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Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

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He imagines himself as The Big Bad, Who Is Universally Feared… instead of The Big Jagoff, Who Is Universally Mocked.

… gradually, and then suddenly.

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Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: Don Jr. Staggers Along In His Old Man’s Footsteps

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Sure, it’s perfect as an easy punch line: Don the Lesser, his girlfriend/handler, and Charlie ‘Diaper Boy’ Kirk fall victim to the narcissism of small differences, but from rightwingers this time! However, when you pay attention to the ‘activists’, it’s uglier and potentially far more dangerous… as always, when it comes to the Trump “brand”…

… At first, Trump and Guilfoyle tried to ignore the discontent, which originated with a fringe group of America Firsters who believe the Trump administration has been taken captive by a cabal of internationalists, free-traders, and apologists for mass immigration.

When the shouting would not subside, Trump Jr tried – and failed – to argue that taking questions from the floor risked creating soundbites that leftwing social media posters would abuse and distort. Nobody was buying that.

In minutes, the entire argument put forward by the president’s son – that he was willing to engage in dialogue but that it was the left that refused to tolerate free speech – crumbled…

The fiasco pointed to a factional rift on the Trump-supporting conservative right that has been growing rapidly in recent weeks, particularly among “zoomers” – student-age activists. On one side are one of the sponsors of Trump Jr’s book tour, Turning Point USA, a campus conservative group with a track record of bringing provocative rightwing speakers to liberal universities.

On the other side are far-right activists – often referred to as white supremacists and neo-Nazis, although many of them reject such labels – who believe in slamming the door on all immigrants, not just those who cross the border without documents, and who want an end to America’s military and diplomatic engagement with the wider world.

A number of the loudest voices at Sunday’s event were supporters of Nick Fuentes, a 21-year-old activist with a podcast called America First that has taken particular aim at Turning Point USA and its 25-year-old founder, Charlie Kirk. In a number of his own recent campus appearances, Kirk has faced questions accusing him of being more interested in supporting Israel than in putting America first. He has responded by calling his detractors conspiracists and racists.

On Sunday, Kirk appeared alongside Trump Jr. and Guilfoyle but said nothing…

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  9. 9.

    JWR

    @Timurid:

    You could say he was… triggered.

    Ha ha! I used that word earlier this evening while “lecturing” (her word, not mine), my mom about the beneficial role unions have played throughout our history, and how both a younger brother and sister, who are both True Believer Foxbots / Dittoheads, know exactly how to “Trigger” me, which is, I believe, a talent learned directly from Fox U. I felt badly about some of the conversation, but geez, I is surrounded!

  11. 11.

    Redshift

    Err.. Michelle Malkin, daughter of immigrants from the Philippines, speaks out in support of white supremacists?

    I guess there are always toadies who think they can suck up enough that it’ll never turn on them…

  12. 12.

    Cradicus

    Is literally every right wing thing that’s supposed to be funny called “Triggered?” They can’t even find another trope to make fun of?

  17. 17.

    mrmoshpotato

    a fringe group of America Firsters who believe the Trump administration has been taken captive by a cabal of internationalists, free-traders, and apologists for mass immigration

    When this Nazi, white trashionalist administration isn’t hateful enough for you.

    Stephen Miller knows he’s Jewish, right? He knows he’s not safe from the Nazier trash right?

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    Don’t we deserve a more congenial final post on the soon to become history version of B-J than raving fascist loons with an extra helping of mini-dolt?

  21. 21.

    Sab

    Ruckus: utterly off topic. I need laundry advice. My step-son is a machinist. His girlfriend’s washing machine broke, so he brings his workclothes over to our house. Yuck. Soaked in oil, with tiny metal filings. Is there anything special I need to do as far as washing them? They never seem to come out clean ( i.e. not still oily.) My husband has his advice, but he only worked in rubber companies, never in a machine shop. I only have done office work, so this is way out of my area.

  24. 24.

    Sab

    @Mary G: I wonder if that’s why my spouse hates cilantro. I thought he was just being unadventurous on food.

    Kind of like the broccoli haters. It’s not their fault. It’s their chemistry.

  29. 29.

    NotMax

    @Sab

    Sounds strange but some people swear by adding a can of Coca-Cola along with the detergent in the washer. And then running the washer, empty, through a hot cycle afterwards in order to remove any residue which might be left coating the tub.

  34. 34.

    Sab

    @NotMax: Will that damage an HE (sic/newfangled) machine?

    Should we be washing his clothes hot?

