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You are here: Home / Politics / America / Good Work President “I Don’t Know Them”! Lev Parnas’s Dinner Reservations at the White House Edition

Good Work President “I Don’t Know Them”! Lev Parnas’s Dinner Reservations at the White House Edition

by Adam L Silverman|  October 10, 20198:27 pm| 115 Comments

This post is in: America, Domestic Politics, Election 2016, Election 2018, Foreign Affairs, Impeachment Inquiry, Open Threads, Politics, All Too Normal

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The President did his usual Mariah Carey impression earlier today when asked about his relationship with the now indicted Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman.

Asked about two men with ties to Rudy Giuliani arrested earlier today, Pres. Trump says, "I don't know those gentlemen. Now, it's possible I have a picture with them, because I have a picture with everybody."

"Maybe they were clients of Rudy," he adds. "You'd have to ask Rudy." pic.twitter.com/EzCIEA6QMz

— ABC News (@ABC) October 10, 2019

Unfortunately for President Good Brain, Lev Parnas documented his dinner with the President on May 1st at the White House on Instagram!

 

On the menu were a wedge salad and a “Presidential cheeseburger”. Because when you have someone over for dinner at the White House the worst possible salad option from a 1950s steak house and a cheeseburger really scream elegance. Also, do they play Hail to the Beef when they serve it?

Obligatory!

https://giphy.com/gifs/new-meghan-trainor-CsyFeRxyH0um4

Also, if you’re going to go on MSNBC as a contributor because you were a Republican member of Congress to opine on how bad this is and how much jeopardy this creates for your former Republican colleagues in the House of Representatives, maybe you shouldn’t have this bouncing around on social media!

I’m talking to you Curbelo!

Open thread!

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  1. 1.

    mapghimagsik

    October 10, 2019 at 8:30 pm

    LIar. Fire. Pants. Yes.

  2. 2.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    October 10, 2019 at 8:30 pm

    Who served as coffee boy? Giuliani? Hahahaha!

  3. 3.

    cain

    October 10, 2019 at 8:33 pm

    Fuck it’s an all clown circus out there isn’t it? All crooks and liars. Can’t wait to see some evangelical leaders get caught with some oligarchy money. Watching the conservative world implode is a beautiful thing.

    But we need to put these people in jail.

  4. 4.

    Mary G

    October 10, 2019 at 8:35 pm

    at least there’s no video pic.twitter.com/JVaUyJpm4V— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) October 10, 2019

  5. 5.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 10, 2019 at 8:38 pm

    @Mary G: My ass they’re raising money for Jewish refugees? Jewish refugees from what? Where?

    at least there’s no video pic.twitter.com/JVaUyJpm4V

    — Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) October 10, 2019

    It’s like the late night commercials trying to raise money for elderly Jewish Holocaust survivors in Siberia.

  6. 6.

    Mary G

    October 10, 2019 at 8:41 pm

    When retired 4-star General Mattis chastised retired 4-star General Allen (and 3-star Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn) at his recent DC book party for speaking out in politics as civilians, Allen quickly left the party. I found him: https://t.co/U5S4cgrHYv— Kevin Baron (@DefenseBaron) October 10, 2019

    ETA: Summary “This is just chaos, Christianne.”

  7. 7.

    PeakVT

    October 10, 2019 at 8:42 pm

    About as sharp as a sack of wet mice, the lot of them.

    I saw two falling stars this week and both times I wished for Trump to resign. I’ll settle for an aneurysm, though.

  8. 8.

    mapghimagsik

    October 10, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    @PeakVT: I hope you worded that wish carefully. It would be sad if you got an aneurysm.

  9. 9.

    Chyron HR

    October 10, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    To be fair, that looks like a hostage video.

  10. 10.

    Mary G

    October 10, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    Guess I need to buy a generator. Any recommendations?

    Power shut offs now hitting Southern California communities without any prior warning https://t.co/H31Ldhhtze— Jon Passantino (@passantino) October 11, 2019

  11. 11.

    Mike in NC

    October 10, 2019 at 8:50 pm

    Awful lot of fat old white guys in those pictures.

  12. 12.

    The Moar You Know

    October 10, 2019 at 8:51 pm

    It’s like the late night commercials trying to raise money for elderly Jewish Holocaust survivors in Siberia.

    @Adam L Silverman: The end of that video is quite telling. Rudy is terrified of those guys.

  13. 13.

    p.a.

    October 10, 2019 at 8:51 pm

    These shits may actually need a milit coup to last till 2020. How much have the Christianists seeded the military? Adam?

  14. 14.

    J R in WV

    October 10, 2019 at 8:54 pm

    @Mary G:

    at least there’s no video pic.twitter.com/JVaUyJpm4V— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) October 10, 2019

    Are you SURE??

