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Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

Let’s finish the job.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

Nothing worth doing is easy.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

Infrastructure week. at last.

The GOP couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse with a fist full of 50s.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

You can’t love your country only when you win.

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

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  1. 1.

    trollhattan

    Amateur climber scales replica segment of Trump’s Wall, judges it as meh climbing challenge.

    DS: You think it’s something that a novice climber could handle pretty comfortably?

    PF: I’m a novice climber, and I handled it pretty comfortably. After that we went off and we climbed a bunch of rock climbing routes, and those are all rated, right? I would say it was significantly easier than any of the climbs that we were climbing, and the easier of those was probably, I don’t know, a 5.8. So I’d say it’s easier than a 5.8.

    DS: Okay. If you had to put a number on it, where might that fall?

    PF: I don’t know, 5.6, 5.7. I don’t actually know the American ranking system that well. Most of my climbing has been in the UK. What I am confident saying is that it’s easier than 5.8s that we climbed.

    DS: Did you feel that a non-climber could have made their way up?

    PF: Yes. I wasn’t using my rock climbing training, particularly. Other than the training to trust the rope and not be too afraid of the height. But that is an advantage that you wouldn’t have without the rope.

    DS: Even if you accepted the premise that the border wall is something worth spending money on, how would you assess the specific execution of it?

    PF: Well, I would definitely take issue with that premise [laughing]. I’m sure that, not I really want to—does it make it less fun if I don’t express an opinion on that? I’d rather engage with the premise than just accept it.

  5. 5.

    Marcopolo

    Reupping J R in WV’s comment at the tail end of the HRC thread that folks who are repulsed/ disgusted/taken aback by Tulsi Gabbard might enjoy throwing a little monetary shade at her by donating to her 2020 primary opponent: Kai Kahele.

  7. 7.

    prostratedragon

    Like I said, Frank Booth with a helium inhaler — because he thinks it makes him more cool.

  8. 8.

    debbie

    Heh. While listening to the news, I had a thought that I hoped a journalist at the next Copter Chat would yell out, “Hey, Mr. Germaphobe, how’s all that blood on your hands working out for you?”

  9. 9.

    ByRookorbyCrook

    @NotMax: Champagne at the Bid
    I can not believe the ROI that Vlad has had for helping Cheeto Benito. He is the git that keeps on gitting.

  10. 10.

    Butter emails!!!

    You’d think some of Putin’s useful idiots and assets would buy a clue and not rush like flies to road apples any and every time one of their ilk is called out.

  11. 11.

    trnc

    I’m not a fan of Danziger’s style (to the extent he has one), but I appreciate that he’s popular and seems to more or less hold my political views.

  14. 14.

    prostratedragon

    “I don’t think he knows what he’s doing.” — Brett McGurk, interview with Chuck Todd.

    This would be a hilarious addition to standard New Yorker cartoon captions, except that McGurk is talking about some of the ways in which TFG’s actions in Syria and with Erdogan are both a strategic disaster in the making for U.S., and a humanitarian disaster for the Kurds and others in the way.

    “So President Erdogan is heading to Russia to see president Putin in four days and I suspect they already have lines on a map that they’ve divvied up and the president of the United States is pretty much irrelevant here,” he noted. “And our influence is just rapidly receding as we leave our bases and blow them up or hand them to the Russians. So our ability to influence this situation is extremely limited.”

    “And it is deeply troubling when President Erdoğan announces to the world, as he did again today, that he plans to clean out this entire area and repopulate it with two to three million people, as Richard just reported. And United States appears now to have ratified this plan,” McGurk said. “I don’t think Trump understands any of this. I don’t think he knows what he’s doing. I think diplomats are trying to scramble to buy some time in what has been a cascading crisis with Americans in harm’s way.”

    Our glorification of oafish clowns will be the end of us.

  15. 15.

    Elizabelle

    I really don’t like seeing Trump, even in cartoon form, on the Friday night post. Enough of seeing his traitorous mug.

  17. 17.

    Cacti

    I kind of wonder what HRC’s motive was for dropping a bomb like that on Tulsi Gabbard, what with Gabbard polling less than half the margin of error at any given time.

