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You are here: Home / Breaking: Deluded Rich Old White Man Enters Presidential Race

Breaking: Deluded Rich Old White Man Enters Presidential Race

by $8 blue check mistermix|  November 7, 20196:07 pm| 165 Comments

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Bloomberg is in, baby:

A spokesman said that Bloomberg “believes that Donald Trump represents an unprecedented threat to our nation” and that “the current field of candidates is not well positioned” to defeat him. He plans to file for access to the Alabama ballot before Friday’s deadline; deadlines for filing for additional state ballots are looming.

Just what we need, a 78 year-old old white guy to lecture us on how we’re all too liberal.

I remember a conversation I had with a New York Republican businessman just before Trump clinched the nomination. His theory was that Bloomberg would jump into the Republican race and save the Republicans from themselves. That demonstrates the political power of Bloomberg — massive in its potential in the minds of center-right supporters, yet puny in its substance.

It’s more than a little funny that the first state he’s going to file in is Alabama, where he’ll be about as welcome as a pregnant nun in a convent, a fart in church, or a imam at a Trump rally.

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  1. 1.

    cain

    November 7, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    Lordy save us from these folks.

  2. 2.

    JMG

    November 7, 2019 at 6:13 pm

    He filed in Alabama because the filing deadline is next Friday, earliest in the country, or so I was informed by Dave Weigel of the Post. I’d be willing to make a prop bet that Bloomberg gets fewer votes than Andrew Yang in every primary both of them are in/
    PS: Pence went to New Hampshire to file for Trump today and took his motorcade down I-93 to Logan Airport at rush hour! Authorities blocked BOTH sides of the O’Neill tunnel under downtown Boston. That’s always a vote getting move.

  3. 3.

    guachi

    November 7, 2019 at 6:13 pm

    I guess he and Steyer will split that 1% of the electorate!

  4. 4.

    Wapiti

    November 7, 2019 at 6:16 pm

    So his wiki page says he was a Republican 2001 to 2007, and an Independent 2007-2018. Why doesn’t he run as a Republican? Clearly his party affiliation is very mutable.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    November 7, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    I’d just like to say Fuck You to everyone who uttered the word “coronation” in 2016.

    That is all.

  6. 6.

    rikyrah

    November 7, 2019 at 6:18 pm

    Get the ENTIRE PHUCK OUTTA HERE ???

  7. 7.

    CaseyL

    November 7, 2019 at 6:18 pm

    JFC. What is it with these people?

  8. 8.

    Mary G

    November 7, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    He’s not as terrible as Howard Schultz or Steyer, but that bar is underground. All these guys need to stop with the vanity runs and get the Senate to flip.

  9. 9.

    Ruckus

    November 7, 2019 at 6:20 pm

    Just what we fucking need, another rich fuck to protect the rest of the one% from having to actually be a citizen of the country they claim as theirs.
    Fucking wankers.

  10. 10.

    Tom Q

    November 7, 2019 at 6:20 pm

    It’s truly amazing, the number of billionaires who think their perspective is what the country, and particularly the Democratic party, is missing right now.

    Nate Silver has already noted that Bloomberg’s patch — socially liberal; economically…if not conservative, most definitely not liberal, doing nothing about income inequality — is the smallest piece of turf in contemporary politics. But it does match up with a good portion of the DC pundit crowd, so Bloomberg will get a ton more coverage than he deserves.

  11. 11.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    November 7, 2019 at 6:20 pm

    Well there goes the rich and useless plutocrat vote who would die rather than vote blue for the Dems.

  12. 12.

    Tom Levenson

    November 7, 2019 at 6:23 pm

    Imma going to go out on a limb to say that this is likely a nothingburger. I don’t think it hurts Warren or Sanders. Conventional village wisdom is already suggesting this is a blow to Biden, but I doubt that as well. It does give political horse race journos something a lot easier to talk about than impeachment or the ongoing degradation of the Republican party, much less the heavy lifting of actually reporting on the substance of any of the meaningful D campaigns. But this is one more plan that will not survive first contact with the enemy/reality.

  13. 13.

    trollhattan

    November 7, 2019 at 6:24 pm

    “Rich New Yorker sweeps to victory in Alabama primary” seems like an inevitable headline now. Can the papers squeeze in “Oowish-jay” somehow?
    Can we finagle a Bloomberg, Roy Moore and Jeff Sessions debate?

  14. 14.

    germy

    November 7, 2019 at 6:25 pm

    Bloomberg/Steyer 2020

    Let’s heal this divided nation.

    And no more crazy talk about taxing the rich, please. (I’m looking at you Professor Warren and Mr. Sanders!)

  15. 15.

    Mary G

    November 7, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    Good grief, another hat may be thrown in the ring;

    It gets even more interesting. I hear from a good source that Eric Holder has been consulting strategists about possibly jumping into the Dem presidential race. NYT reports Michael Bloomberg is seriously considering a late entry as well.— Eugene Robinson (@Eugene_Robinson) November 7, 2019

    We need fewer candidates, not more.

  16. 16.

    Ruckus

    November 7, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    We need an actual tax rate that is a percentage of total income, no fucking matter the source. At least then the one% would be paying something.
    Make a million, pay $200,000.
    Make a billion, pay $200,000,000.

  17. 17.

    Immanentize

    November 7, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    Bloomberg: 78 years old by the first primary.
    Sanders: 78 1/2 years old by the first primary.
    Biden: 76 1/3 years old by the first primary.

    Reagan, infirm and in the throes of dementia, was not quite 78 AT THE END OF HIS PRESIDENCY!

    What the holy fuck are we thinking?

  18. 18.

    germy

    November 7, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    The billionaire panic at the possible end of the long Reagan ride is really something to see.— Schooley (@Rschooley) November 7, 2019

  19. 19.

    germy

    November 7, 2019 at 6:27 pm

    @Immanentize:

    78 is the new 77.

  20. 20.

    zhena gogolia

    November 7, 2019 at 6:28 pm

    I wish Sanders would get out and take care of his health.

    I wish Gabbard would get out period.

    I wish no one else would get in.

