Stephanie Grisham, asked on ABC about the president’s comments last night suggesting the late Rep. John Dingell was in hell, said Trump is a “counter-puncher” who is “under attack.”https://t.co/xcPXBnn9dk
— Rebecca Ballhaus (@rebeccaballhaus) December 19, 2019
Because Dingell earned everything Trump wants — especially the love and praise of those around him.
John Dingell followed his father into Congress, taking John Sr.’s seat via special election in 1955. The (longest-serving) Dean of the House spent the following 59 years fighting for democratic (and Democratic) causes:
… During his time in Congress in addition to protecting the automobile industry important to his district, Dingell was instrumental in passage of the Medicare Act, the Water Quality Act of 1965, Clean Water Act of 1972, the Endangered Species Act of 1973, the Clean Air Act of 1990, and the Affordable Care Act, among others. He was most proud of his work on the Civil Rights Act of 1964…
Dingell was generally classified as a moderately liberal member of the Democratic Party and throughout his career he was a leading Congressional supporter of organized labor, social welfare measures and traditional progressive policies. At the beginning of every Congress, Dingell introduced a bill providing for a national health insurance system, the same bill that his father proposed while he was in Congress…
And he was always popular with his voters (even though he made fun of the ‘war on Xmas‘ on the floor of the House):
… He won a full term in 1956 and was reelected 29 times, including runs in 1988 and 2006 with no Republican opponent. Dingell received less than 62% of the vote on only two occasions… Dingell always won re-election by double-digit margins, although the increasing conservatism of the white suburbs of Detroit since the 1970s led to several serious Republican challenges in the 1990s…
.@RepDebDingell is twice the man @realDonaldTrump will ever be. https://t.co/YCxYeUWDet
— Rashida Tlaib (@RashidaTlaib) December 19, 2019
When Dingell finally gave up his seat, he was replaced by his (27 years younger) wife, “the first non-widowed woman to immediately succeed her husband in Congress.”
Here’s her interview, for the receipts: https://t.co/SorrrkfzwV
— Digital Lizzy (@lizzyemcee) December 19, 2019
And despite his years, Dingell “earned over 250,000 [Twitter] followers for his witty and sarcastic posts attacking Republicans, particularly Donald Trump. He earned the nickname “the Dean of Twitter”…”
Even though he’s gone there’s still a good chance Mr Dingell will have the last word. https://t.co/suCfotFY4S
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) December 19, 2019
mrmoshpotato
Because Dump is a sack of shit who knows he’s a loser, illegitimate, bastard president.
debbie
Oh, fuck Steph. We’re counterpunchers too!
Bobby Thomson
Because even after death, John Dingell is more productive.
TomatoQueen
Because he is a complete and utter shitstain, not worthy of a package of flushable wipes?
MJS
Trump is such an absolute shit-weasel. And I love the “he’s a counter-puncher” nonsense. I first heard that excuse for his behavior from the 3rd Mrs. Trump, who probably meant it literally.
Jerzy Russian
Christ, what an asshole! (I am referring to the current White House occupant and his press secretary).
dmsilev
Can anyone imagine Melania standing in the rain greeting people at Trump’s funeral for 6 minutes, let alone 6 hours?
debbie
@mrmoshpotato:
With the breathiness of his delivery of that remark, Trump’s turning toward the pervy side.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Just imagining the huffing rage as he stares at Tlaib’s tweet for, I’m gonna guess, two full minutes
SiubhanDuinne
Love you, Anne Laurie, but “Democrate”?
Martin
Really brave move counterpunching someone who’s dead.
Anne Laurie
@SiubhanDuinne: Sigh. Why did my godsdamned spellchecker not flag that, even when it won’t stop telling me ‘grift’ isn’t a legitimate word?
Kent
Wait…what?
Trump lied about something or someone?
Amir Khalid
Trump will always show less class than anyone he engages with. With the Dingells that’s an especially huge gap.
Omnes Omnibus
@Anne Laurie: Spellcheck is a Republican?
SiubhanDuinne
@MJS:
That’s had me baffled all day. The implication is that either Debbie Dingell or zombie John Dingell punched first, but I’m not aware of any such thing. Seems completely gratuitous to me.
