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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / Pre-Dawn Open Thread: Bluegrass Schadenfreude

Pre-Dawn Open Thread: Bluegrass Schadenfreude

by Anne Laurie|  November 6, 20193:39 am| 36 Comments

This post is in: 2020 Elections, local races 2019/2020, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republicans in Disarray!, Decline and Fall, Make The World A Better Place

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Kentucky race isn’t official until Trump tweets something critical of Bevin

— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) November 6, 2019

Wonder if Trump will blame Kentucky on McConnell.

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) November 6, 2019

Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale: "The President just about dragged Gov. Matt Bevin across the finish line, helping him run stronger than expected in what turned into a very close race at the end."

— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) November 6, 2019

President Trump yesterday: "You’re sending that big message to the rest of the country, it’s so important… Because if you lose it sends a really bad message. And they will build it up. You can’t let that happen to me.” https://t.co/kL49dDKGEk https://t.co/R6VbW6VLpa

— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) November 6, 2019

Fayette County, which is where Trump held his rally last night, voted for Andy Beshear over Matt Bevin in a 2 to 1 landslide pic.twitter.com/LF4mIZ8BxL

— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) November 6, 2019

Bevin was the only candidate Trump campaigned for and he lost. That’s the headline.

— Kevin (@kevin_cracknell) November 6, 2019


Hearing that a big reason Trump agreed to go down to do a rally for Bevin in the first place was that Parscale told him that Bevin was up 5. pic.twitter.com/P6cQ6Sf7XG

— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) November 6, 2019

A reminder: @MattBevin told me two weeks ago the race wasn’t so close — predicted he’d win by “six to ten percent”https://t.co/07mZ0U8Gsg

— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) November 6, 2019

If you lose Covington Catholic… https://t.co/ftVlpfYinR

— Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis) November 6, 2019

Anyway, the thing you need to know about Matt Bevin is that he is such an asshole that a small but significant number of people who genuinely believe Obama was the antichrist and Trump anointed by God still pulled the lever for the other guy.

— Botswana Starfish Totally Not Blackmailing POTUS (@IRHotTakes) November 6, 2019

This dispatch from @timcraigpost last month, when a Republican voter said she wouldn’t vote for Bevin even if Trump personally asked her to do so: “I would tell President Trump to his face, ‘Why are you even supporting this jerk?’?” https://t.co/UPhduPAvV1

— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) November 6, 2019

Never overstate a single race. Bevin is a bit toxic. Tried to dismantle popular ACA plan etc. But at the end of the day Trump and Bevin went all in on impeachment and it couldn’t save Bevin in one of the reddest states in the country.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 6, 2019

Folks, Mitch McConnel and Rand Paul must immediately support impeachment. https://t.co/BUpWPd5QFA

— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) November 6, 2019

As a guy working for Senator Cochran when he beat Chris McDaniel and McDaniel refused to concede, here’s a little tip for Matt Bevin: no one cares. Your concession or refusal means nothing. Go get in a fight behind the Waffle House and get over it.

— stuart stevens (@stuartpstevens) November 6, 2019

Whoa, a Kentucky reporter on MSNBC right now just said that Trump’s visit may have energized Democratic voters and help cost the GOP incumbent the election.

— John Aravosis???? (@aravosis) November 6, 2019

R’s are saying that Bevin’s loss doesn’t matter because he was a singularly arrogant executive who picked stupid fights that alienated suburban voters. Oh. I guess that has no applicability to 2020 then. Hmmm. Also, pls explain Virginia.

— Amanda Carpenter (@amandacarpenter) November 6, 2019

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  1. 1.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 6, 2019 at 3:52 am

    Dump won Kentucky by 30 pts.

    They had a GIANT structural advantage going into this race and they choked.

    Total losers.

    Sad!

  2. 2.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 6, 2019 at 3:57 am

    Total votes 2015 Kentucky race: 937,994

    Total votes 2019 Kentucky race: 1,414,196

    So much winning.

