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Here It Is (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  November 26, 20199:03 am| 65 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, The War On Women, Women's Rights Are Human Rights

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I get tired of saying it, so I assume y’all get tired of hearing it, but the presence of the leering misogynist Donald Trump in the Oval Office is a daily, incarnate insult to women, a constant orange beacon that illuminates our second-class citizenship. And it is made all the more unbearable by the complicity of the (overwhelmingly white) women who helped put him there.

This is a truth we confront daily. But sometimes, the base materials that created this hideous aspect of Trumpism come together under pressure to yield a perfect diamond of ignorant, braying sexist bullshit. And here it is:

“I’m curious why wasn’t it done a long time ago? And also, I guess the answer to that is because now I’m president, we get things done.”

President Trump signs the Woman’s Suffrage Centennial Coin Act. pic.twitter.com/jkcOCzQyNa

— The Hill (@thehill) November 26, 2019

For those disinclined to watch the clip, Trump is celebrating himself signing the Woman’s Suffrage Centennial Coin Act, which commemorates the passage of the 19th Amendment that gave women the right to vote. (The 19th Amendment passed the House in 1919 and was ratified in 1920.)

Trump signed the Woman’s Suffrage Centennial Coin Act next to a woman dressed as a beauty pageant contestant in a tight “suffragette white” sheath dress and sash. Trump wonders aloud why it took so long to get this particular act signed into law — wholly ignorant of the meaning of the word “centennial,” it appears — and credits himself with finally getting it done.

Then Trump asks the Platonic Ideal of the anti-woman Trump woman, Senator Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), to give remarks. This clip mercifully spares us Blackburn’s remarks, but we can assume they were embarrassingly obsequious. She may even have credited Trump with giving women the right to vote rather than signing an act creating a commemorative coin 100 years later, who knows.

So, if you see women in your life who are not Marsha Blackburn rage-drinking or punching through plaster walls, this sort of thing might explain it. Open thread!

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    November 26, 2019 at 9:08 am

    I’ve read that the suffragettes actually asked for a five year delay in passing the 19th amendment because they didn’t want Obama to issue this coin.

  2. 2.

    Chris

    November 26, 2019 at 9:13 am

    “But sometimes, the base materials that created this hideous aspect of Trumpism come together under pressure to yield a perfect diamond of ignorant, braying sexist bullshit.”—Beautiful Betty…Thats why John pays you the big bucks!

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    November 26, 2019 at 9:17 am

    Elaine Chao simpering in the background….

  4. 4.

    Kay

    November 26, 2019 at 9:17 am

    Exaggerating ordinary functions of the President and pretending they’re ground-breaking work is a key feature of both Trump and the Trump Administration. Ivanka is a pro at it. She babbles some comments at a manufacturing plant and believes she’s fundamentally altered the US economy.
    I think it goes back to privileged, pampered, insulated upbringing. Just showing up gets you a trophy.

  5. 5.

    Citizen_X

    November 26, 2019 at 9:18 am

    “We’ve been working on this for years and years.” A centennial commemorative coin. SMDH.

  6. 6.

    Bunter

    November 26, 2019 at 9:19 am

    I have kept my neighborhood liquor stores in business since the day after the 2016 election. I’m not sure how I still have a liver…Since I rent punching through dry wall isn’t an option. The constant rage I feel makes not punching or throwing things an exercise in self-control daily.

  7. 7.

    Nicole

    November 26, 2019 at 9:20 am

    Better a commemorative coin than equal pay though, amirite, dudes?

  8. 8.

    AliceBlue

    November 26, 2019 at 9:20 am

    Oh my god.  I just…words fail.

  9. 9.

    Kay

    November 26, 2019 at 9:22 am

    I do think the Trump Administration/Trump campaign efforts to appear slightly less horrible as 2019 winds down are proof that they are not, in fact, invulnerable and also care very much what people think of them.

    Caring what people think but not being able to persuade people to like you is not the same thing as not caring what people think. They care about popularity and polls and public perception. They just can’t convince anyone who isn’t already in their corner that they aren’t mean spirited, petty assholes.

  10. 10.

    wuzzat

    November 26, 2019 at 9:22 am

    Is someone going to tell him what centennial means, or does the stable genius think he just gave women the right to vote?

