Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Speaker Mike Johnson is a vile traitor to the House and the Constitution.

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

Republicans: “Abortion is murder but you can take a bus to get one.” Easy peasy.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

When you’re a Republican, they let you do it.

Dear media: perhaps we ought to let Donald Trump speak for himself!

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

We will not go back.

SCOTUS: It’s not “bribery” unless it comes from the Bribery region of France. Otherwise, it’s merely “sparkling malfeasance”.

Anne Laurie is a fucking hero in so many ways. ~ Betty Cracker

If you voted for Trump, you don’t get to speak about ethics, morals, or rule of law.

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

Hey hey, RFK, how many kids did you kill today?

Petty moves from a petty man.

I’m more christian than these people and i’m an atheist.

Marge, god is saying you’re stupid.

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

“Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on.”

Trump’s cabinet: like a magic 8 ball that only gives wrong answers.

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.

’Where will you hide, Roberts, the laws all being flat?’

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There was a bumper crop of good post-Watergate books — I still have copies of a few, including The Friends of Richard Nixon and Trout Fishing in the Reflecting Pool — but the prospects for post-Ukranium-1 ‘excellent reads’ is almost stunning:


[Cheers-style chorus: KARL!]

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  1. 1.

    Mary G

    Even the ones who seemed like they might be OK, like Mattis and Rod Rosenstein, just cause they were quiet, turn out to be just as bad.

  2. 2.

    laura

    Rick Wilson hardee har harring is just so much lifeboat building -look at that trump and rudy and all those Russians, but look away from years and years and years of the Republican party taking their laundered cash. Speak not of anything that preceded this trump fellow, because when he’s gone, I want my life as I knew it back, and I will absolutely take no responsibility for my part in everything that led to a trump presidency.
    Fuck that guy and his ilk.

  3. 3.

    Cacti

    I’ve gotten the feeling over the past week that Barr is setting Rudy up to take the fall for all of this.

  4. 4.

    SFAW

    @Mary G:

    Even the ones who seemed like they might be OK, like Mattis and Rod Rosenstein, just cause they were quiet, turn out to be just as bad.

    Sorta like Heydrich “seemed like he might have been OK”? Because he wasn’t as obvious as Goebbels? [At least (re: Heydrich), not to those of us born some years after.]

  5. 5.

    Wag

    I think we are living in an exceptionally paranoid Thomas Pynchon novel. We are all Slothrop, hiding from the V2 attacks and being force fed disgusting English candy by the pound

  6. 6.

    jl

    ” as rotten as a jack-o-lantern on Nov 1. ”
    That is faint praise, with too much praise, and not enough faint.
    I’d give it a couple of days at least, with a little heat wave Indian Summer action.

  7. 7.

    SFAW

    @Cacti:

    Philosophically agree, but Rudy’s been so fucking stupid, it may not be necessary for Traitor Barr to do anything. But if he does, lets hope he incriminates himself along the way.

  12. 12.

    jonas

    The way this will inevitably end is with the discovery of a secret email server in the Ukraine being used by the Trumps to hide emails related to their shady dealings with Russian/Ukrainian oligarchs. Trump simply projects too much for this not to be the case.

  13. 13.

    jl

    The Trump-Erdogan call and decision should be added to the impeachment investigation. Along with the decision to send 3,000 troops to Saudi Arabia, which is ‘paying’ for it. Heard on news that reporters are getting the run around on exactly how that payment works, little details like ‘who is paying whom’ and ‘how’ are getting stonewalled.

    Heard a typcally idiotic Trump quote that maybe he, or the US, could mediate between the Kurds and Turkey. Yeebus in a clown car. That is what we were doing, maybe moving too slowly to the satisfaction of Turkey, but that is what we were effing doing. Trump blew that up.

    Also not enough press calling out the lying gaslighting of the Trumpsters. Trump lies, or idiotically babbles that, without understanding what he’s saying, to get our troops home. Trumpters are allowed to say that in interviews and no pushback. The initial BS from Trump withdrew around 50 soldiers, but 3000 were sent to Saudi Arabia. That is a net +2950 according to arithmetic. Now Trump has followed through on his idiot senseless threat to pull out all the troops in Syria if Turkey wasn’t ‘moderate’. So, we still +2000 troops overseas.