  3. 3.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 6, 2019 at 4:04 am

    Mississippi Governor’s Race:

    2007: gop +16 pts.
    2011: gop +22 pts.
    2015: gop +34 pts.
    2019: gop .+6 pts.

    A 28 point reversal

  4. 4.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 6, 2019 at 4:04 am

    Poor Republicans. Unless they can suppress minority votes, they can’t win. I’m so happy for Virginia. They can now get gun control legislation passed.

  5. 5.

    Tony Jay

    November 6, 2019 at 4:11 am

    @David ??Booooooo?? Koch:

    I’m just waiting for President Negativity to squeeze out a few tweets blaming Kentucky’s “lazy” voters for making him look bad. I mean, it couldn’t possibly be that his own misrule has turned out huge opposition among the new/infrequent voter slice of the electorate, could it? Nah. It must be the Republican majority (who love him, of course) not listening to his wise words and sitting this one out because, hey, the GOP lose in Kentucky when the country is doing so great? Like that’s gonna happen.

    Next November should be fun.

  6. 6.

    susanna

    November 6, 2019 at 4:24 am

    The DNC might think of using the last two words of trump’s speech, “….for me,” over and over, until it sinks into their pathetic patooties that he’s not into them or America.

    Interesting that at least one Ky voter was impressed and possibly swayed by the attention he got from near and far(CA) by Dems. So we folks out here have work to do. And there’s lots of us. Time to get involved and MAKE 2020 flip happen.

  7. 7.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 6, 2019 at 4:32 am

    In Virginia, Democrats are currently leading in 56 House of Delegate races. If that holds, then republicans will have lost 22 mother fucking seats over the last two years.

  8. 8.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 6, 2019 at 4:40 am

    Up at the ass-crack of pre-dawn to catch my flight, BOS-MEX. See you on the other side.

  9. 9.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 6, 2019 at 4:41 am

    Luckily my body still thinks it’s in Germany, so getting up now isn’t much of a bother.

  10. 10.

    opiejeanne

    November 6, 2019 at 4:44 am

    These returns are making me happy tonight. I just hope WA gives us some good news when they finish counting the votes, because right now this blue state is making me nervous.

  11. 11.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 6, 2019 at 4:46 am

    ? ? ? ? W A V E ? ? ? ?

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 6, 2019 at 4:47 am

    @Tony Jay:

    not listening to his wise words

    They didn’t follow his great and unmatched wisdom.

  13. 13.

    TS (the original)

    November 6, 2019 at 4:48 am

    It would seem trump has the ability to GOTV against him. That is such a blessing.

  14. 14.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    November 6, 2019 at 4:51 am

    The Kentucky Senate President has darkly intoned some theory that the election will be contested into the legislature, where both houses are under GOP control. He’s a scion of Clay County, one of the poorest counties in the country, where a few well connected elites sit atop a heap of corruption, poverty, drugs and violence – and his family has been at the top of that heap for generations.

    I’ve known him since law school, and counted him as a friend. Here’s what I’ve said to him, directly and in elaboration, clearly and publicly burning a 30-plus year acquaintance:

    Such an attempted action should be met with contempt, hatred and righteous civic violence directed and aimed at the perpetrators. As I posted to Robert Stivers last night, I had this to say:

    “Contested election”??

    You and I go a long way back, Robert, but that’s the stupid talk of a power-crazed freak from a corrupt, economically moribund, violent county run into the ground by generations of corrupt, craven, thieving ruling clans. As I understand, your family figures prominently as one of those central ruling clans – and while you may think of yourselves as Mayberry Macchiavellis, a whole slew of us are sick of your shit.

    Keep your grasping hands out of my pockets – learn to drawl “thank you” to the taxpayers of Louisville, Lexington and NKY on occasion, and ask what you can do to help us painlessly help your constituents (not that you really care, given your actions), even if that includes gaming.

    And please keep your deranged religious nonsense to yourself.

    I’m so disgusted, and will likely lose some other friends over it, but fuck them if they can’t see why I’m so pissed off.