  15. 15.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    October 10, 2019 at 8:55 pm

    I need some lawsplaining, things are moving too fast for my poor brain.

    OK, Furman and Parnas were originally scheduled to talk to Congress last week sometime as I understand it. Their lawyer wrote a letter asking for more time and promised they would testify tomorrow. And then they were arrested last night trying to leave the country.

    It seems too much of a coincidence to me that there was already an indictment obtained in parallel with the negotiations for Congressional testimony. I glanced at the indictment and saw it’s from our old friends the SDNY US Attorney’s office. What is going on here? Are we seeing a secret weapon that Adam Schiff has held in reserve to bring reluctant witnesses in? Can we anticipate more SDNY arrests for people who think they can just say “nah, sorry” when subpoenaed by Congress? Or are both of these truly parallel and unrelated sequences of events, one national and one state, flowing from the Mueller report? (My extensive law enforcement training consisting of years of detective novels and TV shows has taught me to be suspicious of coincidences.)

    Also how did they know to pick them up at Dulles? What was the sequence of events there? I’m guessing that their passports had been flagged and when they presented them it set off an alarm. What agency did the actual arresting, TSA?

  16. 16.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 10, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    @p.a.: Give this a read:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/11/military-officers-trump/598360/

  17. 17.

    Keith P.

    October 10, 2019 at 8:58 pm

    Wedge salads are fashionable again….real haute

  18. 18.

    Chyron HR

    October 10, 2019 at 8:58 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Also how did they know to pick them up at Dulles?

    Oh, nobody flies out of National anymore.

  19. 19.

    Mary G

    October 10, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    Trump is now doing a soft-core porn interpretation of the Strzok-Page texts. He has no future in adult entertainment.— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) October 11, 2019

  20. 20.

    J R in WV

    October 10, 2019 at 9:00 pm

    @Mary G:

    Guess I need to buy a generator. Any recommendations?

    Great results with a Honda (in AZ) and a Yamaha (in WV) back before we got a Generac. Neighbor got one too. None of these are inexpensive, but they all are easy start and are quiet.

    Years ago we had a cheap construction kinda generator, it sat on the front porch just below the bedroom upstairs, and it was REALLY LOUD to the point where one Very cold winter night it quit because the lube oil got low and I jumped up out of bed to get it fired up before stuff froze.

    Best of luck! To size one add up the watts of what you absolutely have to have running, fridge, freezer, medical appliances, etc, and then get a generator that provides that amount of watts continuously.

  21. 21.

    Percysowner

    October 10, 2019 at 9:01 pm

    Once upon a time we had a good WORKS President

    Many of you don’t know him but he was the president of the US from 1977-1981. He builds homes for folks in need. He’s been sick, had cancer, and recently had a fall. Still shows up every day to help those who need it. A great man. The comparison is heart breaking. #JimmyCarter ❤️ pic.twitter.com/fL3EVbawMd— Samantha Ferris (@samanthajferris) October 9, 2019

    Bless you Jimmy Carter.

  22. 22.

    patrick II

    October 10, 2019 at 9:01 pm

    Good to know Bill Barr hasn’t suppressed every embarrassing investigation in the Justice Department.

  23. 23.

    FelonyGovt

    October 10, 2019 at 9:02 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Reminds me of a bit from the British TV show Hustle, where the fraudsters set up outside a store soliciting donations “for the crippled children”. When a passerby asks which children, the answer is, “the crippled ones, like”.

  24. 24.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 10, 2019 at 9:02 pm

    it's like if some guy saw a murder & reported it…then the murderer turned himself in AND released the evidence AND way more crimes came out…and the @GOP is like, ya, but who really is this witness!? did the witness alert the right cop!? what if the witness is a DEMOCRAT!?— Jesse Lehrich (@JesseLehrich) October 10, 2019

  25. 25.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 10, 2019 at 9:04 pm

    @PeakVT:

    About as sharp as a sack of wet mice, the lot of them.

    I’m thinking about as sharp as a wet sackful of wet sacks.

  26. 26.

    Mary G

    October 10, 2019 at 9:04 pm

    WaPo reports another rat has jumped the ship:

    Michael McKinley, a career diplomat and senior adviser to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, has resigned his position amid rising dissatisfaction and plummeting morale inside the State Department over what is seen as Pompeo’s failure to support personnel ensnared in the Ukraine controversy.

    Schedule his appearance, Rep. Schiff!

    ETA: Oops, forgot linky – https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/senior-adviser-to-pompeo-resigns/2019/10/10/0d771aa2-ebb5-11e9-85c0-85a098e47b37_story.html

  27. 27.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 10, 2019 at 9:06 pm

    meanwhile, at the 60 Minute Hate in Minneapolis:

    Daniel Dale
    Trump is telling a Darling story, a cousin of the Sir story, about how he told the First Lady, darling, that he was finally going to get “respect” from the media after he was elected, but instead coverage got worse.

    so many layers to that one

  28. 28.