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
Kellyanne Conway has used that word since the beginning of the administration. Jeez, they even plagiarize their own!
dmsilev
@SiubhanDuinne: She voted in favor of impeaching him.
Seriously, I think that’s what triggered this.
topclimber
@SiubhanDuinne: He counter punched against her impeachment vote. His fists of fury have 200+ Dems to go.
It’s OK to counter punch. It’s the hitting below the belt that is repulsive, yet so very much Trump’s go to move.
SiubhanDuinne
@debbie:
Oh yes, I remember the “counterpunching” thing from Kellyanne, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and Melania. They were all delusional.
Baud
@dmsilev:
Yeah, but Trump betrayed her country first.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@topclimber:
Also punching down. He never knowingly punches up. He might do it by accident because he doesn’t know “up” when he sees I t.
coin operated
OT: Don’t have ability to link the tweet here at work, but Christianity Today just called for Trump to be removed from office.
Amir Khalid
@dmsilev:
I imagine Melania would be too busy celebrating to greet The Donald’s mourners, of whom there would not be many — a minute’s work to greet, at most.
mrmoshpotato
@SiubhanDuinne: John Dingell is living rent free in Dump’s head punching his pea brain.
SiubhanDuinne
@topclimber:
@dmsilev:
And how pafuckingthetic is that?
Karen
@coin operated: Who will be lambasted since all Christians worship Trump.
SFAW
Although I don’t miss Jethrene, Grisham has certainly surpassed her for overall vileness.
And as far as being a “counter puncher”: if that candy-ass mofo had insulted Mrs. Dingell while John was still alive, and healthy, I’m pretty sure his 90-year-old self would pummel the crap out of the Crybaby-in-Chief. Literally, as Steve in the WTFKW would say.
topclimber
@SiubhanDuinne: Crotch grabber, crotch puncher–sensing a pattern here.
Yutsano
@SiubhanDuinne: There is nothing a bully loves more than someone (he thinks) can’t punch back.
Roger Moore
@SiubhanDuinne:
Debbie Dingell is eternally in Trump’s debt because he was minimally decent after John’s death. Voting to impeach was thus a terrible attack on her benefactor, and he has every right to counter attack. At least that’s how I understand the argument.
Amir Khalid
@topclimber:
I don’t remember Bill Clinton “counterpunching” against the House majority that voted to impeach him. But then again, I don’t remember Bill ever being anywhere near that petty.
Roger Moore
@Amir Khalid:
The line of people waiting to defile his grave, OTOH, would be substantial.
SFAW
@Karen:
The Googly tells me that Christianity Today was founded by Billy Graham. One hopes that Franklin Shitweasel Graham blows a gasket from this.
However, the editorial (or whatever it is) writer(s) also felt compelled to “both sides” it:
Except for the myriad lies, CT makes some interesting points in that paragraph. Well, not really.
Roger Moore
@mrmoshpotato:
So you’re saying he was sent to Hell when he died.
prostratedragon
@Amir Khalid: But consider all the factcheckers
Mike in NC
Even the weasel Chris Cillizza thought this was a new low from Fat Bastard, bragging (and lying, of course) about how he helped Dingell’s widow.
trollhattan
Whose job was it to explain to Trump who John Dingell was?
danielx
He is only going to get more deranged from here. Hard to imagine how he could become even more of a prick with ears, but….
Jeffro
@mrmoshpotato: John Dingell is living rent free in Dump’s head punching his pea brain.
Along with John McCain, Elijah Cummings, his terror of being found out, the extremely long list of Obama’s actual accomplishments & virtues, and Fred trumpov’s many tirades.
No wonder he rambles…he’s always arguing with a half dozen other people
debbie
@Amir Khalid:
Because he didn’t. As angry as he was, Clinton knew he had to act presidential. This ?? He’d never care about that or the institution of the presidency.
topclimber
@Roger Moore: Good one!
lollipopguild
@Roger Moore: trump’s grave will have to be behind locked gates to prevent people from peeing/crapping on it.
