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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Hail to the Hairpiece / Monday Morning Open Thread: Hail to the Occupant

Monday Morning Open Thread: Hail to the Occupant

by Anne Laurie|  November 25, 20194:30 am| 212 Comments

This post is in: Hail to the Hairpiece, Impeachment Inquiry, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, All Too Normal, Decline and Fall

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Donald Trump has taken to “working” from his private quarters in the White House rather than the Oval Office because he distrusts the staff around him. https://t.co/TbogjsPREs pic.twitter.com/CyFvdjLSem

— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) November 24, 2019

This maaay sound familiar to those of us old enough to remember Nixon during the Watergate investigation. Per Politico:

… President Donald Trump is increasingly morphing the White House residence into a second Oval. It’s become the place where Trump feels most productive, where he avoids meddling by his staff and where he speed-dials his network of confidantes, GOP lawmakers and TV pundits.

The residence was where Trump made the infamous July 25 phone call to the Ukrainian president that’s now at the center of impeachment proceedings. It’s where Trump often meets his personal attorneys to plot legal strategy or campaign advisers to shape 2020 campaign moves. And last week it became the location for a Trump meeting that’s as official as any, hosting Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell — the target of countless Trump twitter attacks — along with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin for a Monday morning discussion of monetary policy.

Maintaining a sanctuary to work and think has taken on greater importance for the president as he increasingly feels under siege by the Democratic impeachment inquiry. Frustrated by the whistleblower complaint and a parade of administration officials testifying on Capitol Hill, Trump is as wary as ever of the staffers around him and distrustful of the traditional White House infrastructure. Working from his private quarters gives him space away from what he perceives as prying eyes and guards against his omnipresent fear of leaks to the media.

It also gives Trump a greater sense of control as he faces the dual challenges of impeachment and his reelection, according to interviews with a half dozen current and former senior administration officials…

The president sometimes prefers to interview candidates for high-profile positions from his private quarters, so staff and White House journalists cannot monitor comings and goings. Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney landed his current job during a late Friday afternoon meeting in the private space of the residence…

He also uses it during working hours as a place to watch TV freely, tweet and serve as own his one-man communications director and political strategist. The residence serves like a bunker for his impeachment response and his real-time reaction to testimony, witnesses and public hearings…

A third former senior administration official insisted Trump’s heavy use of the residence was “not an attempt on the president’s part to hide things. He is a workaholic, so he wakes up early and works out of the residence. It’s just the way his internal work clock has been for decades,” the official said…

Those halcyon early days when Trump was busy wasting his inheritance, bankrupting casinos, cheating everyone who worked with him, and first getting to know the Russian mob up close & personal. Well, *that’s* reassuring!

And at the end, Nixon walked thru White House halls talking to himself.

— Nancy Jackson (@catlover_nancy) November 24, 2019

Not to worry, though — Trump and his handlers have brought today’s GOP firmly to their knees his service:
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  1. 1.

    Ruckus

    November 25, 2019 at 4:42 am

    Poor little boy, scared to come out of his room.
    Has to curl up with his blankie and twitter and plan his escape.
    Such a nice concept as I grow older by the minute to see the country not run but ruined by an overgrown, dipshit, moron, racist, narcissistic, fake wealthy, asshole, who was known for all of that before he even ran.
    Life is stranger than fiction.

  2. 2.

    Amir Khalid

    November 25, 2019 at 4:44 am

    It’s become the place where Trump feels most productive

    Does not compute.

  3. 3.

    Ruckus

    November 25, 2019 at 4:46 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    No one said he was/is productive, he just feels like it.

    Which really is as close as he’s ever been to productive.

  4. 4.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 25, 2019 at 4:46 am

    He’s too lazy to walk to the oval office so he has his morning breakfast of cheeseburgers and pizza sent to his bed.

  5. 5.

    sukabi

    November 25, 2019 at 4:47 am

    Didn’t get through the entire politico piece because the pretence that drumpf is actually working as he’s hiding in the can is laughable. He’s twéeting and airing grievances and plotting how to smear his “enemies”, but he’s not working.

  6. 6.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 25, 2019 at 4:48 am

    because he distrusts the staff around him.

     

    Only the best people

  7. 7.

    sukabi

    November 25, 2019 at 4:52 am

    @David ??Booooooo?? Koch: someone needs to leave boxes of knives and guns laying around the WH. The paranoia will take care of the rest.

  8. 8.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 25, 2019 at 4:53 am

    Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell — the target of countless Trump twitter attacks — along with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin for a Monday morning discussion of monetary policy.

     

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

     

    What bullshit.  The chimp doesn’t know anything about economics, let alone monetary policy.

  9. 9.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 25, 2019 at 4:53 am

    The residence serves like a bunker

     

    Hmmm.  You know who else spent his final days in a bunker.

  10. 10.

    sukabi

    November 25, 2019 at 4:54 am

    • @David ??Booooooo?? Koch: the entire article was bullshit.
  11. 11.

    David ??Booooooo?? Koch

    November 25, 2019 at 4:59 am

    Anthony Hopkins has the distinction of portraying Hitler, Nixon and Hannibal Lechler.

     

    Gary Oldman has the distinction of portraying Count Dracula, Lee Harvey Oswald and Sid Vicious.

     

    Alec Baldwin has the distinction of portraying con-man Jimmy Swaggart, con-man John Delorean and con-man Donald Dump.

  12. 12.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 25, 2019 at 5:00 am

    @David ??Booooooo?? Koch: Perfectly normal.  It’s great having a paranoid, racist bully in the White House who is coached by White Supremacists like Stephen Miller.  Everything is just fine.

  13. 13.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    November 25, 2019 at 5:00 am

    The idea of Trump as a workaholic is hilarious. Being twitchy does not make you a workaholic. Not unless you count watching TV and ranting on the phone or twitter.

  14. 14.

    Ruckus

    November 25, 2019 at 5:06 am

    @sukabi:

    Naw, he’s too much of a chickenshit to do it himself and no one around him has the balls or is I think quite that stupid. Who wants to hang for this asshole?

    Also if he is starting/down the road into dementia, my experience with people in it is that their survival instinct doesn’t leave them. They hang on despite all the despair and pain, til the body shuts down.

  15. 15.

    sukabi

    November 25, 2019 at 5:06 am

    @David ??Booooooo?? Koch: well I think Danny Trejo should play drumpf in the made for tv movie Tweet Twit Twat

  16. 16.

    Anne Laurie

    November 25, 2019 at 5:08 am

    @Amir Khalid: “Productive” has many meanings.  To phrase this as politely as I can: Being in the Oval Office, surrounded by windows and ‘his enemies’, makes his sphincter snap shut.  But on his personal gilded throne, in a hard-tiled room with no windows…

  17. 17.

    Ruckus

    November 25, 2019 at 5:12 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    He may be awake and he may be doing what he’s been doing for decades, wasting the world’s time but the idea of working seems to me to require some useful output. So no, he’s not a workaholic, nor is he productive or useful other than as a sample for your kids on what not to do/be when you grow up. Or any time before that. Of course if they never want to grow up then a 73 yr old child is what you are going to get.

  18. 18.

    Nomad

    November 25, 2019 at 5:15 am

    @David ??Booooooo?? Koch: Came here to say that. As the walls closed around him, a certain Central European dictator isolated himself from everyone but a few trusted sycophants. Just as Trumpf is doing.

  19. 19.

    rikyrah

    November 25, 2019 at 5:15 am

    Good Morning, Everyone ? ??

  20. 20.

    JPL

    November 25, 2019 at 5:17 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: cruisemapper.com shows your ship and it appears that you are nearing South America.

  21. 21.

    Ruckus

    November 25, 2019 at 5:20 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning!

    Think that’s the first time I’ve ever been able to say that. And it means I should go to bed.

  22. 22.

    different-church-lady

    November 25, 2019 at 5:21 am

    Dollars to donuts he’s spending most of his “work” time in his bathrobe now.

