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Big-Boned Gal (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  October 26, 201912:53 pm| 66 Comments

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Her name is Cinderblock, and she has a personal trainer to encourage her:

But she wants no part of this working out bullshit. As many people have said on Twitter, “Je suis Cinderblock!”

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  1. 1.

    Miss Bianca

    October 26, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    I laughed my ass off when I saw that yesterday. Chonky Kitty just ain’t havin’ it!

  2. 2.

    Yutsano

    October 26, 2019 at 1:02 pm

    She’s obviously building up her left paw to enact swift and mighty justice upon all who have wronged her. That and hello it’s in WATER people!

  3. 3.

    raven

    October 26, 2019 at 1:06 pm

    BJ, come for the politics stay for the fat cats.

  4. 4.

    Betty Cracker

    October 26, 2019 at 1:07 pm

    @Yutsano: I guess they make them walk in the water so they won’t lay down? Poor kitty.

  5. 5.

    daryljfontaine

    October 26, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    @Betty Cracker: It takes the weight off their legs to have them in a partial float. Source: local vet has a whole therapy wing.

    D

  6. 6.

    chris

    October 26, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I read somewhere that the water, once she gets sort of used to it, will be chest deep. That both supports the chonk and adds resistance to the exercise.

    ETA: Heh, see above

  7. 7.

    Yutsano

    October 26, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    @Betty Cracker: @chris: I mean I do aquatherapy myself but I’m not a cat. I happen to love water and honestly working on a treadmill under water is trippy and fun. Maybe it’s her first session and she just wasn’t even close to used to it yet.

  8. 8.

    Cheryl Rofer

    October 26, 2019 at 1:17 pm

    She finally walking

    And complaining

    A update on Cinderblock she finally walking pic.twitter.com/P6VsrKKd4L

    — Oregon I.T. Not IT⚾ (@OregonProgress) October 26, 2019

  9. 9.

    debbie

    October 26, 2019 at 1:22 pm

    The only thing I’m hearing Cinderblock say is, “I am going to kill you, human.”

  10. 10.

    germy

    October 26, 2019 at 1:23 pm

    I don’t know.

    I’m usually the one to find cats a rich source of humor, but I find this sad.

    Cat didn’t get this fat on her own. She was overfed by a human, probably high-starch, low-protein food inappropriate for a cat.

    So now she’s dangerously obese and is being tortured, forced to march in a shallow pool.

    I hope she gets healthy, and I’d like to see a video of the idiot who overfed her. Perhaps in a dunk tank.

  11. 11.

    sukabi

    October 26, 2019 at 1:27 pm

    Once Cinderblock gets svelte someone better change her name.

    So now we know where drumpf got his “windmills kill birds” …and it’s ALWAYS about Russia with him.

    Russian scientists tracking migrating eagles were forced to start a crowdfunding campaign after their birds wandered into Iran and foreign text messages from their tracking devices depleted the project’s budget.

    Scientists rang the alarm earlier this month when several endangered steppe eagles transmitting coordinates via Russian mobile numbers wandered into the roaming zone after spending the summer in an area without mobile coverage.

    …..

    Steppe eagles breed in southern Russia and Kazakhstan, and spend their winter in Africa and India.

    They have experienced rapid decline due to the spread of farming land across their territory and are vulnerable to wind turbines, according to Bird Life International.

  12. 12.

    MattF

    October 26, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    @sukabi: This is one of the elements in Charlie Stross’s Creative Writing Challenge.

  13. 13.

    Aleta

    October 26, 2019 at 1:44 pm

    Speaking of dangers to birds, does anyone know whether reflective metal roofs cause harm to them? My partner wants to get a metal roof so the roof won’t need raking in the winter. (We rake snow off the edge of the asphalt shingle roof to prevent ice dams.) We were thinking of gavalune (which is not painted with a color). Thinking if it reflected clouds and sky colors that might be interesting.

    Cat question: since snow sometimes slides off a metal roof all at once (my friend got buried once), I began to wonder about possible danger to any cats walking around the foundation edge, as they do in the winter to stay out of drifts.

  14. 14.

