on the bright side, the aviation geek in me is excited for all the cool shit Trump will declassify when people make fun of him for not having any spaceships for the space force, tweeting out all the stuff from groom lake on his iphone
— Botswana Starfish Totally Not Blackmailing POTUS (@IRHotTakes) December 7, 2019
But seriously… I doubt it will happen, because the Repubs don’t want a bunch of ‘low-level bureaucrats’ (federal employees) to get ‘freebies paid from our taxes’, especially right before Christmas (because they can’t enjoy their holiday unless they know other people are suffering). But I would happily trade an expansion of paid family leave in return for, let’s be honest, years of scheduling Very Serious Hearings about a sixth branch of the military. The Washington Post is a good guide here, IMO, because they’re reporting on what they consider a local pocketbook issue:
… The deal is part of a defense authorization bill that is slated to pass this month. If consummated, the agreement could mark one of the biggest deals President Trump has cut with Congress. It would secure a massive expansion of benefits for federal workers, something Democrats have long sought, in exchange for a realignment of the U.S. military that Trump has sought to secure as part of his legacy…
One Democratic congressional aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the parties are “nearing agreement on a final deal.” The package could be voted on as early as next week, the aide said.
If it is approved, the extension of paid family leave to federal workers would represent a major benefit to more than 2 million federal civilian workers, who are only eligible for unpaid leave under federal law.
It would mark a reversal of sorts for the White House, which has sought to strip pay and benefits from federal workers since Trump took office in 2017. Instead, it would mark one of the biggest extensions of a new work benefit for the federal workforce in recent history…
Trump has become increasingly fixated on Space Force as his administration faces the House impeachment inquiry, according to one senior administration official. But it has not been clear if House Democrats would approve of his request.
The Pentagon has already reestablished a Space Command that will be headed by a four-star general. But the Space Force, if approved, would stand up an organization to train and equip specialized forces whose mission would be to accelerate the country’s response to the militarization of space…
A senior defense official with knowledge of Space Force discussions said Thursday that the Air Force convened a planning task force months ago and is weighing “myriad” issues, including how service members would be transferred from the Air Force to the Space Force, what Space Force uniforms would look like, and what rank structure would be used…
Still, there are a variety of more complicated issues that will take the Pentagon time to hammer out, the official said. They include logistical issues, such as where Space Force headquarters will be housed in the Pentagon, and practical ones, such as whether the Space Force will have its own security forces on the ground or rely on other branches of service.
For federal employees, the deal represents not just a rare new benefit, but a victory in a three-year war with the Trump administration that from the start was suspicious of the career bureaucracy of 2.1 million employees.
The White House has gone to war with unions that represent federal workers and won. In recent months it has gotten reprieves from the courts over a union challenge to a series of White House executive orders designed to weaken labor’s hand in collective bargaining.
The administration has slashed long-established benefits such as telework in many agencies and taken steps to more aggressively fire workers it deems poor performers. And while Trump has proposed a raise for the workforce for next year, he did not want an increase this year until Congress intervened, demanding it under the terms of a budget agreement that ended the partial government shutdown…
Can Space Force be canceled the minute Trump leaves office?
My first thought is that any deal that Trump makes is worth less than a turd from the kitty litter box. Whatever he promises won’t come to reality, and we would be stuck with a stupid 6th branch of the military. If anyone wants to talk me down from that particular ledge, let me know.
Doesn’t actually need to be officially “cancelled”, IMO — the army bureaucracy is more than competent to slow-walk Trump’s nitwitted proposal well into the next century, if necessary.
But the paid parental leave can be used now (well, when the next budget cycle starts), and it’s always a lot more difficult to claw back benefits than to resist new ones. And the article quotes Princess Ivanka praising the idea, so that makes it (incrementally) more likely to happen, if the budget is passed.
In the Baud! administration, we’re taking the fight to the underworld with … Hell Force!
WaPo via Anne Laurie @ Top:
You know Trump was fixated on those uniforms. Probably wants them designed by Ivanka.