  23. 23.

    rikyrah

    November 25, 2019 at 5:21 am

    About the Central Park Five:

    After they were cleared of all charges they sued the City of New York. The then Mayor fought to block any settlement & the case lingered in court until 2014.That Mayor has never apologized.That Mayor is now running for President of the United States.It was Michael Bloomberg https://t.co/jwgxB9IHST— I havn't ruled out running for President #2020 (@coryprovost) November 24, 2019

  24. 24.

    Baud

    November 25, 2019 at 5:23 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    November 25, 2019 at 5:24 am

    @JPL: Stalker.

  26. 26.

    rikyrah

    November 25, 2019 at 5:26 am

    Just in: Extraordinary statement from Bloomberg News Editor-In-Chief John Micklethwait about Bloomberg’s coverage plans of Mike Bloomberg’s candidacy: Bloomberg Editorial board suspended, no “investigation” of Mike, his family or foundation: pic.twitter.com/afjsHDQg0d— Paul Farhi (@farhip) November 24, 2019

  27. 27.

    Zinsky

    November 25, 2019 at 5:26 am

    I can’t believe anyone hasn’t stated the obvious yet – The reason Trump spends more time in the personal residence of the White House than in the Oval Office is so he can have FoxNews on 24/7/365!  Even a low class pervert like Trump recognizes that it would look bad to have FoxNews on all day in Oval Office.  This dumbass does little or nothing resembling “work”!

  28. 28.

    Chris T.

    November 25, 2019 at 5:27 am

    @Ruckus: Or, “productive” means like with a cough: horrible, icky stuff comes out of his orifices.

  29. 29.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 5:30 am

    @sukabi: Ugh.  What a pile of trash that production would be.

  30. 30.

    Ruckus

    November 25, 2019 at 5:30 am

    @Chris T.: 
    I was going to try to get some sleep.
    Thanks…….

  31. 31.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 5:30 am

    I have a friend who suffers severe,y from Seasonal Affective Disorder. He can go a whole week without ever getting out of his pajamas, and when he finally does it is only to take a bath. I can just see Mnuchin and Powell in the WH residence talking monetary policy while trump sits on the couch in his pajamas and robe, glued to the TV and tweeting every 5 mins. Every now and again one of them will throw trump a yes or no question framed so that trump will give the correct answer and then he is ignored again.

  32. 32.

    Baud

    November 25, 2019 at 5:30 am

    @rikyrah: 

    That tweet doesn’t quite match the content.

  33. 33.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 5:33 am

    @different-church-lady: Why?  Why must that even be suggested?  And at this hour – or any hour?

  34. 34.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 6:15 am

    just checking.

     

    ETA I guess everybody really did fall back asleep en masse.

  35. 35.

    WereBear

    November 25, 2019 at 6:17 am

    I’ll give Dump this: he’s so blatantly dysfunctional that even the lapdog press, with all their years of experience, are straining to gild this lily.

    May they all get strangulated hernias.

  36. 36.

    Kay

    November 25, 2019 at 6:21 am

    @rikyrah: 

    Remember this?

    LANSING, MI — Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is giving another assist to Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder, a Republican running for re-election against Democrat Mark Schauer.

    That was before the Flint water poisoning came out. The infants who the whistleblower pediatrician identified with spiked lead levels are in school now and they’re tracking them. They’re “impacted” by lead poisoning. It’s permanent.

  37. 37.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 6:27 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: nah, went to get moar coffee. Last night at 11:30, when I had been asleep one hour, a siren started going off very near my house. I thought an ambulance was coming for a neighbor. When I got downstairs, it was a car, empty but driver’s door open, 6 feet from my back door in the alley. I assumed a plainclothes cop was chasing someone but the cruisers arrived as I was looking out. It was a stolen car, evidently they had set off the lojack alarm and the thief had fled. It was towed away within the hour, but it took me much longer to fall back asleep. I’m going to need to mainline coffee today. And take a nap.

  38. 38.

    rikyrah

    November 25, 2019 at 6:31 am

    @Kay:

    Uh huh

    Thanks for the reminder

  39. 39.

    Raven

    November 25, 2019 at 6:31 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: we’re packed and heading out!

  40. 40.

    Betty Cracker

    November 25, 2019 at 6:31 am

    @Zinsky: Exactly right — Fox News is the only meaningful ego inflation mechanism at this point. If Bloomberg and Steyer were clear-eyed patriots rather than deluded egomaniacs, they’d buy that damned network and turn it into a 24/7 nature show about actual foxes. Trump would be wheeled out of the White House — locked in the fetal position — inside a month.

     

    BTW, did y’all hear Trump’s insane call-in rant to Fox and Friends last Friday (I think)? Even the Two Boobs and a Blonde on the sofa were shifting around uncomfortably as he babbled about the nonexistent server, etc.

     

    Trump is going to make every single elected Republican and media sycophant swallow that load of horseshit whole and on live TV before this is all over. Good.

  41. 41.

    rikyrah

    November 25, 2019 at 6:32 am

    @satby:

    satby,

     

    are you offering any Black Friday specials??

  42. 42.

    JPL

    November 25, 2019 at 6:33 am

    @Baud: lol   That site is interesting and you can see how many cruise in the Caribbean.

  43. 43.

    Kay

    November 25, 2019 at 6:33 am

    @rikyrah:

     

    Oh, I’m sure he’ll hear about it when he gets to Michigan:

    The number of special education students in Flint schools has substantially increased from just below 15% in the 2014-15 school year — as Flint’s water crisis began — to 24% currently, a figure provided by Lopez.

  44. 44.

    JPL

    November 25, 2019 at 6:39 am

    @Raven: Have fun.

  45. 45.

    Betty Cracker

    November 25, 2019 at 6:45 am

    Speaking of empty-headed scions talented only at shoveling bullshit and squandering other people’s money, former WeWork CEO Adam Neumann:

    In another meeting, Neumann said three people were going to save the world: bin Salman, Jared Kushner, and Neumann. Shortly after the news broke in October 2018 that Saudi agents tortured dissident and Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi and carved his body with a bone saw, likely on order from the crown prince himself, Neumann told George W. Bush’s former national security adviser Stephen Hadley that everything could be worked out if bin Salman had the right mentor. Confused, Hadley asked who that person might be, according to a source familiar with the meeting. Neumann paused for a moment and said: “Me.”

    Better elites, please. This current crop sucks.

  46. 46.

    Kay

    November 25, 2019 at 6:45 am

    I’m having a really small Thanksgiving- just our youngest, the middle son (no gf or her little boy- they’re broken up again), my youngest son’s gf and my husband.
    No one is a Trump supporter but my youngest and his gf are unbearably pure Lefties. He told me last night I’m not “ready for this conversation” – omfg. I might strangle him.

  47. 47.

    Baud

    November 25, 2019 at 6:49 am

    @Betty Cracker:

     

    Neumann

  48. 48.

    Baud

    November 25, 2019 at 6:53 am

    @Kay:

     

    unbearably pure Lefties

    Time to find some Buttigieg 2020 merchandise and strew it across the house.

  49. 49.

    Immanentize

    November 25, 2019 at 7:04 am

    @Kay: you should put all of BJ on speaker comment so we can weigh in during his “conversation.”

  50. 50.

    Kay

    November 25, 2019 at 7:05 am

    @Baud:

     

    He’s new at it so he has that “I learned something new” compulsion to tell people. She’s actually wonderful- his gf- she’s a vegetarian so I have to make sure she gets enough to eat.

     

    He says he won’t vote in the general if Sanders loses the primary but I think I can move him off that. It’s his first vote. I think he’ll relent.

  51. 51.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 7:05 am

    @satby:   Life in the big titty, never a dull moment.

    @Raven:   Tight lines!