    Chyron HR

    October 10, 2019 at 9:08 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    “I thought everyone would respect me once I started committing crimes against humanity in addition to the regular kind.”

  29. 29.

    J R in WV

    October 10, 2019 at 9:08 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Or are both of these truly parallel and unrelated sequences of events, one national and one state, flowing from the Mueller report?

    Perhaps parallel and unrelated, but neither event chain is state, the SDNY is federal US Attorney / Justice Dept, Congress, well that’s legislative, not Executive, but neither is state of NY.

  30. 30.

    gene108

    October 10, 2019 at 9:08 pm

    Kind of glad hanging around with criminals is finally catching up with Trump and Republicans.

    Also, kind of sad the pedophile Nader didn’t generate any negative press for Trump, since he did have a role in the campaign.

  31. 31.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 10, 2019 at 9:09 pm

    Okay, the firehose of news has done me in. I’m tuning out and going into the kitchen to bake. This Buttermilk Pumpkin Cake specifically.

  32. 32.

    WhatsMyNym

    October 10, 2019 at 9:11 pm

    @Mary G:

    Guess I need to buy a generator. Any recommendations?

    Really depends on your needs – some reading for you
    and here.
    I like Honda’s but they are pricey.

    eta: Good overview by Consumer Reports.

  33. 33.

    Aleta

    October 10, 2019 at 9:14 pm

    @Mary G: Last year we got a little portable Honda, gasoline. It has to run outside the house, so we needed an external plug (or else a power cord through the window). It’s enough to run the freezer and start the furnace, but nothing else big. We chose a small Honda cause it’s quieter and can be carried inside when we don’t need it.

    We hired an electrician to connect wiring from the plug outside down to the basement where the furnace is. But we forgot to make sure she also put in a midway plug for the freezer.

    Just as we hoped, doing all that guaranteed all we didn’t have a single outage last winter.

  34. 34.

    patrick II

    October 10, 2019 at 9:17 pm

    @FelonyGovt:
    Which reminds me of a couple of real life guys on a street corner during the ’93 St. Louis flood soliciting for the Salvation Army. They had misspelled “Salvation” on their coffee cans and got arrested. They should have went with “Red Cross”.

  35. 35.

    clay

    October 10, 2019 at 9:17 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I know that other people barely exist for Trump, but could he really look at 10 or so Presidents of his adult life and think, yeah, these guys had it made once they were elected?

  36. 36.

    Martin

    October 10, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    We’re probably going to get a whole house battery in the next year or two. Tesla has a new cathode design that looks legit and should extend battery life by about 3x. Since we generate about double our power needs daily from our solar, a 16 hour battery should get us through almost any outage provided it doesn’t happen over 3 rainy days, which is almost unheard of here.

  37. 37.

    Ken

    October 10, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Also how did they know to pick them up at Dulles?

    Oh, that’s easy. You leak to Giuliani that they’re going to be arrested. You know he’ll run to tell them. You also know that Trump’s grifting has no limit, so you can be pretty sure he’ll talk to them at one of Trump’s NY properties. And you’ve had all his properties bugged for years, plus half the staff works for US law enforcement. (The other half is foreign intelligence.)

  38. 38.

    Laura Too

    October 10, 2019 at 9:21 pm

    JFC, step out to protest 45 and all this happens. How to keep up???

  39. 39.

    Feathers

    October 10, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    It really amazes me that they are shutting off the power in California because of fire risk and now everyone is just going to be running gasoline powered generators in their back yards.

    This is going to go well.

  40. 40.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 10, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    Stop it crazy-ass week!

    Three A Closer Looks from Seth Meyers!

  41. 41.

    Martin

    October 10, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Also how did they know to pick them up at Dulles?

    Flag their passports so they can’t get on the plane. But he met with Rudes yesterday, so they knew roughly where he was. Besides, these guys don’t really blend in.

    Wait until Firtash’s participation in all of this hits the regular news.

  42. 42.

    OGLiberal

    October 10, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    We interact with people who are wingnuts but not stupid. When I say “not stupid” I mean they are smart enough to discern something that is bullshit and something that is just fake. Anything that contradicts their world view is “fake news” and “deep state”. It’s not worth having a conversation with these people because that’s where it all ends up. Again, these are not people of limited mental capacity or folks with limited access to info. These are folks who force this narrative into their framing because they are afraid to say that they believe what they believe because brown people. Because when you listen to them, that’s what it is. Brown people are getting free shit. Brown people are lying to get free shit. Free shit ain’t bad, it’s just bad when undeserving folks get it.