Frankensteinbeck
@SFAW:
You can tell – hoo boy, can you tell – that Christianity Today REALLY REALLY did not want to side with Democrats against Republicans on anything. They held Bill Clinton to a ludicrous standard, and went ‘one more chance’ for years with Trump doing much worse. They lowered the bar to the ground for him, and he could not clear it.
Elizabelle
@dmsilev:
It’s her fantasy. Remember, Melania dressed as widow to be when the Trump family met the Pope, who was none too taken with The Donald. As one meme put it, dress for the job you want!
Gizmodo with some Trumps as horror figures. (And this was 2 years ago.)
Baud
@lollipopguild:
Red Square is pretty well patrolled.
J R in WV
@debbie:
So… Where do you guys get those emoji thingies?
Also, Weathergirl, I’m back to the text only HTML code window to input a comment, again.
Jeffro
@coin operated: I just saw that (glad I looked upthread for once!)
Whoa…christians…were you aware that trumpov might not be the second coming?? Who could have imagined?
Frankensteinbeck
@lollipopguild:
I sincerely believe this is true. Trump is hated like no president I can remember. The hate Republicans feel for Obama is nothing compared to this.
mrmoshpotato
@Roger Moore: LOL Well played.
Baud
@Frankensteinbeck: Hate is more satisfying when it’s based on something real.
Ladyraxterinok
@MJS: Begin to wonder if they mean Trump in his rages literally punches holes in nearest available counters.
Interesting visual
danielx
@Baud:
Am tolerably certain Vlad would offer a space – after all, Trump has done more to advance Russian foreign policy goals than, well, anyone.
mrmoshpotato
@lollipopguild: That won’t stop people if it’s anything like the sections of his stupid fucking wall.
Amir Khalid
@J R in WV:
When I have occasion to use an emoji, I just cut and paste them from this website.
SFAW
@Frankensteinbeck:
Of course, the RWMFs hate(d) Obama because of who he was/is — an intelligent black man — before he did anything, and then mis-characterized almost everything he did, in order to make his actions fit into their sick, deranged narratives.
The Traitor-in-Chief, on the other hand, is hated because of what he has done. That he is a disgusting, vile shitweasel merely incites disgust, not hate.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Wow. Christianity Today just joined the Deep State
Amir Khalid
@Jeffro:
Trump-enthusiast “Christians”, as pointed out by many here, are not actually that; they are Deplorables who see him as one of their own.
The Dangerman
Because Trump hates every single person that doesn’t help him in his life’s only goals (make more money, spend more time with Ivanka).
Captain C
@dmsilev: She’ll be at the estate lawyer’s office, wondering why there’s no money left for her to inherit.
Citizen_X
They always say that after Trump sucker-punches some unsuspecting person.
Bex
@dmsilev: Six minutes in the rain? That would ruin the Manolos. No way.
lamh36
speaking of “proud to be a Democrat”…I never get tired of PBO with babies…LOL
Oh and apparently PBO was golfing in Hawaii while Chump was being impeached (and I gotta say, looking healthy and happy as usual)
Of course the haters are hating in response to the NYPost tweet…lol. They BIG MAD… Seethe haters…Seethe!
Yarrow
@dmsilev:
Yes, because it’s probably in her contract that she has to publicly grieve no matter the weather. Also, she’ll want the visuals of the grieving widow to be on the cover of every paper so she’ll do it for that. And if it’s in the rain it ups the sympathy factor.
I’d say she’d do 15 minutes. It’s just long enough that she’ll get max sympathy but not so long it would actually mean anything.
Mary G
@J R in WV: I use Chrome Version 79.0.3945.88 and if I right click in a text box the first option is emojis. You can type a word then to find an emoji for it.
Jeffro
@Amir Khalid: sorry, I should have used air quotes
lamh36
Jeffro
@dmsilev: the rain of recycled Bud Light I’m going to let loose on the Mango Menace’s final resting place might just go past the six-minute mark.
I think that counts as dedication! Take that Melania!
Baud
@lamh36:
Haha!
MomSense
@SiubhanDuinne:
Pertains to the dog owning segment of the party.