  52. 52.

    trnc

    November 25, 2019 at 7:07 am

    This maaay sound familiar to those of us old enough to remember Nixon during the Watergate investigation.

    Has DT started to talking to the models in whatever low grade porn mags he looks at?

  53. 53.

    Kay

    November 25, 2019 at 7:07 am

    @Immanentize:

     

    Sometimes talking to him I can’t believe he’s a real person saying these things :)

     

    It’s like a caricature of an online Lefty. Well, you have one around this age. You know the drill – be PATIENT.

  54. 54.

    debbie

    November 25, 2019 at 7:07 am

    Bet Melania’s ticked off he’s home more.

  55. 55.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 7:08 am

    @Betty Cracker:   A taste for those who missed it:

    “I do want, always, corruption”

    “She wouldn’t hang my picture in the embassy … it took like a year & a half or 2 years for her to get the picture up … this was not an angel, ok?”

    “We have to stand with Hong King, but I’m also standing with President Xi. He’s a friend of mine, he’s an incredible guy. We have to stand … if it weren’t for me, thousands of people would have been killed in Hong Kong right now.”

    “I would have been in some trouble right now, because they were coming after me … turned out to be the best move I ever made — firing Comey. Because they were looking to take down the president.”

  56. 56.

    Betty Cracker

    November 25, 2019 at 7:09 am

    @Kay: I have online Bernie Bros to thank for pushing my daughter into Hillary’s arms prior to her first vote. She was Bernie-curious since she patiently listens to both parents’ political views and the mister voted for Sanders in the 2016 primary. But Sanders’ online supporters were so obnoxious that they turned her against him.

  57. 57.

    Baud

    November 25, 2019 at 7:10 am

    @Kay:

     

    He says he won’t vote in the general if Sanders loses the primary but I think I can move him off that. It’s his first vote. I think he’ll relent.

    Draw Hitler moustaches on his photos if he doesn’t relent.

  58. 58.

    debbie

    November 25, 2019 at 7:11 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

     

    Eww. What an image to start the day with!

  59. 59.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 7:11 am

    @Betty Cracker:  

    In another meeting, Neumann said three people were going to save the world: bin Salman, Jared Kushner, and Neumann.

    I’m a little surprised Beetlejuice didn’t make that list.

  60. 60.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 7:11 am

    @rikyrah: well, free shipping on purchases over $35, but it’s not just for Black Friday, it’s the entire holiday season.

    I may as well tell everyone, this is my last Christmas in business. I’m going to really retire next year. It’s been harder to keep up with the online store since most of my ready to sell stuff is stored at my market booth. I’m going to work through the summer and lease my booth out next year unless my current plans change. Everyone here has been so supportive and it’s bittersweet, but I think that the time is coming.

  61. 61.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 7:13 am

    @Kay:   Tell him if he doesn’t you will chop his head off and shit down the hole. While cleaning your shotgun.

  62. 62.

    debbie

    November 25, 2019 at 7:14 am

    NPR interviewed Neal Katyal, the author of Impeach, and mouthy Rachel did not interrupt him one single time. Considering she learned all she knows from Steve Inskeep, this was quite a surprise

  63. 63.

    Anne Laurie

    November 25, 2019 at 7:15 am

    @Betty Cracker: BTW, did y’all hear Trump’s insane call-in rant to Fox and Friends last Friday (I think)? Even the Two Boobs and a Blonde on the sofa were shifting around uncomfortably as he babbled about the nonexistent server, etc.

    See last post but one.

    (Probably should’ve saved it for this morning, except So! Much! News!)

  64. 64.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 7:18 am

    @debbie:   At least I left out the half eaten box of donuts with crumbs everywhere, the mostly empty 12 pack of diet coke, the urine filled cans so he didn’t have to go to the toilet, the…

  65. 65.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 7:19 am

    60 comments and not one mention of Howard Hughes yet?

    Out of left field first world question for the jackaltariat.

    Mom called and one of the things she mentioned was that her kitchen sink faucet is going to need replacing. The problem (such as it is): Her kitchen sink is red porcelain-clad and the current faucet is a matching red color. Both installed many moons ago by the previous owners. Her handyman (good guy, in his seventies, does excellent work) has said he can’t find anything even close to that color locally so she wants to know if I can find one. Initial quick whiparound online last night (including a check at some places which deal with RV or marine kitchen faucets) wasn’t much help as the only ones in red which I could initially find are (a) not solid red but a combo of red and stainless steel and (b) ridiculously pricey (as in well over $500). Delta makes a more moderately priced faucet which is roughly the same style she now has (also a Delta) but the only solid color other than metallics they seem to offer it in anymore is white.

    Anyone by any chance have suggestions of specialty plumbing places to look at? No fancy-schmancy touch-to-use or extendable sprayer heads necessary.

  66. 66.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 7:20 am

    @Kay: she’s a vegetarian so I have to make sure she gets enough to eat.

    Do a pasta side like ravioli or tortellini (cheese and spinach works) for her. That plus any other sides will make a fine meal, it’s what I and my friends do for our vegetarians. My one friend’s daughter is vegan though, so more challenging because no cream, eggs, cheese… She does tofu stuff for them.

  67. 67.

    low-tech cyclist

    November 25, 2019 at 7:21 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: And it wasn’t just the SAO describing Trump as a “workaholic.”  The Politico article itself describes Trump “working late into the night and very early in the morning.”

     

    I want a hit of whatever they’re smoking.

  68. 68.

    Baud

    November 25, 2019 at 7:23 am

    Most Americans now favor life in prison over the death penalty for convicted murderers

  69. 69.

    ThresherK

    November 25, 2019 at 7:25 am

    Nobody here has mentioned Howard Hughes?

     

    Trump may be weeks away from going there. Well, except Hughes, who wasn’t exactly a Boy Scout, did accomplish lots of things in his life.

  70. 70.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 7:26 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: closer to the truth. As dementia progresses, very often the person with it doesn’t want to leave familiar surroundings. Which probably works out well for his staff  handlers, because they need to try to keep the con going as long as possible. He’s getting too publicly erratic. And everyone surrounding him is a traitor.

  71. 71.

    Elizabelle

    November 25, 2019 at 7:27 am

    @satby:   Good to have made that decision. That’s going to make this Christmas special and memorable.

     

    And frees you up for a trip about this time next year to see Christmas in Mexico or elsewhere in the world.

  72. 72.

    Kay

    November 25, 2019 at 7:28 am

    @Betty Cracker:

     

    My daughter too! She voted for Sanders in the ’16 primary in PA (Clinton in the general) and now she has complete disdain for him and his enthusiasts. The truth is I’m cranky about the holiday. The Denmark son and wife aren’t coming and my daughter is very pregnant so is skipping the 8 hour car trip. I also have grown quite close to my middle son’s gf’s 4 year old but their relationship is a disaster and so I never know from one day to the next if I’ll ever see him again. They’re “off” right now. I texed her to say hi but she didn’t respond so I’ll leave her alone.

    I’ll buck up in time for the event. I like having parties.

  73. 73.

    debbie

    November 25, 2019 at 7:28 am

    Is it too much to hope Trump listens to NPR from his bunker? Jonah Goldberg just called Crowdstrike “bat guano crazy.” That ought to be good for a chest twinge or two!

  74. 74.

    ThresherK

    November 25, 2019 at 7:29 am

    @NotMax: I swear I was composing my post about Hughes before reading yours.

     

    This is a bit eerie!

     

    ETA: According to the wiki, Hughes was a scratch golfer. Trump can only dream of that, and a hundred other things Hughes did.

  75. 75.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 7:31 am

    I gotta brag on my daughter in law. On September 24 she gave birth to my grandbabygirl Addelyn Rose. Yesterday, 2 months to the day, she ran a 5K. She was gonna run/walk it but then her sister and a few friends said they’d run it with her. So she ran the whole thing, wasn’t gonna be the one to wuss out.