  21. 21.

    Mary G

    November 7, 2019 at 6:28 pm

    "individual billionaires are more responsible stewards of their vast fortunes than the US government" is a take whose logic drops by, like, the hour

    — Dorothy "DC statehood now" Fortenberry (@Dorothy410berry) November 7, 2019

    "i should keep my money, so I can fix climate change"
    "cool, are you fixing climate change?"&
    quot;no, i'm running a vanity campaign"
    "don't we have several of those?"
    "no, mine is new"
    "what about the climate change thing?"
    "that was a hypothetical to prove a point"
    "sure was"

    — Dorothy "DC statehood now" Fortenberry (@Dorothy410berry) November 7, 2019

  22. 22.

    TS (the original)

    November 7, 2019 at 6:29 pm

    @Tom Q: Money in the USA always gets a ton more coverage than deserved. When I grew up I had NO idea as to the names of the CEOs of large organisations unless perchance I had a personal relationship with one of same (and that was extrmely rare). Today we hear of them non stop as they plunder the world & influence governments to give them more and more of the world’s resources.

  23. 23.

    dr. bloor

    November 7, 2019 at 6:30 pm

    It’s more than a little funny that the first state he’s going to file in is Alabama, where he’ll be about as welcome as a pregnant nun in a convent, a fart in church, or a imam at a Trump rally.

    Yeah, he’s a Jew, but that will pale in comparison to his efforts to ban supersized Coca-Colas while running NYC.d

  24. 24.

    zhena gogolia

    November 7, 2019 at 6:30 pm

    @PaulRudnickNY
    3h3 hours ago
    More
    DNA testing revealed that Don Jr. and Kimberly are 47% big fake teeth; 12% vinyl diner booth upholstery; 15% self-tanner made from melted crayons and motor oil; 14% acrylic “hair-like product” and 12% surgical implants which have shifted. No brain matter or humanity were detected

  25. 25.

    smintheus

    November 7, 2019 at 6:33 pm

    So Bloomberg is running in the Dem primary, is that the implication?

  26. 26.

    zhena gogolia

    November 7, 2019 at 6:34 pm

    @smintheus:

    Yes, I had to go to the link to find out for sure.

  27. 27.

    TS (the original)

    November 7, 2019 at 6:34 pm

    @Ruckus: That is a regressive tax and beloved by republicans. There is no problem with a progressive tax, low at the bottom and at least 50% at the top.

  28. 28.

    Marcopolo

    November 7, 2019 at 6:34 pm

    I find it hard to believe that it is a coincidence that Warren’s campaign dropped their online wealth tax calculator and within a matter of hours, Bloomberg is saying he’ll be filing papers for the D primary in AL.

    It could not be clearer how terrified these rich old white dudes are of her.

  29. 29.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 7, 2019 at 6:34 pm

    @Ruckus: No Ruckus, what you just described is Steve Forbes wet dream, the Flat Tax. We need a Progressive Tax on all sources of income.

  30. 30.

    VeniceRiley

    November 7, 2019 at 6:35 pm

    This is way more fun when it’s Tony Jay talking UK politics. FFS. Too many Ross Perot 2.0 types already!

  31. 31.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 7, 2019 at 6:36 pm

    Kill the rich. That is all.

  32. 32.

    Mary G

    November 7, 2019 at 6:36 pm

    @Mary G: About Holder:

    If this is true, then the establishment Ds are scared to death of a Biden candidacy https://t.co/aPTGbczpSS— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) November 7, 2019

  33. 33.

    Suburban Mom

    November 7, 2019 at 6:37 pm

    @trollhattan: Don’t forget “divorced.” Alabama doesn’t seem like his sweet spot, really.

  34. 34.

    germy

    November 7, 2019 at 6:37 pm

    Welcome to the race, @MikeBloomberg! If you're looking for policy plans that will make a huge difference for working people and which are very popular, start here: https://t.co/6UMSAf90NT
    — Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) November 7, 2019

  35. 35.

    smintheus

    November 7, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Hmmm…when I read the link it didn’t say so explicitly.

  36. 36.

    Kraux Pas

    November 7, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    @JMG:

    Pence went to New Hampshire to file for Trump today and took his motorcade down I-93 to Logan Airport at rush hour! Authorities blocked BOTH sides of the O’Neill tunnel under downtown Boston. That’s always a vote getting move.

    I’m beginning to think Trumpence may not carry Boston. They’re in trouble now.

    Hey, maybe they have footage of the chaos this undoubtedly created and plan on using it in an ad with the tagline “Suck it, libs!”

    Nah, they don’t know how to use punctuation.

  37. 37.

    Kent

    November 7, 2019 at 6:41 pm

    @TS (the original):

    @Tom Q: Money in the USA always gets a ton more coverage than deserved. When I grew up I had NO idea as to the names of the CEOs of large organisations unless perchance I had a personal relationship with one of same (and that was extrmely rare). Today we hear of them non stop as they plunder the world & influence governments to give them more and more of the world’s resources.

    Well, they were famous, but not for being Dicks necessarily. And some of them were very political too. Remember

    Lee Iacocca
    Sam Walton
    John Rockefeller
    Andrew Carnegie
    J.P. Morgan
    Jack Warner
    Conrad Hilton
    Ted Turner
    Walt Disney
    Henry Ford
    Andrew Mellon
    etc.

  38. 38.

    trollhattan

    November 7, 2019 at 6:41 pm

    @dr. bloor:
    “R.C. Cola and a Moon Pie.” He’s bicultural and all that.

    How would banning Coca-Cola play in Georgia?

  39. 39.

    zhena gogolia

    November 7, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    @Marcopolo:

    I’ve been skeptical about Warren, but all this billionaire whining is making me feel more positively about her. Can’t believe I’m alone.

  40. 40.

    NotMax

    November 7, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    Meh.

    Personal financial wealth is so far down on the list of potential concerns I hold regarding candidates that it vies for space with “hates lime Jell-O” and “once photographed wearing mismatched socks.”

  41. 41.