    Trump should be impeached over his Turkish-Kurd idiot self-made disaster alone. Start with hearings about his vile suggestion that the ISIL who break jail go to Europe.

  17. 17.

    Cacti

    @jl:

    The Kurds have reached a deal with the Syrian Army to join forces against Turkey’s incursion. Trump forced them into Assad’s orbit.

    Putin is all smiles.

  19. 19.

    Jay

    Brett McGurk, to me: "Lister, Hassan, and all the usual suspects supported this nonsense plan; and to this day, even after the world has seen Turkish-backed oppo behead people on the M4 highway, insist we had some alternative to the SDF. They… got a lot of people killed."— Aris Roussinos (@arisroussinos) October 13, 2019

  20. 20.

    hervevillechaizelounge

    @laura:

    Fuck that guy and his ilk

    You know how we know Rick Wilson is full of shit? He’s been around these creeps, thugs and bleeding anal warts forever but he never, ever tells where the bodies are buried. Just like George Conway, he could probably take down the whole party if he wanted to, but that ain’t it kid, that ain’t it kid.

    Off topic for oldsters: would I be correct in suspecting Ukranium One is political bitch slap situation? And Uncle Joe has failed to demand pistols at dawn and thus has failed, yes?

  21. 21.

    tokyokie

    @Cacti:

    I’ve also suspected for a while that Rudy’s brain is no longer in mint condition.

    Hey, it could still even have that new-brain smell, considering that it’s hardly been used.

  23. 23.

    Wapiti

    @Mary G: Yeah, Mattis needs to be questioned about the boards he’s on.

    “So you turned a blind eye to the Theranos fraud. What other boards are you on? Do they all expect you to turn a blind eye to whatever the CEO does? How much are you getting paid for this and what value do you add?”

  24. 24.

    Cacti

    @Jay:

    Or a Russian Asset, maybe even a Russian Agent.

    And he is surrounded by others.

    I’ve said it here previously, if you view Trump from the premise that he was put in place to damage or end America’s standing as the world’s only superpower, most of what he does makes perfect sense.

  25. 25.

    SFAW

    @tokyokie:

    Hey, it could still even have that new-brain smell, considering that it’s hardly been used.

    More likely that the mint is used to mask the smell of rotting “brain” matter.

  26. 26.

    jl

    @Wapiti: I think Mattis is doing standard SOP systemic corruption that’s been going on for decades. Mattis has been disappointing on his book tour, acting like this is a normal situation. Let’s compare to another Marine, two time Medial of Honor winner. As I noted a couple of days ago, clear which book will be read longer and is more important, and which will be consigned to very obscure archives.

    War is a Racket by Major General Smedley Butler
    Don’t like some stuff on this site, too conspiratorial, I’ll look for another link, and only repost if can’t find one.

  27. 27.

    Wapiti

    @Cacti: I think “Ambassador” Sondland’s testimony next week might screw with Barr’s plans for Rudy. Sondland is wealthy in his own right and probably not willing to go to jail (or tank his chain of hotels in Blue enclaves) for Trump.

  28. 28.

    SFAW

    @Jay:

    Or a Russian Asset, maybe even a Russian Agent.
    And he is surrounded by others.

    Ten or 20 years ago, that would have been considered a “bad thing” by the Rethug faithful. Today? Not so much. [As evidenced by the “I’d rather be Russian than Democrat” (or whatever) T-shirts. Fucking traitors.]

  29. 29.

    SFAW

    @Wapiti:

    I think “Ambassador” Sondland’s testimony next week might screw with Barr’s plans for Rudy.

    That’s assuming he doesn’t go out for a polonium/Novichok cocktail before testifying, of course.

  31. 31.

    Jay

    @Wapiti:

    “Ambassador” Sondland’s swank hotels have already pulled all references to his ownership, off their websites by Friday.

  32. 32.

    Aleta

    @Wag:
    Don’t forget the real business of the War is buying and selling. –G.R.

    (When I took metal shop I would put quotes from gravity’s rainbow on the assignments (little brass paperweights, candlesticks, …)

  34. 34.

    Duane

    @Jay: Whatever Trumpov is or isn’t, he’s unleashed fucking war on these people. He could have stopped this. It’s a crime what he’s done and he needs to pay.

  39. 39.