    These people will never be swayed so fuck them.

  43. 43.

    p.a.

    October 10, 2019 at 9:27 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Reassuring. Honoring the Constitutional Oath: so 2015 ?

  44. 44.

    Raven

    October 10, 2019 at 9:28 pm

    @OGLiberal: I like the cut of your jib!

  45. 45.

    Martin

    October 10, 2019 at 9:29 pm

    @Feathers: Shifts the liability to the homeowner.

    Depends on what problem you’re trying to solve.

  46. 46.

    mapghimagsik

    October 10, 2019 at 9:29 pm

    @patrick II: Who wouldn’t want to contribute to the Salivation Army?

  47. 47.

    jl

    October 10, 2019 at 9:32 pm

    Picture with everybody? Trump got a picture with me? Shit. I don’t recall… Maybe I was really drunk one time when I was in NYC. I don’t have it. How do I get it back?

  48. 48.

    Mary G

    October 10, 2019 at 9:32 pm

    @WhatsMyNym: Those look great, thank you.

  49. 49.

    Mary G

    October 10, 2019 at 9:33 pm

    @Martin: What solar do you have?

  50. 50.

    Aleta

    October 10, 2019 at 9:35 pm

    @Mary G: If not for the biggest problem of pipes freezing if the temps dropped too low for too long, I wouldn’t have bothered with enough power for the furnace. Maybe just enough for a heater for one room and a charger and something for food. I have some small inflatable waterproof solar lamps (ImPowerd) and a camp stove with propane.

    (One time during a 6 day outage in deep winter I had a little wood-fired boat stove that we hooked up by hacking through a wall into an old thimble. It wouldn’t have saved our pipes though if the outage went on much longer.) I’ve been looking at new designs of small winter camping stoves that are wood fired. But there are safety considerations with them.

  51. 51.

    Mike in NC

    October 10, 2019 at 9:40 pm

    I’ll gladly go to my grave knowing I never had to debase myself by being photographed standing next to a leering degenerate like Donald Trump.

  52. 52.

    Martin

    October 10, 2019 at 9:44 pm

    @Mary G: We had it installed by a local company here in OC: Aikyum Solar. They were wonderful. Female owned, very good. The panels are LG with a SolarEdge inverter. Produces about 26kWh/day max. We use about half that or a bit less on non-AC days. AC days we use pretty much all of it. I’m just a few miles from the beach, so not many AC days.

    Cost about $10K after tax rebates. We pay $8/mo for the grid connection and get credits for excess power produced. Over a year, we should produce enough to offset our consumption (evenings, etc.). With the whole house battery, we’d easily overproduce (credits aren’t 1-1).

  53. 53.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    October 10, 2019 at 9:45 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I was hoping you could answer this question for me, Adam: As commander-in-chief, how much control does Trump have over the officers that serve in the military? Who in the military decides things like promotions and discharges and could corrupt civilian appointees in the Pentagon/Department of Defense put pressure on the armed services to force out anyone critical of Trump?

  54. 54.

    lee

    October 10, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    In those last images that seems to be former Rep Pete Sessions (he lost to Dem Alred in the last election). He carpetbagged himself into a safe district and is trying to return to Congress.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out with him.

  55. 55.

    JaySinWA

    October 10, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    I was trying to track down the other two, one supposedly arrested in San Fran. One was still missing last I heard. Does anyone have the updates? The Dules arrests have drown out the other news.
    ETA Kulushkin was arrested according to this https://wvva.com/news/virginia-news-from-the-associated-press/2019/10/10/the-latest-documents-say-us-lawmakers-ukraine-help-sought/

  56. 56.

    Mike in NC

    October 10, 2019 at 9:52 pm

    Next week Trump will tweet, “While I’ve never actually met Mike Pence, I’ve heard some very good things about him”.

  57. 57.

    Marcopolo

    October 10, 2019 at 9:52 pm

    In case there are any FPers who would like to put up a respite thread—how about a “Who do you think will/should win the Nobel Peace prize tomorrow?”

    I’m kinda partial to Chef Jose for his work feeding disaster victims around the world.

    I wouldn’t be unhappy if Greta won either.

    The PMs of Ethiopia & New Zealand & Reporters w/out Borders have been mentioned as favorites along with a tribal chief from the Amazon region. Caveat: all the names of each year’s nominees are only released 50 years after that award is made.

    Here’s the CNN piece on it: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/10/world/nobel-peace-prize-2019-favorites-scli-intl/index.html

  58. 58.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 10, 2019 at 9:57 pm

    @JaySinWA: I was trying to track down the other two, one supposedly arrested in San Fran.