  76. 76.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 7:31 am

    @Elizabelle: I just know that my juggling skills aren’t as good as they used to be ?! I’m constantly missing something that’s in the other place.

    And that’s not fair to my customers.

  77. 77.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 7:33 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: wow, good for her!

  78. 78.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 7:34 am

    @NotMax:   Forget it. Any red you find will be off just enough to look like, “Well, they fucked that up.” Go with the white or something else, the contrast will at least appear to be by design.

  79. 79.

    Cheryl Rofer

    November 25, 2019 at 7:36 am

    @NotMax: From yesterday:

    Next step is the bottles of urine arranged in neat rows https://t.co/RGUGnCf2SD

    — Cheryl Rofer (@CherylRofer) November 24, 2019

  80. 80.

    Kay

    November 25, 2019 at 7:36 am

    @satby:

    She’s a good cook- her mother is a home ec teacher- so they’re going to make some vegetarian dishes day-of, which is nice because it gives them something to do. She made vegan cookies last Christmas that were really good.

  81. 81.

    Betty Cracker

    November 25, 2019 at 7:37 am

    @Anne Laurie: Good. It needed highlighting. It’s just impossible to keep up with the fire-hose-volume of insanity.

     

    @Kay: Sounds like you’re doing the only possible thing — keeping the door open but not pressing. :)

  82. 82.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 7:37 am

    @Kay:

    No one is a Trump supporter but my youngest and his gf are unbearably pure Lefties. He told me last night I’m not “ready for this conversation” – omfg. I might strangle him.

    Edit – you answered my question.  Best of luck convincing him this doesn’t just affect him.

  83. 83.

    WereBear

    November 25, 2019 at 7:37 am

    @satby: I always Twitter-promote your products once the holiday season commences because of the rescue angle.

     

    But if you CAN retire you SHOULD.

  84. 84.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 7:38 am

    @satby:   Went thru that with my father, the familiar is comforting and they begin to cling to one person for security. With my father it was my mother. Something tells me that with trump it won’t be Melania.

  85. 85.

    ThresherK

    November 25, 2019 at 7:39 am

    @Cheryl Rofer: Ooh, I missed that one.

  86. 86.

    WereBear

    November 25, 2019 at 7:39 am

    @satby: he’s headed straight for Big Macs in a blender.

  87. 87.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 7:40 am

    @ThresherK

    Who will be the new Melvin Dummar?

    This is a bit eerie!

    Could be worse. Could be Indiana.

    :)

    (Apologies to satby.)

  88. 88.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    November 25, 2019 at 7:41 am

    @JPL: Whoa. I didn’t know there was such a thing. Yes, we should be in Brazil tomorrow. There were birds circling the ship this morning, so we have to close to land somewhere.

     

    I just went to a talk on Shackleton’s trip to Antarctica with the Endeavor. That was a bad cruise!

  89. 89.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 7:42 am

    @Kay: nice! I honestly can’t imagine cookies made without real butter and eggs, though I’ve had them (and cake too) in India. But those were exotic, to me anyway. Vegan Toll-House cookies?!? I don’t know.

  90. 90.

    HinTN

    November 25, 2019 at 7:44 am

    @Baud: Sticks the landing! 9.5, 9.8, 9.5

  91. 91.

    Betty Cracker

    November 25, 2019 at 7:44 am

    Looks like we’ll have 14 for Thanksgiving, which we are hosting. I’ve farmed a lot of stuff out, but now I realize probably not enough! Is it too late to call people and add onto the side dish load?

    Also, our guest room is overbooked. Two weeks ago, I told my aunt and uncle they could have it Wednesday and Thursday night. Then a couple of days ago, my mother-in-law told my husband she might want to stay overnight after Thanksgiving.

    That means I might have to kick my aunt and uncle onto the sofa, which is fortunately very large and comfy. I suspect pretty much everyone will be sufficiently inebriated that it won’t be an issue, thanks to my world-famous white sangria. :-)

  92. 92.

    SFAW

    November 25, 2019 at 7:47 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    When he was still living in Queens, he used to go to his Flushing office.

  93. 93.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 7:47 am

    @WereBear: thanks! And

    @WereBear: ewww!

    @NotMax: never saw that show! I tell people I’m a Chicagoan in temporary exile. Even though it’s been 11 years. ?

  94. 94.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 7:48 am

    @low-tech cyclist:

    I want a hit of whatever they’re smoking.

    Sounds like they’re smoking coal ash cut with bleach and stupid.

  95. 95.

    Baud

    November 25, 2019 at 7:48 am

    @Betty Cracker:

     

    Holidays are when I’m most grateful for my sociopathy.

  96. 96.

    ThresherK

    November 25, 2019 at 7:49 am

    @NotMax: Could be Melvin and Howard(s).

  97. 97.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 7:50 am

    @Betty Cracker

    Turgatorken?

  98. 98.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 7:50 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:   And an amazing story. Not a single person died. Shackleton was a dude.

    If that was the shot, here’s a chaser: The Worst Journey in the World

    From the Wiki page:

    In 1910, Cherry-Garrard and his fellow explorers travelled by sailing vessel, the Terra Nova, from Cardiff to McMurdo Sound, Antarctica. “Cherry” was teased at first by some of the other members of this expedition because of his lack of Antarctic experience, his lack of specialised credentials for the position of assistant zoologist to which he had been named, and persistent suspicions among some of his comrades that he had in fact bought his way on board by contributing £1,000 to the expedition’s troubled funds.[1]

    Cherry-Garrard responded to these taunts with modesty, a self-sacrificial ability to work hard, and acute observational skills. He was also, according to novelist, biographer, and socialite Nancy Mitford, the only intellectual amongst the crew.[2] These traits were to serve him well when it came time for him to write down his memories of the expedition. They also caught the eye of the expedition’s second-in-command, Edward A. Wilson, who adopted Cherry-Garrard as a protégé.[3]

    Wilson’s personal goal in Antarctica was to recover eggs of the emperor penguin for scientific study.[4] It was thought at the time that the flightless penguin might shed light on an evolutionary link between reptiles and birds through its embryo.[5] As the bird nests during the Antarctic winter, it was necessary to mount a special expedition in July 1911, from the expedition’s base at Cape Evans, to the penguins’ rookery at Cape Crozier. Wilson chose Cherry-Garrard to accompany him and Henry R. Bowers across the Ross Ice Shelf under conditions of complete darkness and temperatures of −40 °C (−40 °F) and below. All three men, barely alive, returned from Cape Crozier with their egg specimens, which were stored.

    It was this winter journey, not the later expedition to the South Pole, that Cherry-Garrard described as the “worst journey in the world”.[6]

    Just reading it gave me frost bite.

  99. 99.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 7:50 am

    @Baud: I see.  And what’s the preferred punishment for Kremlin ass-suckers who are destroying our democratic government?

  100. 100.

    JPL

    November 25, 2019 at 7:50 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: That is something to brag about.

  101. 101.

    SFAW

    November 25, 2019 at 7:51 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Also, our guest room is overbooked. Two weeks ago, I told my aunt and uncle they could have it Wednesday and Thursday night. Then a couple of days ago, my mother-in-law told my husband she might want to stay overnight after Thanksgiving.

    Trigger warning:

    I see the potential for a rom-com film, with a side of partner-swapping. [I was going to write “wife-swapping,” but realized that’s sexist.] Their names wouldn’t happen to be Bob, Carol, Ted, or Alice?

  102. 102.

    HinTN

    November 25, 2019 at 7:51 am

     

    @OzarkHillbilly: I agree. My first thought was gold.

  103. 103.

    Shalimar

    November 25, 2019 at 7:52 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Watching TV and talking on the phone for input, tweeting and ranting to people on the phone for output.  This is pretty much the only work he has ever done in his life.  Phone conversations have mostly replaced in-person meetings and dinners, but otherwise everything is the same.  He has always had underlings to flesh out the details of his negotiations and do all the actual work.

