The way we live now…
Woman stood up in Creston & said it “really upsets me” that Bloomberg skipping Iowa. “It makes us Iowans look like nobodies." South Bend mayor response: "There are only so many tickets out of Iowa…not my place to tel any other campaign what to do." (transcript h/t @PriscillaWT) pic.twitter.com/uoSEQcnYyK
— Vaughn Hillyard (@VaughnHillyard) November 25, 2019
In response to @DJJudd about the predominately white pops of Iowa & NH compared to NV & SC, Buttigieg says “certainly each early state has a unique role” & notes that a “strong candidate will be competitive with every different kind of state.” https://t.co/3fbGRrnjBn pic.twitter.com/tdh4fiW7K5
— Vaughn Hillyard (@VaughnHillyard) November 25, 2019
They’re not racist-racist! It’s just that things have always been a certain way: Iowa was quadrenially important, and presidents were white. We tried experimenting with that last factor, and things went all to hell! Maybe America (not *them*, of course, but all those other voters) just isn’t ready for a(nother) President who isn’t white, and male!
Such a nice young man, that Mayor Pete…
"Among voters over 65 years of age, Biden dropped from 28 percent in August to 12 percent today, while Buttigieg has vaulted from 2 percent to 17 percent and now leads the field among seniors."https://t.co/9vokhnY7cq
— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) November 26, 2019
Other candidates are gonna be less oblique, of course, because they’ve got their base locked down already:
In Salem NH, Bernie Sanders says “we need to accept” that a faction of Trump supporters are ‘racist and sexist’ and won’t be won over. But, he adds, “The majority of his supporters are probably people who are angry and disgusted at a system that has left them behind.”
— Sabrina Siddiqui (@SabrinaSiddiqui) November 25, 2019
The is about the same thing Clinton said in her "basket of deplorables" comment, which melted the Earth at the time https://t.co/RkS4K1U9n6 pic.twitter.com/GRihfpclXo
— Steadman™ (@AsteadWesley) November 25, 2019
Hillary won every demographic besides white people making over 50k/yr. If anyone's been left behind by the system, it's her supporters. Trump's supporters are mostly white evangelicals. "The system that left them behind" is democracy.
— Ed Overbeek (@EdOverbeek) November 25, 2019
Of course the NYTimes wants to Heighten the Contradictions in aid of their preferred GOP ‘normal’, but Astead Wesley isn’t wrong:
U need all sides of black voters to recreate Obama playbook, older/younger, college/non-college. Biden has blocked black candidates among biggest voting groups (older), but Sanders and Warren's inroads among black left — and esp young ppl — has hurt alsohttps://t.co/1GSyNMvQUH
— Steadman™ (@AsteadWesley) November 25, 2019
This is why some describe most black voters as pragmatic progressives rather than "moderates." When you talk to them, a vote for Biden is sometimes not ideological but a harm reduction electoral strategy based off electability notions. Who is allowed, you can ask, to dream big? https://t.co/62M7OJ7PAF
— Steadman™ (@AsteadWesley) November 25, 2019
Yes. And why the goodwill that Harris/Booker/Sanders/Warren are trying to build in sectors of the black electorate, even if it hasn't translated to a polling bump at the moment– could matter still https://t.co/Xig90DtJc0
— Steadman™ (@AsteadWesley) November 25, 2019
John Revolta
Frist!
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
In other words, black voters are individuals, who have their own ideas and ideals, make their own individual assessments of risk, benefit, and worst-case scenarios, act for reasons of reason or unreason or calculation, in solidarity or selfishness, never outside the context of their own life experiences and unique vulnerabilities – in other words, people. Who would have guessed?
Aleta
At Black Girl in Maine, post by Samuel James about Pete B at the debate:
Pete Buttigieg’s appeal is very much tied to race
At the Guardian, Pete Buttigieg has a race problem. So does the Democratic party
“Circumstance has forced the Buttigieg campaign to confront its problem appealing to black voters. “
Aleta
@Aleta: The Guardian article is by Malaika Jabali
Jay
Jay
Jay
lamh36
Well damn!!! Say it with yo chest Micaheal Harriott!!!
The headline may be eye catching…but the underlying article is actually VERY good! Do yourselves a favor and PLEASE read past the headline!
