Christ on a crumpet:
If the Iranian regime is smart, they’ll just stand by while Trump transitions the U.S. to pariah-state status, paving the way for Iran to fully rejoin the family of nations.
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mrmoshpotato
What? No pig face or shit emoji?
debbie
Well, there’s the next Article of Impeachment: War Crimes.
feebog
Ten months to Election Day. Will we make it before he starts WWIII?
mrmoshpotato
@debbie: Probably one of the next articles.
Have Susan and Jill enlisted yet?
Baud
For some reason, most nations are not so smart. Probably an XY chromosome thing.
Mike in NC
I avoid reading Fat Bastard’s demented tweets, but do enjoy the “Gollum J Trump” parody account that somebody has created, simply because it better reflects his true mental state. Sad!
Mary G
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Mary G:
Tom Nichols could probably get the cell numbers of, if not the Senators themselves, top aides to people like Romney, Alexander and Murkowski. If the neverTrumpers are sincere, they could do in R Senators’ what Jane Fonda and Ted Danson are doing for the climate on the Capitol steps.
MattF
Trump has made it clear, over and over again, that he thinks war crimes (and war criminals) are just ducky. That’s where we are.
dmsilev
Let me guess. He chose fifty two because he spent most of today playing Solitaire on his phone.
Mary G
Stop the planet. I want to get off:
Baud
Mike in NC
OK, who was the genius who came up with selecting 52 targets in Iran? My guess is either Miller or Ivanka. It’s both childish and petty, like Fat Bastard himself, but will draw cheers at his rallies.
Amir Khalid
@Mary G:
Trump brags that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and not suffer any loss of popularity. He probably thinks that nothing he does can be a crime.
dmsilev
More seriously, what does this do to the people in our military who might be ordered to make such a strike? He’ll of a moral dilemma that Trump is forcing onto people.
schrodingers_cat
BJP is using Google (YouTube) and Twitter and Facebook (WhatsApp) to spread rumors, and eliminationist Nazi-like rhetoric, hate speech against Muslims. Can they be sued or in any way held responsible. Because I think the BJP is determined to dig their heels in over the CAA-NRC issue and is unwilling to move an inch.
What would be a legal strategy to close down the prominent handles disseminating hate speech? Can they be sued in the United States?
ETA: I have reported and handles, got some banned but this is not enough.
Kay
When do the grownups intervene and supervise the low quality hires? What would it take?
Mike in NC
@MattF: He’s also a big fan of pointless police brutality, as a number of past statements and speeches have clearly indicated (remember the infamous “don’t be afraid to rough them up” shit).
patrick II
I hate to acknowledge it, but the “52” works for all of those old foxbots who don’t remember much about the Iranian hostage-taking but the grudge.
Jeffro
Man, those tweets practically REEK of orange urine, don’t they?
Shalimar
@Mary G: The Hitler “Downfall” scene has never been more appropriate.
sukabi
@Mary G: having committed all other crimes the only thing left for drumpf are war crimes.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
The ghost of George Romney coming as the clock strikes midnight to tell his son, “Boy, go take your testicles and my good name back from that orange piece of trash”?
phein60
@Mary G: Hate to say it, but who will care? It’s not like it will be the first time the US has committed war crimes in living memory.
James E Powell
War crimes have been the official policy of the Republican policy since the Bush/Cheney Junta.
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G:
GLOBAL WINDSTORM
Q. What would happen if the Earth and all terrestrial objects suddenly stopped spinning, but the atmosphere retained its velocity?
-Andrew Brown
A. NEARLY EVERYONE WOULD DIE.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@patrick II: I hate Matt Stoller, but broken clocks and all:
I used to say in David Broder’s world, it’s always a Nixon-less 1973
Omnes Omnibus
@phein60: I will care. Will you?