  11. 11.

    gene108

    November 26, 2019 at 9:26 am

    Wasn’t one of the conservative arguments against women’s suffrage that women voting would destroy the traditional family?

    Women’s suffrage was an assault on family values.

    How true conservatives of 125 years ago would shudder at the sight of a Sen. Blackburn, who would be castigated for being a liberal anti-family slut for taking a man’s job.

    TL;DR: I am sick of “conservative” women taking advantage of liberal advances for women for their own personal and professional ends.

  12. 12.

    Kay

    November 26, 2019 at 9:27 am

    Rachel Cohen
    @rmc031
    ·45m
    I forgot Bloomberg spent nearly $10 million to re-elect Pat Toomey in 2016. Toomey beat Katie McGinty, a Democrat, who would have been Pennsylvania’s first female senator

    There will be a very long list like this. Bloomberg has probably spent to defeat Democrats as often as he’s spent to elect them. I’m not even sure it’s a wash. He’s probably a net loss.

  13. 13.

    Avalune

    November 26, 2019 at 9:27 am

    The more infuriating thing is imagining all the MAGAs out there thinking look at this! And adding it to their imaginary tally of the “many many things he’s accomplished with his presidency.” One more thing to martyr him in their eyes.

  14. 14.

    Betty Cracker

    November 26, 2019 at 9:28 am

    @Kay: I agree they care what people think. Remember when Trump saw some program about prison reform and went off on John Legend (and comically, criticized Van Jones, even though Jones wasn’t involved in the program) for not giving him sufficient credit for the First Step Act?

    There’s probably a draft tweet that says “I AM SO MUCH BETTER TO YOU PEOPLE THAN OBAMA YOUR THE REAL RACIST FOR HATING TRUMP!!!”

  15. 15.

    Baud

    November 26, 2019 at 9:28 am

    @Kay:

     

    If only we had some rule that you have to be a Democrat to run in the Democratic primary.

  16. 16.

    germy

    November 26, 2019 at 9:33 am

    Tennesseans are asking: “where’s Marsha?” With good reason too! You haven’t held a town hall in three years. #MoscowMarsha

    — Christopher J. Hale (@chrisjollyhale) November 24, 2019

  17. 17.

    JPL

    November 26, 2019 at 9:34 am

    What about Harriet Tubman, does her feats not count.

  18. 18.

    Betty Cracker

    November 26, 2019 at 9:36 am

    I’d like to know the backstory behind the woman in the white dress. Here’s my guess: they originally showed Trump a storyboard featuring a woman wearing a period Suffragette costume, but Trump took one look at her and said “Who’s that old bag with a doily on her head?” So they had to rethink the whole thing.

  19. 19.

    Wapiti

    November 26, 2019 at 9:36 am

    @Baud: I would offer: you need to have won an elected office as a Democratic to run in the Democratic primary for President.

  20. 20.

    germy

    November 26, 2019 at 9:36 am

    So Judge Joe Brown doesn't appreciate us disagreeing with his remarks about Harriet Tubman being on the $20 bill as "emasculating" to black men ? pic.twitter.com/Z65US5FukB

    — The Breakfast Club (@breakfastclubam) November 22, 2019

  21. 21.

    jeffreyw

    November 26, 2019 at 9:39 am

    Sen. Kennedy realizes that he thoroughly embarrassed himself the day before on @FoxNews. https://t.co/TAWnmyHiIA— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) November 26, 2019

  22. 22.

    Kay

    November 26, 2019 at 9:45 am

    @Betty Cracker:

     

    I think they’re so goddamned NEEDY it’s appalling. All of them. The whole Trump Family. They are desperate to be loved – worshiped. Ugh.

    Hollow, empty people who rely on bullying to get something that looks a little like respect and admiration but is instead capitulation and groveling.  They’re hostage takers. They’ll suck everything out of the people who have the misfortune to end up in their orbit, which sadly includes us at the moment.

  23. 23.

    Kay

    November 26, 2019 at 9:49 am

    @Betty Cracker:

     

    One of the things I liked and respected about the Obamas if they would allow people to not like them.

    There was no demand. It was great if you thought they were fab but if you didn’t there wouldn’t be this daily fucking DEMAND that they somehow get their due from the public.