Jeffro
@lamh36: “AGREE TO WHATEVER THEY WANT, I WANT MY ‘PERFECT’ AQUITTAL TOMORROW, YOU HEAR ME McCONNELL?”
lol
Nancy Smash is now Nancy Chess Prodigy. Gives ‘Deep Blue’ a whole new meaning
Yarrow
@J R in WV:
Mary G‘s tip only works under the Text tab, not the Visual Tab.
Baud
Bloomberg ad, followed by Steyer ad.
r€nato
@Martin: John McCain endorses your comment.
Jeffro
@Yarrow: Nickel bet that she gets smashed at the post-funeral ‘reception’ and does her Inauguration “smiling to trumpov’s face/frowny face as soon as he turns his back” routine to uproarious applause.
She’s a bad person but I’d give her a little slack for that.
r€nato
@lamh36: why they mad? I keep hearing from the cult that impeachment is a gift to Trump that will ensure his re-election…
Yarrow
@Jeffro: Once she finds out there’s no money it’ll be a frowny face and frowny face routine.
SiubhanDuinne
Anybody else planning to watch the Dem debate tonight? I admit I’m something of a sucker for debates (either party), Congressional hearings, town halls, and election coverage (even primaries and run-offs). But I know a lot of people who feel they can’t subject themselves, for whatever reasons. Anyhow, I’m settling in for the evening. You?
zhena gogolia
@Amir Khalid:
Ooh, let me try it!
?How do you make it bigger?
Jeffro
@Yarrow: Easy book deal and speaking tour…this is America after all/unfortunately.
She could easily go on the wing nut welfare circuit, sit in occasionally for Meghan McCain on The View, be Jeannie Pirro’s straight man (woman), etc. A whole pathetic world of possibilities awaits, Melania!
zhena gogolia
?? !
Bill Arnold
@Frankensteinbeck:
I have heard more people say (verbally) out loud that they wanted D.J. Trump dead than every other political figure, foreign or domestic, since oh 1980 or so, combined. Greater than 50% of them women, FWIW. Some of them otherwise pacifists.
(I’ve had to suppress such sentiments personally since spring 2017. He makes it take constant discipline, sigh.)
Jim, Foolish Literalist
when is Moscow Mitchell gonna learn you can’t get an adderal-addled nutcase to stick to a script?
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne:
Probably. Interested because of current events and fewer candidates.
JPL
@Amir Khalid: Thanks. It’s only recently that we can say merry christmas here. ?
MomSense
@trollhattan:
It doesn’t matter if he’s briefed or not. His frontal lobe is impaired. My hunch is that he has dementia. Hard to say what stage he is in because we have so little exposure to him. From the reporting we have from staff, his cognition, executive function, and memory are significantly impaired.
Probably some effects of vascular disease in the mix, too.
Jeffro
@SiubhanDuinne: I’m not bothering to watch any more Dem debates. Just want to get a nominee and pound on the GOP all year long, frankly.
lamh36
@SiubhanDuinne: just gonna cut and paste my FB answer here. I know it’s lazy but…shrug. :-D
Not watching the debate tonight. I’ve actually resolved most of my anger, but I still had some residuals, that wont’ allow me to fairly view this debate…so nah…I’m watching Cartoon network…LOL
chris
@Mary G: Operating system? I don’t get emojis in Chrome but Google often shortchanges us Linux weirdos. I will send an allcaps email forthwith!
Baud
@MomSense:
He should plead not guilty by reason of insanity!
Dorothy A. Winsor
@lamh36:
Living his best life.
Keith P
@Bill Arnold:
It’s my sincere hope that he either drops dead of a stroke on live TV, like that baseball umpire several years back, or he drops dead on the toilet taking a shit, and some WH cleaning lady leaks a photo of him on the floor with is pants around his ankles and shit stains down his legs.
zhena gogolia
@Jeffro:
Now that Harris is out I have no interest. Inspector Morse for us this evening. After I make my husband watch Schiff’s speeches from yesterday.
Yarrow
@Jeffro: Maybe. There’s no there there with her. I mean, sure, she can “write” a book and it could even be a “bestseller” if the wingnut orgs buy enough of it. But after Trump dies there’s going to be a feeding frenzy for the party, his money, whatever is left of the business.