    Barbara

    October 26, 2019 at 1:55 pm

    @Aleta: I would be more worried about icicles (known to be risky) but you should definitely try to keep your roof clear.

  15. 15.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 26, 2019 at 1:55 pm

    Haha I saw all that! There was also a mini-pile-on by people accusing the whole thing of being fatphobic fat-shaming, which is ridiculous, but you can find all types on Twitter.

  16. 16.

    Mary G

    October 26, 2019 at 2:02 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: The poster says he got a ton of shit from rightwingers for using the pronoun “they” in the first post. Don’t these people have lives?

  17. 17.

    Betty Cracker

    October 26, 2019 at 2:09 pm

    @sukabi: She can be “Slenderblock!” ?

    Fascinating that the turbines vs birds thing that Trump is obsessed with also came from Russia. I’ve thought about Pelosi’s “all roads lead to Russia” comment a lot. I assume she knows many facts investigators found that haven’t been made public. And she chose to caption the iconic photo of her confrontation with Trump with that statement. Hmmm.

  18. 18.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 26, 2019 at 2:10 pm

    Speaking of which, the other day I caught about 15 minutes of an episode of “Mork and Mindy”. My god, was that show bad!

    And now back to fat cat discussions.

  19. 19.

    OzarkHillbilly

    October 26, 2019 at 2:12 pm

    @Aleta: They put what I call “snow dams” 1 to 2 feet up from the edge of a metal roof specifically to keep it from all sliding off at once (which can do lots of damage to a house) As far as I know metal roofs have no deleterious effects on birds.

  20. 20.

    Kelly

    October 26, 2019 at 2:12 pm

    @Aleta: Our barn when I was growing up had a plain galvanized steel roof and I didn’t see any birds crashing into it. The shiney weathers away in a few years. You may want it installed with a small air gap between the metal and the structure to prevent ice dams.

  21. 21.

    germy

    October 26, 2019 at 2:12 pm

    Hmm…

    SCOOP: Company with ties to Trump’s brother Robert awarded $33 million government contract, via @partlowj t.co/353WueIZPB— Rosalind Helderman (@PostRoz) October 26, 2019

  22. 22.

    OzarkHillbilly

    October 26, 2019 at 2:13 pm

    @germy: Not necessarily. A friend of mine had a cat that was as big and round as a basketball. IIRC it had thyroid problems.

  23. 23.

    OzarkHillbilly

    October 26, 2019 at 2:15 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Wind turbines are known to kill birds and bats. There are a number of studies underway to reduce the numbers killed.

  24. 24.

    Sab

    October 26, 2019 at 2:20 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: I just showed this to my Shadow as an object lesson on gluttony. Being a cat, she couldn’t see it, but she sure could hear the feline outrage. She shares it.

  25. 25.

    Kelly

    October 26, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Windows kill many times more birds than wind turbines. Of course there are many more windows than wind turbines.

  26. 26.

    zhena gogolia

    October 26, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    We had three cats, two sisters and a brother. They all got the same food. The brother was obese but the sisters weren’t. (Not as obese as Cinderblock, but still.)

    I think people are just loving on Cinderblock and hoping she can lose some weight. She’s very cute and such a cat in her attitude.

  27. 27.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 26, 2019 at 2:40 pm

    @Betty Cracker: IIRC, Trump’s wind turbine obsession started after a plan to build a wind farm offshore near one of his golf courses in Scotland, which he thinks would ruin the view.

  28. 28.

    laura

    October 26, 2019 at 2:44 pm

    I still have a massive crush on chonky Mr. B. but I hope that this poor unhappy queen tubby gets into a fitter, trimmer, happier state.

  29. 29.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 26, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    @Mary G: I wonder that all the time. Don’t they have anything to do? Doesn’t Trump have a job?

    Or as my unsympathetic mother used to say, that should be the worst thing that ever happens to them.

  30. 30.

    trollhattan

    October 26, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    @germy:
    Name’s not Hunter, so it’s cool.

  31. 31.

    germy

    October 26, 2019 at 2:48 pm

    Cat Nun pic.twitter.com/LKZG6GN4j0
    — 41 Strange (@41Strange) October 25, 2019

  32. 32.