    Makes me think she knows something, and is getting it out there preemptively before TG suddenly starts getting lots of dark money from nowhere. Or maybe she’s preempting TG’s inevitable third party run, based on feigned indignation of unfair treatment. She was already tipping her hand on that score before the last debate.

    Maybe a bit of both?

  18. 18.

    piratedan

    @lollipopguild: not gonna happen as long as they faithfully return GOP senators to the fold….. although I could almost expect an Alaska for Alaskan’s campaign where they classify all the natives as interlopers and illegals because of “reasons”….

  20. 20.

    Mary G

    @Cacti: It’s not the “Deep State” as the Republicans see it, but I can imagine an intelligence professional getting frustrated that the bills to secure our elections are in Moscow Mitch’s trashbasket, and deciding to send a little bird to Hillary.

  21. 21.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @prostratedragon:

    I don’t think Trump understands any of this. I don’t think he knows what he’s doing.

    He doesn’t, really, but he also doesn’t care. Erdogan wants to commit genocide on some brown people. Trump wants to commit genocide on some brown people. He stopped making American troops defend an entire race of brown people from being killed by a petty dictator. It legitimately baffles him that anyone sees anything in that sentence as bad.

  22. 22.

    hells littlest angel

    “We’ve taken control of the oil” Trump tells reporters in the Oval.

    I guess Putin has given him a Russian passport.

  25. 25.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @hells littlest angel:

    “We’ve taken control of the oil” Trump tells reporters in the Oval.

    Seriously, look at him. He’s casting around for what people actually are upset about. It makes no sense to him that it would be the genocide. He’s trying to remind (lie to) us about the important things.

  26. 26.

    J R in WV

    @Marcopolo:

    Reupping J R in WV’s comment at the tail end of the HRC thread that folks who are repulsed/ disgusted/taken aback by Tulsi Gabbard might enjoy throwing a little monetary shade at her by donating to her 2020 primary opponent: Kai Kahele.

    Hey, thanks for repeating that idea… I felt better after kicking in a little bit.

    When I get fundraising calls from committees and organizations, I tell them first how many orgs we support monthly (Planned Parenthood, ACLU, SPLC, Eric Holder’s anti-gerrymandering group, a couple of others) , and then tell them I mostly support individual (liberal Democratic) candidates in specific races (mostly that we might flip!). Then I thank them politely for the fund raising work they’re doing, wish them luck, and say goodbye. Mostly.

  27. 27.

    Mary G

    The unthinkable has come true according to the RCP polling averages:

    Trump Favorability Ratings
    Favorable 40.7%
    Unfavorable 55.3%
    Unfavorable +14.6

    Pelosi Favorability Ratings
    Favorable 39.2%
    Unfavorable 49.8%
    Unfavorable +10.6

    I got all excited earlier this year when he caught up to her and they were tied at 12% unfavorable, but now he’s going up and she’s going down. This is very rare.

  30. 30.

    trollhattan

    Somehow, the ATF is still allowed to do their job in this administration. I expect changes forthwith.

    A Nevada man has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Sacramento on charges that he sold dozens of firearms in California, including weapons that were later seized by law enforcement as far away as Chiapas, Mexico.

    Gary Keith Osterhout, a Sparks, Nevada, man who formerly lived in Tracy, was charged in a six-count indictment that resulted in federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents seizing nearly 500 weapons from him.

    The case began with the ATF and Sacramento Police Department jointly investigating guns being purchased by a south Sacramento gang. Their efforts led them back to Osterhout as having originally sold one of the weapons, authorities say. Osterhout could not be reached for comment, but court documents say he sold 45 weapons to undercover buyers – 35 of them in roadside sales from his car in Truckee and Emigrant Gap – as part of an illegal firearms dealing business he operated by buying weapons at gun shows in Reno or online and reselling them at a profit.

    Court documents say that undercover buyers purchased 45 weapons from Osterhout from May through November 2018 at buys in Truckee, Emigrant Gap, Reno and Verdi, Nevada, and that authorities seized another 436 weapons from his home.

    Osterhout first came to the ATF’s attention after he purchased a firearm from a federal firearms license dealer and it later ended up being sold by a convicted felon during an undercover buy operation.

