and non-profits and posting on here.

  203. 203.

    Adam L Silverman

    @SFAW: Actually every Marine I know, and I know a lot of them, end every email and letter with S/F for Semper Fi.

  204. 204.

    cain

    @mrmoshpotato:

    @cain: I take it you prefer tighty whities. ?

    I’m a boxer-brief kind of guy :) I just object to knowing anything below the waist with those assholes :D

  207. 207.

    Adam L Silverman

    @West of the Rockies: That would be the young Master Wohl. Who thinks he is the Deity’s gift to everyone, especially the ladies. He went to the same surgeon that Sarah Huckabee Sanders did for the facial work. That surgeon is a major fan of Picasso.

  208. 208.

    joel hanes

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I believe you’ve misremembered, and conflated percentage differences estimated from DNA hybridization experiments with a count of gene/allele differences.

    sciencemag.org/news/2012/06/bonobos-join-chimps-closest-human-relatives

    Bonobos and humans share about 99.6% of their base-pair sequence
    The human genome is estimated to have about 25,000 “genes”, expressed in about 3 billion base-pairs.
    0.4% of 25,000 genes would be 100 genes.
    0.4% of 3 billion base-pairs would be 12 million base-pair mismatches.

    Perhaps more crucially for speciation, orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, and bonobos have 24 chromosome pairs, humans and our closest extinct ancestors (Neanderthals and Denisovans) have 23.

  210. 210.

    Adam L Silverman

    @jonas:

    that should rocket her right to the top of the ticket.

    Only if the Marine is assigned to Space Force.

  212. 212.

    jl

    @Mnemosyne: ” removed the watermark”? I think that kind of trade craft is above them.

    Can they really get away with another no show witness? i think they already did that once. Even for them, that would be stretch.
    So if they get some dope up there, will he say Warren’s sinister sultry wiles, her wholesome cheerful Oklahoma enthusiasm, and her socialist wealth tax policy, seduced innocent little him? He’ll have to be the victim. A combat decorated U.S. former Marine body builder is the victim because he had an affair? Ho-kay.

    They should have gone with a lie about money. But they are dense and denser.

    Which reminds me, fourth thing today, apparently came out that Pence was up to his eyeballs in the Ukraine mess, except for some reason, his people say, he didn’t notice or didn’t quite understand what was gong on? Four things hit while I was out this afternoon. Edit: We already knew he was the designated bag man for monitor compliance and collect official Ukrainian work product. But apparently he was read in on every damn detail of it. Why would anyone let someone like Pence in on the whole scheme? Seems weird, or stupid.

  215. 215.

    joel hanes

    @joel hanes:

    estimated from DNA hybridization experiments with a count of gene/allele differences.

    Ah, showing my age here.

    Of course, in today’s modern world of The Future, we have actual sequences of the full genome of these species, so no one has needed to use DNA hybridization for these estimates for a couple decades.
    I regret the error.

  217. 217.

    Mike in DC

    @Jay: Their boomer will be followed around by hunter-killer subs for the full duration of its existence. Japan, South Korea and America will rotate shifts.

  218. 218.

    joel hanes

    @jl:

    Pence was up to his eyeballs in the Ukraine mess

    Manafort was working for the corrupt pre-Zelensky government of the Ukraine (but not honestly: he didn’t register as their agent with the US government)

    Manafort was working for Trump. Without a fee, IIRC.
    Manafort was the one who wanted Pence for VP.
    Manafort is the one who has decided he prefers prison to cooperation, and I think it’s because if he tells what he knows, he’ll have an “accident” — shortly after his family also has an “accident”.

  219. 219.

    jl

    @joel hanes: ” Perhaps more crucially for speciation, orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, and bonobos have 24 chromosome pairs, humans and our closest extinct ancestors (Neanderthals and Denisovans) have 23″

    Devolution! I’m horrified. I for one welcome our new great ape overlords.

  221. 221.

    jl

    @joel hanes: Well, OK then. Good thing Giuliani got a lot of the scoops blowing the Biden Ukraine scandal wide open from Manafort. Manafort has a lot of inside info.

  222. 222.

    SFAW

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Actually every Marine I know, and I know a lot of them, end every email and letter with S/F for Semper Fi.

    Umm … that’s not the point I was trying to make.

    “I’m going to rip your head off and shit down your neck. I’m going to kick your ass into next week. I’ll hit you so hard I’ll kill your whole fucking family. I’m going to bring the pain so hard, you’ll wish you had died retroactively.” and so on, concluding with “Have a nice day!” (followed by a smile emoji)

  223. 223.

    Jay

    @Mike in DC:

    Their boomer doesn’t have to leave NORK ports to hit Japan or Oakinawa with a nuke.

    Dolt 45 has given the NORKs a free hand, because of some “beautiful letters” that probably have “Sir” in them.

  227. 227.

    joel hanes

    @jl:

    Devolution!

    Do a first approximation, most of the physiological differences between humans and the other apes are “neoteny” : human adults physically resemble the infants of the other species. Large rounded smooth skull, small jaws and reduced dentition, small nose and ears, large eyes, shorter and finer body hair. Our young also take much longer to reach physiological adulthood. So in a way, we’re an ape species that never really grows up.

    Other differences are really curious-making. Concealed ovulation, f’rinstance.

    Recently, it’s looking as if menopause and the relatively long human lifespan are related: giving birth is dangerous, but infants with living grandmothers tend to leave more descendants that those without.

  228. 228.

    jl

    @joel hanes: What happened to the p * n * s bone? That would come in handy for a lot of guys.

    Devolution. QED. I win. Sorry

    Edit: but, thanks for the info.