Mo MacArbie
Forget the election. How do we go about removing Trump bodily from the White House, like, now?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
See also: The apocryphal story he loves about the British officer who ordered bullets dipped in pig’s blood for an execution of Muslim prisoners. His racism is ever present.
phein60
@Omnes Omnibus: I always have, since LBJ. But those of us who care about what America is are overridden by the passions of the moment, the “realists” like Jennifer Rubin, the imperatives of Empire.
zhena gogolia
Just out of curiosity I went to Mitt Romney’s twitter to see what he has to say about the incendiary situation the IMPOTUS has created. I’m not getting the “text” tab here so I’ll try to put it in another comment.
raven
@phein60: @phein60: Fuck LBJ.
zhena gogolia
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
Sounds like the tree was the right height!
zhena gogolia
Amir Khalid
@zhena gogolia:
Sigh. I wish I could say I was surprised.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
There is not word one about the Iran situation on his twitter.
zhena gogolia
Okay, this is kind of fun. I tried another great statesperson, Susan Collins.
mrmoshpotato
@sukabi: Haven’t done this one in a bit – “Alexa! Commit all the crimes!”
hitchhiker
@Amir Khalid:
The man would still be dead, though! He can blow up our whole country, and his supporters will still love him, but who cares? Our country will still be blown up.
His cult may not be not shrinking, but the opposition is growing and becoming more determined every day.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I always hate the cloying email fund-raisers purporting to be from the candidate’s kids or pets. It creeped me out a little when the Obama campaign would ask me to “sign Barack’s birthday card!”.
But this, this is some next-level, Court of the Mad King, don’t throw me through sky-door, Master! shit
The “Master” in question being the MAGAts whose votes he needs, not necessarily The Beast or Gummo
zhena gogolia
Okay, I’ll stop after this one. As we tremble while an insane demented old fart destabilizes the world, here’s what Lisa Murkowski has to say:
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
It’s not like he’s been given some great responsibility to speak out on public concerns.
FelonyGovt
Of course, we’ve heard nothing further about impeachment, Ukraine, Deutsche Bank, etc. in days, so his batshit actions have caused the distraction he wanted.
zhena gogolia
By contrast, latest tweet from Swalwell
raven
Wesley Clark doesn’t think it’s going to work but thinks it’s probably a good idea.
zhena gogolia
@FelonyGovt:
It’s maddening!
zhena gogolia
@raven:
What does that mean?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@raven: threatening to bomb cultural sites?
Immanentize
@FelonyGovt: A media distraction only. Those other things are real.
Baud
@raven:
Bombing or the threat of bombing?
Another Scott
It’s what he does. Little rocket man, Fire and Fury (August 8, 2017), and all the rest.
If past is prologue, then let’s see, first meeting June 12, 2018, then Donnie is expecting to meet the Supreme Leader around very early November 2020. He’ll try to move it up before Election Day for maximum effect.
It’s what he does.
(groucho-roll-eyes.gif)
Seriously, everyone knows he blusters and throws tantrums. And lashes out. But his bluster is almost always much, much worse than his actions. Somehow I don’t think that Iran’s leadership is worried.
My $0.02.
Cheers,
Scott.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
The Aristocrats!
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
I went to Clark’s twitter and he’s pretty severely critical of what’s been happening, so I don’t understand what raven’s referring to.
James E Powell
@hitchhiker:
His support has actually ticked up a bit according to the poll averages at 538. I don’t think we ought to concern ourselves with hsi supporters. We need to commit to support the D no matter who it is, make sure our people can vote, then make sure they do vote.
Gin & Tonic
I’m guessing in about 14 years my grand-daughter will be a senior in High School, in a position to take AP US History (if Il Donaldo hasn’t blown up the world.) I wonder how this time will be presented in the curriculum.
mrmoshpotato
@Amir Khalid: Haha. No, Mittens isn’t malfunctioning. That’s how he was programmed to errr…mimic human life.
hitchhiker
@FelonyGovt:
To be fair, though, we’re in the last weekend before congress comes back. The news on those fronts would be rehashing.
mrmoshpotato
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: 1. Pets? 2. How old do they think Eric is -12? 3. That’s just creepy.
Baud
@Another Scott:
I agree.
raven
@zhena gogolia:
Ex-NATO commander: This tweet was a good move by Trump
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Sloane Ranger
Christ on a Christmas tree, some people have never got over something that happened nearly 50 years ago!
What relevance does the Iranian hostage crisis have to the current fuck up in Iraq and why does he think that destroying ancient non-Muslim monuments is a threat? It’s much more likely to upset historians and archeologists in the west while I imagine some Iranian hardliners might, secretly, actually welcome the destruction of such pagan symbols.
zhena gogolia
@raven:
Oh, Christ, another senile idiot.
Brachiator
@dmsilev:
Or maybe for each of the 52 states…
sukabi
@zhena gogolia: ok, rmoney’s got a weird twinky fetish. Remembering a twinky birthday cake as his favorite.
raven
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Barry, “let’s kill a ton of Iraqi’s after the cease fire”? That Barry?