    “other two” as in two more flunkies arrest in regard to trump and/or Rudi? First I’ve heard of it

    and I’ll say it: sometimes I like a wedge salad. Not my favorite, not my usual order, but it doesn’t suck

  59. 59.

    p.a.

    October 10, 2019 at 9:58 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: The autocrat playbook, page 1. I’ll stop calling conservatives fascists when they stop using the playbook

  60. 60.

    JaySinWA

    October 10, 2019 at 9:59 pm

    @JaySinWA: Andrey Kukushkin to spell it correctly. arrested at home not fleeing.

  61. 61.

    jl

    October 10, 2019 at 9:59 pm

    @Marcopolo: Ducks. Or flowers. Some pretty trees.with sun and shade dapple action.
    Or, maybe something on booze. I dunno, any front poster expert on everclear? With the daily onslaught of freako bad news, I want to look into everclear. Might make for a nice hobby.

    Edit: way things are going, BC will probably post some pics of savage swamp critters eating each other. I remember when BC lived in a charmed magic swamp paradise, she was the swamp queen, and cute magic animals would emerge from swamp to worship her. Ah… those were the days.

  62. 62.

    Mary G

    October 10, 2019 at 10:00 pm

    @Martin: Calling them tomorrow, thanks, to see if they come to the southern end of the OC & work with SDG&E. Been halfheartedly researching, but there is so much confusion.

  63. 63.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 10, 2019 at 10:01 pm

    @Mike in NC: tonight’s Daily Award For Negative Self-Awareness– known familiarly as the Megan McCains– goes to the President Himself (awards, I’ve won awards)

    Daniel Dale @ ddale8
    Trump on Biden: “He was only a good vice president because he understood how to kiss Barack Obama’s ass.”

    and looking for this in Dale’s feed he’s switched from race-baiting Ilhan Omar and the Somali community in general to praising cops who wear Cops for Trump shirts to his rallies, which is not at all frightening

  64. 64.

    JaySinWA

    October 10, 2019 at 10:02 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yep I found the one arrested, above JaySinWA There were four spreading Russian money around in the indictment.

  65. 65.

    Roger Moore

    October 10, 2019 at 10:03 pm

    @Mary G:

    Guess I need to buy a generator. Any recommendations?

    Might I suggest as an alternative getting a home solar system with a battery backup? In a lot of places you can now get them financed, where the finance charges wind up being comparable to or cheaper than your current electric bill. If you want to keep running when the grid is down, you need a special isolating switch, but especially here in California it’s a reasonable option.

  66. 66.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 10, 2019 at 10:04 pm

    Miriam Elder @ MiriamElder
    Trump calls out Somali immigrants who settled in Minneapolis and says “I would give local commmunities a greater say in refugee policy.” The excerpt below details his obsession with Somali immigrants.

    Kellyanne taught him a new way to say “Send them back”

  67. 67.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 10, 2019 at 10:04 pm

    @Mary G: This has some informative reviews.

    https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-portable-generator/

  68. 68.

    BR

    October 10, 2019 at 10:06 pm

    @Mary G:

    Solar with an inverter that can operate off-grid and some batteries if the grid goes down is a better option. The prices have really come down.

  69. 69.

    Jeffro

    October 10, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: “Local control!” Is a helluva drug. Also, usually very bad policy.

  70. 70.

    sm*t cl*de

    October 10, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    @patrick II:

    They had misspelled “Salvation” on their coffee cans and got arrested.

    “Salivation Army”? Sounds legit!

  71. 71.

    Roger Moore

    October 10, 2019 at 10:08 pm

    @Ken:
    More realistically, if they want to flee the country, they have to do it under their own names unless they have fake passports. So when you’re considering arresting them, you have their names flagged in the system to see if/when they’ve bought tickets, and you can pick them up at the airport. As someone commented in an earlier thread, law enforcement likes arresting people inside security at the airport because they’ve already been screened for weapons.

  72. 72.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 10, 2019 at 10:08 pm

    good news from the podcasting O’Bros, who I think work with this group

    The Democratic digital firm ACRONYM will
    spend $1 million on an ad campaign
    to test different pro-impeachment across five swing states—
    Arizona, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin—and may take the campaign national after this test run. “Our hypothesis is that the facts speak for themselves,” said ACRONYM’s Chief Marketing Officer Shannon Kowalczyk. “So when you lay them
    out clearly people will understand what’s going on.”

    trump is really flooding the web, almost every time I’ve looked at youtube in the last couple weeks, it starts with a trump ad, and I gather the something is happening on Facebook (trump book)

  73. 73.

    JaySinWA

    October 10, 2019 at 10:10 pm

    @JaySinWA: From The Hill,

    A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s office said that Fruman and Parnas were arrested at Dulles International Airport outside Washington, D.C., on Wednesday night. Another man named in the indictment, Andrey Kukushkin, was arrested in California. A fourth, an American businessman named David Correia, has not been arrested.

