Former President Obama said that many of the world's problems stem from "old people, usually old men, not getting out of the way." https://t.co/UzinUGiyoJ
— NPR Politics (@nprpolitics) December 17, 2019
Biden campaign not having a great evening. https://t.co/uolZJ8PPIz
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) December 17, 2019
Lotsa twitter-folk Went There, but Biden’s wasn’t the first (or second) name that came to *my* mind:
… Obama made the remarks at a private event in Singapore, where several thousand people gathered to hear the former president discuss leadership and his life in the Oval Office. Ticket prices ranged from around $255 to $955 for the event, which was organized by Australian business events company The Growth Faculty.
The former president said that if women were put in charge of every country for the next two years, the result would be gains “on just about everything,” according to Singapore’s Today.
“There would be less war, kids would be better taken care of and there would be a general improvement in living standards and outcomes,” Obama said…
“If you look at the world and look at the problems, it’s usually old people, usually old men, not getting out of the way,” Obama said, according to a BBC report about the event.
“They cling to power, they are insecure, they have outdated ideas and the energy and fresh vision and new approaches are squashed,” he added, Today reports.
“Now women, I just want you to know, you are not perfect, but what I can say pretty indisputably is that you’re better than us [men],” Obama said, according to the BBC…
Today’s leaders often reflect their constituents’ insecurity, Obama said.
“Part of the challenge we have as humans is that when things get complicated and confusing we tend to want to block it out and look for simple answers,” Obama was quoted as saying by the Straits Times. “So we are, oftentimes, getting a leadership that reflects our own insecurities and problems.”
The Singapore event capped a string of visits to Asian countries by Barack and Michelle Obama in support of the Obama Foundation’s efforts to foster leadership and activism…
Obama for the Warren/Harris/Klobuchar/Gillibrand/Abrams ticket!
(But seriously, saying “old men should get out of the way” in Singapore does not necessarily refer only to America’s elections.)
Anyways, Joe is plenty capable of taking care of himself…
This same poll has you losing to me by 7 points. https://t.co/cbwKoCbW7b
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) December 16, 2019
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Speaking of Biden, he hit Dump yesterday with another hard ad (video)
He’s the only one running ads kicking Dump right in the face.
debbie
Obama’s right, whether he meant it or not.
Doug R
Maybe sideways shade?
There’s old guys way higher up the list , but Joe should maybe take the hint.
debbie
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Why doesn’t he sound like that all the time?
germy
Anyone traveling to Singapore should be aware of their laws:
https://www.goabroad.com/articles/study-abroad/singapore-laws-to-know-before-you-go
NotMax
Cue the theme music for Wild in the Streets and ready the ice floes (while they still exist). To a 20-year-old, someone who is 50 is on the brink of decrepitude; it’s all relative.
Everything old is not necessarily good; everything new is not necessarily better.
Yarrow
Just fucking great:
There’s a whole thread. We have to win in 2020. Have.To.
debbie
@germy:
Yep, I would never visit. I have a very clear memory of that 18-year-old American who was sentenced to be caned.
Major Major Major Major
Rise of Skywalker looks pretty not-great. 58% on rotten tomatoes, woof. And a plot that apparently reads like fanfiction.
NotMax
OT.
Disgusting, despicable, repugnant, [insert much longer stream of invective here].
trollhattan
Michelle’s husband is right. Speaking of Michelle, she’s coming to town next month and they’re booking her in the basketball arena, on account of it’s Michelle.
Baud
Maybe this is Obama’s genteel way of telling Americans how much they fucked up in 2016.
Yarrow
I just want what Finland has. Women in charge. A robust education program teaching people to recognize and combat disinformation and propaganda. The two things are no doubt related.
rikyrah
@Yarrow:
sigh
sigh
sigh
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: It hasn’t been what we could call a great week. The hits just keep on coming.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
This bulletin just came across my twitter feed:
When they preempt college football signing day, you know shiit just got real.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
Yeah, the couple of reviews I’ve seen we’re bad.