  104. 104.

    Another Scott

    November 25, 2019 at 7:52 am

    @NotMax: I hate working on plumbing.  You have my sympathy.

     

    I assume you’ve checked eBay.  I just took a quick look at Etsy – sometimes they have off the wall stuff that you can’t find anywhere else.  But nothing immediately jumped out at me.

     

    Are you sure it needs to be replaced?  Often those faucets from the name brands have lifetime warranties or easily available parts.  Maybe you can just replace the guts and that will be good enough?

     

    Good luck!

     

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  105. 105.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 7:53 am

    @Betty Cracker:  

    Is it too late to call people and add onto the side dish load?

    Never.

  106. 106.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 7:59 am

    @Another Scott

    Being 6000 miles away, not in my bailiwick to do the work. Which I would, were I there and also had access to my tools.

  107. 107.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 8:00 am

    @HinTN:   That would work very well, better than the white I think. The only fly in the ointment might be if the sink had a stainless steel trim ring. But if that’s the case, SS is the obvious choice.

  108. 108.

    Betty Cracker

    November 25, 2019 at 8:00 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: The rotten truth is I’m a control freak when it comes to food that is being served in my house. My brother is nearly 40, and it’s possible he can be trusted with something other than ice and sodas, but I’ve never tested him!

  109. 109.

    Kay

    November 25, 2019 at 8:02 am

    @satby:

    These were kind of carroty and oaty, but I like that. You could eat them for breakfast.

    Like a cereal cookie :)

  110. 110.

    SFAW

    November 25, 2019 at 8:03 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    I just went to a talk on Shackleton’s trip to Antarctica with the Endeavor. That was a bad cruise!

    Somewhere on the Intertubez, there’s a video walk-through of the shelter he and the crew constructed, I assume it was from the wreckage of the Endeavour. My (very vague) memory was that it was not too shabby, everything considered.

  111. 111.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 8:04 am

    @Betty Cracker: I booked a room for my son and his gf. I have a reasonable expectation that I can get the public part of my house presentable for guests and dinner, but not the entire house.

     

    And a sweet side note: I have two young assistants on Saturday at the market, a brother aged 10 and his sister, 12. They’re the children of two former old order Mennonites who never went home after rumspringa, got married and are shunned by their families. I’m their “market grandma”. They’ve grown up very isolated but have really blossomed with the socialization they’ve had at the market and tomorrow the girl is having her first sleepover ever at my house. Officially it’s to help me clean up for Thanksgiving, but I’m plotting fun stuff to do too.

  112. 112.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 8:04 am

     

    @NotMax: Are we talking about a mutant turkey or mutant gator here, because that square peg, and that round hole…

  113. 113.

    Kay

    November 25, 2019 at 8:06 am

    I am glad I have a 3 day workweek. One of my colleagues who I like told me “we’re burned out”. I trust her observations on our mental state. I’m not that reflective.

    It doesn’t matter though- we can’t quit. Especially her- she’s much younger. It’s nice to have a name for general malaise though.

  114. 114.

    Another Scott

    November 25, 2019 at 8:06 am

    @NotMax: Ah, so she’ll be doing the work then.  Neato.  You could help her via FaceTime or something.  Save the video and post it here – it should be great fun!

     

    ;-)

     

    Seriously, if she has to hire a plumber to install a new faucet then the plumber should be able to fix it (if it’s leaking or something – if the finish is damaged or the housing has issues, that’s another story of course.).

     

    I’m sure you’ve gamed all this out (I remember trying to help my FIL fix issues with his Apple SE from 500 miles away…) – just trying to “help” a little.

     

    Good luck!

     

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  115. 115.

    SFAW

    November 25, 2019 at 8:07 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    The rotten truth is I’m a control freak when it comes to food that is being served in my house.

    Well, you gotta be, when you bring home a ‘gator to cook, and the grocery store doesn’t prep it first.

     

    But I can’t imagine how big a lobstah ‘gator pot you’d need.

  116. 116.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    November 25, 2019 at 8:07 am

    @debbie: The fact that Jonah Goldberg has a standing Monday morning segment on NPR infuriates me. Do they give a liberal pundit a standing segment every week? No, they do not.

     

    He’s supposedly a never Trumper but he not infrequently (grudgingly) says that he approves of things Trump is doing. Or, he says Trump is doing the wrong thing but also here’s why Democrats are equally or more wrong. Just like the rest of the conservative movement, he can never say that the Democrats are doing the right thing. They can’t find a single liberal pundit willing to come on every week to tell us how the Republicans are always wrong? If you ask them why, they’ll say they like to provide a “variety of perspectives”…but there seems to be one perspective they’re not, ever, willing to provide.

  117. 117.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 8:09 am

    @Betty Cracker:   Heh. Fortunately that was never a problem for me. When my wife and I got married we threw a potluck dinner out in the woods, everybody brought whatever they felt like. Messy, a number of duplicates, but it was still tasty. I did the meats, pulled chicken, pulled pork, brisket, and at the last minute I got paranoid about having enough for 150 people and did up a ham too. I was getting pretty frazzled trying to make sure all 4 were absolutely perfect! until a few of my friends kicked me out and took over the grilling/smoking.

  118. 118.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 8:12 am

    @OzarkHillbilly – @HinTN

    Her kitchen is all white and red. Picturing an installed white one in my mind’s eye, though, just looks … off. Did come across a reddish brass (not bronze) finish which might do but am unfamiliar with the brand. More research to undertake. May go looking at faucets for bar sinks next, although my gut is telling me marine fixture suppliers is the way to go.

  119. 119.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 8:12 am

    @satby:   Auntie Satby strikes again.

  120. 120.

    Baud

    November 25, 2019 at 8:12 am

    @satby:

     

    Jesus Christ.  How congeniel are you?

  121. 121.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 8:15 am

    @NotMax: Good luck.

  122. 122.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    November 25, 2019 at 8:15 am

    @Betty Cracker: Whether it’s too late to farm out more side dishes probably depends on a) are these people retired/stay at home or working full time? b) how far are they traveling (are we talking a couple hour drive or like 6 or more, or worse yet flying?) and c) when they’re travelling – is it Wednesday or today/tomorrow?

     

    If they’re working full time it would be kind of a dick move to ask them to do something more on a Monday, unless they’re taking the whole week off. If they’re not traveling too far AND they are not working this week AND they’re not leaving until later in the day tomorrow (see point a) or Wednesday, then I think asking today is fine.

  123. 123.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 8:19 am

    @mrmoshpotato

    Young gator. For tenderness. :)

    Watched an episode of a historical cooking program recently in which the chef prepped and cooked a 45 pound turkey in the method suggested by either Martha Washington or her contemporaries (I forget which). He commented that would have been a very commonly found size for turkey in the 18th century.

  124. 124.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 8:19 am

    @SFAW:

    when you bring home a ‘gator to cook, and the grocery store doesn’t prep kill it first. (but instead feeds it a bunch of speed.)

    Fixed. ?

  125. 125.

    Cheryl Rofer

    November 25, 2019 at 8:19 am

    Did My Husband Feed My Cats Or Are They Gaslighting Me, a memoir

    — Elizabeth May (@_ElizabethMay) November 24, 2019

  126. 126.

    Kay

    November 25, 2019 at 8:19 am

    @satby:

    got married and are shunned by their families

     

    Oh, that’s kind of you. I feel like people romanticize that fundie religion. It’s just as brutal as all the rest.

  127. 127.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 8:21 am

    @What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: NPR?  Liberal?  Does electric yellow have you by the brain banana? :)

  128. 128.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 8:27 am

    @What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?:  

    If they’re working full time it would be kind of a dick move to ask them to do something more on a Monday, unless they’re taking the whole week off.

    Which begs the question, is it a bigger dick move to just expect Betty to take it all on no matter the cost to her and her sanity? Not looking for a fight, just putting the shoe on the other foot.