  74. 74.

    Jeffro

    October 10, 2019 at 10:10 pm

    @Martin: In Virginia the ins and outs of getting solar seem to be geared towards “ok, generate enough for your own use across the year…but not TOO much.”

    So we’re looking at generating enough for our own use across the year. No battery back up or storage or anything, though.

    Will probably decide later this month on whether or not to go ahead with it. It should pay for itself in 7-8 years and then provide ‘free’ energy for the remaining 17-18 years the system is expected to last.

  75. 75.

    Anne Laurie

    October 10, 2019 at 10:13 pm

    @Feathers:

    It really amazes me that they are shutting off the power in California because of fire risk and now everyone is just going to be running gasoline powered generators in their back yards.

    Yeah, but generator fires are the responsibility of the unfortunate homeowners, or their insurance companies. PG&E-equipment-sparked wildfires might suddenly turn out to be the responsibility of PG&E… which is *not* taking that chance.

  76. 76.

    JaySinWA

    October 10, 2019 at 10:20 pm

    @JaySinWA: More on the “other two” from TPM https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/david-correia-andrey-kukushkin

  77. 77.

    --bd

    October 10, 2019 at 10:20 pm

    We had a three day outage in Dearborn a few months ago and ended up finding the last generator that any of the warehouse clubs had available. One thing you don’t realize if you haven’t used one before, is that, sure, you can do the simple math and figure out how many watts you need. Watts divided by volts equals amps and all that. But what you don’t realize is that some of the outlets on the generator are 30 amp and 50 amp. So if you are buying a portable generator, be sure to look at the outlets and find the necessary adapters. Your Home Depot, Lowe’s, etc., carry adapters that turn that 50 amp outlet into 4 standard plugs.

  78. 78.

    J R in WV

    October 10, 2019 at 10:22 pm

    Don’t know about specific folks, but if you’re a renter, getting solar looks all different from being a home-owner. We did grow to hate dealing with gasoline for the portable generators, the current Generac runs on natural gas and actually is more efficient than the grid in terms of $$ per watt used.

    A little noisy tho, compared to the Yamaha camping generator.

  79. 79.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 10, 2019 at 10:23 pm

    t the time, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was personally lobbying Trump to get the charges dropped.
    Trump, in turn, repeatedly raised the topic with Tillerson — including directly in the Oval Office meeting, according to people with knowledge of the episode.
    The president was joined in the Oval Office by two of Zarrab’s attorneys, Giuliani and Michael Mukasey, a former attorney general under President George W. Bush who proposed swapping the trader for an American pastor in Turkish custody, according to two people familiar with the meeting.
    “The president says, ‘Guys, give Rex your pitch,’ ” according to one of the people.
    Tillerson was so unsettled by the extraordinary request to intervene in an ongoing criminal investigation that he complained to then-Chief of Staff John F. Kelly that he believed it was inappropriate, according to a former administration official. Kelly told him to disregard it, the official said.

    is this one of those stories the Average Voter finds too confusing?

  80. 80.

    Mary G

    October 10, 2019 at 10:23 pm

    @BR: Yes, when I saw Martin’s post, I thought that. Already found his company online.

  81. 81.

    Steeplejack

    October 10, 2019 at 10:24 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    It’s like the late night commercials trying to raise money for elderly Jewish Holocaust survivors in Siberia.

    Yeah, what is up with that? I assume it’a scam, but what is the hook? Who is supposed to be motivated to give? And where does the money go?

  82. 82.

    chris

    October 10, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    Gotta love SPW!

    This Elizabeth Warren answer was quite a moment at CNN #EqualityTownHall pic.twitter.com/ThpI7YSO8M— MJ Lee (@mj_lee) 11 October 2019

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    Sab

    October 10, 2019 at 10:35 pm

    @Roger Moore: @BR: Luddite here. One of the reasons I love Balloon Juice.

    I have a brother in CA with solar power that he sells back to the grid. Was worrying about what happens when grid is down . Who knew that would even be a problem when he got it installed? You guys have sort of answered the question of what happens.

    In NE Ohio one of the trendy alternative energy things for ruralish was wind power. Guy I knew installed some wind turbines. First year they didn’t work so well since not much wind. So he chopped down the windbreak trees at the end of the lot. Next year turbines worked great, but his roof blew off in the first major storm.

  84. 84.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 10, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    @Sab: I shouldn’t laugh at that punch line, but I did.

  85. 85.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 10, 2019 at 10:40 pm

    @mapghimagsik: Twelve thousand plus lies and counting and surrounded by other bold faced liars and criminal-tolerating miscreants.

  86. 86.