    CaseyL

    November 7, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    I’m with OzarkHillbillty. Feeling some major Madame Lafarge rage right now.

  42. 42.

    trollhattan

    November 7, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    @Mary G:
    Eric Holder? That Eric Holder? Has he had a personality transplant since he was last in the public eye?

  43. 43.

    Millard Filmore

    November 7, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Kill the rich. That is all.

    I have been led to understand that “Eat the rich” is the politically correct way to express this sentiment.

  44. 44.

    Kent

    November 7, 2019 at 6:45 pm

    What I don’t even understand is that anyone with a modicum of knowledge about the legislative process in this country has to know that Warren’s wealth tax is basically going to be DOA under any conceivable Congress that might be serving in 2020. What are they scared of? They know they can stop it dead in its tracks.

    I think what they are actually afraid of is having the conversation at all. And that maybe Warren will set the stage for her predecessor to actually get something done with a better Congress.

  45. 45.

    satby

    November 7, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    @Baud: so glad you’re back. Thank you!

  46. 46.

    Amir Khalid

    November 7, 2019 at 6:48 pm

    @Tom Levenson:
    I’m right there on that limb with you. Steyer isn’t exactly lighting up the campaign, and Mr Coffee (whatever his name was) has already sunk without trace. The bajillionaire candidates have a shit-ton of money, and their peers in wealth probably do think they’re just awesome. But they haven’t distinguished themselves as candidates in any way. They don’t stand out as having more than other candidates of the knowledge and skills required of a POTUS, or of an appealing personality. They’re just lousy candidates. Granted, a horrible candidate with zero knowledge and zero political skills won the last election and is now befouling everything he touches, but do they want to be that guy?

  47. 47.

    Mary G

    November 7, 2019 at 6:49 pm

    @trollhattan: I was tempted to say Holder has the personality of a piece of cardboard left in the gutter for a week.

  48. 48.

    debbie

    November 7, 2019 at 6:51 pm

    @Mary G:

    I think Biden’s made more than a few people nervous.

  49. 49.

    germy

    November 7, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    @Mary G: I thought Holder was supposed to be busy fighting for voting rights?

  50. 50.

    Marcopolo

    November 7, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    @NotMax: Hey, hey don’t color outside the lines when it comes to worrisome issues: it’s wearing mom pants & using fancy mustard we need to lose sleep over.

  51. 51.

    Miss Bianca

    November 7, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Granted, a horrible candidate with zero knowledge and zero political skills won the last election and is now befouling everything he touches, but do they want to be that guy?

    There are so many things to hate about Trump, but as I was saying the other day, one of the things that really makes me feel stabby is that literally any white guy in America can credibly claim to be *at least* as qualified to run for POTUS as Donald Trump was, and they wouldn’t be wrong.

    Needless to say, that is, or ought to be, a subterranean bar to cross.

  52. 52.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    November 7, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    I have personal reasons to hate Bloomberg and believe he has no business in national office. I don’t perhaps hate him as much as Trump, but he’s up there.

  53. 53.

    Timurid

    November 7, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    @Mary G:

    He’s not a white male, so centrists won’t bite. The moderate lane in the primary is smoking rubble right now, with the centrists only looking at the two most broken candidates in that group because they happen to be white males. And benign despotism by white males is a core component of the centrist platform.

  54. 54.

    Kraux Pas

    November 7, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I care about people and I can read. Maybe I should run!!!

  55. 55.

    trollhattan

    November 7, 2019 at 6:56 pm

    We report, you decide.

    A California woman is accused of having a crossbow and bolts outside the White House.

    The Washington Post reports 49-year-old Stacy Pamela Banta, of Sutter, was arrested Monday on charges of carrying a dangerous weapon and possessing a destructive device.

    A D.C. police report says the woman approached a uniformed Secret Service agent that night near the White House Visitor Center and told him she had crossbow bolts and a crossbow in her car. It says the agent found the loaded crossbow and several bolts in Banta’s vehicle.

    Banta’s father, 72-year-old Loren Banta, told the newspaper he doesn’t know why his President Donald Trump-supporting daughter would go to the White House.

    Matthew Hertz, Banta’s attorney, said he had no comment. Banta was freed and may appear in court Dec. 12.

  56. 56.

    Jeffro

    November 7, 2019 at 6:58 pm

    Remember when Gabbard went all GoT and declared that the race was between her and “Empress of Lies” Hillz? Wasn’t that like six months ago?

  57. 57.

    Kraux Pas

    November 7, 2019 at 6:59 pm

    @trollhattan: So she reported this weapon to authorities and wasn’t carrying it at the time. Then she was arrested.

    This is strange.

  58. 58.

    MoCA Ace

    November 7, 2019 at 7:02 pm

    OK Boomer

    Did I use that correctly? Since I’m a social media disconnected Gen-X’r I just heard the term a few days ago… I kinda like it.

  59. 59.

    Lauryn11

    November 7, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    Aw, give the people in Alabama credit. Roy Moore had a lawyer who was a Jew.

  60. 60.

    Karen

    November 7, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    I don’t get it. Isn’t there no primaries and the RNC only recognizing Trump? I don’t want him running third party because it would only hurt us.

  61. 61.

    Matt McIrvin

    November 7, 2019 at 7:07 pm

    Socially liberal, economically plutocratic rich guys continue to think they are the great American center. Dog bites man.

  62. 62.

    trollhattan

    November 7, 2019 at 7:08 pm

    @Kraux Pas:
    Yup, weird.

    “Hello officer, guess what I have in my car!” Since dad says she’s a Trump supporter it’s established she’s not right in the head. Dad may want to check around the house for more surprises.

  63. 63.

    NotMax

    November 7, 2019 at 7:09 pm

    @Marcopolo

    The tenor of many comments in this thread lead one to believe the people making them would have wasted no time spitting on (if not outright eviscerating) FDR for being a member of the fat cat phalanx in 1932.

    From a trivia/bar bet perspective, of some interest:

    The Complete Net Worth Of The American Presidents: From Washington To Obama

  64. 64.