    It’s the difference between entire, whole human beings and whatever these damaged, media-created  husks are.

  24. 24.

    rikyrah

    November 26, 2019 at 9:53 am

    One of the things that will linger for me from 2016 is my bitterness at the stark contrast of candidates. One was obviously qualified…the other was an orange, sexual assaulting con man.

    I honestly can’t get past it. Period. And, yes, I blame White women.

    They didn’t have to vote like Black women, but, if they had just voted like Latina women, we’d be talking about the re-election campaign of President Hillary Clinton.

  25. 25.

    dmsilev

    November 26, 2019 at 9:57 am

    @Citizen_X:

    “We’ve been working on this for years and years.” A centennial commemorative coin. SMDH.

    Given the competence of his administration, there’s a nontrivial chance that it’s true.

  26. 26.

    germy

    November 26, 2019 at 9:59 am

    @dmsilev:  His whole thing is “I did this thing Obama couldn’t accomplish”

     

    First president to run for office simply out of spite?

     

    It’s personal when it comes to Trump and Obama.  #44 seems to live in #45’s head full-time.

  27. 27.

    the Conster

    November 26, 2019 at 9:59 am

    @rikyrah:

     

    White women, of which I am one, will never fail to disappoint me.  They’re foot soldiers of the white patriarchy.

  28. 28.

    Kay

    November 26, 2019 at 9:59 am

    If this were a normal President, one media didn’t treat as a delightful maverick who doesn’t play by the rules and is a fascinating genius, the analysis would be “they must be in trouble with middle and upper income educated women”

    And that’s the truth so that should be our analysis. Strip away all this bullshit and you have a sort of desperate and really amateurish 11th hour attempt to paint douchebag as something he’s not. It’ll work enough to drag his sorry ass over the finish line or it won’t, but that’s ALL it is.

  29. 29.

    Matt McIrvin

    November 26, 2019 at 10:02 am

    @Kay: That’s being a normal First Family. I don’t think it’s even a Democratic thing– before Trump, Presidents understood that being intensely disliked by a lot of people was part of the job, and “fair treatment”, let alone love from the masses, was not something you were owed as a perk of office. I think even Bush understood that. Trump is not capable of it.

  30. 30.

    The Moar You Know

    November 26, 2019 at 10:04 am

    Sen. Kennedy realizes that he thoroughly embarrassed himself the day before on @FoxNews. 

     

    @jeffreyw: And then backtracks on CNN, where no Fox viewers will see it.

     

    He’s quite a bit smarter than I gave him credit for!

  31. 31.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 26, 2019 at 10:07 am

    @jeffreyw: Sure. As I said downstairs, he throws the red meat to the base when he’s on Fox, then does a limited walkback when he’s on CNN, knowing full well that the base doesn’t watch that. Russian goals accomplished perfectly.

     

    And why didn’t Chris Cuomo ask Kennedy why he celebrated the US’s Independence Day in Moscow?

  32. 32.

    lgerard

    November 26, 2019 at 10:11 am

    As someone pointed out, note the women in arms reach on the left zealously guarding their “private areas”.

  33. 33.

    BC in Illinois

    November 26, 2019 at 10:11 am

    “Yeah, and why wasn’t the 50th Anniversary of Woodstock celebrated a long time ago? I guess the answer to that is because now I’m president, we get things done.”

    Centennials — how do they work?

    A century comes, a century goes — you can’t explain that.

     

    It would have been perhaps more fitting, if the Women’s Voting Centennial Celebration had been held after 83 years. But GWB missed that opportunity.

  34. 34.

    SFAW

    November 26, 2019 at 10:13 am

    @rikyrah:

    They didn’t have to vote like Black women, but, if they had just voted like Latina women, we’d be talking about the re-election campaign of President Hillary Clinton.

    More likely the “re-election” campaign of Tim Kaine, given that Moscow Mitch would have rounded up enough votes to convict Herstory’s Greatest Monster, circa February 20, 2017.

  35. 35.

    No One of Consequence

    November 26, 2019 at 10:15 am

    @Baud: Well played.

     

    – NOoC

  36. 36.

    Bruce K

    November 26, 2019 at 10:15 am

    I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating: I hope I live long enough to make a pilgrimage to the prison cell where Donald J. Trump died.