    Betty Cracker

    October 26, 2019 at 2:58 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: Yeah, but if Trump gave a shit about birds, he’d show other signs of it, such as not putting oil lobbyists in charge of the EPA or maybe encouraging people to keep their cats indoors. It’s about propping up fossil fuels, IMO, and maybe a grudge about the view at his stupid resort, as someone mentioned upthread.

  33. 33.

    Amir Khalid

    October 26, 2019 at 2:59 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:
    Was this from before or after Mork and Mindy got married?

  34. 34.

    Cheryl Rofer

    October 26, 2019 at 3:01 pm

    @Sab: My guys are remarkable uninterested in the meows.

  35. 35.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 26, 2019 at 3:02 pm

    I’m reading Graham Moore’s The Last Days of Night, the novel that’s the basis for the Current Wars movie I’m seeing ads for. It’s about the legal battle between Edison and Westinghouse over the future of electricity with Tesla thrown in for good measure. I want you to know that Tesla is one weird dude. When he first began working for Westinghouse, he was invited to dinner at Westinghouse’s home. As they were all shaking hands, one of Mrs. Westinghouse’s hairs got on Tesla’s sleeve and he fled the house, never to come back.

  36. 36.

    J R in WV

    October 26, 2019 at 3:04 pm

    We had a rescue cat, was tiny when Wife pulled her out of a bramble patch, Vet told us she was 6 month old and tiny from lack of food. She wound up near 20 pounds and spherical. We put her on a part-pumpkin diet so she would still feel full on a restricted diet.

    She’s about 14 pounds now, named Punkin for being rounder in her youth. We feed her in the bathroom, all alone and don’t let her out until all the other critters’ food is eaten or picked up. Black and dark brown tortie, but very affectionate.

  37. 37.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 26, 2019 at 3:04 pm

    @Amir Khalid: before—it wasn’t THAT bad! Mork fell in with a group of white supremacists, but Mindy was able to resolve it in between commercial breaks. She revealed that her her grandmother came over from Warsaw when Mork went out to get a Polish six-pack—“four beers!”

    Still better than “Mrs. Doubtfire” though.

  38. 38.

    germy

    October 26, 2019 at 3:09 pm

    Scrappy underdog "Great Britain" nearly upsets heavily favored rugby powerhouse Tonga in closely contested match, losing by only 6-14.— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) October 26, 2019

  39. 39.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 26, 2019 at 3:14 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: so many of those old shows don’t hold up– I caught a rerun of LA Law last year and after five minutes I was thinking “I used to watch this shit, every week”. I will say for latter day Mork and Mindy, Jonathan Winters was fucking brilliant, but I’m not gonna look for any of those on youtube so the memory will remain.

    a couple of weeks ago, I looked up Phil Hartman’s legendary “Reagan is secretly a brilliant mastermind!” sketch (for a discussion here), and damn me if, true to SNL form, it din’t go on a minute too long and lean too heavily on a then popular cast member doing an impression (Carvey as Jimmy Stewart)

  40. 40.

    Another Scott

    October 26, 2019 at 3:15 pm

    Calling Dick Mayhew – whatever happened to that guy? Charles Gaba at ACASignups.net – Prepare for REVERSE Silver Loading in 2020.

    (via LOLGOP)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  41. 41.

    JPL

    October 26, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    @Kelly: True. I wonder how many birds trump’s hotels have killed.

  42. 42.

    rikyrah

    October 26, 2019 at 3:21 pm

    I had no idea pet personal trainers were a thing.
    ??? ?? for Cinderblock

  43. 43.

    zhena gogolia

    October 26, 2019 at 3:23 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    It’s still brilliant. Phil Hartman was such a terrible loss.

  44. 44.

    Peale

    October 26, 2019 at 3:23 pm

    @JPL: exactly. Go into any Trump resort bar, and half the crowd is bragging about how many birdies they shot that afternoon.

  45. 45.

    Another Scott

    October 26, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    Wonkette: Anti-immigrant woman laughed at by green-shirt-guy arrested for identity theft.