    Martin

    November 7, 2019 at 7:09 pm

    Here’s the real risk of the wealth tax. Let’s say I’m worth $10B and could lose $200M a year for the next 4 years if Warren wins. Why wouldn’t I give that entire $800M to Trump’s campaign instead?

  65. 65.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    November 7, 2019 at 7:10 pm

    BREAKING: One of Mike Pence’s aides, who was on the Trump Ukraine call, testified today that the call was political—not diplomatic. This is getting terrible for Trump and worse for the GOP. All of their cover stories are getting obliterated. Public hearings start next week. Good.— Scott Dworkin (@funder) November 7, 2019

  66. 66.

    Baud

    November 7, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Pence wants the chair.

  67. 67.

    Martin

    November 7, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Hmm. So, is that Pence cutting his losses and twisting the knife into Trump, or is that Pence getting lashed to the mast as the professional staff continue to hack holes in the bottom of the ship?

  68. 68.

    Karen

    November 7, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    @trollhattan: Thank you for recognizing that “New Yorker” or “New York ways or values” is often code for “Jew.” I’m Jewish so I know this too.

  69. 69.

    Jeffro

    November 7, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    @Martin: wealth taxes are dumb

    Steeply progressive income tax rates, threading interest/dividend/capital gains the same as income = much smarter

  70. 70.

    Baud

    November 7, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    @Martin:

    Can’t do it directly because of campaign limits. Have to set up a superpac or something like that.

  71. 71.

    Chyron HR

    November 7, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    @Martin:

    “If we let you keep that money, you’ll just spend it on penny candy and nazis.”

  72. 72.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 7, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    @Baud: Maybe Pence has been told he won’t be on the ticket by Floriduh Man.

  73. 73.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 7, 2019 at 7:16 pm

    @Jeffro: Yup, a wealth tax could well be unconstitutional.

  74. 74.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    November 7, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Not to be all mysterious. It was during the 2004 Repub convention when Bloomberg ordered the cops to preemptively lock up thousands of protestors before they had a chance to march. They were kept locked up till W spoke. No hearing. No attorneys. Court orders from increasingly furious judges were ignored one after another.

    My daughter was one of the people in that filthy holding cell. She was 17.

  75. 75.

    anarchoRex

    November 7, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    @NotMax: unless Bloomberg is running on his own version of the Four Freedoms, I don’t see how the comparison is apt.

  76. 76.

    Matt McIrvin

    November 7, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    @NotMax: FDR was an aristocrat but on economic policy he was the guy pissing off the sober centrists.

  77. 77.

    Ladyraxterinok

    November 7, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    @TS (the original):
    Billionaires used to be satisfied ‘pulling the strings’ and being the ‘power behind the throne’. Now they want to BE the throne.

    I blame Romney. They figure he came close.

    And then Trump showed even the dumbest rich guy can buy/con enuff media attn to win.

    So I have a billion$, am bored, and say well why not. It might be entertaining

  78. 78.

    Baud

    November 7, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    I doubt he’s been explicitly told that. Trump isn’t the type to tell.

  79. 79.

    Just Chuck

    November 7, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    @NotMax: Good thing FDR had FDR as president, as opposed to one who just continued to enrich the super rich. FDR knew the pitchforks were coming out and did things about it.

  80. 80.

    Matt McIrvin

    November 7, 2019 at 7:19 pm

    @JMG: Good thing today was my don’t-bother-going-downtown day.

  81. 81.

    Mary G

    November 7, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: She said that Pence did not know anything about the extortion. She may need to revise her testimony like Sandland did.

  82. 82.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 7, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    @Baud: Maybe it was the visit from Ivanka measuring the drapes in the VP’s office that was the clue.

  83. 83.

    Matt McIrvin

    November 7, 2019 at 7:21 pm

    @Martin: I’d say go ahead! Trump has effectively infinite resources anyway, because he’s the President and a complete crook. More cash on hand probably isn’t going to change whether he wins or loses.

  84. 84.

    TS (the original)

    November 7, 2019 at 7:21 pm

    @Kent: Somebody might just convince enough people that there is an alternative to

    1. going bankrupt via health costs
    2. going to an grave saying – at least I didn’t vote for a wealth tax

    I live in hope.

    Any why call it a wealth tax – simply have a progressive tax system that the richer you are, the higher marginal tax you pay. Just call it a “fair & equitable tax system” – same as trump talks about his wonderful health care system that is open to all.

  85. 85.

    debbie

    November 7, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Whoever she is, good for her.

  86. 86.

    Ladyraxterinok

    November 7, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    @Mary G:
    Establishment Ds want Holder?!? Does not compute. Does not compute.

  87. 87.

    Uncle Cosmo

    November 7, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    I loves me some Mike Bloomberg…because ever since he started dropping 8- and 9-figure bundles of ca$h on our mutual alma mater, even the utterly unprincipled rapacious mofos who run it are for the most part too embarrassed to come whining to alums like me pleading poverty & begging for my money. At odd moments I find myself hoping JHU might sic some sophomore coed onto me (telephonically) to whimper about how their scholarships are going to be cut – just so I could reply, “Y’know, honey, I bet Mike Bloomberg could find a full ride for you stuck in his pocket lint, why don’t you have the Admin call & ask him?”

    As a Presidential candidate…not so much.

    I wonder if Bloomer’s entry isn’t prompted by a sense that the Biden campaign is like a woolly mammoth that the rest of the field has been shooting so many arrows into that it’s now about to collapse from blood loss – & that there’s no one else in the field who Trump wouldn’t beat. Even without Rooski help. (That, & the overweening vanity of the superduperrich, of course….)

  88. 88.

    Cheryl Rofer

    November 7, 2019 at 7:24 pm

    We few, we happy few, we band of billionaires! Owning it together!

    Did a quick search and found https://t.co/mi0HsoZhcX is up and running.

    It was registered on October 14, 2019.

    It was "paid for by supporters of Mike Bloomberg" but is still *quite* something. https://t.co/NjXzM4Z4mF pic.twitter.com/PmYqJccnFf

    — Jake Bunger (@jakebunger) November 7, 2019

  89. 89.

