NEW — Here is Pelosi’s Dear Colleague letter announcing vote on continuing impeachment proceedings and moving them to the public phase pic.twitter.com/OJVWUqR3tQ
— Sam Stein (@samstein) October 28, 2019
Possibly not unrelated, shall we say, to the Very Serious Peoples’ sudden intense interest in the proper etiquette for displaying public displeasure in an open forum, such as a baseball game?
Slightly paraphrased: "Dear Mr. President and Minority Leader McCarthy: You want public hearings? You got it. You want the depositions released? You got it. Floor vote? You got it. Be careful what you wish for."
— Keeva (@Keeva) October 28, 2019
So the White House demands that there be a formal impeachment vote.
A judge essentially rules there doesn’t need to be one
Pelosi decides to hold one anyway
And now WH says because she’s holding a vote everything done so far is “irreversibly illegitimate”
— Sam Stein (@samstein) October 28, 2019
— specfox.exe ver. 2019.6 RC1 ?? (@spectrumfox) October 28, 2019
Spanky
Loved it.
Other than that, the main takeaway from all of those tweets is that that cartoonist drew Nancy with a fat ass. Why am I so shallow?
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Spanky: I remember we discussed that cartoon when it first appeared; no consensus, but several here thought it was a repurposed Hillary image with the hair color changed.
ETA: I never stop being proud of my congresswoman. Nancy SMASH!
Mary G
Nancy is fucking awesome at her job.
Professor Bigfoot
I have listened to SO MUCH whining about how Nancy is never gonna impeach the bastard, blah blah blah…
Now all those friends who were so worried seem to have nothing to say.
It’s NancySMASH FTW, that’s all.
TomatoQueen
She’s even better than we think she is. Can’t quite let go of this constant shallow-breathing anxiety, but I do find myself nodding and grinning and muttering, “She’s got this.”
NotMax
OT.
Tracking a package on the USPS site. Early this morning it reported delivery expected between 11:00 and 12:00. Checked again after noontime – delivery expected between 12:00 and 2:00. Checked again after two – delivery expected by 4:00.
This could go on indefinitely.
;)
jc
I want the articles of impeachment to include the Mueller Grand Jury testimony that the administration is still trying to squash, as well as Trump’s taxes and several other loose ends. The impeachment evidence should be overwhelming, so the Senate Republicans look completely complicit when they move to squelch the whole filthy business.
Lord knows, there’s no shortage of Trump malfeasance, high crimes, abuse of office, tax fraud, obstruction, etc. Jeez, the Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal payoffs alone would be enough to sink any other presidency.
No more letting this slimy crook slither away from his bottomless bad faith.
kindness
Once this has been voted on (Thursday?) does the House then have to go get another subpoena for all those who have already ignored them?
Gin & Tonic
@NotMax: It’s like Zeno’s Paradox in reverse.
The Dangerman
Well, you can't blame them for trying….
…nah, to hell with that … Fuck 'Em
/EFG
patrick II
@Professor Bigfoot:
I was one of those whiners. And if a certain whistleblower hadn’t stepped forward we wouldn’t be impeaching Trump now. But Pelosi isn’t king of the House, only the leader, and she can count votes. If she didn’t want to go before it is probably because of reluctant democrats from purple districts. But it has been very frustrating to watch the Trump election and presidency and be sanguine about not doing anything about it until nearly three years in.
Jeffro
Nancy’s…incredible. ??
I am 92 pages in to “Mindf*ck: Cambridge Analytica and the Plot to Break America” and it is just terrifying. There’s no other word for it.
Unless some other lengthy review has already been posted on BJ (speak up, peeps!) I will take notes* and write up a review within the week.
This book is unbelievable.
*I am already dog-earing every other page
Patricia Kayden
Jeffro
@The Dangerman: “YOUHAVETOGOBACKTOSQUAREONEORITDOESNTCOUNT!!!1!!!”
Oh no we don’t, Twitler. Everybody’s on to you.
Join the drumbeat, GOP, you know how this is gonna end now with Nancy Smash leading the way: RESIGN, Donnie! Just fucking resign and fly to Moscow or Istanbul already
The Dangerman
@Jeffro:
Also, any impeachment vote on a day ending in “y” doesn’t count. It’s in the really, really fine print of the Constitution.
schrodingers_cat
Has Sarah Kendzior apologized to Nancy Pelosi yet for saying that she was on the take from the Russians.
Jeffro
@The Dangerman: so fine, the very best fine print…believe me…
donnah
@NotMax:
That reminds me of my experience with an Amazon delivery where they messaged a package delivery at 7 pm and I didn’t see it, while the next email said it had been delivered. Nope.
Fortunately, they enclosed a photo of the porch and front door, which I recognized as my neighbor’s front door. By the time I figured it out, it was late, so rather than search their porch in the dark, I waited for morning until they came out to go to work and I claimed it.
joel hanes
In the Army, we called this mode “fucking kicking fucking butt and taking fucking names”.
joel hanes
@Jeffro:
Istanbul
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcze7EGorOk
Mary G
O/T, but this Vox article about the status of the lawsuit between the NRA and its advertising firm is amusing:
?????They were shocked, shocked! to see that Dana Loesch and everyone on NRATV was being racist. Sure, Jan. It does seem like both sides are determined to use the scorched-earth strategy that have their attorneys dreaming of finally getting that Lamborghini.