    “This transaction took place 31 days after Osterhout lawfully purchased the firearm,” according to a search warrant affidavit by ATF Special Agent Mark Giacomantonio. “I subsequently reviewed firearm purchase records for Osterhout, which revealed that Osterhout has been the initial purchaser on at least 14 firearms that have been recovered by law enforcement as part of criminal investigation(s).”

  34. 34.

    Mary G

    French President Macron, whose country has special forces in Syria as part of the anti-ISIS coalition, said Friday that he learned of Trump's retreat from Syria by tweet."Like everyone else, I learned by tweet that the US decided to withdraw its troops."https://t.co/3fItsUGQ5q— Polly Sigh (@dcpoll) October 18, 2019

    Never heard of this publication and I kind of hope it’s untrue:

  39. 39.

    piratedan

    i sit and wonder, if our worst fears about what has transpired come true, and by that I mean that one of our political parties have sold themselves out to a foreign entity in exchange of being able to execute their political agenda and subverting 200+ years of Democracy (more or less), just how ludicrous its going to be in the media, if all of this comes to light and the players that we’ve long suspected to have been acting in bad faith are proven to have done so in regards to denying people their right to vote, subverting local elections local, state and nationally and packed the courts in order to make them a partisan extension of their agenda to extend far beyond the elections themselves…How is it that these people that have been in the wrong, for so long and so egregiously, are forced to spin that they’ve been carrying water for traitors, people with no more moral and ethical compass other than what’s in it for me?

    I shudder at the thought of the long slog that will be needed to remove this shit from our discourse/society/everyday lives and how to keep from surrendering to my outrage at what they have done, in seeking not only punishment but retribution. I hate feeling this angry and pissed off all of the time and there’s a part of me that wants to round all of these fuckers up and put them into these ICE detention camps and just let them sit there…. waiting for council, separated from their loved ones and any outside news, pondering their fate.

  41. 41.

    marklar

    Nursery Crimes:

    Little Grab Muff Guy,
    In love with Turkish Tough Guy,
    Betraying the Kurds
    In the way.
    Along came a Speaker,
    Showed him who was weaker
    and will bring him to Judgement Day.

  42. 42.

    Rms

    @trollhattan: for comparison. I’m 62 years old and I climb 5.12 in the gym and climb a little less than that in Yosemite. I think trump needs that moot with gators then we can hear from the people who hunt gators bare handed for fun and gator-tots.

  43. 43.

    Kathleen

    @Cacti: I’ve seen speculation on The Twitters that Harris dropped in polling after Gabbard piled on her at the second (?) debate and that Gabbard was Putin’s designated rodent fornicator.

    Also, Wired’s summary of Senate Intelligence Report:
    https://www.wired.com/story/russias-disinformation-war-is-just-getting-started/?bxid=5be9d8ac3f92a40469e7a218&cndid=24400595&esrc=bounceX&source=EDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ&utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_content=B&utm_mailing=WIR_Daily_100919&utm_medium=email&utm_source=nl&utm_term=list1_p4

  44. 44.

    Kathleen

    @piratedan: I think we’re there. Fortunately we still have journalists who are doing excellent work. We also have too many (NYT political reporters) who have been engaged to pimp propatainment for the regime. My framing is over simplified but it explains why certain actors are behaving they way they are. I’ll include AMessNBC in there as well. I’ve been saying for the past 3 years there are forces who want to destroy the Democratic party who, like it or not. are the last line of defense against fascism. It’s that simple. Now ask yourself why Dems are treated the way there are in the media and why the Sanders and the Michael Moores (who constantly drag Democrats) are constantly softballed on TV talk shows.

    That being said we are not powerless. I’m always thinking about African Americans particularly in the South who endured fascism, terrorism, suppression, beatings, rapes, and lynchings for hundreds of years. We white people are just scratching the surface of comprehending what they’ve known for centuries. They have not been defeated and we don’t have to accept defeat either.

  45. 45.

    germy

    @Aziz, light!:

    I hope Baud returns.

    Every thread, someone asks about Baud, but I wonder what happened to Ruemara (spelling?) Always had great comments and thoughts to share.

  47. 47.

    Ken

    @Cacti:

    dropping a bomb like that on Tulsi Gabbard

    Clinton didn’t name anyone, just said “she”. Why does everyone immediately leap to the conclusion that Clinton meant Gabbard? I mean, I see why Gabbard did, she knows exactly who the Russians are aiding, but for all anyone else knows it might be Warren or Harris.