    JMG

    November 7, 2019 at 7:25 pm

    @Kraux Pas: Do you know how many New Hampshire voters work in Boston? It’s a lot. Clinton won New Hampshire by a thread last time. This was a dumb political move, period.

  90. 90.

    Kraux Pas

    November 7, 2019 at 7:25 pm

    @trollhattan: You’re right, but what I thought was weird was the SS penalizing someone for notifying them of a potential, but inactive, threat.

    That’s something someone might do to protect themself. “Hey, officer, I have a gun safely stored away.”

  91. 91.

    Martin

    November 7, 2019 at 7:27 pm

    @Baud: That’s one way. Or could buy that buy those $800M golf shoes at Trump National.

  92. 92.

    Uncle Cosmo

    November 7, 2019 at 7:28 pm

    @Baud:

    Pence wants the chair.

    Fine by me. AC or DC?

  93. 93.

    debbie

    November 7, 2019 at 7:28 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Bet those tees are pricy, real pricy.

  94. 94.

    NotMax

    November 7, 2019 at 7:29 pm

    @anarchoRex

    I was not and am not trying to equate Bloomberg with FDR in any manner other than the fact of great personal wealth, which is the measure seized on by many here as being disqualifying in and of itself.

  95. 95.

    smintheus

    November 7, 2019 at 7:30 pm

    @trollhattan: A commenter at LGM said on a thread there (apropos of something else) that he/she had come across a recent issue of a bowhunting magazine that portrayed Trump as a friend of bowhunters because (?!) he’d done it himself. Maybe this weirdo showed up trying to impress her orange savior.

  96. 96.

    Uncle Cosmo

    November 7, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    @anarchoRex: Except that

    The Four Freedoms were goals articulated by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt on Monday, January 6, 1941. In an address known as the Four Freedoms speech (technically the 1941 State of the Union address).

    IOW Roosevelt had already won his first 3 Presidential elections before even mentioning the term.

    It’s probably also good to note here that in the 1932 election FDR’s major policy promise was to balance the Federal budget. Hah.

  97. 97.

    Msilaneous

    November 7, 2019 at 7:36 pm

  98. 98.

    Mnemosyne

    November 7, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    Does anyone outside of NYC give a shit? Seriously.

  99. 99.

    secret Russian anarchoRex

    November 7, 2019 at 7:39 pm

    @NotMax: fair enough.

  100. 100.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 7, 2019 at 7:40 pm

    Yep.

    Gov. Matt Bevin Refuses to Concede Kentucky Race, Even After Secretary of State Calls It for Democrat Andy Beshear https://t.co/QpMl5omGBH <— are we preparing for the good chance that Cheeto Satan will also refuse to concede in 2020?— Awesomely Luvvie (@Luvvie) November 7, 2019

  101. 101.

    secret Russian anarchoRex

    November 7, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: is that completely accurate? He’d already been touting the New Deal in his first election. Fair point about the Four Freedoms though, I was just trying to illustrate the difference in substance between FDR and Bloomberg.

  102. 102.

    MomSense

    November 7, 2019 at 7:43 pm

    @Baud:

    Word.
    ?

  103. 103.

    Uncle Cosmo

    November 7, 2019 at 7:43 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: I should note FTR that when I matriculated at Johns Hopkins (long enough ago that the only way anyone lacking a Y chromosome could enroll as an undergrad was if her parent was on the faculty) the financial aid the school offered me was less than the General Scholarship I got from the State of MD – because my father (a semi-skilled machine operator) made too much money. We took the State’s $500 & told them to go pound sand.

  104. 104.

    Kraux Pas

    November 7, 2019 at 7:44 pm

    @NotMax:

    I was not and am not trying to equate Bloomberg with FDR in any manner other than the fact of great personal wealth, which is the measure seized on by many here as being disqualifying in and of itself.

    That’s not how I’ve understood the nature of the criticism of billionaire candidates. It’s more that these billionaires see themselves as so self-evidently qualified. Almost an inversion of what you say here.

  105. 105.

    misterpuff

    November 7, 2019 at 7:45 pm

    It’s more than a little funny that the first state he’s going to file in is Alabama, where he’ll be about as welcome as a pregnant nun in a convent, a fart in church, or a imam at a Trump rally.

    Or Liz Warren in a Boardroom.

  106. 106.

    Rob

    November 7, 2019 at 7:48 pm

    Bloomberg, nooooo. Aieeeh.

  107. 107.

    NotMax

    November 7, 2019 at 7:51 pm

    @Kraux Pas

    I shy away from engaging in armchair desk chair psychological analysis. But if I did I’d posit it a plus when the hard reality hits that they are not “self-evidently qualified.”

  108. 108.

    J R in WV

    November 7, 2019 at 7:52 pm

    @Kent:

    I agree that they are afraid of the conversation about their ill-gotten billions of dollars.

    But your last sentence:

    And that maybe Warren will set the stage for her predecessor to actually get something done with a better Congress.

    Makes little sense — IF Senator Warren is elected President, her predecessor will be Trump… what were you trying to say instead of what you typoed?

  109. 109.

    Baud

    November 7, 2019 at 7:56 pm

    @J R in WV:

    — IF Senator Warren is elected President, her predecessor will be Trump Pence Pelosi

    Fixed.

  110. 110.

    Ohio Mom

    November 7, 2019 at 7:56 pm

    @Marcopolo: Warren’s tax calculator is a hoot, thanks for the link.

    For those of you who haven’t seen it yet, it lists what various billionaires would pay under her plan.

    All the big names are there: Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, the DeVos family, Charles Koch, etc., and Mike Bloomberg heads the list.

    So I can see why he might take Warren’s candidacy as a personal affront. Heh.

  111. 111.

    secret Russian anarchoRex

    November 7, 2019 at 7:57 pm

    @J R in WV: pretty clearly he meant succesor ?