Frankensteinbeck
@Professor Bigfoot:
Unfortunately, the ones I know believe the fact that everyone in Trump’s administration is not in jail for obstruction of congress proves the Democrats want Trump in power, and that the impeachment stuff happening now is a meaningless insincere statement.
Mnemosyne
@patrick II:
I do totally understand why people were getting impatient and worried. I will admit to having had quite a few feelings like that myself even though I put on a brave face here.
What I don’t get are the people (not you!) who stayed mad after getting what they said they wanted instead of being relieved. I think I compared them to a kid who refuses to play with a toy he got for Christmas because h wanted it for his birthday and now it’s ruined!
Procopius
@Jeffro:
I haven’t read it and most likely won’t, but when I see that phrase I take it literally. The last three years I’ve seen more people uncritically accepting unsupported allegations since the McCarthy Years.
Anne Laurie
@Jeffro:
Do that, and I will front-page it as a guest post.
(Been looking at reviews myself, but I have so much reading already… )
Jeffro
@Anne Laurie: will do and thanks!
Nothing focuses the mind quite like a (sorta) deadline ?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Mnemosyne:
I was impatient, still am, but with the American people, and to varying degrees with individual Ms-o-C*, but not with Pelosi, really.
Is Jeff Van Drew still actively opposed to impeachment? I’m willing to give Kendra Horn, from freaking Oklahoma, a pass.
ETA: I guess we’ll know Thursday
oatler.
@Mary G: Dana Loesch? The one who does ads for powdered beets? Yes, I live in Sinclair station land. We also get Chuck Woolery hawking emu lotion.
Uncle Cosmo
@NotMax: I don’t want to disturb you unduly, but last spring I sent a small package by first class mail (with a tracking number) from the central Baltimore post office to a suburb of Rochester NY. It was headed for the daughter of a good friend, to be carried to her dad in the Czech Republic when she flew across to see him later that month.
I was told it should arrive in 3 days. After a week in which the tracking location of the package did not change, I started raising unholy hell with the Postal Disservice.
It finally arrived 18 days after it was mailed – & I am morally certain that if I had not bothered them every which way I could, they would not have bothered to search the warehouse where it was languishing. Fortunately it still showed up in time to make the transatlantic flight, but still…
Good luck with yours.
J R in WV
I order stuff from the innertubes, and when it is shipped via the US postal service, it is delivered to (or lands in a post office nearby) the addressee promptly. If it is sent via UPS or FedEx, it arrives somewhere, if not at our house, at the neighbor’s or at the basement door, or somewhere in the neighborhood. Sometimes a day or two later at the Post Office.
Tomorrow I’m going to the Post Office to get some tee shirts I ordered from NYC last week. Says they were “delivered” last Thursday… probably to the post office…
ETA: On the other hand, living in the country and trying to keep you head down means Google thinks the local news is for a small town in MS, or AR, or upstate NY, or KS, very rarely around here.
sdhays
The same thing that makes some people frustrated with Pelosi is the same that makes her opponents terrified of her. She doesn’t bluff. She held the impeachment train back while evidence and pressure built up. Now that the moment is ripe so her more vulnerable members are on board, she’s going ahead.
And there will be no fig leaves for Republican Senators to hide behind in the trial. It will be clear that if they vote to acquit, they endorse Dump’s crimes.
Jay Noble
This has been my cut & paste to some of the unhinged on Facebook about “no due process, no transparency!”
Does the whole police department and prosecutor’s office get to work on a mob or drug investigation? The membership of every committee (the cops and investigators) working on these investigations is only slightly majority Democrat. None of the Republican members of those committees have been excluded from any of the meetings. Because of the nature of the Presidency and Executive branch, the House acts as the prosecutor. If the prosecutor (the whole House) decides there is sufficient evidence to prosecute, they send it to the Senate for a trial. This inquiry is no different than any drug or mafia investigation that we see in the news every day and have seen as impeachment proceedings of at least 3 presidents and several federal judges. No one is above the law.
J R in WV
@Uncle Cosmo:
Also, I am a mineral specimen collector. Not acquiring new minerals now, but have a substantial collection of mostly crystalline minerals. I learned from professional mineral dealers that sending high-dollar specimens via FedEx or UPS — even if you specified a high dollar value and paid for that value, your shipment was not actually going to be insured for your declared value.
But the USPS, if informed in advance of the value of a package, would pay that amount if the package was delivered with damage. I only received one mineral that was broken upon delivery, as mineral dealers are really good at packaging fragile crystalline specimens for shipping.
I have read of guys having to file suit against delivery services, and agreeing to an unfair settlement just before their case was to commence in court… we’re talking about mid 5 figure dollar amounts here.
I think the Post Office is the most honest and incorruptible delivery service available to us! It is a shame that the Republicans are doing their best to drive the USPS into failure by imposing standards on them that no business has to meet. Plus they’re a union shop, while FedEx is not. UPS is a union shop and does a pretty good job on standard deliveries, but will not stand behind their guarantee as to price of valuable shipments.
Just my $0.02 on delivery serivces.
Redshift
@Jay Noble: All Republican outrage is fake.
Always.
Captain C
@Redshift: Unless it’s about their bank account being too small.
HumboldtBlue
This is as terrible as Trump. But the hip kids will smoke it.
SFAW
@The Dangerman:
Not only that, but wimmins weren’t allowed to vote when impeachment was put into the Constitution, so Pelosi’s vote SHOULD NOT COUNT!!!!
I’m waiting for the Fuckhead-in-Chief to start in with “Lock her up!” (re: Speaker Pelosi) at his upcoming rallies