    Jay

    @Duane:

    Dolt45 is not alone, the guy I who’s tweet I posted has a bunch of threads up on the Pundits, Politicians, Lobbiests and NGO’s that made all these war crimes possible.

    Some of the FSA guys who joined with the YPG to destroy ISIS, are SAA deserters and rebels, same with some of the Kurds in the YPG. So working alongside the SAA is going to be “awkward”.

    On the other hand, the former FSA, “reformed” ISIL and renamed al-Quida that Turkey is using as foot soldiers, and calling the FSA, are just ISIL 2.0, still murdering, rapeing, looting, torturing, beheading and seeking the establishment of a Caliphinate.

  40. 40.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @Cacti:

    Putin is all smiles.

    Why should he be all smiles? More like cutting off his nose to spite his own face. Some of those ISIL fighters won’t just go to Western Europe. They’ll go to Russia too. He’s an arrogant mad man, just Erdogan

  42. 42.

    Aleta

    I watched that video of t killing journalists, rosie o’donnell (I think), obama …
    It’s very ugly.

    Is it true it was shown at a campaign rally, or was it limited to posting on yt or a pro-t website, but not used ‘officially’?

    Money launderers, black market gun sales, trafficking women who thought they would work as models …I guess you have to expect that people involved in those things have no problem putting out black market campaign ads, lies, and stimulation to cheer violence.

  43. 43.

    jl

    Skipping through and reading transcripts of the Sunday Talkies. My blood pressure prevents me from listening or watching them in real time.
    Face the Nation had Kinzinger (R, Illinois), apparently the kind of semi-lunatic who passes for a ‘moderate’ GOPer in Congress.

    ” MARGARET BRENNAN: ….Does this make you question whether you’re going to support President Trump in 2020?

    REP. KINZINGER: Well, I’m- I’m not going to go there and question whether I’m going to support, but it does, you know- I think the president needs to be aware that in- and I know Republican base voters. I represent both Republicans and Democrats. I have a Republican district. One of the things they loved about Donald Trump is- they’re like he says what he means. He’s tough. He’s taken the fight to ISIS and I’m having a hard time seeing how basically pulling out of Syria- and it’s not just about protecting the Kurds. It’s about getting intel and fighting ISIS. And I don’t see how that’s gonna be a position of strength. So we’ll have to see how 2020 plays out on that. ”
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-representative-adam-kinzinger-on-face-the-nation-october-13-2019/

    So, looks like less insane GOP congresscritters backing off from Trump, sort of kinda.

    Skipping through Tapper, who had some lying gaslighting idiot Cramer (R, ND) on. Cramer is a disgusting loon, but gives a stolid presentation.
    Skipping past Cramer, just too dishonest and disgusting. Tapper pushing back against the worst Cramer lies.

  44. 44.

    FlipYrWhig

    I know we’re not supposed to kink-shame but I pray that I never see what it looks like when Trump and Lindsey Graham publicly turn on each other.

  46. 46.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @Cacti:

    Because he’s a Cold War revanchist looking to even the score.

    So an arrogant mad man who doesn’t care who gets hurt or killed to “even the score”, IOW?

  47. 47.

    mrmoshpotato

    @FlipYrWhig: If it’s as bad as it’s shaping up to be, there will be warnings before.

    “Now what we’re about to show might disturb some people.”

  48. 48.

    JGabriel

    @NotMax:

    Yeah, “as rotten as a jack-o-lantern by Thanksgiving” would painted a much better picture.

    As rotten as last year’s jack-o-lantern on Oct. 30th.

  49. 49.

    Mary G

    @Aleta:
    Twitter says it was shown at a state GOP function in the Trump Miami Hotel attended by both Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Donald Trump. Jr., both claim not to have seen it.

  50. 50.

    Jay

    It was made in Russia,

    It was screened at Maragofuckyourself,

    At a fundraiser for a pro-Dolt45 PAC,

    attended by Bigger Dolt Jr. and Cryptkeeper Conway.

  51. 51.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    FTFNYT: Macabre Video of Fake Trump Shooting Media and Critics Is Shown at His Resort

    Here’s a Boing Boing article with the original video embedded in case anyone’s interested

    The New York Times reported today that a video mashup depicting Trump slaughtering a church packed with his “fake news” enemies, from Barack Obama to the BBC, was shown last week to supporters at one of his Miami resorts. This 1000-view video is surely it. It’s found by fixing the perspective on the oblique screengrab shown by the Times and then reverse image searching it. The Times didn’t include the video in its reportage, as far as I could tell, but it did mention that it was significantly derived from something posted on YouTube.