Fascists <em>LOVE</em> their uniforms and authoritarian costumes. I really think fascism, in addition to being a toxic ideology, should also be categorized as a fetish.
hells littlest angel
I wish I could, but you’re probably right. On the bright side, SpaceForce! is also unlikely to come into being, and will end up in the same dustbin as Infrastructure Week and The Wall.
I’m all for this for the youth that will, FSM willing, choose to serve our country as Civil Servants long after this fossil is gone.
The Pentagon bureaucracy hasn’t been hollowed out enough yet to forget how to resist THE STUPID.
I’m vindictive enough to want to have everything he did canceled and erased, just as he did to those of his predecessor. And then let it all eat at him.
so they’ll be copied from another designer??
Ooh! Rows of tiny seed pearls!
Isn’t this just putting a new coat of paint on the space command from 1985?
Troubling to me is that it gives Dolt 45 a de jure excuse (contrived as it may be) for pulling out of the Outer Space Treaty, so against it for that reason alone unless doing so is specifically proscribed in the legislation.
hells littlest angel
That would make sense. A contract for 10 million uniforms, a couple thousand of which actually get produced, which then sit in a warehouse while Trump “strongly looks at” implementing his Space Force.
@JGabriel: I thought the same thing.
But when Trump finds out the women aren’t going to be wearing Lt. Uhura minidresses, betcha he loses all interest.
Further militarization of space is a bad idea. Trading a benefit for federal workers by putting the entire world at greater risk in the future is not worth it.
Mike in NC
Fat Bastard wants to think about his legacy? Hell, we all know what that’s going to be. No to wasting billions on Space Farce and its Field Marshal Jared Kushner.
I see this in the shitgibbon’s tiny brain, probably backed by some cheesy ’70s cartoon theme music. In reality it will take 17 years of committees, memos and powerpoints to decide on a uniform. What sort of camouflage does one wear in space?
Nothing says “space” like silver jumpsuits. (Ivanka version?)
@John Revolta: Heh. Star Trek boots for the men, yea or nay?
@debbie: No, the institution will have too many defenders. It would be like trying to put the Coast Guard back under Treasury, where it logically belongs. I’m surprised the Air Force isn’t fighting harder to prevent this. Are they satiated with the graft they’re getting from the F-35 program? Seems impossible. Grifters are never satiated. There must be ambitious people who see a better chance for themselves in a separate branch. More flag officer positions (i.e., generals and/or admirals). Why isn’t the Navy trying to grab this? Many science fiction stories have space navies.
David ??Booooooo?? Koch
Dump got his space force notion from watching Mel Brooks’s “Space Balls” on late night tee vee.
SpaceForce! motto: “In space no one can hear you plotz.”
I support work requirements on babies that want to be born in the ninth month.
hells littlest angel
@zhena gogolia: Babies born in the ninth month need to be sent back to apply for citizenship legally.
Wasn’t that a part of Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 plan?
David ??Booooooo?? Koch
Going cruisin’ in a spaceship, we’re so good at being bad
We’ll destroy your little planet if you ever get us mad
We’re mothers of the galaxy
You better scatter when you see
We’re the masters of space
We’re the Spaceballs!
@NotMax: OMG I had no idea! Someone should be kilt for that.
@hells littlest angel:
We need a wall to keep babies from being born in the ninth month.
@zhena gogolia: Gah! Clicked. Brain hurt.
To roughly quote Charles Stross, “Say you’re the US and you want to invade a small country. For ground forces, do you use the Army, or the Navy’s Army (the Marines)? And for air support, do you use the Air Force, the Army’s Air Force, the Navy’s Air Force, or the Marines’ Air Force?”
OT: Mayor Pete ain’t qualified to be preznit, but the focus on his McKinsey career is ridiculous. At the age he was there, he was simply taking orders and doing whatever his managing director told him to do. I will give a nod to folks who say that private sector experience had some semblance of mattering – because it sure seems like some folks (ahem Uncle Joe) who have never made a true living not being in the public sector may not be able to grasp this.