BTW, you’ll DEF be able to tell who actually read the article and digested it…rather than just skimmed it or just read the title!
As I said to someone else, it’s what a lot of folks I know have been saying and hearing from other folks and not just on twitter or social media. On urban radio as well, when it comes to the way some pols talk about and treat Black voters.
lamh36
Oh and ICYMI: Kamala Harris and a Mindy Kaling
Villago Delenda Est
Jeebus H. Christ, Wilmer is a total fuckhead.
MaryLou
Hmmmm… not sure it’s really smart to play the race card with your OWN voters. At the end of the day, we still need a candidate who can win the general election, and to do that, you need an enthusiastic coalition, not a bunch of groups who can barely stand each other.
Jay
wow, thanks, all of the anger and history rolled into a short hard story,
World-renowned wypipologist. Getter and doer of “it.” Never reneged, never will. Last real negus alive.
Jay
Cacti
Bull fucking shit.
There’s no fig leaf left to hide behind. There is no door number 2. If you still support Trump in 2019, in spite of everything he’s done, it’s because you’re racist, sexist, bigoted motherfucker.
Jay
Kent
@lamh36:
Thanks for the link. Excellent article. I’m not black but I spent a decade of my life teaching in a large diverse public school in a highly-segregated city in the south. What he writes is absolutely true. We, as a society, have largely abandoned large swaths of this country, mostly areas of color. The schools are just a small part of it. The stores and retail, the jobs, the parks, health care, pretty much every aspect of life white Americans take for granted in the suburbs is being sucked out of neighborhoods of color. Through thousands of individual decisions by corporations and government that all together simply add up to a brutal racist reality.
Martin
I’ve decided that my new purity test for the Democratic nominee is the individual who will by executive action replace the national anthem with Woodie Guthries “Trump Made a Tramp Out Of Me”.
That’s it. Let’s own this shitshow.
patroclus
If the point of this post is to say that Iowa voters are racist and sexist, well, they did vote for Obama in 2008 and 2012 and Clinton in 2016. And if the point of this post is to suggest that Buttigieg’s supporters are racist or sexist, well, I’m going to have to see more evidence of that.
I’m not all that enthused about Mayor Pete because his entire electoral experience is as the mayor of a small town. I’m leaning towards Klobuchar or Harris or (cough cough) Biden instead. Maybe Booker – I took the Washington Post quiz and according to that, Booker is my guy because he agrees with me the most. But if even if it’s Warren (who doesn’t agree with me) or (bleah) Wilmer, I’ll still be voting for whoever gets the nomination. Obama told us to chill and get some perspective and I’m trying to do just that. Beating Trump is the key.
lamh36
@lamh36:
Jay
smike
@lamh36:
Not a bad read, that one. And I can see why he feels that way about Buttigieg. For all of his smarts, Buttigieg doesn’t seem to know what he doesn’t know – a sight empathy problem. I’d vote for him, but I don’t see him being the candidate. He’ll be great in the next administration at some level.
Jay
@lamh36:
you shouldn’t have had to repeat it, but of course you did.
Jay
Jay
Not even the Russians this time,……
SectionH
@Martin: point taken, but I’ll settle for Waist Deep in the Big Muddy For the country right now.
Jay
Anne Laurie
@patroclus:
They’re not deliberately racist (or sexist), it’s just that they (like most of us!) have an unconscious ‘perception’ that sheep are white, and so are American presidents. The President who wasn’t white stood out, because of that. And the general disruption of social norms since the eight-year President Obama ‘experiment’, in combination with the natural bias to assume that things should basically be like they’ve always been, makes at least some primary voters — perhaps, especially, those in very white states with a ‘gatekeeping’ history — nervous about repeating the not-a-white-man experiment and having the next four years deteriorate even further.
Candidates of color, and female candidates, and female candidates of color, are carrying an extra ‘burden of proof’ to demonstrate that they can become the Democratic nominee without the sitting Oval Office Occupant actually releasing mobs of gunned-up white supremacists at the polling places. It’s not fair, it’s not right, but it’s as immutable a handicap as the fact that the electoral college allows small-population (mostly white!) states an outsized importance in the final decision.
Miss Bianca
@lamh36:
Pete Buttigieg doesn’t want to change anything. He just wants to be something.
Oof!
Man doesn’t mince his words.