  15. 15.

    hells littlest angel

    November 6, 2019 at 4:56 am

    If Trump had any class at all, he’d thank Bevin for giving him something besides impeachment to constantly whine about.

  16. 16.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 6, 2019 at 5:19 am

    @hells littlest angel: If trump had any class he’d kill himself.

  17. 17.

    Sab

    November 6, 2019 at 5:22 am

    I have been voting since 1972 and this has never happened before. Everyone and everything I voted for won. Every last one of them. Wow.

  18. 18.

    JWR

    November 6, 2019 at 5:28 am

    A blast from the (not so distant) past:

    If House D’s refuse to release full transcript of Volker testimony as requested by Congressman Jordan, it will be an abuse of power.— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) October 9, 2019

    via LGM

    eta Ewwyyuck! Lindsey’s Twitter uses a photo of him with Bent Kavanaugh for the bio shot.

  19. 19.

    Sab

    November 6, 2019 at 5:31 am

    @JWR: Lol.

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    November 6, 2019 at 5:33 am

    Can’t quite decide which of two options will end up playing out.

    1) Matt Bevin named ambassador to Ukraine, or

    2) Announcement of a mid-season replacement globe-trotting show: Matt Bevin, CSI (Conspiracy Server Investigator)

  21. 21.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 6, 2019 at 5:37 am

    @Sab: I once voted for a dead guy. And the dead guy won. John Ashcroft was the LOOOOOOOSER.

    @JWR: Would that be the same Lindsey Graham who decided he won’t read any of the transcripts, and dismissed Sondland’s reversal, saying, “I’ve written the whole process off … I think this is a bunch of B.S.” ?

  22. 22.

    NotMax

    November 6, 2019 at 5:47 am

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Graham taking his cue from that harpy Barbara Bush’s “So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?” comment about talk of casualties in Iraq.

  23. 23.

    Tony Jay

    November 6, 2019 at 5:56 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    They didn’t follow his great and unmatched wisdom.

    Iz ur Republikanz lernin?

    Learning to keep their thick as Dad’s gravy heads down, maybe. Then again, the last time the North American heartland faced a blue wave this big a meteor the size of Manhattan had just landed in the Caribbean Sea.

    There’s a “Even those dinosaurs heard that” joke there somewhere.

  24. 24.

    Ian R

    November 6, 2019 at 6:15 am

    @Sab: Me too, but here in deep blue New Haven, we had all of one theoretically-contested election. (“Theoretically”, because the candidate who lost for mayor tonight lost again against the same person who beat her in the Democratic primary.)

    The other two positions, it was just a question of how many people would vote for the same candidate on the Working Family Party line, rather than the Democratic Party line.

  25. 25.

    SFAW

    November 6, 2019 at 6:49 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    If trump had any class he’d kill himself.

    Good idea, but I can envision two potential problems with that:
    1) As with everything he does, he’d probably fuck that up as well
    2) What would the Secret Service’s position be on that? “Use lethal force on anyone threatening the life of the preznit”? So does that mean they shoot him in order to save him?

  26. 26.

    JWR

    November 6, 2019 at 7:21 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Would that be the same Lindsey Graham

    I think so. It’s hard to tell these days. :)

  27. 27.

    Ken

    November 6, 2019 at 7:44 am

    @JWR: +1

    (Are we getting upvotes when we move to Balloon Juice Platinum?)

  28. 28.

    Another Scott

    November 6, 2019 at 8:03 am

    @Tony Jay: You rang?:

    Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    Based on the Kentucky results, Mitch McConnell @senatemajldr will win BIG in Kentucky next year!

    4:51 AM – 6 Nov 2019

    Yeah, that follows.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  29. 29.

    ET

    November 6, 2019 at 8:19 am

    I wonder how many of those people that turned up to see tRump in Lexington were actually Kentucky voters? I don’t know if the story I was reading finterviewed one of the few tRump zombies not from Kentucky, or of that person was one of many.

  30. 30.

    Aleta

    November 6, 2019 at 8:46 am

    (Nov. 5, Courier Journal) A federal judge has dismissed presidential candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren from a libel suit filed by 10 Covington Catholic High School students. 