OzarkHillbilly
@debbie: Because trump isn’t running in the DEM primary?
chopper
@NotMax:
a good record, but not as good as Group Sex.
dmsilev
Seen this morning: A truck belonging to an electrical construction contractor bearing the motto “Delivering Power Through People”.
Seems unfortunate, unless they’re trying to subtly advertise a side-business in electric-chair installation.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
Plus, how many people actually watch his prepared speeches.
West of the Rockies
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Im not a fan, but Bloomberg has spanked him, too.
Baud
@dmsilev:
A Matrix thing maybe?
Jay
@debbie:
It’s a nice clean city, lots of history, culture, food, ethnicities. Transportation is amazing, clean and cheap. It’s affordable for a Global City, the street food is amazing, and it has more parks and green space than the rest of the World’s Global Cities, combined.
It’s also a Gateway City to the rest of Asia, Australia and New Zealand.
Yes, they have some “draconian laws” but as an example, my Sister in Law’s Dad, grew up on a sampan on the banks of the bay, using nightsoil for fertilizer 5km from a paved road, and ended his working life as a Executive for CocaCola running plants through out Asia. A sleepy colonial outpost was transformed in a generation into a Global City. It’s also one of the few Global Cities in Asia where people don’t pee in elevators.
dmsilev
@Major Major Major Major: One review I read speculated that Disney got scared by the nasty nasty reactions to the last film from some of the more …fanatical fans, and in attempting to anger nobody managed to please nobody.
Yutsano
@Yarrow: Every pregnant woman gets a box full of baby supplies regardless of income. Helsinki is actually making great strides in fixing homelessness that is bothering the rest of the world’s urban centers. Healthcare is (mostly) free and affordable. Finland is doing a few things right.
dmsilev
@Baud: It’s been a while, but wasn’t that “delivering power _from_ people”?
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: too bad Rian Johnson turned it down and it ended back up with Abrams.
Cacti
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Bloomy is also.
His ad listing every school shooting during the Trump presidency is one of the best ones of anybody’s campaign.
Baud
@dmsilev: Prepositions are tricky things.
Major Major Major Major
@dmsilev: yeah it seems like they decided to go for maximal schlocky fanservice and no tough decisions.
Cacti
@Major Major Major Major:
Mickey Mouse still had one turd left to push out in his dump on the original trilogy.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Major Major Major Major:
Are we sure this isn’t a result from the “Ruin Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy raped and murdered my childhood, Rey is a total Mary Sue, the prequels were better, and Star Wars was better under George ‘Jar Jar Binks is a good idea’ Lucas reactionary manbaby crowd” or has Rotten Tomatoes insulated themselves from that kind of ratfucking?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Test
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Yes.
ola azul
@NotMax:
Endeavoring to discern yer meaning, failing. Prolly my bad. Taking it on faith that yer not just making Polonius-style platitudes, so wondering where yer driving?
Major Major Major Major
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): it would be hard to have a review-bombing campaign before the movie came out. These are critics. I’m sure the whiny assholes who hated TLJ will find lots to love (I may have looked up the plot)
Yutsano
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): “Give me a ping Vasily. One ping only please.”
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@dmsilev:
Ah yes, the “Ruin Johnson raped and murdered my childhood!” r/saltierthancrait crowd.
They pissed and moaned about TLJ for two fucking years and harrassed an actress off social media. Oh and called an Asian actress in that movie ugly and fat, but then tried to dodge that with the “character, not actress” bs.
It’s like, what fucking genius thought that was going to fly? It’s a live-action movie you dolts!
WaterGirl
@Baud: I first read that as “propositions are tricky things”, which is also a true statement.
Mary G
Liz Cheney gets four minutes. She’s not a good speaker.
dmsilev
@Major Major Major Major: Basically.
I’ll probably go see it anyway. If nothing else, my niece and nephew want to go, and they’re just about the same age that I was when RotJ came out…
West of the Rockies
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
I wonder, too. There was sooo much white guy whining about a female protagonist, about brown and tan guys, and so forth. All the villains were white guys. Boo-hoo.