    It’s an edited clip from the 2014 film Kingsman: The Secret Service

    It’s evidently a scene from Kingsman: The Secret Service with Trump’s head (among others) crudely superimposed on characters from the film. The mashup is incredibly, cringingly dorky— but it’s also a video depicting the president on a killing spree in a church posted on the anniversary of one of America’s most infamous white supremacist church massacres

  52. 52.

    Mary G

    @Aleta: @Mary G: Deets from Market Watch:

    President Donald Trump often refers to the mainstream media as “the enemy of the people,” and in a violent fake video shown at a conference for his supporters at his Trump National Doral resort in Miami last week, he takes matters into his own hands, according to footage obtained by the New York Times NYT, +1.74% .

    American Priority, a pro-Trump group, held the three-day conference, where Donald Trump Jr., former White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis were all scheduled to speak, the Times reported.

    The video shows Trump’s head superimposed on a man who shoots and stabs church parishioners with media logos as heads. The clip looks to have been edited from a scene in the 2014 action-comedy, “Kingsman: The Secret Service.”

    The massacre takes place in the “Church of Fake News” and includes PBS, NPR, Politico, the Washington Post and NBC. Trump also attacks the late Sen. John McCain, stabs Rosie O’Donnell and lights Sen. Bernie Sanders on fire.

    And:

    The organizer of the event denounced the video and told the Times that the clip had been played at the conference as part of a meme exhibit.

    “Content was submitted by third parties and was not associated with or endorsed by the conference in any official capacity,” organizer Alex Phillips said. “American Priority rejects all political violence and aims to promote a healthy dialogue about the preservation of free speech. This matter is under review.”

    Sources told the Times that Donald Trump and his son were unaware of the video and Sanders said she also hadn’t heard of the video until she was contacted.

    “I was there to speak at a prayer breakfast, where I spoke about unity and bringing the country together,” Sanders said. “I wasn’t aware of any video, nor do I support violence of any kind against anyone.”

  53. 53.

    Jay

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:

    It’s a new grift model.

    Most of the ISIL in the camps are from the Middle East, North and West Africa.

    So Wagner, Russian Arms and Trainers will be invited in to defeat the ISIL clones, as it’s pretty clear that the West can’t be trusted.

    They rither back Radical Islamic Jihadists like NATO’s Turkey, fecklees and untrustworthy like the USA, or too small and undermanned like the rest of NATO.

    It’s already working in Niger and Mozambique.

  54. 54.

    jl

    @Mary G: ‘ “Content was submitted by third parties and was not associated with or endorsed by the conference in any official capacity,” organizer Alex Phillips said. ‘

    I guess the conference was just a ‘platform’ and not responsible for any garbage shown or spoken there. Well, I guess if it’s good enough for Facebook.
    What a bunch of assholes. They just showed submissions blind? Either they are lying or grotesquely irresponsible. Or maybe grotesquely irresponsible on purpose.
    What shite.

  55. 55.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @Mary G:

    meme exhibit.

    Why is this even a thing?

    “Content was submitted by third parties and was not associated with or endorsed by the conference in any official capacity,” organizer Alex Phillips said. “American Priority rejects all political violence and aims to promote a healthy dialogue about the preservation of free speech. This matter is under review.”

    Yeah, sure it is. Maybe you should vet content that is going to be shown at your conference ahead of time? Might be a good idea

  56. 56.

    Mary G

    who woulda thought that when they put jared in charge of the middle east and prison reform it would end with freeing all the isis prisoners in syria?— m i t h XI.LXXV (@ManlnTheHoody) October 14, 2019

  57. 57.

    jl

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:” Maybe you should vet content that is going to be shown at your conference ahead of time? Might be a good idea ”

    If you parse it literally, it is non-denial denial. They could have reviewed and figured some BS excuse like their statement would get them off.
    We don’t know what happened. They could have reviewed and figured their vile con of a statement would fly, or they are lying (was it really arms-length third party?) Or they didn’t review the submissions.

    Any way you look it, inexcusable and disgusting.