His kids will all think they’re his heir apparent–at least Jr and Ivanka will. Melania will probably want to position Barron to get some of that action. It’s going to be ugly and who knows how it’s going to play out or whether any of the Trumps will be in favor or not.
Bill Arnold
@Ladyraxterinok:
Unlikely. The closeups of DJT “fists” that I’ve looked at suggest that he would not succeed, and probably would not be able to hold a sharpie for a few months.
Baud
@lamh36:
Wait, the debate isn’t on Cartoon Network?
Jeffro
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: like I said in #71, LOL
“Mr Innocent” is chomping at the bit. Who could have imagined? Nancy Chess Prodigy, that’s who.
Jeffro
@zhena gogolia: Schiff’s and I hear that Steny Hoyer’s was good…have to go look that one up, too.
Inspirational stuff from these Dems. Fighting spirit. It’s great to see it and I hope they and we keep it up all the way. =)
Mary G
I’m going to try, but if they get in a food fight about M4A, I’ll probably switch to streaming The Expanse on Amazon Prime.
NotMax
Wonder if Dolt 45 noticed that the trees in Michigan “are the right height?”
//
Baud
Debate thread up.
WaterGirl
@J R in WV: I’m gonna have to think about change my nym to WeatherGirl. :-)
That is not the news I wanted, but I still appreciate the update!
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Recent comments broken.
Yarrow
@Jeffro: I’m done with the debates too. Forgot it was on. Bring me a half reasonable nominee and beat up on Trump over and over again. All I care about at this point as far as the presidential race goes.
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: I am.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I see that. Thanks for the heads up.
edit: Reported, with a screen capture.
Jeffro
@Yarrow:
Decent chance that once it’s all out there – the rampant money laundering and tax fraud, his fake billionaire status, all of his direction-taking from Putin, his life-long sexual predation – the GOP will do the easy thing and revile him & the whole clan just like the rest of us.
They’ll be pretending, but I’ll take it and never say a word…if and only if they join the Dems in retroactively declaring that his 2016 ‘win’ was invalid as the result of hostile enemy action and make Hillz our 45th president, even if it is well after the fact and only for the history books.
(sorry Hillz, it’s the best we can do at this point!)
Also, Santa, I really want a pony this year…
Roger Moore
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I sincerely expect Moscow Mitch to do whatever he sees fit and to tell Trump to pound sand.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Jeffro: @Yarrow:
My money’s on Melania taking Barron and whatever was negotiated in the post-election addendum to prenup and heading back to Slovenia
J R in WV
@WaterGirl:
Oops! Well, call me dumbass and send me home! Sorry, just thinking about fixing dinner, lost all connection to reality!
Now I’ve got Visual and Text tabs, so hurray! Back arrow isn’t really working, still. I got some hand made chocolate truffles this afternoon, really good. Swiss chocolatier immigrated to WV to make chocolates…OMG good!
Had fresh salmon for dinner, with buttered cauliflower, and really champagne to celebrate Impeachment!
columbusqueen
@Jeffro: Or we could deport her sorry ass back to shithole Slovenia along with her parents. I’m sure there will enough $$ to live the luxe life there.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Dillinger is dead and the dead can’t fight back.
Anne Laurie
Melania didn’t like Slovenia when she lived there. My personal guess is that she’s only hanging on right now because she’s waiting for Barron to turn 18, for fear of what his older half-sibs might try if the old man dies before that date. Once Trump dies, or is imprisoned for a sufficiently long period, I’m betting Melania quietly decamps to some rich-person enclave where she never has to hear the name ‘Trump’ again — she doesn’t seem any fonder of his rich Palm Beach sychophants than she is of the noisy rubes at the rallies. And she can’t go back to NYC, at least not unless Princess Ivanka & the Fortunate Son-in-Law are ensconced elsewhere, even assuming ‘real’ rich-person NYC would be sufficiently tolerant not to grief her.
columbusqueen
@Anne Laurie: Yeah, I don’t think Manhattan will be a great place for anyone named Trump in the future. Is it too much to hope a mob of New Yorkers take Trump Tower apart?
debbie
@J R in WV:
I’m on a Mac laptop, so I hold down the control key and click. A submenu then pops up.