?BillinGlendaleCA
Liz Cheney has a really annoying sounding voice.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
Facts are stupid things
Scout211
@trollhattan:
April 1st at Golden 1 center
dmsilev
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Both of the reviews I read made a point of noting that Rose, the character played by said actress, basically vanished from this one, which certainly lends credence to the “give the toxic fanatics what they want so at least they’ll shut up” theory.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): The Law is an ass.
West of the Rockies
@Mary G:
Would it kill her to smile?//
Actually, it probably would. Don’t wanna damage that Cheney perma-sneer.
BobS
Watching the impeachment hearing, I’ve been surprised by the diversity of the Republicans- there’s tall white men & short white men, fat white men & thin white men, white men with hair & white men without hair, old white men & older white men…
I really don’t know what Obama’s talking about.
ola azul
@Baud:
Maybe. If ya, will say, I for one would appreciate if he’d disentangle the message and make it explicit so regular fucking peeps could understand it.
Have seen many who give props to Obama (and many, many imitating others) for not citing, specifically, explicitly, just who the fuck they’re talking about. This, I think, is a mistake.
Unless you know who, specifically, explicitly, is fucking you, it’s damn hard to know how to address it. Too cute by half, imo.
Name, blame n shame. Ever time I hear a Dem talk about their “friend across the aisle”, I wanna puke. If you know someone who wants to destroy every-fucking-thing you hold dear in the name of a transparently, manifestly imbecilic demagogue, well, I got news for you: You ain’t got no friends across the aisle.
I don’t like that reality any better’n anyone else does, but I’ll be goddamn if I’ma pretend it ain’t so. In the words a Orwell:
“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
A true proposition, even.
dmsilev
TPM Liveblog:
ThresherK
@Mary G: And Jeopardy! is supposed to be on.
This is quite a comedown. Is Virginia Foxx still in the House?
NotMax
@BobS
Big oxygen tent.
:)
artem1s
so when is Michelle announcing? Is FEMA ready for the clean up of exploding GOPer heads when she does?
Baud
@ola azul:
Telling the whole truth would mean pissing off many of our potential voters. It’s a dilemma.
hueyplong
@ThresherK: Yes. Mildly good news is that I think she’s 76.
NotMax
@artem1s
Vacuums implode.
;)
ThresherK
My Leftier Than Thou Bernistas on certain social media were calling Obama a neo-liberal last week but couldn’t stop cheering for what Obama said about old white men, and saying it was especially about neo-liberals.
Not your Joe Manchin sorts, mind you, but neeeeooooowe-liberrrralzzzz.
Baud
@ThresherK:
Is Bernie not a old white man in their eyes?
jimmiraybob
If there’s one thing that I’ve learned from listening to the “debate” today, it’s that the Democrats ….and Amash……are guilty as sin of colluding with American Constitutional principles.
Calouste
@artem1s: Remember when Warren said that America was ready for two women on the ticket? And everyone thought she meant Harris?
ThresherK
George Snuffleupagus is on. This is worse. And do we have to listen to those ABC shitheels talk over Rosa DeLauro (CT)?
NotMax
@Baud
Electile dysfunction.
:)
ola azul
@Baud:
Is it? Seriously, is it?
This, I think, is a legitimate question. Would telling the truth be a liability?
I, for one, would like to see an exploration of the merits of this “revolutionary act”, cuz I’m (and may be wrong, admittedly) at the point where I feel as tho telling the whole truth in forceful, direct language is not only good politics but good policy.
BobS
@artem1s: I wish.
I was sitting in a crowded hospital emergency waiting room- probably over 50 people, diverse but mostly white- on a day Mrs. Obama was promoting her book. Very few people were paying attention to the tv until she came on- when she did, virtually everyone watched and listened.
She’d beat Trump going away.
Baud
@ola azul:
Most people are shit, so I vote Yes.
ThresherK
Wait, a Republican is opening his cloaca, and ABC isn’t talking over him?
Kent
@debbie:
Obama is the most measured and concise political speaker we have had in a generation. He knew EXACTLY what he was saying and how it would be taken.
Mary G
Vote already.
Elizabelle
Gag. I tune in, first time in hours, C-Span, and Steve Scalise is shouting and waving his arms like he’s leading an exercise class.