JCJ
@lamh36:
Thanks for posting this! My wife and I just watched it. Listening to Senator Harris talk about visiting her grandparents in India makes me think of taking my daughter to see her grandparents in Thailand. We really laughed when Senator Harris said ., “Just don’t call me Auntie!”
Rusty
@lamh36: Kids don’t go to school because of poverty. Unstable housing, so miss school because moving around. Don’t go to school because need to watch younger kids while a parent goes to work. Whirlpool has a program that gives a few schools free washers and dryers every year. Why? Because a principal talked to kids with high truancy rates about why they didn’t come to school. A reason was their clothes smelled and it was embarrassing. They couldn’t afford to take them to the laundromat. So the principal asked for donations of machines, and truancy dropped because the kids could wash their clothes (the number of schools applying far out strips the number of machines offered). Kids don’t go to school because of poverty.
Jay
Jay
@Rusty:
helps to read what the guy wrote. It wasn’t his poverty that made going to school, going on from school, doing “well” in life that is the problem in his community, it’s the poverty of systemic racism and institutionalized white supremacy.
As we have seen recently, in study after study, institutionalized white supremacy in the US starts before pregnancy and only ends at death, if one is lucky. That’s not a problem owned by the POC communities, it’s owned by everybody else.
Kent
What’s the actual policy proposal? I couldn’t discern it from the twitter thread.
Brachiator
@lamh36:
I read it. I am underwhelmed. So, Mayor Pete is wrong. Is there a candidate who Harriot thinks understands the issue?
Mike J
@Kent: Parents would be in charge of their minor children’s medical decisions. Shocking.
Jay
@Kent:
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theroot.com/kamala-harris-mental-healthcare-plan-calls-for-ending-s-1840031454/amp
There is a lot of good in the proposal, but there is also a reliance on institutionalization, a weighting of “authority” to the Industry, and the removal of HIPPA protections for children, minors, those in guardianship, a weighting towards “authority”, that of course, will be gamed against many, from LGTBQ youth to the non-typical.
mrmoshpotato
Nice to see Wilmer catching up to reality. Now he should catch up to the reality that he should’ve dropped out in May 2016 and do so.
rikyrah
Marcus H. Johnson (@marcushjohnson) Tweeted:
Biden now winning 50% of Black voters nationally. If that number goes up as several candidates drop out—if Biden gets to 60% of Black voters nationally—hard to lose with those numbers https://t.co/q2QTQyyrkH https://twitter.com/marcushjohnson/status/1199111189969735681?s=20
Jay
@Mike J:
Amongst other things, parents would have “sole” charge, so Conversion Therapy all round.
A huge number of LGTBQ youth, neurotypical and other youths leave their homes and comunities because family, The State and the “medical professionals” have no understanding or care, for their issues.
when I was a teen, had I not had privacy and empowerment under the Medical Protections here, I would have been dead before I was emancipated, through a combination of ignorance, phobias and malpractice.
under Harris’s proposal, as it sits right now, a mental health “professional” could “out a kid”.
I’m sure it will be fine, it’s not like people in the US are trying to remove all LGTBQ protections, kill trans people medically or provide religious cover for bigots to deny or warp medical care.
You guys would never do that.
Brachiator
Bernie is going to gnaw that bone down to the last bit of gristle. This is his thing, the the Democrats and the GOP have both left the grassroots voter behind, and that only he, Bernie the Magnificent, can come to the rescue.
ETA: the system did not retain my nym and email from a past post.
mrmoshpotato
@Brachiator:
You know what you did. :)
Nice to see Wilmer has his shouting point already. I’ll find a way to avoid watching him beat it into the ground INCOME INEQUALITY!-style.
Brachiator
@Jay:
I do not believe that any Democrat would.
David ??Booooooo?? Koch
Johnny Carson used to say Howard Cosell was “a legend in his own mind”.
New York Mayors are no different.
Bloomberg is Ghouliani redux.
If he can’t get get any interest in all White states like Iowa and NH then how can he win in non White states.
Ruckus
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yes but we already knew that.
Citizen Alan
@Cacti:
I just had an epiphany: It’s Both! These people do believe that the system has left them behind. But they also are convinced that it has done so by robbing them of opportunities that are then transferred to Those People.