  129. 129.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 8:27 am

    @mrmoshpotato

    E-lec-tric-al banana
    Is gonna be a sudden craze
    E-lec-tric-al banana
    Is bound to be the very next phase

      – Donovan

  130. 130.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 8:30 am

    @Baud: ?? I was a painfully shy kid myself.

    @OzarkHillbilly:  I like the parents, but the family lives out on a farm about an hour away from here, the kids are home schooled, and none are in sports so they were basically monosylabbic when they started at the market (their mom makes amazing pies). All but the oldest boy is much more social now. The youngest started helping me first, then his sister. I cheerfully just put an entirely different model of life out there for them: snarky humor, bad language, friendships with marginalized people and all. One of my friends here is an out and proud trans woman who stops by to juggle bath bombs and tell the kids punny jokes… And after she leaves we talk about why Megan uses female pronouns and why we respect that.

    What can I say, not just animals need rescue sometimes.

  131. 131.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 8:30 am

    @NotMax:

    Young gator. For tenderness. :)

    Haha

    the chef prepped and cooked a 45 pound turkey

    Oh my Jibbers!

  132. 132.

    Jeffro

    November 25, 2019 at 8:31 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: The mini-series from some years back with Kenneth Brannagh as Shackleton is outstanding.

     

    I’ve made my kids read various versions of his expedition’s story since they were six (yes, there are kid-lit editions =)

  133. 133.

    Elizabelle

    November 25, 2019 at 8:32 am

    We should have a Gaslighting and Trump Normalizing Hall of Shame.

    That Politico article is a contender.  Why let Mags Haberman have all the glory?

  134. 134.

    danielx

    November 25, 2019 at 8:34 am

    @Zinsky:

    not that I’m disagreeing, but that would be about the first time Trump ever worried about something looking bad.

  135. 135.

    Jeffro

    November 25, 2019 at 8:34 am

    I saw a clip this morning of Rick Perry relaying to a Fox “reporter” that he told trumpov, “mr. president*, you are the chosen one”

     

    For realz

     

    If he’s so innocent…if he’s the ‘chosen one’…why’s he holed up in the WH bathroom, tweeting and scarfing cheeseburgers?  Wouldn’t a truly innocent ‘chosen one’ be able to hold his head high (and publicly!) and do a news conference or three?  Testify before Congress, since he has nothing to hide?

     

    it’s weird…these are kind of low standards for a ‘chosen one’

  136. 136.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 8:38 am

    @Kay: Amish and Mennonite farms often are some of the worst puppy mill breeders. Rescue groups aren’t fond of them.

    Farmers market sellers are like travelling carnival workers. It’s a bit of a subculture, and is populated  by people who often wouldn’t be employable or only marginally employable. A lot of my market is ex-Amish and Mennonite, and they only have 8th grade educations. I’m hoping to help the kids  see more than their parents can, only because the parents have been crippled in the same way. I proposed a trip to Chicago for the kids to go to some museums, and mom and dad want to come too.

  137. 137.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 8:39 am

    @NotMax:

    He commented that would have been a very commonly found size for turkey in the 18th century.

    I gotta call bullshit on that one. The avg wild turkey (male) weighs 11-24 lbs. All turkeys are descended from them. The turkeys Martha Washington worked with would have probably been very close to a Narraganset which go 22-28 lbs. The Broad Breasted White turkey, which is no doubt what he was using avg 40 lbs, but they are a recent breed and can’t even breed without human assistance.

     

    ETA: I should say BBWT’s can get to an avg 40#s. Slaughter weight is obviously  much less

  138. 138.

    Racer X

    November 25, 2019 at 8:43 am

    Doesn’t know who to trust?

    How about trying this?

    Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time!

  139. 139.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    November 25, 2019 at 8:43 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    That sounds awful.

    Shackleton’s expedition ate penguins.

    Judging by other posts here, Thanksgiving must be this week. I’ve lost track.

  140. 140.

    khead

    November 25, 2019 at 8:45 am

    JFC.  The GOP is a cult now.

  141. 141.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    November 25, 2019 at 8:46 am

    @SFAW:

    They constructed shelters in several places as they tried to get themselves back to safety. There was a photographer on board and among the things they salvaged were his pictures. Apparently they believed (rightly as it turned out) that they could sell artifacts and pictures from the trip.

  142. 142.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 8:46 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: it is, this Thursday. In a way isn’t it nice to be not under pressure for any of it?

  143. 143.

    Josie

    November 25, 2019 at 8:46 am

    @Jeffro:

    I saw that clip and couldn’t believe even Rick Perry would say something so idiotic.  Maybe he is getting ready to plead temporary insanity when they come to arrest him.

  144. 144.

    SFAW

    November 25, 2019 at 8:46 am

    @Jeffro:

    he told trumpov, “mr. president*, you are the chosen one”

    Where’s Obi-Wan when we need him?

  145. 145.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 8:46 am

    @OzarkHilbilly

    Suppose it’s possible he said 25 pounds (he speaks with a thickish accent) and the closed caption AI was funnin’ with me again, displaying 45 pounds.

    Visually, it looked as if a hobbit could fit inside the turkey shown. ;)

  146. 146.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 8:47 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:  It’s a great book, in a horrific way.

    Thanksgiving must be this week.

    Well, that’s what my wife tells me, and she wouldn’t lie, would she?

  147. 147.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    November 25, 2019 at 8:47 am

    @satby:

    That’s a sweet thing to do.

  148. 148.

    Elizabelle

    November 25, 2019 at 8:50 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:   Excited for you being on your trip.  Do you spend much time in Brazil and South America?

    Cruise on.

  149. 149.

    Just One More Canuck

    November 25, 2019 at 8:51 am

    @NotMax:

    would matte black be an option – Moen has one (we are thinking about a kitchen re-do)

  150. 150.

    Mo' Salad

    November 25, 2019 at 8:51 am

    Disqus test.

  151. 151.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    November 25, 2019 at 8:52 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I was thinking “So watching TV all day and ranting about it is work now”

  152. 152.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 8:52 am

    @NotMax:   I looked into raising heritage breeds on our place for friends and family. Did a fair amount of research before deciding it was wholly impractical on the available acreage. That was why my BS detector went off. Hopefully he knows better.

  153. 153.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 8:54 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor

    One thing have always wondered about is exactly what the ship’s carpenter – whose skills were so crucial to aiding in their eventual survival – did to piss off Shackleton so much that he insisted the carpenter be denied receiving the medals presented at the big ceremony celebrating their return to England.

  154. 154.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 8:55 am

    @Racer X:

    Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time!

    Silly rabbit Racer X, not criming is for people who haven’t been mobster trash their entire adult lives.

  155. 155.

    mardam422

    November 25, 2019 at 8:55 am

    “He is a workaholic,”… who has the time to waste an hour ranting on Fox and Friends.

    Honest to Dog. How much of a sycophant do you have to be to tell someone Trump is a workaholic?

  156. 156.

    Just One More Canuck

    November 25, 2019 at 8:56 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    if you want frostbite just from reading, try “Erebus” by Michael Palin (yes, that Michael Palin)

  157. 157.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    November 25, 2019 at 8:56 am

    @Elizabelle: We’re going to kind of skip down the coast stopping in Recife, Rio, Montivedeo, and Buenos Aires, with sea days in between. I fly home on Dec 5, so that’s how long it takes to do it.

    We don’t stop long in each place though, so it’s just a tiny taste.

  158. 158.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 8:57 am

    @NotMax: Mmmmm…..Turkeyzilla.

  159. 159.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 25, 2019 at 8:57 am

    @NotMax: No idea if it still exists, but back in the day there was a place on Webster Avenue in the Bronx that was the go-to for antediluvian plumbing supplies.

  160. 160.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    November 25, 2019 at 8:58 am

    @NotMax:

    I thought that was unfair and sad. He was vital to their survival.