  49. 49.

    Jay

    @Ken:

    Putting aside whatever you think of Hillary Clinton, it’s undeniable that Russia views Tulsi Gabbard as a potentially valuable asset. The Russian Embassy has literally tweeted in defense of Tulsi, because she parrots Russian propaganda about Assad’s use of chemical weapons. https://t.co/5MC5vSuPwp— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) October 18, 2019

    Everybody knows who Russia is backing this go around as they are using the same bots, trolls and networks identified since 2016 that have not been removed by social media.

  51. 51.

    TS (the original)

    Listening to Rep Hakeem Jeffries on Chris Hayes show. Calling the GOP members in the house as to who they are. Speaking as to putting country before party & before self.

    I don’t know how one gets this message through to those 40% who approve of what trump is doing – all I can think of – they like the wall & they like trump hitting on those whose skin is not white – Is this really 40% of the US population?

  52. 52.

    Ken

    @trollhattan: @Jay: What are you two babbling about? I heard Trump himself tried to climb a replica of his wall and couldn’t. If the most physically fit[*] President in history couldn’t do it, you can’t tell me those amateurs could.

    [*] Reportedly. Probably self-reportedly.

  55. 55.

    Ken

    @Jay: You know, when I read that Brett McGurk quote above, I wondered how long those putative lines would last. With Russian backing, Syrian-Kurdish forces (and why not the Armenians too) could probably set up their own “security buffer zone”, but it wouldn’t be on the Syrian side of the border.

  57. 57.

    Martin

    @trollhattan: So, most of the guys that come trim our trees can climb a tree without gaffs, so they’d have no problem climbing that wall so long as they had a harness and the right shoes. Pretty sure every one of them, or a recent relative, came across the southern border.

    For those that haven’t done it, the harness hooks around the vertical element, lean back and you create a lever which puts force into your legs forcing your feet against the vertical element. So long as you have enough friction between your shoes and the vertical element, you’ll stay there. Periodically shift your weight, scooch the harness up, and just climb upward.

    Similar technique here. This person is using their arms instead of a harness to create the lever, and hooks a loop of rope or whatever around his feet so he can increase the surface area against the tree in order to improve the friction so his feet don’t slip. A heavy rubber strap (pretty common in moving kits) would work quite nicely. $2 each off Amazon. A metal beam is a bit slipperier, but that’s easy to address as well – surf wax, etc.

    Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.

    It’s just sitting there. It’s going to be trivial to defeat.

  58. 58.

    Mary G

    I know you all will be surprised, but Tulsi’s on Tucker Failson’s show right now dissing Hillary.

    Update:

    At 7:35 pm, it was reported that Tulsi Gabbard was over an hour late for a press event in Iowa and that her aides weren't telling people what was going on.She just went live on Tucker Carlson's show. pic.twitter.com/xghHURSu10— jordan (@JordanUhl) October 19, 2019

  59. 59.

    Kent

    @Cacti:

    I kind of wonder what HRC’s motive was for dropping a bomb like that on Tulsi Gabbard, what with Gabbard polling less than half the margin of error at any given time.

    Makes me think she knows something, and is getting it out there preemptively before TG suddenly starts getting lots of dark money from nowhere. Or maybe she’s preempting TG’s inevitable third party run, based on feigned indignation of unfair treatment. She was already tipping her hand on that score before the last debate.

    Maybe a bit of both?

    If Clinton is anything at all it is EXTREMELY cautious and thorough when it comes to this sort of thing. I think there is zero chance she is just doing the GOP thing of flinging shit at the wall to see what sticks. She must know something and is pretty damn sure about it. That doesn’t go to her motives but she definitely knows something.

    As to why now? I’m guessing that Clinton is fresh out of fucks to give when it comes to being polite about Russian meddling in our elections and figures at this point there is really really no reason to keep the gloves on.

  62. 62.

    TS (the original)

    @Cacti: Sec Clinton did not mention anyone by name – just she . The guilt of Tulsi Gabbard then came forward

  63. 63.