Sloane Ranger
After the Metropolitan Police bungled the investigation into the murder of Stephen Lawrence. An inquiry into what went wrong was set up under a High Court Judge. It found that the investigation had been hampered from the very beginning by what it called “institutional racism “.
It was clear from the report that they were not accusing individual officers of being actively racist but rather that there were procedures and assumptions that were colour blind on their face but, when taken together, had the effect of being racist.
Unfortunately, all too many police officers just heard the word “racist” and became very defensive. It took us a lot of work to re-write the policies and procedures in liaison with black officers and community groups and institute the organisational change programme required, especially in light of the push back from many rank and file officers who kept alleging we were accusing them of being individually racist.
Things are far from perfect now but they are considerably better than they were.
Mary G
@David ??Booooooo?? Koch: Exactly Rudy Colludy decided to skip the little starting states and win big in Florida. Didn’t work for him and not going to work now.
The biggest effect he has on me is to increase my support of Warren. She would be a killer Treasury Secretary.
Citizen Alan
@Jay:
From BernieBros? I’m not seeing much daylight.
BlueDWarrior
Buttigeg is not high on my list for reasons others have gone over, it feels like he’s running to fill the temperamental moderate slot but really not saying anything aside from modern semi-progressive boilerplate things.
At least Biden can say, when he isn’t mangling his words, what he’d do and how far he thinks he might be able to get a slightly Republican Senate to go if it came down to that. Which is why he still remains 3rd on my list at the moment: which is Warren > Harris > Biden > Sanders > Booker … .
opiejeanne
@lamh36: I loved that clip of Mindy Kaling and Kamala Harris cooking Indian food in Mindy’s kitchen.
mrmoshpotato
There’s probably a better thread for this, but I just saw it.
opiejeanne
@mrmoshpotato: Ugh. and Trump wants Gallagher to campaign with him. This is a guy whose fellow SEALS testified that they “adjusted” his gun(s) so that he would miss targets because they saw him sniping civilians.
Van Buren
@lamh36: Damn that was good.
mrmoshpotato
@opiejeanne: Yeah. Tell me about it.
Dan B
@lamh36: After reading Michael Harriot’s piece I still believe Pete is just clueless. He’s clueless to what he doesn’t know. He’s clueless that high IQ and academic achievement doesn’t necessatily give him wisdom or the perfect answer to all issues. It’s infuriating and it would seem like a lie from the perspective of many black and brown people. It also comes across as condescending which is a problem with many bright people who are short on experience.
I was involved in civil rights in 1965 and in environmental social justice for the past decade. I’m still surprised at how much I have left to understand. Pete fails at humility.
Lies – nah. Terminal blind spots – probably so.
A better title might be “Pete is color blind, but mostly just blind to people of color.”
Rusty
@Jay: I did read the article. Yes, there is racism in under funding majority minority schools, in black college graduates having twice the unemployment rate, and so on. But you could fix both of those things tomorrow and the rate of truancy for minority kids wouldn’t change. The kids aren’t getting to school because of poverty (poverty at much higher rates because of racism, I am not Bernie who thinks fixing economics fixes racism). Poor white kids aren’t getting to school either. But if you want kids in school you need to directly confront their poverty. And let’s also fund their schools better and not segregate their schools from the suburban majority white schools.
Barbara
@Jay: HIPAA defers 100% to state policy on the issue of parental access to information based on guardianship principles. 100%. I rate high the chances that someone has no idea what they are talking about. Don’t feel like lending an expert hand this morning.
Barbara
@Dan B: Ouch. But probably right. It seems to me that he has more than a few blind spots but this one is probably the most damaging.
Richard Guhl
@lamh36: Wow! What a powerful testimony, what powerful truth!
Chris Johnson
Here’s another angle to see it from, which applies to some of the ‘useful idiot’ progressives who’re buying in to a lot of Russian propaganda.
The system has left these people behind and robbed them of their lives, opportunities, much like it has done to black Americans for our whole history… AND these people are complete assholes who operate on a toxic belief system of which racism, sexism are only part of it.
EmbraceYourInnerCrone
@lamh36: I love Michael Harriot’s articles on The Root. I hear about a lot of things there, that the MSM don’t write about (although I often see things a week after I read them on The Root, on one of the MSM websites like they had a revelation…)