  58. 58.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @Jay:

    It’s a new grift model.

    It’s called playing god with all of our lives. Who the fuck does Putin think he is? How did he know Trump wouldn’t start WW3 (he still could) when he helped him get elected? I mean JFC, we could be looking at 8C° or more warming within this century or more. Around 12C°, and humans can’t survive; our bodies would no longer be able to use sweat to evaporate heat away and we would die of heat stroke. Fuck these assholes like Putin and Xi. They don’t care about the future of humanity only themselves

    They rither back Radical Islamic Jihadists like NATO’s Turkey, fecklees and untrustworthy like the USA, or too small and undermanned like the rest of NATO.

    Could you rephrase this? I’m not sure what you’re trying to say

  59. 59.

    Mary G

    Trigger warning for violence.

    This is the full murder video – 2:19 minutes. A lot of media are putting a shorter one that is 46-49 seconds. Near the end he gets around to Hillary, which no one has mentioned as far as I can tell.

    5. As much as I hate to post this, given how much people are talking about this story, and that it involves the president's club, his supporters, and an organization that supports him, here's the video in question: pic.twitter.com/qqtllitsIP— Yashar Ali ? (@yashar) October 14, 2019

  60. 60.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @jl:
    It does read that way. To me it doesn’t matter. They’re ultimately responsible for the content they show

  63. 63.

    Aleta

    @Mary G: Thanks.

    @Mary G:

    trigger warning for violence and for attacks on our reps

    (NYT) The video (has) the logo for Trump’s 2020 re-election campaign…
    …
    A person who attended the conference last week took a video of the clip on his phone and had an intermediary send it to a reporter for The Times. Parts of the video were posted on YouTube in 2018….
    …
    The video depicts a scene inside the “Church of Fake News,” where parishioners rise as Trump … walks down the aisle. Many parishioners’ faces have been replaced with the logos of news media organizations, including PBS, NPR, Politico, The Washington Post and NBC.

    Trump stops in the middle of the church, pulls a gun out of his suit jacket pocket and begins a graphic rampage. As the parishioners try to flee, the president fires at them. He shoots Black Lives Matter in the head, and also shoots Vice News.

    Some of those in the church try to apprehend Trump. He fends them off and makes his way toward the altar, knocking over several pews. …

    He strikes the late Arizona senator John McCain in the back of the neck. He hits Rosie O’Donnell in the face and then stabs her in the head. He strikes Representative Maxine Waters. He lights the head of Senator Bernie Sanders on fire.

    He takes Senator Mitt Romney hostage before throwing him to the ground. Then he strikes former President Barack Obama in the back and throws him against a wall.

    Others shown in the video include Mika Brzezinski of MSNBC; former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; former President Bill Clinton; the film producer Harvey Weinstein; and Representative Adam B. Schiff… The clip ends with Trump putting a stake into the head of a person with a CNN logo for a face. Trump then stands on the altar, admiring his rampage, and smiles.

    In a church, reminding us of real life massacres

  65. 65.

    opiejeanne

    @Aleta: True, and what strikes me most about his behavior is the utter misery and chaos he’s sowing, here and abroad. That strikes me as pretty much like what the Anti-Christ would do.

  67. 67.

    Aleta

    This really happened (I had to check):

    Brian Mast @BrianMastFL
    Happy birthday to the US Navy! To the men and women who serve to keep our waters safe, we thank you.

    (posts a photo of a warship)

    Dave Brown @dave_brown24
    That’s the Russian battlecruiser Pyotr Velikiy

    Headline from October 10: Congressman Brian Mast to return donations from Ukrainian businessmen with Giuliani ties

  69. 69.

    TS (the original)

    @Cacti: Will the US ever answer for the crimes of trump in reneging on all previous treaties and agreements?

  70. 70.

    Ruckus

    @Aleta:
    They really, really aren’t too bright. And desperate. Their not so carefully laid plans are total shit. And they aren’t smart enough to fix it after they screwed up the plan to get all the money for making a mockery of the US and destroying all the so called power we thought we had. Someone has the republican party by the balls. Which are in a very strong vise. I’d say that the guy turning the handle is vlad. I wonder how little these low rent goons asked for? Undoubtably a lot less than he was willing to pay. But he is for sure getting his monies worth, to see the world find out that nearly half our country can not be trusted with a bucket of warm spit, let alone an entire country.