  112. 112.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 7, 2019 at 7:57 pm

    SHOCK POLL

    Iowa — Quinnipiac Poll — Nov 5, 2019

    Warren………….20%
    Pete………………19%
    Wilmer…………..17%
    Biden…………….15%
    Amy………………..5%
    Kamala……………4%

    Holy cow! Just 6 weeks ago Pete was at 9% to Warren’s 22%

    I always thought Biden’s collapse would open the door for Warren, but looks like it’s opening the door for Pete.

  113. 113.

    Mary G

    November 7, 2019 at 7:58 pm

    Mike may also have sort of a MeToo problem:

    In 1998 deposition “never before made public, Michael Bloomberg said he would believe a rape charge only if it was supported by “an unimpeachable third-party” witness” + accused ex-employee who said she’d been raped by a Bloomberg exec of “extortion.” https://t.co/khlOI9jIea— Marcus Baram (@mbaram) November 8, 2019

    That makes me furious. Who the fuck brings along an unimpeachable third party when he feels like raping someone? “Sister Mary Joseph, can you come out to the alley for a minute?” smdh

  114. 114.

    Baud

    November 7, 2019 at 8:00 pm

    @David ??Booooooo?? Koch:

    Fascinating. Too bad Wilmer is still sticking around.

  115. 115.

    Mnemosyne

    November 7, 2019 at 8:01 pm

    @David ??Booooooo?? Koch:

    We keep trying to tell you dudes that misogyny is a problem, and you keep being shocked to find out that there’s a sizable percentage of voters who want their presidential candidate to have a peni$ and don’t really care who it is.

  116. 116.

    Steeplejack

    November 7, 2019 at 8:04 pm

    @smintheus:

    Chris Hayes just came on and seemed to indicate Bloomberg would run as a Democratic. “What does this mean for the Democratic field?”

  117. 117.

    Baud

    November 7, 2019 at 8:04 pm

    @Mary G:

    Who the fuck brings along an unimpeachable third party when he feels like raping someone? 

    People with butlers.

  118. 118.

    Kent

    November 7, 2019 at 8:04 pm

    @Martin:

    Here’s the real risk of the wealth tax. Let’s say I’m worth $10B and could lose $200M a year for the next 4 years if Warren wins. Why wouldn’t I give that entire $800M to Trump’s campaign instead?

    Because they wouldn’t really be giving it to the Trump Campaign, they’d be giving it directly to Trump. The entire campaign is a front for graft. If an $800 million contribution rolled in (assuming that was even legal) they would just figure out how to skim off $799 million in fees and rents to the Trump Tower and catering costs and consulting fees to the Trump clan and what not. You give to the Trump Campaign, you are just giving the money directly to the Trumps.

  119. 119.

    Kent

    November 7, 2019 at 8:05 pm

    @J R in WV:I meant successor, obviously.

  120. 120.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    November 7, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    @David Booooooo Koch: Anecdotal but when I was in Iowa earlier this week, the only presidential signs I saw in my friend’s neighborhood in Waterloo were for Mayor Pete. I think he has a good organization in IA.

  121. 121.

    Mary G

    November 7, 2019 at 8:07 pm

    1/ If you want to point a finger at two men with absolute certainty of guilt when Trump gets re-elected by Bloomberg and Tom Steyer.I can't explain to you even a tenth of their resources would do to alter the battlefield in this campaign.— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 7, 2019

    2/ If they really cared about defeating Trump both of those men would be up on the fucking air right now with a massive tv and digital campaign nuking the living shit out of him in the 15 swing States.But no. They have to jerk themselves off in public.— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 7, 2019

    Rick is a dishonest ratfucker, but he isn’t wrong.

  122. 122.

    NotMax

    November 7, 2019 at 8:07 pm

    @David Booooooo Koch

    Iowa is notoriously difficult to poll and famously fickle when it comes to polling results. Seem to recall that Ben Carson was a favorite in Iowa polling at about this point four years ago.

    Also too, as always never take any single poll as indicative of a trend.

  123. 123.

    Kent

    November 7, 2019 at 8:10 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Gov. Matt Bevin Refuses to Concede Kentucky Race, Even After Secretary of State Calls It for Democrat Andy Beshear https://t.co/QpMl5omGBH <— are we preparing for the good chance that Cheeto Satan will also refuse to concede in 2020?— Awesomely Luvvie (@Luvvie) November 7, 2019

    Well, each state certifies its own results state by state and the House of Representatives certifies the Electoral College vote. There really isn’t any avenue through which he could contest the overall result with the Dems in control of the House, just individual state results as in Bush v. Gore.

  124. 124.

    Redshift

    November 7, 2019 at 8:13 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Conceding is a courtesy thing, it doesn’t have any legal weight. As has been pointed out, Roy Moore has never conceded. (Nor, I think, did Stacy Abrams; she accepted the result but didn’t concede because it was clearly unjust.)

    So concession is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is whether he tries to stay in power. And I really doubt anyone would story him in that, the personal risk would be high with little chance of reward.

  125. 125.

    Matt McIrvin

    November 7, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    @Redshift: Depends. Is it a close election with crazy recounts and judges weighing in, like 2000? Then all sorts of horrible things have a chance of a payoff. Maybe they can even make it be like that, whether it’s close or not, just by gaslighting everyone enough.

  126. 126.

    Steeplejack

    November 7, 2019 at 8:26 pm

    @debbie:

    The T-shirts are only $20.20. Get it? Get it?!

    I’m tempted to get one just for “historical oddity” purposes.

    Also interesting, there is no indication of party affilation on the Bloomberg 2020 site.

  127. 127.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    November 7, 2019 at 8:29 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
    However, a bunch of KY Rs are urging him to put up or shut up, so we’ll see. KY Senate President Stivers’ comments disturbed me when he basically argued the Legislature could declare Bevin the winner simply because the Libertarian’s votes would have likely gone to Bevin if the (L) hadn’t run.

  128. 128.

    Steeplejack

    November 7, 2019 at 8:31 pm

    @Mary G:

    Wait, Pence has an aide who is a woman?! That cannot be. They might accidentally end up alone in the same room together! What would Mother say?

  129. 129.