Clearly they are not reading the same comic books as Trump. They will obviously be housed in the orbiting Space Force(TM) Command Satellite(TM).
(Meanwhile, the Chinese will be on the Moon, and building the infrastructure to stage the bombardment scenes from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.)
@zhena gogolia: I may be mis-remembering but I’m almost certain that my Biology teacher taught us that the human gestation period was 9 months and subsequent life experience seems to support this, give or take.
Or, in other words, what the hell!!!
@Baud: “In the Baud! administration, we’re taking the fight to the underworld with … Hell Force!”
Baud 2020! A bigger better dumpster fire! For a brighter future!
Hobos can put dumpster fires to good use.
Apparently it’s the second time he’s said it.
I am surprised this deal, which since it involves Trump probably won’t come to anything, is considered a topic for a front post.
Some random person, probably some lobbyist with a $ agenda, walked into Trump’s office, and informed him of the great toilet flushing crisis, which is wasting mass quantities of water. I myself, have had to flush 15, 20 times, but was in despair since I know the Deep State would ignore my concerns. I think some GOP Congress critter complained about Deep State environmentalist tyranny preventing his huge turgid manly dumps from getting properly flushed. Was that Issa, or King, or the felon Hunter or someone else.
Also I think the new GOP/Issa push for prison reform for white collar crime committed by Duncan Hunter is very important. Deserves deeper analysis than can be done in that one post from yesterday.
@zhena gogolia: Huh? Is there going to be a GOP mandate to re-implant premature babies back into the… you know… the… lady baby place, whatever and wherever that is?
Edit: since a GOP state leg has made a great scientific breakthrough by demanding ectopic pregnancy fetuses be implanted in the lady baby place, whatever and wherever that is, making everything all better, demanding that all babies br 9 month babies is the next frontier.
Pity there weren’t any adults standing behind him. Their expressions would have been priceless.
hells littlest angel
@Baud: And women will pay for it.
as a fed, i hope trump doesn’t use this as an excuse to spike our january raise. “what, i gave you people family leave”
Major Major Major Major
Apparently the newest lefty-twitter thing is that Mayor Pete is a deep state plant
Possibly a problem with your diet. Those floaters are notoriously difficult to flush away.
@Major Major Major Major:
I thought we liked the deep state.
Ah, it’s from 2018. Not that this makes it any better.
The best people!
Somewhere out there is a bunch of Vulcans monitoring our broadcast communications laughing their fucking asses off.
@Patricia Kayden: I would have not hired her solely on the basis of her fashion brand choices.
@Patricia Kayden: THE health appointee, the one appointed to take it all apart, Seema Verma.
@Martin: Space aliens can objectively study the strange phenomenon of human devolution. We, sadly, cannot.
Devo | In The Beginning Was The End | THE TRUTH ABOUT DE EVOLUTION
I initially read that to say that she did the stealing.
I guarantee you that, on the Space Force ships, you’ll only have to flush once thanks to Trump.
@Baud: In a Baud 2020! administration, federal workers will be reimbursed for spilled beer and pork rinds. It’s long past time that the federal government got its priorities right.
@Major Major Major Major:
God, is he Putin’s latest target?
Via Josh Marshall
No, he just said it again.
Better than parental leave.
@Baud: But, given the habits of a Baud 2020! administration federal workforce, probably more expensive.
@zhena gogolia: OK, so we’re back to the postnatal abortion thing. And the same speech. Great.
Major Major Major Major
@zhena gogolia: Who knows, these are the sorts of people who thought Snowden’s “2016 is a choice between Goldman Sachs and Donald Trump” tweet was a rip-roaring good point…
David ??Booooooo?? Koch
@Baud: True. I always liked Deep State Nine
It came from a random comment/anecdote overheard from someone dining at Mar-a-lago. Can’t prove it, but Trump’s Razor.