    The students, identified only as the “Covington Boys” in court records, filed suit in August alleging they were defamed by a dozen public figures ….
    …
    A day after the incident, Warren tweeted that Phillips “endured hateful taunts with dignity and strength, then urged us all to do better.”
    …
    The students sued the Massachusetts congresswoman and 11 other public figures who criticized the students, including New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman, actress Kathy Griffin, activist Shaun King and U.S. Rep. Deb Haaland.

    U.S. District Court Judge William Bertelsman ruled Tuesday that Warren acted within the scope of her employment when she tweeted and is therefore protected by sovereign immunity. 

    “The Court concludes that the challenged statements by defendants Warren and Haaland — whether one agrees with them or finds them objectionable — are communications intended to convey the politicians’ views on matters of public interest to their constituents,” Bertelsman wrote. 

  31. 31.

    rikyrah

    November 6, 2019 at 8:55 am

    @David ??Booooooo?? Koch: uh huh ?? ?

  32. 32.

    Aleta

    November 6, 2019 at 8:59 am

    @Aleta:
    In case we missed it, Oct. 28 in the Post:

    A federal judge reinstated part of a lawsuit against The Washington Post filed by the family of a Kentucky teenager that alleged the newspaper libeled the teen in its coverage of his encounter with a Native American activist at the Lincoln Memorial earlier this year.

    Judge William O. Bertelsman, who rejected the suit in July on First Amendment grounds, said Monday he would allow it to go forward, but narrowed its scope from 33 published statements to three.

    Bertelsman had thrown out the Sandmanns’ claims three months ago, ruling that none of the 33 statements they’d sued over were defamatory and that the majority constituted protected opinion.

    “The court accepts Sandmann’s statement that, when he was standing motionless in the confrontation with Phillips, his intent was to calm the situation and not impede or block anyone,” the judge wrote in July.

    “However, Phillips did not see it that way. He concluded that he was being ‘blocked’ and not allowed to ‘retreat.’ He passed these conclusions on to The Post. They may have been erroneous, but . . . they are opinion protected by the First Amendment. And The Post is not liable for publishing these opinions.”

    But the judge reconsidered on Monday, saying he would permit discovery to proceed on three statements contained in Post articles, specifically that Sandmann had “blocked” Phillips as he ascended the memorial’s stairs and “would not allow him to retreat.”

    Bertelsman didn’t explain why he reconsidered and found these statements to be potentially defamatory now.

    “Suffice to say that the Court has given this matter careful review and concludes that ‘justice requires’ that discovery be had regarding these statements and their context,” he wrote in his five-page order.

    The Sandmanns’ original legal complaint cast The Post’s coverage of the incident in political terms. It claimed that The Post “ignored basic journalist standards because it wanted to advance its well-known and easily documented, biased agenda against President Donald J. Trump …
    …

  33. 33.

    pinacacci

    November 6, 2019 at 9:24 am

    @Sab: That has got to feel good. And weird.

  34. 34.

    Miss Bianca

    November 6, 2019 at 9:47 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I love it when you get into a passion. : )

    Jackaltariat have a way with words. Congratulations on your new governor! May this be the dawning of a new political age in KY!

  35. 35.

    J R in WV

    November 6, 2019 at 11:12 am

    3 years ago on election night I went to bed early, unusual for me on an election night, and after drinking more whiskey than usual too. Last night I was exhausted after getting to the hospital at 5:45 am for an MRI on my right knee, which showed that most of my knee cartilage is gone and what remains is bits & pieces in the wrong places, so into bed early again.

    But I knew that it was very likely that KY was going to elect a Democrat, and that VA would have a Democratically controlled legislature, so all different.

    Slept really well, too, even with letting puppies in and out. Getting up at 3 or 4 am isn’t a big deal when you fall right back to sleep.

  36. 36.

    columbusqueen

    November 6, 2019 at 11:21 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: You’re the man. Stay strong ? & keep the faith.

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