NotMax
Steve Scalise must be wearing a triple layer of asbestos long underwear today.
waysel
@ThresherK: Good to know Bernies not an old white man.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Major Major Major Major:
@West of the Rockies:
@dmsilev:
Well, then I guess Disney tried too hard to pander to the manbaby crowd. Kinda goes to show that the whole “go woke, go broke” argument is total BS. Surprise surprise
Emma
@germy:
Eh, Singaporean here, this article is rather paranoid. The only one that people need to worry about is drugs, but even then, you’re probably not going to be the poor Thai or Vietnamese mule that got caught at the airport and sentenced to hang. You can bring bubblegum, you can litter. As with so many things, we know what the letter of the law is, but you can very easily get away with bending it. I knew someone who smuggled in one of those Costco-sized jars of Dubble Bubble. Plus, for non-Singaporeans, you can always play dumb tourist. The Michael P. Fay incident was a weird aberration that I’m guessing had more to do with setting an example for locals (see, even ang mohs kena cane!)
Anyway, I hope Lee Hsien Long was in the audience for this event!!! The younger PAP politicians too, I hope, in a way they’re even worse, because now they’re just arrogant without having done any of the work associated with building the country up after Independence.
Baud
@Emma:
Cool. BJ should have an international visitors post so we can get a sense of our reach across the globe.
ola azul
@Baud:
Well, there you go.
This is like a bull-session on fate vs. free will. Nature vs. nurture. Mighty Mouse vs. Superman.
fwiw, I don’t think most peeps is shit, so I innately wanna appeal to their better angels. But will say: yer Hobbsian view of the shit-storm that is humankind kinda, well, surprised me.
(Less I got that wrong; don’t wanna unfairly impugn you. Gonna eat din now; if I got sumpin to answer for, lemme know, be back inna piece.)
gene108
@Major Major Major Major:
Going to see it on Saturday, but I am not holding much hope for it.
Abrams probably had an idea what he wanted to do with the series. Rian Johnson shat all over it.
Not sure how Abrams will pick up the pieces. But I don’t think he’s good enough to put it back together.
Wish there was a way to go back in time and redo these episodes.
Kent
Hey, what’s with today’s Obamacare court ruling? Is this significant or was it expected?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/health/obamacare-mandate.html
raven
@ola azul: Watch yer topknot. . .
Mike in NC
Stopped by Costco today for holiday supplies. They had exactly one copy of the book “written” by Fat Bastard’s #1 Loser Son. A “best seller” because Republicans bought thousands of copies to hand out to the cultists. Sarah Palin syndrome all over again.
Baud
@ola azul:
Nope. I’m a sociopath. Have said so many times over many years.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
How?
Emma
@Jay: “affordable” hahahahaha *cry* https://www.iproperty.com.sg/property/bedok/bedok/sale-13501211/
This is in the sleepy, boring, non-touristy part of Singapore.
Emma
@Baud:
Well, I say Singaporean, but I’ve been in the US since I was 8, would love to have dual citizenship if the freaking SG government wasn’t paranoid about brain drain (which is happening anyway)
Baud
@Emma:
Real estate agents look the same wherever you go.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: “It’s not a lie, it’s commercial real estate.”
Major Major Major Major
@gene108:
Abrams’s ideas were, as we are seeing, bad. Also, it’s my understanding that Johnson didn’t exactly shatter the understood outline, he just focused the work differently. Ironically, the perils of fandom take a central place…
MisterForkbeard
@Major Major Major Major: The critiques make it sound like a JJ Abrams movie.
Decent/good action sequences and set pieces, rushes constantly from one place to another, and fails to be introspective or inform in any way.
Basically the same formula he used for Star Trek and TFA, but it doesnt work when closing out a trilogy.
Emma
@Baud:
Yes, but the main point that I should have been clearer about is that this is government-built public housing, not some private developer building swanky condos.
raven
Is Hoyer last?
Major Major Major Major
@MisterForkbeard: the critiques make it sound like a bad Abrams movie to me. Downright final-third-of-Lost style. He can do better than 58% for crying out loud.