  37. 37.

    SFAW

    November 26, 2019 at 10:16 am

    @SFAW:

    Edit not working so: my eta would have been “Actually, probably President Paul Ryan, because they would have impeached and convicted Kaine as well, for some to-be-determined reason.”

     

    Now that I’ve written this ETA, I expect the edit function will return.

     

    ETA: As expected, edit is back on the original comment.

  38. 38.

    cain

    November 26, 2019 at 10:22 am

    These idjits should feel the walls closing in on them. White women need to step up and stop following the white patriarchy.

    I am too sleepy to do a good rejoinder.

  39. 39.

    Just Chuck

    November 26, 2019 at 10:24 am

    @germy:

    First president to run for office simply out of spite?

    First one to be elected* on a platform of spite, certainly.

  40. 40.

    Just Chuck

    November 26, 2019 at 10:28 am

    @cain:

    White women need to step up

    This works about as well as the common lectures of “Black men need to …”  The call has to come from inside the house and be relevant to the group and their concerns.  In the case of whites like me, a lot of those concerns are about holding on to power, so I don’t know how to address it other than “chill the fuck out, it’s not that bad”.

     

    Maybe accentuating how racism is dividing everyone, including white people from each other … I dunno.  If I had answers, I’d run for office myself.

  41. 41.

    Chip Daniels

    November 26, 2019 at 10:29 am

    One of the difficulties feminism has had is that women comprise half the population and can’t easily be woven together into a coherent constituency.

     

    Feminism is really integrally bound to class; The Republican women standing behind Trump show that there is a large constituency in favor of patriarchy, among women themselves. Women who gain power and privilege from patriarchy and the class structure that allows Ivanka to look down at a male worker even if she herself is treated as a disposable bauble by the men in her life.

  42. 42.

    the Conster

    November 26, 2019 at 10:31 am

    @cain:

     

    If white men voted for Dems in the same percentages that white women do, we’d have landslides every election and the GOP would be extinct.

  43. 43.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    November 26, 2019 at 10:33 am

    NO SURPRISE – Trump doesn’t understand the concept of centennial. Presumably Trump though the US Bi-centennial was about gay rights.

     

    NO SURPRISE – Trump surrounds him self with young women looking like they are about to go to the club (I mean seriously, speaking as a guy, that’s creepy he has no motherly types in his circle)

     

    SURPRISE – Trump didn’t claim he gave the women the right to vote (complete with “and America’s women said ‘thank you sir’ with tears in their eyes)

  44. 44.

    karen marie

    November 26, 2019 at 10:33 am

    @SFAW: In my limited dxperience, I have found refreshing makes things appear.

  45. 45.

    Ruckus

    November 26, 2019 at 10:39 am

    @Kay:

    They just can’t convince anyone who isn’t already in their corner that they aren’t mean spirited, petty assholes.

    Pretty difficult to do when you work at proving otherwise 23 3/4 hrs a day.

  46. 46.

    Ruckus

    November 26, 2019 at 10:41 am

    @Kay:

    He’s probably absolutely a net loss.

     

    Fixed for you.

  47. 47.

    SFAW

    November 26, 2019 at 10:44 am

    @karen marie:

    In my limited dxperience, I have found refreshing makes things appear.

    I know. Refreshed about five times, no change, so did a Reply — fully expecting the Edit function would return as soon as I posted the follow-up. [Which has also happened to me.]

  48. 48.

    droog

    November 26, 2019 at 10:45 am

    It’s a coin, so ‘centennial’ refers to cents. Obviously.

  49. 49.

    Tazj

    November 26, 2019 at 10:46 am

    Trump is such a disgrace and a moron and most of the press does a heroic job ignoring his crimes and his insulting or idiotic comments. Even yesterday, and this is a minor point, but Trump thinking that it sounded good for him to say he wanted to muzzle the dog, was stupid. Everyone knows this is a highly trained dog and they aren’t muzzled. People have seen army and police dogs in public before.

    We’re all supposed to put up with it and ignore it because he was “elected.” If you complain you’re being divisive and not a good sport. A president who has been credibly accused of sexual assault numerous times, has treated his 3 wives poorly and works overtime to make life miserable for women, holding a ceremony to honor suffragettes is ridiculous.