    Marcopolo

    @Duane: Saw your reply. I am aware of many of the schemes/tactics (but not all) that folks use to knock people off voter roles. But it is because I live in St Louis that I was curious about the specifics of your situation. Voter roll management can happen at either the state or county level & I haven’t experienced anything like what you are describing where I live.

    Sadly, I think we are moving to a time/place where in a lot of states you’ll just have to regularly check each election to see if you are registered to vote prior to the voter registration deadlines. Which, obviously, would be a burden falling the hardest on lower income/POC/ESL folks.

  65. 65.

    JWR

    @Jay: Trump’s babbling yesterday about this “cease-fire”, which EVERYBODY! as been attempting to put together for the LAST 10 YEARS! was epic. (Well, epic for Trump’s “mind”, anyway, such as it is.)

  66. 66.

    TS (the original)

    @jk: He did just call Pence a contestant on the Apprentice trying to please the boss.

    Edit: in relation to the speech about the cease fire in Syria.

  67. 67.

    Cacti

    @TS (the original):

    Sec Clinton did not mention anyone by name – just she . The guilt of Tulsi Gabbard then came forward

    I noticed that also.

    How does the expression go? Hit dogs holler.

    For some reason, Amy Klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren, and Kamala Harris didn’t read anything into it. ;-)

  68. 68.

    Nelle

    @Cacti: I’m sort of amazed at the billboards for Tulsi here in Sea Moines, plus yard signs. Yet at the big steak fry last month, she had a smaller support group than most candidates. There’s money there somewhere.

  69. 69.

    Jeffro

    @chopper: @Ceci n est pas mon nym: It’s “wait with bated breath”, folks.

    Hey, didn’t John Kasich call for trumpov’s impeachment earlier today? Why is THAT not major news? “Republicans in Disarray!” Oh wait, I know why…never mind…

  70. 70.

    Marcopolo

    @J R in WV: I’m also giving a regular small monthly donation to PP & the ACLU. I’m also doing Fair Fight 2020, Vote Riders, EarthJustice, and a couple folks who I got to know working on their near miss state lege campaigns in 2018 who are back in it for 2020. I feel blessed to be able to fit this into my budget. I know a lot of folks who don’t have the flexibility.

    In all honesty, if you’d asked me about doing recurring monthly donations before Trump became Prez I would have probably argued against them & instead for making discretionary donations for specific reasons at specified times. Now my perspective is that the fight for a better more just & equitable world is an ongoing fight not particularly tied, say, to election cycles and there are folks making calls, knocking doors, registering voters, filing lawsuits, etc… all the time & small ongoing contributions to groups doing this important work make that possible.

    Anyways that’s my thinking on how to play a small role in making our world a better place & put it on autopilot.

  72. 72.

    Gin & Tonic

    @Jeffro:

    It’s “wait with bated breath”, folks.

    Um, I’m pretty darn sure they know that, just having a little fun.

  73. 73.

    ruemara

    *sigh* I mis-booked my room dates and get to spend the night at the airport. I am going to be a very tired conference booth bunny. And how is everyone else’s night going?

  74. 74.

    Gin & Tonic

    CNN reporting that the State Dept guy who testified the other day, George Kent, testified that Rudy pushed hard to get Viktor Shokin a visa to enter the US. Shokin is the original corrupt Prosecutor General whom everybody wanted removed. State refused to grant him a visa, so Rudy had the White House intercede. Kudos to State, because it was never granted.

  75. 75.

    Gin & Tonic

    Two news headlines on my phone.

    Reuters: Clinton email probe finds no deliberate mishandling of classified information.

    Fox News: State Department report on Clinton emails finds hundreds of violations, dozens of individuals at fault.

  76. 76.

    TS (the original)

    @Gin & Tonic: Rachel discussing it on her show. How any one person can follow ALL of the illegal aspects of this administration seems just not possible. Rachel has obviously been investigating the charges against Rudi’s friends via the SDNY and how that ties into other things Rudi has been doing. This seems like the tip of the iceberg for the illegalities of trump & associates (no way are they friends). I’m wondering when Rick Perry will decide to save his a…

  82. 82.

    cokane

    why is this blog credulously repeating un-verified statements of an anonymous twitter account? i mean, if there’s legitimate reporting to back up what the guy is saying, post that instead, that would amplify the people who actually do the labor of finding things out. And it’d be more trustworthy for the readers here. And it’s actually inform the readers here who to seek out if they want to learn more.