Can someone please explain this 9-month pregnancy issue to me? I don’t get what they are talking about at all.
So we’re fighting the Russkis in space again? Doesn’t Dump know he’s Putin’s bitch, or is his orange brain that far gone?
@The Dangerman: Once!? I think it depends…
Trump just said (again) that it’s horrible that in some states babies are being born from their mother’s womb in the ninth month. He apparently means “torn” but doesn’t say it.
@Ken: Space Cops.
You Will Respect My Space AUTHORITAH!
The Space Farce thing is really weird. It’s not like there was a big lobbying effort to establish it, and it wasn’t something Republicans knew they wanted until Grandpa Brainworms declared it super important. I always assumed that it would never go anywhere because Republicans in Congress would never be willing to trade anything good to the Democrats for it. The cultification of the Republican Party just gets deeper and deeper.
Where the hell did this come from? One this is for sure: someone is planning to profit considerably from this, and they’ve convinced Dump that he’s going to profit too.
Are you implying Trumpers think its time to press for “lenience” for Dear Leader’s upcoming myriad convictions?
Ain’t gonna work this time, MAGAts.
@Mike in NC: Hell, his legacy is already being a traitorous, Soviet shitpile, mobster, conman who’s been sucking Kremlin ass since ’87.
@Hungry Joe: “In space, I’m tremendous bigly, and no one can hear me slurping away at Putin’s ass.”
” The Space Farce thing is really weird…. Where the hell did this come from? One this is for sure: someone is planning to profit considerably from this, and they’ve convinced Dump that he’s going to profit too. ”
Well, Trump somehow got convinced that there is a toilet flushing crisis in the US, and long suffering citizens are flushing 15 or 20 times due to Deep State oppression and malfeasance. And I can’t figure out who is profiting from it.
When the president is an ignorant, not very bright corrupt swindler who believes any penny ante dipshit insane conspiracy theory, lots of strange things happen.
If the navy can do aquaflage will the Space Farce be vacuumflage?
@chris: sparkly, with plenty of glitter.
@zhena gogolia: It looks to me to be the same speech shot from a different angle and trimmed to make it less understandable as a miss-reading. I think the same people appear in the background but the cropping is such that it is hard to tell. I don’t really trust the source and there is no indication of when or where it was taken.
This is part of the methodical chipping away at Democratic presidential candidates, IMO.
E.g. Nathan Robinson has done a few of these; one recently on Elizabeth Warren – “her campaign seems suspiciously designed to stave off revolution”.
and here’s his on Buttiegieg: McKinsey and Company Is an Elitist Cult. Why Is Buttigieg Defending It? . (Linking just for completeness.)
It seems rather Underpants Gnomes-y:
(1) Help elect Fascists
(3) Socialist(?) utopia!!!
I agree with your take, that it is possible to exit an early low-level career in management consulting before losing one’s soul.
Grandpa Brainworms is worried about aliens. :-)
Alas, these were cancelled and killed by the partial test ban treaty in 1963. Imagine 56 years of tech advances applied to the problem!
USAF 4000 Ton Orion
morphed into this:
“Then, as Kinnison kissed his wife, half a million Lensed members were thrust upward in silent salute.”
OMG, I have not read that in a while. The chapter in question:
For others, it continues:
The Chinese can do math and have a decent grasp of physics so no they won’t build that sort of infrastructure. Rocks From Spaaaace!!! tend to explode in the upper atmosphere and don’t actually deliver much in the Earth-shattering Kaboom! department when they do get to the ground. Really big rocks are another matter (the Meteor Crater impactor, Chicxulub etc.) but it takes a lot of energy over a long time to get them on target, the 100-tonne rocks in Heinlein’s book wouldn’t have made much of an impact, so to speak.
@Baud: First I snorted, then i laughed. I might have been afraid to click the link if it hadn’t been from you.
@zhena gogolia: Oh my god. It’s like they took the 10-year-old version of Hitler’s soulmate, propped him up, and made him President. God help us all.