    A CBS article about the ceremony stated that this was rare occasion when both parties passed something together and that it was noteworthy coming in the midst of an impeachment inquiry. Bill Clinton somehow signed legislation during his impeachment but the only person who has remembered this recently is Bill Clinton.

  50. 50.

    Ella in New Mexico

    November 26, 2019 at 10:50 am

    @rikyrah: And, yes, I blame White women.

    It would be nice if we could come up with a term that distinguishes White Women Who Voted for Trump from all white women.

     

    As a white woman, who is related to and friends with dozens and dozens of white women who voted for Clinton, I’m tired of being thrown into that same smelly trash heap.

  51. 51.

    mapaghimagsik

    November 26, 2019 at 10:54 am

    @cain: But then who would they be better than?

  52. 52.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    November 26, 2019 at 10:55 am

    @Ella in New Mexico:It would be nice if we could come up with a term that distinguishes White Women Who Voted for Trump from all white women.

     

    “White trash of all classes” there, that’s even gender neutral.

  53. 53.

    Emma

    November 26, 2019 at 11:04 am

    @SFAW: Not without referral from the House and that was in Democratic hands.

  54. 54.

    Shalimar

    November 26, 2019 at 11:05 am

    @Baud: I agree 100% that only Democrats should be allowed to run in the Democratic primary, and I’m also glad that isn’t the rule this year.  Getting rid of Trump is too critical to the future of the country to risk Sanders deciding to run as an independent rather than join the party.

  55. 55.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 26, 2019 at 11:06 am

    @Kay:

    I think it goes back to privileged, pampered, insulated upbringing. Just showing up gets you a trophy.

    A trophy for just showing up. Would ‘just showing up’ count as participating? Hmm….a trophy for participating, what would that be called?

    Screaming Rethuglican dunderheads, could you give a dumbass libtard a hint?

  56. 56.

    Kay

    November 26, 2019 at 11:10 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

     

    She has been told this her whole life, too. I have proof. Even now her repulsive dad exaggerates her achievements. He says she “created 14 million jobs”

     

    So. Her whole life this has been going on.

  57. 57.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 26, 2019 at 11:17 am

     

    @Betty Cracker: Thankfully my browser doesn’t load pictures from embedded tweets unless I click on them.  This “swimsuit suffragette” costume is most definitely worse than I’m imagining.

  58. 58.

    Kay

    November 26, 2019 at 11:22 am

    My son sent me video of the “Berlin office” of his Danish employer and they are literally drinking beer from huge Bavarian-looking mugs. I thought that was a caricature of Germany. What next? He starts wearing lederhosen? I knew he would assimilate, because he’s basically a traitor. Every man for himself! That’s his motto. No matter that his country is collapsing. Not a care in the world.

  59. 59.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 26, 2019 at 11:26 am

    @germy:

    His whole thing is “I did this thing Obama couldn’t accomplish”

    First president to run for office simply out of spite?

    Yes.

  60. 60.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 26, 2019 at 11:33 am

    @SFAW:

    More likely the “re-election” campaign of Tim Kaine, given that Moscow Mitch would have rounded up enough votes to convict Herstory’s Greatest Monster, circa February 20, 2017.

    Don’t you mean January? Specifically, enough votes by January 20, 2017 12:02PM.

  61. 61.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 26, 2019 at 11:40 am

    @Kay: Fourteen million Chinese sweatshop jobs?

  62. 62.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 26, 2019 at 11:42 am

    @Kay: 1. “Berlin office”?  2. Ow.

  63. 63.

    scuffletuffle

    November 26, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    @wuzzat: If we can convince his fans that that’s what he did, his popularity will plummit…

  64. 64.

    stinger

    November 26, 2019 at 3:53 pm

    @Wapiti: you need to have won an elected office as a [Democrat] to run in the Democratic primary for President.

    Yes. This exactly.

  65. 65.

    Mary Ellen Sandahl

    November 26, 2019 at 6:59 pm

    @the Conster:
    Many people feel this way. I do myself, but I also try to remember that a lot of these white women live with husbands who monitor what their wives think and say as a matter of course.

    MSNBC started an online poll about impeachment/removal just recently… and it’s completely anonymous. Be interesting to see their results.

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