    Sab

    October 10, 2019 at 10:41 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: The guy whose roof blew off also laughed (ruefully) when he told me.

  87. 87.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 10, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    @J R in WV:

    if you’re a renter, getting solar looks all different from being a home-owner.

    Yeah, as in, AIN”T GONNA HAPPEN.

    So it sucks to be you when you have to run your own A/C during the summer and rack up electricity bills. Oh, here’s another rent hike.

  88. 88.

    Mike in NC

    October 10, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Recall when Fat Bastard addressed some cop group and encouraged them to not be afraid to “rough them up a bit” when putting suspects in custody. Sick POS.

  89. 89.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 10, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: One the officer side, promotion is based on time in grade combined with one’s annual evaluations. For promotion, a board is convened and each candidate eligible is considered and voted upon. It is political, but it is within the military politics. There is a similar process for enlisted/NCOs and warrant officers. General officers/flag officers are handled the same way. Once the promotion lists are decided upon, they are sent up the chain, where the appropriate personnel officers handle them. This includes being formally nominated for the promotion, the nominations being voted on by the appropriate committees in the Senate and then the whole Senate, etc. The President, just like his predecessor, does get to decide who his Service chiefs are, who the chairman and vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs are, and who the Geographic Combatant and Service Component Commanders are. And to a lesser extent subordinate commanders. Usually this is pro forma. The President will defer to recommendations coming from the Service Chiefs, the Service Secretaries, and the Secretary of Defense. But they do have the final say. And they will make changes if they’re unhappy. Secretary Mattis recommended the US Air Force Chief of Staff, Gen. Goldfein, to be the next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This was partially because of how highly Gen. Godlfein is thought of and partially because it was the US Air Force’s turn to have the CJCS be from the Air Force. The President decided he wanted the then US Army Chief of Staff, GEN Milley, as his Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, overruled or ignored Mattis’s recommendation, and nominated GEN Milley, who is now the CJCS. Gen. Goldfein remains the Chief of Staff of the Air Force. Some of this may be personality. The President may get along better with GEN Milley than he does with Gen. Goldfein.

    Another example is when President Obama removed then Gen Mattis as the CENTCOM Commanding General. For whatever reason they did not get on. My impression from the RUMINT is that President Obama appreciated Gen Mattis’s service, his experience, and his expertise, but that their personalities clashed. That Gen Mattis wanted a tougher line on Iran and wouldn’t stop advocating for it even after President Obama told him no several times. So Obama replaced him, which pushed Mattis out and into retirement about four months or so than was planned. Obama replaced him with Army GEN Lloyd Austin. My understanding is that the relationship was much better. An important note here. The CENTCOM Commanding General is on with the President every day. And because CENTCOM is the most active Area of Responsibility of any Geographic Combatant Command, a lot of those conversations are about all the bad things that are happening. And so CENTCOM Commanders can wear out their welcome quickly not because they’re bad at their jobs or they don’t get on with the president they report to, but because they’re constantly bearing bad news.

  90. 90.

    Mary G

    October 10, 2019 at 10:43 pm

    bret stephens backed out of the event he was supposed to do with the professor who called him a bedbug because he wanted it to be closed to the public https://t.co/3PmO3VKBm5— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) October 11, 2019

  91. 91.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 10, 2019 at 10:44 pm

    @JaySinWA: David Correia is the one still at large. It has now been reported that he will turn himself in tomorrow.

  92. 92.

    Amir Khalid

    October 10, 2019 at 10:44 pm

    @Sab:
    @Gin & Tonic:
    Gee, I wonder why those windbreak trees were there in the first place …

  93. 93.

    Kent

    October 10, 2019 at 10:45 pm

    @Mary G:

    Guess I need to buy a generator. Any recommendations?

    Are there even any to be found anywhere in Northern CA at this point? Prior to big hurricanes I’d see every big box store stripped bare of them when I lived in Texas. I imagine you won’t have a lot of options.

    You can screw up big time by trying to plug a generator into your house circuits unless you do some major wiring. Best to just get some extension cords and plug directly into the freezer and fridge and whatever else you need at the moment.

  94. 94.

    Martin

    October 10, 2019 at 10:45 pm

    @Mary G: Good. I think you’ll be happy with them. I thought they did a great job of walking through the process and explaining everything.

  95. 95.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 10, 2019 at 10:48 pm

    @Steeplejack: I’m guessing it’s a scam aimed at Christian Zionists and other evangelicals.

  96. 96.

    Martin

    October 10, 2019 at 10:48 pm

    @Jeffro: You can’t make money here doing it. So you generate credits which you then deduct. Any extra at the end of the year get tossed out. So you can run your bill down to $0 except for the connection charge. I think that’s pretty reasonable.