    We run our bathmats through after his clothes cycles. Too much sharing, but our mini-rott thinks we pee in the bathroom so why shouldn’t she. So we go through about 4 bathmats every day.

  38. 38.

    Sab

    @mrmoshpotato: Apparently some people lack some sort of enzyme, so when they eat broccoli it tastes terribly bitter. (HW Bush had that problem, and as I remember actually fired a White House chef who persisted in serving it.) Such unfortunates’ mothers think they are just being difficult.

    It was a real eye-opener to me, because I love that whole family of plants. I even eat kale because I like it, not just because it is good for me.

  39. 39.

    NotMax

    @Sab

    Never have tried it myself (vaguely remember the tip from a Hints From Heloise – or similar – column many years back). That said, don’t see how just one can could damage the machine. If really worried about that, you could try presoaking them overnight in a separate external tub in a mix of Coke and water and then wring them out by hand before putting into the machine. Wash at the recommended temp for the clothes. Shouldn’t think hot is necessary as it might shrink the fabric or cause colors to run.

  42. 42.

    JWR

    @Mary G: LoL. I have a similar reaction to bay leaves. Food cooked with them tastes to me like perfume. Or what perfume would taste like if I ate perfume. Maybe the aroma is what does it.

  45. 45.

    opiejeanne

    @NotMax: I have been soaking our pillow cases in hot water with some shampoo in it, before wringing them out and washing them in the machine. I also add about a cup of white vinegar to the washer. Gets rid of the smell of hair oil. One of us has very oily skin despite washing his face and hair before going to bed.

  49. 49.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    Ya say you’re bored cause Balloon Juice is down, ya miss the ol’ “On The Road” morning pics? Have I got a website for you! Just head on over to my Patreon. Most of the posts are open to the public for FREE! That’s right, no more cost than a click of a mouse.

  50. 50.

    opiejeanne

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I’ve never heard of a genetic problem with broccoli, just the cilantro thing. My kids adored broccoli, and fresh spinach. I experienced canned spinach just once in my childhood and vowed to never again have anything to do with the stuff.

  51. 51.

    Sab

    @NotMax: I forget:which side of the mayonnaise battle did you come down on?

    I have a cajun relative who pronounces it “my-naze.” I always loved that.

  56. 56.

    Sab

    @NotMax:OMG. Antimacassars. When we cleaned out my mother’s house she had a whole drawer full of them from her mother’s house. All carefully crocheted.

    I gave them to my craftish niece to figure out a new purpose for them. I hope thy don’t end up framed on her wall.

  60. 60.

    JAFD

    I like kale (But then, half my ancestors came from the fringe of The Celtic Fringe)
    The only time I voluntarily eat spinach is when it’s filling for those Greek pastries
    I like brussels sprouts, but when I eat them for dinner, they stage a protest march around my guts at 3 AM
    I’m a gringo boomer from the Middle Atlantic, didn’t run into serious Mexican food into middle age, not sure what cilantro tastes like…
    I have never tried chocolate-covered insects, and never intend to. (Chocolate-covered cheerleaders, OTOH…)

    During the Little Depression, lived for year in welfare motel, batterie de cuisine consisting of mini-refrigerator and crapped-out microwave. Got to point where I felt like I’d kill for a slice of hot buttered toast. Then got invited to spend weekend with friends. Got there, was told “We’ve gone to a gluten-free diet, so there’s no bread in house. Hope you won’t mind…”

    Mrs. Schlorers’ is the best mayonnaise, more vinegar and less sugar than other major brands. They also seem to produce the house brand for ShopRite. Of course, there are alternatives; “A unique tradition among the better families was the interest which men took in cooking: often the men marketed for meat, and, curious fact, it was their prerogative to make mayonnaise.” (from Philadelphia: Patricians and Philistines, 1900-1950 By John Lukacs)

    Otherwise, I eat what’s in front of me, and am thankful.

    Happy Wednesday, everyone

  62. 62.

    Aleta

    @Sab: You could try borax. (It’s In a box called “20 mule team borax” in the aisle of laundry detergents.) I’ve used it for grease. (Works for mildew too.)

    ETA I use vinegar a lot on oil, like opiejeanne said.

  63. 63.

    Sab

    @Aleta: Genius idea. Plus I have a couple of boxes of it from days when I needed it for roach control (I do not miss life in the South.)

    ETA: I had been using it for ant control, but cinnamon works better, and is much safer for the cats.

  64. 64.