    Nobodycouldhavepredicted…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  46. 46.

    catclub

    October 26, 2019 at 3:28 pm

    @germy: more relevant: Amazon web services was awarded a big DOD data contract. Trump complained about it, they re-competed it, and surprise! AWS did not win. Since that is owned by Bezos, who also owns the WAPO.

  47. 47.

    Marcopolo

    October 26, 2019 at 3:33 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: You know the biggest killer of birds—cats. About 4 billion a year (google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1873871). Surprised no ones mentioned it considering the topic of the thread. Though I think the chonky ones do less of the murdering since they aren’t in prime physical condition. But, hey, unlike wind turbines at least cats don’t cause cancer, right?

    PS Upon rereading my comment I want to make clear I am passing no moral judgement on cats being cats.

  48. 48.

    divF

    October 26, 2019 at 3:34 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:
    Many things in mass popular culture sucked in the 70s (which actually started on August 9, 1974) – network TV, prog rock, haircuts, fashions, brown and orange as a popular color combination (they didn’t get rid of that in the Oakland airport jetways until many years afterwards). I spent those years keeping my head down and staying out of mass popcult.

  49. 49.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 26, 2019 at 3:40 pm

    Question: I know the Trump campaign owes money to a lot of municipalities where he’s held rallies. What do we know about how other candidates in this year or the past handle these bills?

  50. 50.

    Marcopolo

    October 26, 2019 at 3:41 pm

    @sukabi: Also in regards to this I swear I read a story that birds that were tagged with these kinds of transmitters were being caught in Iran (though I guess it could have been another country) because they thought the tracking devices were really a plot by another country to spy on them.

    If I recall, this became apparent when the researchers saw that the birds gps locations had become fixed instead of continuing on the migratory route.

  51. 51.

    Kelly

    October 26, 2019 at 3:47 pm

    @Another Scott: I just checked and 2020 Obamacare price previews are available on Healthcare.gov. The premium for our Kaiser Bronze HSA will almost double to $6.49. Yes, that’s around the price of a modest lunch.

  52. 52.

    Marcopolo

    October 26, 2019 at 3:52 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Assume you are referencing this story (google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-racked-up-1-million-unpaid-bills-us-cities-2…)? And using my phone so sorry about the naked links.

    I think it is: 1) the consistency with which his campaign has shirked paying combined with 2) the size (and thus greater expense) of his events then multiplied by 3) the sheer number of rallies he is doing.

    But here is another article noting BS also had unpaid bills as did KH.

    minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/10/09/why-do-presidential-campaigns-often-skip-out-on-paying-cities-for-…

  53. 53.

    MisterForkbeard

    October 26, 2019 at 4:04 pm

    OT: My parents are outside of the evac zones in California but they’re about 20 miles away and expected to lose power for two days. We’re 30 away and expected to maintain power, so they’re coming to stay with us for the next couple days.

    We’re also opening our house to our Santa Rosa friends that might need it. My 5yo daughter is excited – she thinks it’s going to be great to have all her favorite people here “camping out”.

    The kids simultaneously make everyone calm down and add some stress, because you cant talk about potential disaster in front of them.

  54. 54.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 26, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    @Marcopolo: Interesting. I suspect Trump’s history of not paying contractors etc makes this feel more salient for him.

  55. 55.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 26, 2019 at 4:11 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

    My parents are outside of the evac zones in California but they’re about 20 miles away and expected to lose power for two days.

    Wow—that’s bad

    they’re coming to stay with us for the next couple days.

    Wow—that’s worse!

    The kids simultaneously make everyone calm down and add some stress, because you cant talk about potential disaster in front of them.

    So what do you say when they ask who’s the president right now?

  56. 56.

    Kay

    October 26, 2019 at 4:15 pm

    Trump decided to leave troops in Syria after conversations about oil, officials say
    Pentagon saw an opportunity with the president: “This is like feeding a baby its medicine in yogurt or applesauce.”

    I wish they’d stop comparing him to a baby. Babies aren’t horrible and nasty. Which one of the sleazy cronies is getting their hands on that oil, btw? Babies don’t steal either.

  57. 57.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 26, 2019 at 4:27 pm

    A 78-year-old Louisiana woman has been sentenced to 22 years in prison for trying to kill her attorney.