    We bought with the expectation that we’d be charging an EV and getting a whole house battery at some point, and our system can be expanded if we want to add more panels. I think we have room for about 50% more. We had them install the EV plug for the installation so it got covered by the city inspection.

  97. 97.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 10, 2019 at 10:49 pm

    @Mary G: Brett Stephens, as well as Bari Weiss, aren’t bedbugs. They’re just assholes.

  98. 98.

    My Side of Town

    October 10, 2019 at 10:50 pm

    @jl: Everclear 190 proof is really great for dissolving THC in cannabis and boiling it off to create a very nice THC oil.

  99. 99.

    Calouste

    October 10, 2019 at 10:52 pm

    More amateur hour. Of course you don’t say that you don’t know these guys, you say that they are patriots who are framed by the Deep State because they have important information on Biden. How hard is that?

  100. 100.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 10, 2019 at 10:54 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Brett Stephens, as well as Bari Weiss, aren’t bedbugs. They’re just assholes.

    Chickens’ assholes at that!

  101. 101.

    Mike in NC

    October 10, 2019 at 10:57 pm

    Tonight my wife read a story that Tyler Perry bought what was once Fort McPherson in Georgia (where she grew up in the 50s) and is making into a huge movie studio. Dude is filthy rich.

  102. 102.

    H.E.Wolf

    October 10, 2019 at 10:59 pm

    @jl:

    With the daily onslaught of freako bad news, I want to look into everclear.

    Can’t you take up knitting names into scarves whilst at the foot of the guillotine, like the rest of the sans-culottes?

    If you take up drinking everclear, you’ll be a sans-foie, sans doute.

    Bonne nuit, toutes mes camarades…

  103. 103.

    Sab

    October 10, 2019 at 11:03 pm

    @Amir Khalid: You’d think since he called them windbreak trees he would have figured that out. The non-luddites just get carried away by new technology.

    Thirty years or so he should have his trees back. Meanwhile he has great turbines.

  104. 104.

    My Side of Town

    October 10, 2019 at 11:07 pm

    My answer to power outages. Move to Florida. At least you won’t freeze. Of course you won’t freeze in CA at this time of year either.

  105. 105.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    October 10, 2019 at 11:08 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Thanks! So, IOW, it’s exceedingly unlikely that Trump could pull an Erdogan 2016-style purge of the armed forces?

    Speaking of Erdogan, this is a real headline on Fox.com:
    Turkey-Syria payback: Norway suspends arms sales to Erdogan regime, exposing cracks in NATO solidarity

    Fuck Erdogan, Turkey should be expelled from NATO, and if they can’t they should be made members-in-name only

  106. 106.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 10, 2019 at 11:10 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: It would be very difficult to do.

  107. 107.

    VOR

    October 10, 2019 at 11:12 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The City of Minneapolis has a new rule that police are not allowed to be on stage at political rallies in uniform. So the head of the local police union came up with “Cops for Trump” t-shirts for them to wear instead.

  108. 108.

    Duane

    October 10, 2019 at 11:16 pm

    @Sab: Everclear! So much more than a great breakfast drink! (Wrong person. Maybe not a great breakfast drink)

  109. 109.

    Sab

    October 10, 2019 at 11:19 pm

    @My Side of Town: Hurricanes. Tornados. Alligators. Poisonous snakes. 30-50 wild boars attacking your children in your yard. Chiggers in the spanish moss. Coral snakes. Man o war jellyfish at the beach. Florida man and Florida woman everywhere. Stand your ground laws that allow every nervous nellie to shoot anyone anywhere and then clsim they were scared. Hot summers.

  110. 110.

    J Green

    October 10, 2019 at 11:56 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Anatevka Jewish Refugee Co.? Anatevka was the village where Tevye, the dairyman, was from in Sholom Aleichem’s stories that were the basis for Fiddler on the Roof. Bit of a giveaway, isn’t it?

  111. 111.

    Tehanu

    October 11, 2019 at 1:55 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I posted this before refreshing the page and only then saw that J Green @110 beat me to this — Anatevka, that’s the village Fiddler on the Roof is set in, correct? An imaginary village?

  112. 112.

    Tehanu

    October 11, 2019 at 2:05 am

    @Mike in NC:

    I’ll gladly go to my grave knowing I never had to debase myself by being photographed standing next to a leering degenerate like Donald Trump.

    Hear, hear!

  113. 113.

    mardam422

    October 11, 2019 at 7:34 am

    I did not have coffee with those men, Misters Parna and Fruman.

  114. 114.

    debbie

    October 11, 2019 at 8:02 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I hate those ads! Did you see the one where they begged for funds for people in Israel who were too poor to have a Seder meal?

  115. 115.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    October 11, 2019 at 9:10 am

    @Adam L Silverman: So Trump bases his ideas on movies. Lovely.

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