Doug R
@gene108:
JJ was up to his usual Mystery Box! tricks and Rian Johnson made sure to toss them all away.
It’s not like these movies aren’t carefully supervised and produced to within an inch of their lives-Disney chickened out and made at least one of their SIX filmed endings the vanilla fan favorite, from what I hear.
Sigh.
Well we’ve Harley Quinn in Birds Of Prey in February.
The new Bond that the incels are shitting all over, so maybe it’ll be good again comes out April 2.
Wonder Woman 1984 is finally out June 5.
And Tom Cruise comes back in Top Gun 2: Maverick later in June-something to be said for putting actors in real airplanes.
Plus the new Ghostbusters should be out later this summer-looks like it’s concentrating on kids but Paul Rudd and almost all the surviving original cast will be in it.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
They’re a bunch of sanctimonious morons. Reason and logic seldom enter into their cognitions with politics.
Just today on tumblr, I came across some stupid fucking post that, while acknowledging that Republicans lie to rural voters, argues that the Dems lack some vision or something, are lazy, their policies have not helped rural America and just don’t. try. hard. enough. to reach out to rural voters and “the working class”.
Like the ACA and Medicaid expansion was nothing. Oh and don’t criticize the Trumpers (most of whom are very well-off) because that makes you an awful classist, mirroring Trumpers’ reaction to the homeless.
I’m not kidding and I wish I was.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: I believe so.
gene108
@Major Major Major Major:
Rian Johnson fucked up the series, with Ep. 8.
He had serious contempt for the Star Wars audience. It’s not the women in charge of things that’s my issue.
It’s Luke giving up and turning into a bitter old man.
It’s every hero from Episodes 4-6 becoming some sort of failure. Luke failed as a teacher, and became a hermit. Leia failed as a mother, and Senator. Han failed as a husband and father.
The New Republic, which we all were told was going to good, turned out to be fucked up and useless in a generation.
The Empire was reborn, stronger, as the First Order.
Seriously, what’s the point of being happy at the end of Episode 6, knowing how fucked up their future is going to be?
Is it so damn fucking hard for filmmakers to let the audience have its heroes, as heroes? I’m not watching Star Wars movies to get a deeper understanding of the human condition.
Fuck Rian Johnson. He turned the series into a hot mess in one movie.
MisterForkbeard
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I think regardless of your opinion of TLJ, that was probably not where anyone expected the movie to go.
At the end of the movie, the Resistance is mostly gone, Rey’s less ‘special’, Luke is gone after being super grumpy and something like 3 whole days have passed since TFA.
Most everyone expected it to pull an Empire and at least be a couple of years later with some offscreen character growth and so on.
Omnes Omnibus
@Doug R:
Why?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Major Major Major Major:
BTW, I saw your email from a few days ago about the OpenAI thing. It’s probably for the best I don’t mess with it. Way too confusing.
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Our society makes it easy to hate Democrats. People of all ideologies seek to gain status by looking down on us.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
This seems to be gaining currency
MisterForkbeard
@Major Major Major Major: Honestly, all of his movies seem like this to me. TFA was fun but I left that theater feeling very deflated.
I don’t know – JJ sets up mysteries well (and new series) but sucks at real storytelling. He can’t stick landings. This sound like more of his usual to me.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Omnes Omnibus:
Because a black woman is going to be the next 007, according to Vice
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
A woman will be named James Bond?
MisterForkbeard
@gene108: I think most of that OT “failure” stuff comes from JJ and TFA, though. Even Luke’s behavior was telegraphed somewhat, though they could have gotten away with a “and I hid away waiting for the next Jedi to find me” or something.
Omnes Omnibus
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Hmmm…. That is one way to piss off Idris Elba fans.
BobS
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Isn’t Idris Elba the next Bond?
gene108
@Doug R:
And how did Johnson throwing away the Mystery Box help things?
Honestly, makes no damn sense why they let Johnson do what he did.
The First Order lost Star Killer Base, but was on the Resistance, within a day of the lost. You figure that’d have been a pretty big loss in personnel, ships, etc. But nope, it was just a scratch.