    Patricia Currie of Mandeville was 75 when she raised a loaded shotgun toward Keith Couture in 2016.

    A St. Tammany Parish jury convicted Currie in August of attempted second-degree murder

    …

    Couture testified in August that Currie arrived when he was alone, and he found latex gloves on her hands, plastic grocery bags on her feet and a towel across her lap, The Times-Picayune/The New Orleans Advocate reported.

    When he asked why she was there, she said she had come to kill him, showed him the shotgun under the towel and raised it toward him, but he wrestled it away, he said.

    You’ve all been warned—there will be no attempted killings of attorneys!

  58. 58.

    Marcopolo

    October 26, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    So yesterday about a million Chileans took to the street to protest their government.

    Wow. As the helicopter flys over Santiago, Chile, people appear to stretch for more than a mile. pic.twitter.com/SQ9NoMQC33— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) October 25, 2019

    Chile has a population of ~17.5M. If we had that kind of turnout in DC it would be ~19M protesters. So wow.

    The protesters are frustrated and demanding significant change to living standards, poor quality health care and education, and how the country is governed, with some demanding the president resigns.

    Today the Chilean president fired his entire cabinet.

    BREAKING: Chile's President Piñera has asked his ministers to resign, in the most dramatic move since protests began a week ago. The military also announced an end to the curfew. Yesterday's protest, by more than 1 million Chileans, is forcing change.pic.twitter.com/gZMtMarDnp— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) October 26, 2019

    Not sure how that necessarily meets the protesters demands. Anyone want to take any bets on whether/when the president resigns?

  59. 59.

    Another Scott

    October 26, 2019 at 4:43 pm

    Reuters – FB takes down PAC ad saying Linsey Graham voted for the Green New Deal:

    (Reuters) – Facebook Inc said on Saturday that it had removed an ad which falsely claimed that U.S. Republican Senator Lindsey Graham supported the Green New Deal, demonstrating that it will fact-check ads from political groups but not politicians.

    The ad, which ran on Friday, was put up as a stunt by a left-leaning Political Action Committee, or PAC, called The Really Online Lefty League, to test Facebook’s political ad policies.

    Facebook has been criticized in recent weeks over its decision to not fact-check ads run by politicians, drawing ire from Democratic candidates running in the 2020 presidential election such as former Vice President Joe Biden and Senator Elizabeth Warren.

    Last week, Facebook Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg defended Facebook’s policy, saying that the company did not want to stifle political speech.

    Facebook spokesman Tom Channick told Reuters on Friday that since the new ad came from a political action group, rather than a politician, it was eligible for review by the company’s third-party fact-checking partners.

    At the time of writing, the video could still be viewed on the PAC’s Facebook page, but paid distribution had been stopped.

    The ad came days after Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez grilled Zuckerberg on whether Facebook would permit her to run such an ad, during a congressional hearing on Wednesday.

    Adriel Hampton, treasurer of The Really Online Lefty League, said the Graham ad was inspired by the exchange.

    Senator Graham’s office said on Friday that it was aware of the ad and confirmed the senator opposes the Green New Deal, a proposal championed by Ocasio-Cortez that would eliminate U.S. greenhouse gas emissions within a decade.

    Facebook and other social media companies are under pressure to police misinformation on their platforms during the run-up to the November 2020 election.

    On Friday, Facebook started to test Facebook News, a new section of its mobile app dedicated to “high-quality news.” But the company came under fire from some political activists over its decision to include right-wing news website Breitbart News as one of its Facebook News publishers.

    Facebook said that Breitbart is an unpaid partner, unlike some outlets in the section. Breitbart News did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Facebook News will feature content from almost 200 publishers including the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post.

    A Facebook spokeswoman told Reuters that if any Facebook News publisher posts misinformation, the publisher would no longer be eligible for Facebook News.

    FB’s trying to be too clever by half here. PAC ads are clearly political speech, and they’re clearly willing to stifle it. Breitbarf is clearly a FWNJ trolling outfit.

    I don’t know the best way to draw the lines, but the First Amendment isn’t a suicide pact. When FB collects information on just about everyone on the planet (even those who don’t have accounts) and allows companies to tailor ads to everyone, it’s not just being a publishing platform. They’re enabling propaganda and worse.