    There was a stowaway on board the Endeavor too. He went on the whole trip with them after they found him.

  161. 161.

    Elizabelle

    November 25, 2019 at 9:00 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: “So watching TV all day and ranting about it is work now”

     

    It’s the Donald Trump Full Employment Act.

     

    You’re employed, and you’re employed, and you’re employed, and …

    Best president for Jobs, Jobs, Jobs.  Ever.

     

    ETA:  You forgot the “conspiring.”  That’s moar hard work.

  162. 162.

    ThresherK

    November 25, 2019 at 9:01 am

    @Just One More Canuck: Frostbite? It’s been too cold for several weeks for me to read Iceblink, Scott Cookman’s book about the lost Franklin expedition.

  163. 163.

    Elizabelle

    November 25, 2019 at 9:02 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:   Sounds heavenly.

     

    Just looked up your ship.  The Jupiter.  Brand new.  Wow.

  164. 164.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 9:12 am

    @Just One More Canuck

    Always a possibility to consider. Thanks.

    This is the brass one I mentioned (guessing it’s a brass-like finish over fiberglass). Always difficult to judge colors from online pix, however. She’d have to forego the built-in soap dispenser on her current unit, but I suppose the existing deck plate could be reused in place of the one that comes with the new unit.

  165. 165.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 9:13 am

    @NotMax:   The same thing carpenters always do to piss of their customers, he said “I can’t build that with this.”

  166. 166.

    Jeffro

    November 25, 2019 at 9:13 am

    @Josie:  not to be outdone, Sarah “DON’T CALL ME A LIAR” Sanders said that trumpov “reads more than anyone I know”

     

    Twitter is having a field day pointing out that is essentially a confession that she knows not a single person on this planet.

  167. 167.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 9:15 am

    @Jeffro: Sir, that’s a maze on a Denny’s placemat for children.

  168. 168.

    Chief Oshkosh

    November 25, 2019 at 9:16 am

    As this is an open thread…

     

    Navy Secretary Spencer resigned after Defense Secretary Esper demanded his resignation. What if Spencer had said “No. I refuse to obey an unlawful order, so I’m proceeding with the SEAL review. If you don’t like it, fire me.”?

     

    I ask  because I don’t know that Trump and his minions have the guts to actually fire someone, but I also don’t know if someone in Spencer’s position can tell the CiC to fuck off, fire me if you don’t like my performance.

  169. 169.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 9:16 am

    @Just One More Canuck:   I know the story of course, I’ll have to put the book on my list. Palin is a man of many talents.

  170. 170.

    Mo' Salad

    November 25, 2019 at 9:18 am

    https://youtu.be/plMzj2t7DGM

  171. 171.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 25, 2019 at 9:18 am

    Oh, they didn’t stay at the Trump Hotel? Yeah…they’re not getting pardoned. ? https://t.co/7e6rJRBduD— Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) November 25, 2019

    Who wants to bet Dump tries to blame all of his criming on these two?

  172. 172.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 9:22 am

    @NotMax:   It’s from the Empire Brass Company, hopefully they take their name seriously and it is all brass construction. Anything less is… Less.

  173. 173.

    rikyrah

    November 25, 2019 at 9:22 am

    @Kay:

     

    He says he won’t vote in the general if Sanders loses the primary but I think I can move him off that. It’s his first vote. I think he’ll relent.

     

    The courts. The children in cages.

  174. 174.

    rikyrah

    November 25, 2019 at 9:23 am

    @Kay:

     

    This person has a Twitter thread responding to those who said that kind of shyt in 2016.

     

    https://twitter.com/Kennymack1971/status/1198631464008667137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  175. 175.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 9:29 am

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Weight is listed at 3½ pounds, so maybe not entirely plastic-y?

  176. 176.

    rikyrah

    November 25, 2019 at 9:29 am

    @satby:

     

    Thanks for the notice. So sad about you retiring,but, if it’s positive for you, then, I’m happy for you.

     

    I have to tell you that the Rose scent for the creme (which is divine) is overwhelming for my senses. I had to wind up giving it to Peanut, who has no problems with it, and likes the way it moisturizes her skin. I think I’m going to try lavender this year.

  177. 177.

    rikyrah

    November 25, 2019 at 9:31 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

     

    Just wow!

  178. 178.

    Aleta

    November 25, 2019 at 9:31 am

    National Day Of Mourning

    This year’s NDOM is dedicated to Missing & Murdered Indigenous Women, Girls & Two Spirits, and to our thousands of relatives who are migrants and are being abused by ICE and other government agencies, including having their children stolen from them. We didn’t cross the border – The border crossed us! #NoJusticeOnStolenLand

    http://www.uaine.org

  179. 179.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    November 25, 2019 at 9:31 am

    I am starting to see the Impeachment really about tearing down Trump’s support structure like they do with a Mafia boss and I see our Media Betters are working themselves up to declaring Trump innocent because of White, Male, Born before 1963,

  180. 180.

    Elizabelle

    November 25, 2019 at 9:32 am

    @rikyrah:  I like his style.  That’s exactly how I feel.

     

    I ain’t trying to hear your “what is we gon do about the courts” take especially if you spent 2016 nitpicking Hillary, kneecapping Democrats and whining about rigged primaries. Fuck you.

  181. 181.

    Jeffro

    November 25, 2019 at 9:40 am

    Aren’t we overdue for a big multi-million person Impeach the MF rally on the Mall?  Or are we doing that while the trial’s going on?

     

    Yes, yes, I know there will be a counter-protest.  We’ll try to get all eight of those folks into the same half of a Metro car for their own sake.

  182. 182.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 25, 2019 at 9:40 am

    @NotMax:   Hmmm… I just googled them and went to their home page. Not promising.

    They specialize in RV and mobile home plumbing. Maybe you can find the specific item and it will tell you more.

  183. 183.

    Chief Oshkosh

    November 25, 2019 at 9:43 am

    @Chief Oshkosh: Nevermind. I see that the so-called letter of resignation is actually an acknowledgment of being terminated:

     

    “I hereby acknowledge my termination”

  184. 184.

    PPCLI

    November 25, 2019 at 9:44 am

    @Chief Oshkosh: Spencer’s letter sure seems to indicate he was fired, whatever the ass-covering story the administration is spreading.

  185. 185.

    Just One More Canuck

    November 25, 2019 at 9:49 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Highly recommended – what they accomplished on their first voyage under sail only was amazing, but to meet the end that they did….- the ultimate blech. Palin tells it very well.

     

    Mordecai Richler used the story of the Franklin Expedition to get one of the protagonists from England to Canada (Solomon Gursky Was Here) – pretty entertaining book – classic CanLit

  186. 186.

    Brooklyn Dodger

    November 25, 2019 at 9:51 am

    @satby: Oh, sorry to hear you’re hanging up the scrub biz. My family are big fans of your lovely creations! BUT good for you to set an end date for work. Mine is also the end of the year after putting it off for a whole year (and looking forward to it for 10).

  187. 187.

    rikyrah

    November 25, 2019 at 9:54 am

    Mayhew,

    Did you see this?

     

    University to Students on Medicaid: Buy Private Coverage, or Drop Out

     

    Emily and Kullen Langston were enrolling in classes for the winter semester at Brigham Young University-Idaho when they hit an unexpected roadblock.

    The school, like many others, requires all students to have health coverage. But this month, the university made an unusual announcement: It would no longer accept Medicaid.

     

    Ms. Langston, 20, enrolled in the free government insurance program last year after becoming pregnant with the couple’s daughter, who is now 4 months old. Mr. Langston, 22, was planning to sign up for Medicaid in January, when it is set to expand in the state.

    To remain in school, they would have to buy private coverage. The cheapest option available is the university’s student health plan, which does not comply with the Affordable Care Act’s consumer protections and would require the Langstons to pay a $3,125 annual premium.