  83. 83.

    Chris T.

    @Aleta:

    the electricity came back, heat and light returned, unusually happy tonight.

    We miss the simple things when PG&E shuts it all off. :-)

    (I know, you’re on the other coast. Just … recent bad memories!)

  99. 99.

    Duane

    @TS (the original): All the illegal aspects of this administration is why Truth and Reconciliation hearings will be necessary. The criminality of the Republican Party, from top to bottom, is overwhelming. Adam said he’d post about it. Looking forward to that.

  102. 102.

    J R in WV

    @Marcopolo:

    Now my perspective is that the fight for a better more just & equitable world is an ongoing fight not particularly tied, say, to election cycles and there are folks making calls, knocking doors, registering voters, filing lawsuits, etc… all the time & small ongoing contributions to groups doing this important work make that possible.

    Totally agree with this!

    We joined the ACLU the day after the election November 2016. I was tickled to meet my only WV cousin at the grocery store, we showed each other our ACLU membership cards. Also joined the Southern Poverty Law Center, both with monthly donations. Have been Planned Parenthood contributors for a long time now!

    Have been contributing to and working for liberal Democratic candidates for years, intensified that work and donations after the election in 2016. Stolen votes!! Hate the RWNJs!

  106. 106.

    J R in WV

    @Mary G:

    Michael Moore is endorsing Wilmer.

    Fuck that rat bastard for not endorsing a real Democratic candidate!! Have never admired Michael Moore, always thought he was a prick Libertarian bastard.

  107. 107.

    Sebastian

    Have the closed DoS hearings been discussed? Didn’t see a post but things are happening so fast.

    Perry resigned, he’ll probably testify. Where’s Rudy? Pompeo is silent AF, too.

  108. 108.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Jeffro: Recalibrate your humor meter and reread the thread for more jokes along those lines, you missed some.

    I came THIS close to writing a fictitious etymology for my version, something along the lines of an old fishing technique using bait to weigh down the nets.

  109. 109.

    JWR

    @Mary G:

    Michael Moore is endorsing Wilmer.

    Nooo! But srsly, I heard an interview MM did on Democracy Now! some time ago, and when it came time to talk about 2016, he gave a little chuckle and said something to the effect of “don’t blame me, I voted for Bernie!” Last I checked, Moore voted in Michigan? So hell yes I’m blaming him!

  114. 114.

    Bill Arnold

    @Cacti:

    Or maybe she’s preempting TG’s inevitable third party run, based on feigned indignation of unfair treatment. She was already tipping her hand on that score before the last debate.

    I read it that way too, shiving/spiking Tulsi G’s “independent” run.
    Tulsi the herb (holy basil – Ocimum tenuiflorum (synonym Ocimum sanctum)) is OK
    Tulsi – Ocimum sanctum: A herb for all reasons (2014 Oct-Dec)

  117. 117.

    Mary G

    @Anya: I’m impressed with Ayanna Pressley – the fourth “Squad” member who dares to be the cheese that stands alone.

    (Vox) Pressley isn’t endorsing anyone at this time. “Ayanna knows that taking back the White House in 2020 is a top priority, and she is working every day to hold this administration accountable and build a bold, diverse movement that will help propel Democrats to victory up and down the ballot,” her spokesperson said.

    Smart to wait and see. Also Rashida Tlaib is backing off, too.

  119. 119.

    Anya

    @Mary G: I find Ayanna Pressley one of the most impressive newcomers. She’s so measured and so smart and she doesn’t get involved in unnecessary twitter feuds.

  121. 121.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Doesn’t matter at this point. Quisli Gabbardova will slip silently off into the outer dorkness; and once Wilmer done as much as he can to ratfuck the Democratic Party, his Russian cash-spigot will be shut off & a little voice from the banks of the Moskva will encourage him to drop out for the sake of his health – & then Moore will endorse Quisli.

  122. 122.

    Ryan

    We’re not occupational forces, nor are we mercenaries. “We’ve taken the oil” is the most dishonorable, disqualifying statement any American preznit could say to qualify himself for that office.

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