Really screwed up whatever internal consistency the third trilogy was supposed to have.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@MisterForkbeard:
I admit I haven’t watched the new Star Wars movies. I just know the reactions from reactionaries. Gene’s opinions above are perfectly valid
West of the Rockies
@MisterForkbeard:
I greatly enjoyed Super 8.
Major Major Major Major
@gene108: not only did Rian Johnson ruin TLJ, he somehow ruined everything that happens after too? You sound like the Times talking about a Democrat.
Bex
@Yarrow: Young women.
Major Major Major Major
@MisterForkbeard: if Damon fucking Lindelof can evolve from Lost/Prometheus to Watchmen, surely Abrams should have picked up a trick or two in the last, what, fifteen years?
Doug R
@Omnes Omnibus:
They are really freaking out over the new 007 who is a black woman.
The point of the Fleming novels is 007 is just a designation, when James retired, they would give his number to someone soon enough.
Also Bond was an outsider, the books made him Welsh/French, but the movies with his Scottish/French background worked too.
Bond was also supposed to be kind of bland and average looking, one reason he didn’t do disguises-they generally don’t work.
A black woman kind of fits those parameters these days, she can get into places a man can’t-the best parts of the Black Widow character in the Marvel movies touch on this.
I hope whoever is bankrolling the Bond movies doesn’t chicken out on this.
Major Major Major Major
@Doug R: Craig is still billed as Bond though. The black lady 007 is expected to die a horrible death or otherwise be sidelined early. Last I read at least.
Omnes Omnibus
@Doug R: Thanks. But I must say that I read the Bond novel the first time when I was about 10, so I am a bit familiar with the oeuvre.
gene108
@MisterForkbeard:
Think Luke could’ve been more positive. Luke could’ve kept training force users, after the failure with Ben, if not as adherents to the Jedi Order, but as “space monks” (?) spreading pease, tolerance, & balance throughout the galaxy.
Don’t know, but TLJ broke whatever was in TFA’s Mystery Box. After TFA, I was excited to see TLJ. To see what mysteries would be out of the Box and resolved.
After TLJ, I have little hope any coherence can be restored to this trilogy, despite the best efforts of Disney’s writers to put it back together again.
I expect TRoSW to be loud, with lots of explosions, and not much less. Basically a low-rent Michael Bay movie.
Emma
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) Star Wars is the only franchise nobody loves but can’t stop watching: 9 billion dollars worldwide and counting.
Feathers
@Major Major Major Major: Oh, well, I already have my tickets for the 6pm show tomorrow at the local cinema. It’s right on my block, built in the 1920’s* and used to have vaudeville acts as well as movies. I’ve started seeing all the superhero movies opening night because it is full of 12 years being allowed to go to a movie ON A SCHOOL NIGHT!!! So much fun, even if the movie is disappointing.
I’m old enough that I saw the original in 70mm on a Cinerama screen. (All hail the Uptown!) Also old enough that the schoolyard talk was how much Empire sucked and was a total disappointment. And Ewoks? Seriously. So I consider myself to have properly managed expectations.
Really liked TFA. Loved TLJ. On this trilogy, they really haven’t been able to thread the needle of creating films which please both the audiences who only see the theatrical titles and the fanbois who have seen and memorized everything.
If you want something to watch while waiting, really recommend the latest Movies With Mikey: Too Many Thoughts About Star Wars. Talks about the history of the series, and the fandom, and how, whatever you think of the movies Kathleen Kennedy is one of the most seasoned veteran producers in the business and earned Disney its $4 billion investment back in six years. Anyway, all of his videos are worth watching.
*Really weird to have to put the 19 in there.
WaterGirl
@gene108: Is that English? So many acronyms, but I guess you’re probably speaking to an audience that would know all of them?
Major Major Major Major
@Feathers: oh, don’t worry, this one has Ewoks too
MisterForkbeard
@Major Major Major Major: Nah. he keeps getting rewarded for making the same mistakes, so if course he’ll keep making them.
Jinchi
Nobody doubts that Obama was including Trump, Sanders and Bloomberg in his statement.
But Lotsa folk went there because Biden is the one running on Obama’s legacy.