     
    Ms. Langston said her family, which relies on the income her husband earns as a call-center operator, cannot afford that. She had hoped to become a teacher, but now intends to drop out of school, and her husband is unsure whether he will attend.
    “I’m disappointed that they’re showing prejudice against those of us who are poor right now,” Ms. Langston said. “I’m disappointed that I’m not going to be able to finish school.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/24/us/medicaid-students-brigham-young.html

  188. 188.

    waysel

    November 25, 2019 at 9:56 am

    @NotMax: I’ll bet her faucet is a high quality name brand unit that has a replaceable ‘cartridge’ I believe they call it- the part inside that does all the work and has seals that fail over time. Custom color porcelain ain’t cheap and companies like Kohler would create color matched faucet / sink combos. I would try to find out the brand and model. Replacing the cartridge is usually a pretty simple procedure.

  189. 189.

    PPCLI

    November 25, 2019 at 10:01 am

    Trump has a bizarre Saturday night visit to the hospital. Nobody sees him for a couple of days. The first recorded sighting is then a meeting with his Treasury secretary and the Fed. chair in his residence. Then suddenly there is this butt-kissing article in the site that publishes John Solomon, about how Trump has preferred the residence for some time, because it makes it easier to be his “workaholic” self (Jesus, they can’t even make the lies the least bit plausible). He likes being able to do things unnoticed, don’t you know. And look, all these other high-profile things took place in the residence, it’s been a tendency for some time  ….

     

    Maybe. Or maybe that health event was more serious than they want to let on and they need to retrofit a cover story for why Trump will be meeting in the residence a lot for awhile.

  190. 190.

    rp

    November 25, 2019 at 10:10 am

    @PPCLI:  They’re having a harder and harder time hiding his cognitive and physical decline, and they want to minimize his interactions with the WH staff. He’s going to fall or have some sort of severe episode in public in the next few weeks.

  191. 191.

    Brachiator

    November 25, 2019 at 10:13 am

    @satby:

     

    Best wishes for a pleasant retirement.

  192. 192.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    November 25, 2019 at 10:34 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Well, she agreed to host. That comes with certain responsibilities IMO. One exception to the above rules is if the plan is for them to cook the sides the day of, and she can provide the ingredients, it would still be OK for her to pile on tasks on Turkey Day itself, even for those holding down full time jobs.

     

    If they have to make something new in advance, that means another trip to the grocery store and then prep and cooking time…could be tough to someone working full time to fit in at this late date.

  193. 193.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    November 25, 2019 at 10:36 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Also, another exception is if they don’t have to do any cooking – i.e. if you task someone with getting something from the ready made section of the grocery store, or something that requires virtually no prep (cheeses for a cheese plate) still OK to ask.

  194. 194.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 10:38 am

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Yeah, the more I checked the more skeptical I’ve become. Gonna scratch it off the list.

    Been doing some more poking around – fell in love with this one from Costco. Not red, but a beauty that would fit in without being in-your-face design-wise, IMHO. And real brass innards.

  195. 195.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 10:42 am

    @rikyrah: I’m so sorry, I can do barely scented and unscented too. I do medium strength if very light isn’t specified. I have to do it by calculations, because I get habituated and lose my sense of smell in the middle of making products, so I can’t go just on my own judgement of strength.

    @Brooklyn Dodger: Thanks! And I admit, I’m looking forward to dialing back a lot. It’s an all or nothing kind of biz.

  196. 196.

    satby

    November 25, 2019 at 10:48 am

    @rikyrah: that’s just disgusting. Those poor kids.

    @Brachiator: not until the end of next summer, but thanks!

  197. 197.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 10:48 am

    @waysel

    It’s a Delta (don’t know the model number). Probably 20 – 30 years old. She did say her handyman told her that cartridge is no longer available, which could be the case.

    I’ve met and interacted with the guy. He’s a meticulous pro of the old school but also struck me as more a replace than repair kind of guy. Mom got him the gig of being the on-call maintenance person for her three story, 12 unit building for stuff the super can’t or won’t handle, so don’t believe he would deliberately try to snow her.

  198. 198.

    Villago Delenda Est

    November 25, 2019 at 10:50 am

    So, tweeting out his deranged stream of consciousness crap is “work” now for Donald.

     

    He’s a walking (barely) obscenity.  Impeach, convict, remove, indict, try, convict, imprison.

  199. 199.

    ellenr

    November 25, 2019 at 10:53 am

    @satby: Make vegetarian stuffing.  Use Penzey’s veggie base for the liquid, regular Thanksgiving spices (poultry seasoning does fine), and add walnuts or other kinds of nuts.  If they’re not vegan, add eggs.  Bake about 30 – 45 min.

  200. 200.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 25, 2019 at 10:53 am

    @NotMax: I thought the place I recalled was so old-school that they wouldn’t be on the interwebs, but I was wrong: https://www.websterplumbingsupply.com/

     

    Might be worth a phone call.

  201. 201.

    NotMax

    November 25, 2019 at 10:56 am

    @Gin & Tonic

    Coolness. On the list to check out. Thanks.

  202. 202.

    waysel

    November 25, 2019 at 11:05 am

    @NotMax: Delta may no longer make and stock the part, but many on-line supply places have back inventory. It can take some rooting around to find the right part. I just wanted to be sure the guy was aware of the possibility, and hopefully did some thorough research.

  203. 203.

    Barbara

    November 25, 2019 at 11:05 am

    @satby: My whole role at Thanksgiving is to make sure my vegan daughter has something to eat.  This year I will be making a pumpkin crostada, based on a recipe at the Washington Post.  I am changing it somewhat.  I will also make roasted Brussels sprouts with hazelnuts, and a vegan dessert that I know she likes.

     

    @ellenr: This is a great idea, and you can use mushroom broth for a deeper flavor, although vegetable broth is nice as well.

  204. 204.

    Miss Bianca

    November 25, 2019 at 11:06 am

    @Betty Cracker: ooh, white sangria? Do tell!

  205. 205.

    Barbara

    November 25, 2019 at 11:10 am

    @waysel: It’s true, there seems to be an online business model that is geared to supplying parts for just about anything.  We have found parts for our 1991 Volvo, a Swedish camping stove, and a host of other things that we could never get through the manufacturer.  Definitely worth a shot.

  206. 206.

    Miss Bianca

    November 25, 2019 at 11:10 am

    @NotMax: My friend who raised some turkeys for meat has some 45-50 pounders still available. I’m not sure the bird would even fit in my chest freezer!

  207. 207.

    Miss Bianca

    November 25, 2019 at 11:12 am

    @satby:

    What can I say, not just animals need rescue sometimes.

    Satby, you is good people.

  208. 208.

    SFAW

    November 25, 2019 at 11:48 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Impeach, convict, remove, indict, try, convict, imprison.

    ICRITCI NOW!

  209. 209.

    Steeplejack

    November 25, 2019 at 12:00 pm

    @NotMax:

    I pretty much agree with OzarkHillbilly. You never realize how many shades of one color there are until you try to match the one you’ve got. I think your only chance would be if you could discover the manufacturer of the current faucet and go from there. Probably doubtful since you’re not on site and your mother probably can’t investigate the innards of the faucet.

  210. 210.

    Captain C

    November 25, 2019 at 12:04 pm

    because he distrusts the staff around him.

     

    The staff that he hired.

  211. 211.

    NotoriousJRT

    November 25, 2019 at 12:27 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: When Trump made his comment about standing with Hong Kong AND his friend, good man Xi,  I thought I saw contempt flicker in Brian Kilmeade’s eyes.  May these marathon rambles through the disordered mind of Trump on F&F torture those toady hosts.

  212. 212.

    Chris Johnson

    November 25, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    @Captain C: The staff that he hired.

    Assumes facts not in evidence.

    Putin’s people run Trump’s whole show. There is no reason to assume Trump is the boss of Putin.

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