  72. 72.

    low-tech cyclist

    @Duane:

    @Jay: Whatever Trumpov is or isn’t, he’s unleashed fucking war on these people. He could have stopped this. It’s a crime what he’s done and he needs to pay.

    This. He should be impeached for this alone, even if none of this other shit was going on.

    Well, actually, this in conjunction with his willingness to betray other allies (e.g. Ukraine), and the all too real possibility that this won’t be the only time he does so in a way that can’t be undone.

  73. 73.

    Ascap_scab

    @Cacti:
    I truly believe Rudy suffers from an undiagnosed case of syphilis. Three wives and god knows how many bimbos at Gracie Mansion plus all those Epstein parties, you know he must have picked up something. Now it’s stage four and the worms have eaten his brain.

    That doesn’t explain Trump, but could explain most of the Washington GOP.

  74. 74.

    low-tech cyclist

    @Aleta:

    This really happened (I had to check):

    Holy shit! I hope we have someone good running against him next year – that’s a major campaign ad all by itself!

  76. 76.

    Matt McIrvin

    It’s going to be so upsetting when they all get away with it and everyone pretends like none of it happened.

  77. 77.

    FlipYrWhig

    Re: the revenge splatter video, I’m not the only one who remembers the media firestorm over a MoveOn video contest that included a submission likening George W. Bush to Hitler, am I? Or over “General Betray-us”? What does it take to get the media interested in shaming the makers and the side they affiliate with when it’s *that* side?

  78. 78.

    SFAW

    @Mary G:

    “Content was submitted by third parties and was not associated with or endorsed by the conference in any official capacity,” organizer Alex Phillips said. “American Priority rejects all political violence and aims to promote a healthy dialogue about the preservation of free speech. This matter is under review.”

    I’m so old, I can remember the shrieking and shrieking of RWMFs when a proposed ad, implying that W was like Hitler, was submitted to MoveOn by a “third party.” Said ad was rejected by MoveOn, but the RWMFs brought it up for awhile after.

    I hope I live long enough to see those motherfuckers to suffer as much as they’ve made the country suffer.

    ETA: Shakes fist ineffectually at FlipYrWhig

  80. 80.

    donnah

    The worst thing about the Trump slaughter video isn’t that it was made, but that Trump loyalists probably cheered as it was shown. And that if challenged, they would say that they wished it was real.

  81. 81.

    Kristine

    @SFAW:

    [As evidenced by the “I’d rather be Russian than Democrat” (or whatever) T-shirts. Fucking traitors.]

    It falls in line with the pro-Confederacy stance of so many of them, though. Deep down, whatever this country is ideally supposed to be about, they’re not for it.

  82. 82.

    Anya

    @Cacti: I became so cynical after Mueller’s investigation turned into a nothing burger so I am not expecting much. If Rod Rosenstein turned into a Trump protector, imagine the length Barr will go to protect Trump. Rudy G. is a vindictive loudmouth, I highly doubt they’ll risk alienating him. I am convinced this investigation will end even with less action than the Mueller report. The three already indicted will face some form of justice but nothing else. No matter how many times Joyce Vance assures us of the indolence and integrity of the line prosecutors, I have zero faith in Barr’s DOJ. When the AJ is openly this corrupt and this committed to making the DOJ Trump’s legal firm, nothing more than token indictments will come out of these investigation

  83. 83.

    Ruckus

    @Mary G:

    just cause they were quiet, turn out to be just as bad.

    Our whole lives, that’s been their point, “Never say the bad parts out loud, because then people won’t recognize what we are doing.”
    WF Buckley seemed like a very smart guy, used big words. Listen to what he used to say when he was on, for example, Charlie Rose. Very good use of big words to say the worst crap. He sounded rational if you didn’t know what the words meant and how he put them together. If you knew the words, scum of the earth. It’s always been like this, “Don’t give away the game till it’s too late for most people to recognize the con.”
    trump would be the perfect con, he’s been practicing his entire life, there’s just one problem, his narcissism doesn’t let him close the deal. He screams the bad parts because he doesn’t understand the con. He wants desperately to make the con work because he’s a true believer in the con, but he’s incapable of doing the long con, because he can’t understand the key to making it work, and that’s not saying the bad parts out loud.

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