    Gravenstone

    November 7, 2019 at 8:32 pm

    @Kent: They’re afraid that if the sentiment resonates with enough people to get her elected, it will lead to a change that adversely affects their wealth. Not immediately, as you noted a Congress during a Warren administration would still be too conservative. But that first step is the one they’re terrified of. What the second, and all the following steps would mean to them.

  130. 130.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    November 7, 2019 at 8:34 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
    WP thought my original comment was spam for some reason, so here’s the original link: Could Matt Bevin Steal the Kentucky Governor’s Election?

    But Bevin may be doing more than that, and here’s where things can get weird. Kentucky has a set of rules to resolve contested elections, but those rules do not apply to a governor’s race. Instead, the state constitution provides that “Contested elections for Governor and Lieutenant Governor shall be determined by both Houses of the General Assembly, according to such regulations as may be established by law.” According to the Louisville Courier-Journal, the last time the Legislature resolved a governor’s race under this procedure was 1899.

    Suppose, as seems most likely, that Bevin cannot come up with evidence of voter fraud or other problems that could plausibly swing a 5,000-vote margin. Would the Republican-dominated Legislature still attempt to hand the governorship back to Bevin? If it did hand Bevin the victory—even without evidence of fraud or major error—could federal courts refuse to review the decision as an action committed by the state legislature in accordance with the state constitution?

    […]

    If the Kentucky Legislature did go through with a theft attempt, no doubt Beshear would file a lawsuit in federal court. As Sam Marcosson, a constitutional law professor at the University of Louisville Brandeis School of Law, told the Courier-Journal:

    If the House and Senate were just to proceed on vague allegations without proof, that raises serious questions about disenfranchisement of the voters who voted for Attorney General Beshear. It’s an extraordinary proposition to suggest that the General Assembly would take vague allegations of unspecified irregularities and call into question a gubernatorial election.

    It is not certain that federal courts would get involved, perhaps preferring to leave matters in the hands of political branches granted the power to resolve disputes under the state constitution. Still, Beshear would be able to raise arguments under the 14th Amendment’s equal protection and due process clauses. He could also point to the part of Bush v. Gore—the decision ending the 2000 presidential contest—that held “having once granted the right to vote on equal terms,” a state “may not, by later arbitrary and disparate treatment, value one person’s vote over that of another.” A system that declares the election loser the winner on arbitrary grounds would certainly value the votes for the loser over those of the winner.

    Such an effort would also violate due process, which protects against arbitrary government treatment in elections. It calls to mind an important 1995 11th Circuit case, Roe v. Alabama, which found a due process violation when a state appeared to change the rules for conducting recounts for a state supreme court race after the election was held. If the Kentucky Legislature adopts new contest rules that deprive Beshear of fundamental fairness, that could violate due process under Roe.

    A lot of bad things would have to happen for Beshear not to be the next governor of Kentucky. Either the election would have to be so marred by fraud or problems that it fairly calls the results into question, or the Kentucky Legislature would have to abandon democratic values and allow the election loser to become the election winner, with federal courts staying on the sidelines.

    We may not live in ordinary times, but if the latter scenario comes to pass, our democracy is in great trouble as we look ahead to 2020.

  131. 131.

    Dan B

    November 7, 2019 at 8:34 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I believe there are lots of voters who believe the Presnit must be a warrior and wimmens are not. They go for a woman if that woman is a hawk from a very conservative party, the Thatcher effect. It’s a twist on misogyny, sorta misogyny 2.B. or 1.B.

    Okaaay, it’s misogyny. But there are many flavors like the type too many women buy into. Fish don’t notice the water either.

    We should be so lucky to get a woman in the White House by hook or by crook and in charge of the Senate and put the US back on track and every citizen blissfully happy.

  132. 132.

    Gravenstone

    November 7, 2019 at 8:36 pm

    @Baud: Let’s make sure we wire it up properly before we give it to him.

  133. 133.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    November 7, 2019 at 8:39 pm

    @Baud:

    Pence wants the chair.

    Sore is the ass that sits on the gold-plated porcelain throne

  134. 134.

    Steeplejack

    November 7, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    @Msilaneous:

    Fixed your link. “Presidential Candidate Pete Buttigieg Blocking Press from Attending RI Event.”

    You have to close the FYWP link after you insert the hyperlink. Mash the “link” button again, which should be showing up as “/link” until the link is closed.

  135. 135.

    Martin

    November 7, 2019 at 8:41 pm

    Alternate headline: Rich, self-important old NY white guy seeks presidency.

    And someone thinks this would be appealing to Democratic voters?

  136. 136.

    SiubhanDuinne

    November 7, 2019 at 8:42 pm

    @Karen:

    Thank you for recognizing that “New Yorker” or “New York ways or values” is often code for “Jew.”

    IIRC, the first episode of The West Wing had an exchange between Toby and Josh making this very point.

  137. 137.

    Miss Bianca

    November 7, 2019 at 8:43 pm

    @Kraux Pas: go for it!

  138. 138.

    Another Scott

    November 7, 2019 at 8:44 pm

    @Ruckus: “There’s one for you, 19 for me…”

    As long as there are real, significant, needs to be addressed, it’s hard for me to get upset about marginal rates as high as 95% for the stratospherically high income people. For them, it’s not the money that’s important (they’ll never ever be able to spend it all), it’s that they have more than their near peers.

    “Oh, Muffy dear, we only took home $837,572,108.05 this year. That extra 95% tax over $1B was a killer!!”

    :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  139. 139.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 7, 2019 at 8:45 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: No, conceding still has no legal weight.

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: Oh for fucks sake.

  140. 140.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    November 7, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I don’t think it’s particularly likely, Omnes, just a possibility. Though it’s disturbing that the KY legislature stealing the election is even a semi-plausible scenario, but the last few years have been crazy. My comment at 124 has a link to an article where KY Rs are urging Bevin to put up or shut up

  141. 141.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 7, 2019 at 8:52 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: It isn’t even semi-plausible.

  142. 142.

    Mnemosyne

    November 7, 2019 at 8:52 pm

    @Dan B:

    As I was saying on Facebook today, in 2016 white women made a choice between supporting women and supporting white supremacy, and WAY too many of them threw their lot in with white supremacy.