    Grrr….

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    October 26, 2019 at 4:44 pm

    @Aleta

    Snow eagles. Been used on roofs for centuries. Nowadays called snow guards.

  61. 61.

    Starfish

    October 26, 2019 at 4:49 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Twitter has some *very* vocal and small minority of people killl all joy for everyone.

  62. 62.

    Mary G

    October 26, 2019 at 5:10 pm

    @Starfish: I like to mute them. Then I don’t see their stuff and they can waste their time trying to get me to respond.

  63. 63.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    October 26, 2019 at 5:15 pm

    Quick kitten update:

    Maysie is definitely a Max groupie.

    Unfortunately, I didn’t have my phone handy this morning when Loki climbed my husband trying to get to the ceiling fan’s pull cord.

    Both kittens are warming up toward the seafood-based cat foods preferred by the older cats. Rotisserie chicken is still their #1 favorite food. They also come running when the treats come out, but they just play with any treats tossed their way.

    Good photos and vids are harder to come by now that they have the run of the house. To make matters worse, Pixel has developed an ear infection, and a lot of time has been spent managing an extra-cranky curmudgeon. I’m trying to assemble an email to TaMara before I have to take a deep dive into a presentation I’m scheduled to do in a couple of weeks.

  64. 64.

    Ella in New Mexico

    October 26, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    @germy:

    She was overfed by a human, probably high-starch, low-protein food inappropriate for a cat.

    Up until just a few years ago, even good veterinarians were telling owners with fat cats to feed dry, “weight control” kibble. Problem is, it had a ton of starches, cereals, and fiber that some cats literally could not tolerate.

    We now known that cats, being obligate carnivores, need less than 5% carbs, and a ton of water, fat and protein in their diets. You can still over feed them, of course, but in general, they stay pretty slim and healthy on a wet diet because it also satiates them better than dry. I strongly suspect that like humans, diet can change gut microbiomes in animals and cause them to gain or lose weight, depending on what bacteria we’re feeding.

    About 10 years ago, I adopted my best friend’s older cat when she started doing travel nursing and couldn’t keep him with her on the road. When I first got him he weighed 23 lbs and literally his fat belly hit the floor and almost stopped his paws from reaching it if he sat up. He was only eating 1/2 cup a day of prescription weight loss food she was getting from her vet. He was an indoor/outdoor kitty, did a lot of roaming all over her property, so he wasn’t inactive. I did some research back then and came upon this idea that cats were developing insulin resistance from so many carbs in their diet, (including some of the fibers being put into weight loss kibble, that they actually seemed to be able to digest and turn into calories). I researched how to transition them to hi-pro/fat wet food safely (you have to go slow or you’ll kill their liver). After about 6 months he was down to 14 lbs and he pretty much stayed there give or take 2 lbs the rest of his life. (He really could have uses some post weight loss plastic surgery for that flapping belly, though lolol).

    I’m definitely seeing the messaging from vets now about wet/hi-pro diets, which is good. But I own four cats and lemme tell ya, feeding them canned food BID is expensive and can be a pain in the ass (if you need to go away for the weekend, for example). I can imagine some fixed/low income person thinking they’re doing the right thing just buying giant, cheap bags of Meow Mix and dumping it into a bowl so the cat grazes all day–which is actually normal for them–but because it’s chock full of crappy carbs it turns them into a Metabolic Syndrome Chonk cat.

  65. 65.

    Another Scott

    October 26, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico: Thanks for this.

    I imagine that in 50 years people will look back on how little we know about eating and metabolism and all the rest and recoil in horror, much as we do about stories from the Civil War about amputations and people dying from infections…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Aleta

    October 26, 2019 at 9:58 pm

    @Barbara: Thanks. We used to get giant icicles that crashed but I never thought about it back then. I must have been more carefree.

    @OzarkHillbilly: Thanks. You’ve crossed my mind quite a few times lately, every ordeal with the house the last four months.
    @Kelly: @NotMax: Thanks.

    Just got home from a bonfire on a farm.

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