    M. Bouffant

    Welp, pro-cilantro, anti-broccoli. I like raw spinach in a salad w/ dressing, but cooking it either makes it awful or I’ve never had it prepared well.

  65. 65.

    Sab

    @M. Bouffant: My husband likes spinach cooked with vinegar, which I find appalling. It reminds him of his mother.

    James Beard has a recipe I love. He sauteed it in olive oil with a bit of garlic and nutmeg.

  66. 66.

    JWR

    There are three key messages the White House is pushing: “The president has done nothing wrong. Read the transcript,” the senior White House official said, echoing the president’s frequent tweets regarding the call with Zelensky.

    We read the “transcript”. That is why we’re here, nimrod. Next.

    Second, “whether you’re Republican, Democrat or independent, you understand fundamental fairness, and due process under the Constitution is not being granted. It is not being given,” a senior White House official said. “People understand that at its core.”

    Rs and Ds get equal time. That’s how due process works, klutzo. Next.

    And third, “Democrats are doing nothing else,” referring to inaction in Congress.

    McConnel’s got a great big stack of things the Democrats have been doing, arsehole! (They’re really going all-in with that defense, aren’t they? Wow.)

  68. 68.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Sab:

    I need laundry advice. My step-son is a machinist. His girlfriend’s washing machine broke, so he brings his workclothes over to our house. Yuck. Soaked in oil, with tiny metal filings. Is there anything special I need to do as far as washing them?

    Yeah, tell him to take that nasty shit to the laundromat.

    ETA those little metal filings?They’re hell on machinery of any kind. What do you think tore up his gf’s machine?

  70. 70.

    Anne Laurie

    @opiejeanne:

    I’ve never heard of a genetic problem with broccoli, just the cilantro thing.

    It’s real — look up ‘supertasters’.

    The Spousal Unit hates broccoli *and* cilantro, not because it tastes like soap, but because ‘it’s too strong’ — even the smell of cilantro makes him gag.

    Living with him for 40 years has severely damaged my tolerance for spicy foods, but I still get takeout from my favorite Indian restaurant a couple times a month. He’ll bring it home for me, as long as I don’t try to persuade him ‘this dish isn’t hardly spicy *at all*… ‘

  71. 71.

    satby

    @Sab: a mechanic friend used to swear by the old detergent Wisk for getting the grease out of his clothes. Fels Naptha is an old style laundry soap you can use to pretreat especially bad stains. And Biz enzyme detergent booster can really help too.
    I’m not a mechanic, but making soap means I’m constantly working with fats and oils, so my laundry mix is borax, washing soda (both are water softeners), Biz, and usually Tide. Vinegar is good in a first rinse to deordorize, but it can reduce the effectiveness of soaps and detergents in a wash cycle.
    Don’t use any of the currently popular homemade laundry soaps that are around. They usually contain mostly borax and washing soda with very little soap and they leave a lot of residue on clothing. A lot of residue.
    Edit: plus what Ozark said. Take them to a laundromat. I take all the dog beds there, even though I have a great washer and dryer at home.

  72. 72.

    Sab

    @OzarkHillbilly: I know. That was the whole point of owning a house, for my own washing machine, where my nice office clothes wouldn’t follow somebody else’s industrial work clothes.

    But the kid is a step-kid, and I want to stay married.

    Plus he is a 21st century worker, and laundromats ain’t cheap.

  73. 73.

    Sab

    @satby: As a poison ivy sensitive person, I have about six bars of fels naptha around. I’ll try that.

    So you disagree about borax?

    ETA: re-read your comment and I am guessing you are okay with borax if used in addition to Tide.

  75. 75.

    Aleta

    Re the backdrop for junior’s tour, I wonder who gave the green light to the slogan ↻TP USA. Was it left over from a failed product launch for reusable toilet paper and they got it cheap?

  79. 79.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Sab: Then tell your husband, “Your kid? Your problem.” Seriously, I would not allow it. I spent decades working in nasty shit. And plenty of time in laundromats. There are worse places in the world. You are right tho, they can be expensive. That’s where I met my ex. Took me decades to pay off that load of laundry.

  80. 80.

    NeenerNeener

    @Sab: Rub the grease spots with Lestoil, let sit for about an hour, wash in the warmest water that fabric can take. And if that fails lay flat and spoon corn starch on each grease spot, let it sit for an hour or two and then wipe off. I saved a few of my favorite shirts last weekend this way. Pine Sol is supposed to work if you can’t find Lestoil.

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