  143. 143.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    November 7, 2019 at 8:55 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Look, we’re not fundamentally disagreeing here. I think it’s very unlikely it will happen

  144. 144.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 7, 2019 at 8:57 pm

    @JMG:

    Pence went to New Hampshire to file for Trump today and took his motorcade down I-93 to Logan Airport at rush hour!

    It’s an asshole move by an asshole.

  145. 145.

    Ken

    November 7, 2019 at 9:02 pm

    If Bloomberg did somehow become the Democratic nominee, who’d win New York’s electoral votes? Because there’s no way either Trump or Bloomberg could win their (one-time) home state, everyone there knows them.

  146. 146.

    Gvg

    November 7, 2019 at 9:08 pm

    @NotMax: no what is disqualifying is not having any other qualifications.
    And actually Bloomberg has governmental experience. I would rank his as above the other rich white guys except Biden who also has experience. I do not like idiots thinking anyone can be President. I don’t care for Bloomburg’s Policies though. He also owns a real news site which is an advantage over most of the others. I just don’t think he is in tune with this time, so I expect him to lose pretty quickly. Also anyone entering this late, is not a good planner IMO.
    I want the field to narrow to “real chance” candidates soon, so people can hear real informative debates. But if wishes were horses Trump would have never even run…

  147. 147.

    Uncle Cosmo

    November 7, 2019 at 9:12 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: I don’t understand why you “don’t think it’s particularly likely.” This is the political party that had their pet Extreme Court justices steal the 2000 presidential election for them. And after the theft was consummated, they governed as if they’d won a landslide, without even paying lip service to the rights of the losers. (ETA: I know this is ancient history for you – were you even out of kindergarten when that happened?)

    Power is all they want. All well & good if they can win it fair & square, but if they can’t, they will steal it if they can rather than concede it.

    I get this sinking feeling that the best-selling Democratic bumper sticker of 2020 will read REMEMBER KENTUCKY.

  148. 148.

    J R in WV

    November 7, 2019 at 9:13 pm

    @Baud:

    @J R in WV:

    — IF Senator Warren is elected President, her predecessor will be Trump Pence Pelosi

    Fixed.

    Good point; we all hope so! Thanks ;-)

  149. 149.

    NotMax

    November 7, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    @Gvg

    Look, I’m not arguing the presence or lack of merit re: Bloomberg and have no intention of doing so. All I’m saying is the knee-jerk brandishing of pitchforks and torches when wealth is a factor is both tiresome and unfruitful.

  150. 150.

    Msilaneous

    November 7, 2019 at 9:21 pm

    @Steeplejack: Thank you!

  151. 151.

    J R in WV

    November 7, 2019 at 9:25 pm

    @Kent:

    @J R in WV:I meant successor, obviously.

    Many people have told me that… but such a easy target! ;-) And baud’s “fixed” to my somewhat snotty reply was so good~!!~

    No offense taken I hope!

  152. 152.

    tomtofa

    November 7, 2019 at 9:25 pm

    I liked Bloomberg’s comment that he wouldn’t be going on an ‘apology tour’ for being a white man ‘over 50 years old’. How about for being a white man almost 80 years old?

  153. 153.

    J R in WV

    November 7, 2019 at 9:32 pm

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Look, we’re not fundamentally disagreeing here. I think it’s very unlikely it will happen

    You guys didn’t see the election Gore won, but Bush became President, right?

  154. 154.

    Peale

    November 7, 2019 at 9:33 pm

    @tomtofa: and just how exactly is mayor stop and frisk planning on convincing our most loyal voting block to come out to the polls? Magic?

  155. 155.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 7, 2019 at 9:34 pm

    @J R in WV: Do you think that it is likely to happen?

  156. 156.

    bemused senior

    November 7, 2019 at 9:58 pm

    NotMax: Beware!

  157. 157.

    Jay

    November 7, 2019 at 10:02 pm

    New reporting reveals that the scumbag, knowing his time in office is centimeters from crashing, has already identified a return to TV as his next effort in bilking the public, for which many other TV scumbags will welcome him with open arms, because scumbags.— Ron Perlman (@perlmutations) November 8, 2019

    Ron Pearlman is a treasure.

  158. 158.

    NotMax

    November 7, 2019 at 10:14 pm

    @bemused senior
    Different island altogether.

    …resting at the bottom of the two-foot-wide lava tube, 22 feet below ground.

    Not the optimum choice of a verb there.

  159. 159.

    Zinsky

    November 7, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    Michael Bloomberg is as irrelevant as a screen door on a submarine. The ego on these rich old white men is horrifying to witness!

  160. 160.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 7, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    @Jay: TV scumbags? Looking at you Mark Burnett!

    Tell me, how does one host a TV show from the gallows constructed to hang you in Central Park?

  161. 161.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 7, 2019 at 10:21 pm

    @Zinsky:

    Michael Bloomberg is as irrelevant as a screen door on a submarine.

    I’d think a screendoor on submarine would be very relevant. As in, “Why the fuck did you build a submarine with a screen door?!” :)

  162. 162.

    Jay

    November 7, 2019 at 10:22 pm

    Speaking of submarines, ( made of cheese)

    Alarming news for UK #security & #democracy:PM Johnson blocks #RussiaReport 'because it contains info that would call into question legitimacy of [Brexit] referendum' !!#DefendOurDemocracy #GE2019?️#ReleaseTheRussiaReport #ISCreport https://t.co/TmrKcngJNQ— Alice Stollmeyer (@StollmeyerEU) November 7, 2019

  163. 163.

    Jay

    November 7, 2019 at 10:23 pm

    Stuck in moderation for hashtags,

  164. 164.

    Jay

    November 7, 2019 at 10:25 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    You are counting on a sweeping clean of the festering rot,

    You might not want to do that.

  165. 165.

    tomtofa

    November 7, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    @Peale:

    and just how exactly is mayor stop and frisk planning on convincing our most loyal voting block to come out to the polls? Magic?

    In the bit I heard he hadn’t quite gotten around to that . . .

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