  229. 229.

    joel hanes

    @Jay:

    Dolt 45 has given the NORKs a free hand

    Just a reminder here that under the “framework” agreement hammered out under Clinton, major NK nuclear development facilities were sealed, and those seals monitored.

    All that went by the board when W stupidly named North Korea as a member of the “axis of evil.”

  233. 233.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Amir Khalid:

    Let me just say, this is one of the silliest, and best, comment threads I’ve seen in my time as a jackal.

    Agreed! And I’m only halfway through.

  236. 236.

    Sebastian

    @jl:

    Haha I saw some of the commentariat get hot under the collar, yes.

    But I meant Trump. Just saw the press conference and it was delicious.

  238. 238.

    Matt Smith

    If Elizabeth Warren hopes to beat Trump at his own game, it’s gonna take more than a single ex-Marine bodybuilder scandal. She’ll need a number of tawdry sex scandals, sexual assault and harassment allegations, and it would help if she started creepily objectifying her own kids. She’s got her work cut out for her!

  239. 239.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jay:

    Some asylum seekers who have given birth in custody were forced to hand over their newborns to the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services.

    As Cole has said, American Nuremberg Trials.

    Can they get worse? Question answered.

  241. 241.

    Mart

    Being reminded about “the ultra liberal” Bill Maher below: he sure has leashed a lot of pain on his fans by normalizing Coulter, Conway, ingraham, and the other witch on us. Is he on Putin’s payroll too?

  243. 243.

    Dave Empey

    @jl: Apropos of nothing in particular, the current betting is that we used to have 24 pairs like all the other apes but two of ours got fused together to make the human chromosome called number 2.

  251. 251.

    Jay

    Whoever said laughter is the best medicine never met The Joker!LEGAL DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A SPONSORED TWEET. TWITTER ACCOUNT “PIXELATEDBOAT” RECEIVED PAYMENT FROM WARNER BROS. ENTERTAINMENT IN THE FORM OF ONE (1) VINTAGE MCDONALD’S BATMAN FOREVER TWO FACE MUG (VALUE 17 CENTS)— pixelatedboat aka “mr tweets” (@pixelatedboat) September 29, 2019

  255. 255.

    mrmoshpotato

    @cain: Jeezus you are old. Stan Laurel?

    Don’t make me summon Buster and Fatty to drop a house on you.

  260. 260.

    Jay

    In the United States, with historic traditions of compromise and conflict resolution, lethal violence and military-style weapons are also spreading. Recently, governments from Japan to Uruguay have warned their citizens to take precautions if they travel to America. One of them bluntly described it as a “gun society.”

    I still cherish America, the home of Lincoln and Steinbeck, Copland and King, whose charter enshrines the rights to question authority and pursue happiness. I am still prepared to defend its ideals and institutions. But I am unsure I will know how to navigate what it has become in my absence — how to find the right balance between caution and connection.

    In Afghanistan, I know who the enemy is and how to protect myself, ducking inside shops and keeping away from military convoys. When I return to America, though, I fear I will be entering a strange landscape without a compass. I listen to today’s political rhetoric, thick with contempt and belligerence, and it sounds like an alien language.

    google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/after-years-in-afghanistan-im-going-home-to-an-americ…

  261. 261.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jay: $1500/year in get-drunk-as-fuck money after all expenses are paid? OK!

    ETA – WTF this isn’t a new bullshit article. I saw this crap at least a year ago.

  263. 263.

    Sm*t Cl*de

    @cain:
    I am old enough to remember that joke in the Victorian version. “Yes, the honorable MP for X did promise to turn over a new leaf. He started at the bottom of the page.”

  264. 264.

    Calouste

    @mrmoshpotato: Yeah, it’s not like these people “struggle” to make ends meet. The ends actually meet very well if you can put money away for retirement and a college fund and have leftovers for vacations.

  265. 265.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jay: And don’t forget Health Care (employer subsidized)

    Time for cartoons then sleep. Good night.

  271. 271.

    Chris Johnson

    @jl:

    Which reminds me, fourth thing today, apparently came out that Pence was up to his eyeballs in the Ukraine mess, except for some reason, his people say, he didn’t notice or didn’t quite understand what was gong on? Four things hit while I was out this afternoon. Edit: We already knew he was the designated bag man for monitor compliance and collect official Ukrainian work product. But apparently he was read in on every damn detail of it. Why would anyone let someone like Pence in on the whole scheme?

    Because he is the Manafort-picked, chosen Russian successor agent for when Trump flakes out, which was expected to happen way before now. He’s dumb, but Trump is insane and twisted so he’s a way better agent. Of course he was read in on every detail of it. He is the intended Russian mole President and always has been. He was meant to be the end game.

    Nice to see that failing. Imagine if Trump flamed out over something else and the media got the chance to be all, ‘Return to normalcy with President Pence!’.

  276. 276.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Chris Johnson:

    Because he is the Manafort-picked, chosen Russian successor agent for when Trump flakes out, which was expected to happen way before now. He’s dumb, but Trump is insane and twisted so he’s a way better agent. Of course he was read in on every detail of it. He is the intended Russian mole President and always has been. He was meant to be the end game.

    Glad to see someone else finally figured out what I was posting at least 18 months ago.

    Nice to see that failing.

    Don’t speak too soon – compromised MSM arseholes like Pinche Sulzberger’s drones still have a shot at scrubbing clean the former consensus Stupidest Member Of The House Of Representatives. Eternal vigilance, peeps.

  277. 277.

    artem1s

    @jl:

    Edit: need a BJ blog contest on what countries Trump didn’t call.

    Georgia, but only because he called the US state by mistake

  278. 278.

    lee

    @Adam L Silverman: Dude that’s awesome news to just slide into a random thread. Good for you!

    Yeah this ‘news’ is going to hurt Warren just like that dancing video hurt AOC….

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