Procopius
I wonder if any of his advisers have dared to tell him those people who broke into a waiting room at the embassy were not Iranian, they are Iraqi, and he has been bombing Iraqi armed forces and killed one of their commanders? Are they still pretending that Iraq is a sovereign nation? How many hostages to fortune (i.e., American soldiers, marines, and airmen) do we have in Iraq now, 7,000? They aren’t really equipped for combat operations in Iraq, despite the lie that they are there to fight ISIS. Well, I guess the Air Force are, but do we really want to start bombing Baghdad? What do we do when the Iraqi Parliament demands that all American forces by withdrawn from Iraq by next week? Or is this his strategy to finally pull the last troops out of Syria? If he’s forced to withdraw all troops from Iraq there’s no way to supply the troops in Syria, so they could be withdrawn or, after starving for a while, surrender to the Syrian Arab Army.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@raven: Exactly. Even a mad dog thinks this is crazy.
Adam L Silverman
I’ll just leave this here:
https://mwi.usma.edu/irans-human-geography-wicked-problem-people-places-things-complicates-us-strategy/
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@sukabi:
I hate that fucking cloying “I’m really quite the regular fellow, just like you slobs with your junk food and so forth” bullshit, especially from that plutocrat, dynasty-deluded fucking coward.
Some of my political follows are tweeting about Tim Fucking Russert because the Bills are so damn close… I always hated the way he brought all the phony bonhomie about sports to political discussions. Though I do for some reason find myself rooting for the Bills. Underdog bias, or something.
mrmoshpotato
@FelonyGovt: Nancy SMASH! and Pepperidge Farm remember that the motherfucker has been impeached.
Adam L Silverman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: That wasn’t a British officer, that was Pershing.
In reality it wasn’t Pershing, but you get the idea.
Another Scott
@Sloane Ranger:
(Emphasis added.)
Snark? [eta:] Ah, I see you’re talking about Donnie and his minions.
There was an episode of The Moth Radio Hour that I heard today. Alistair Bane told a story about meeting a friend’s grandmother who didn’t like Shawnee people because of some unpleasantness that happened in the late 1800s… ;-)
(And of course we know stories of grudges that go way, way, WAY, back beyond that.)
Cheers,
Scott.
Brachiator
@zhena gogolia:
There’s something about this that kinda misses the point, especially since we have a president who was hanging out with friends and guests at his Florida retreat teasing with “just watch what I might be getting ready to do.”
Adam L Silverman
@zhena gogolia: What is it with him and Twinkies?
mrmoshpotato
@Gin & Tonic: “A Soviet shitpile mobster conman who’d been sucking the Kremlin’s asshole since 1987…”
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
He has posted tweets since then, including a short thread on Iran Thursday. It’s anodyne bullshit, of course, similar to Susan Collins getting concerned and firing off a stern letter to her Drafts folder.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@mrmoshpotato:
So does he:
tweeted about the same time as the promise of war crime
ETA: and yesterday a judge ruled that Lev Parnas can give his phone to House investigators. I’m not entirely clear on why he couldn’t just say, “Here ya go”
mrmoshpotato
@Sloane Ranger: Well, I can feel better about still hating W, Dick and Rummy then. :)
mrmoshpotato
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: And you 47% who are mooching scum!
Immanentize
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Parnas wants immunity from Congress. Remember Ollie North?
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: If Texas is still controlling textbook content, it will be presented as the American Renaissance.
zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack:
Oh, that wasn’t on the thread I saw when I googled “Mitt Romney Twitter.” It was just the Christmas stuff.
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
Difficult to see ahead when everything in your life is a gigantic rear view mirror.
Or one’s head is parked in one’s exit orifice.
Adam L Silverman
@raven: I’m not sure that Clark isn’t going to want a do over on those comments.
Also, what is it with Sippy and the horizontal striped sweaters?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Immanentize: and they need the judge’s approval to offer it? Sorry if that’s too complicated a legal question for this format, and I’m sure I could go read an article. But I’m lazy.
McGahn and Bolton could testify if they wanted too, right?
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
You need to up your Twitter-fu. The Google doesn’t automatically give you the most recent thing at the top of the results.
Go to any Romney tweet and click on his stupid face to get to the “top” of his Twitter stream.
Amir Khalid
@Adam L Silverman:
My guess: Twinkies are among the few indulgences not forbidden in the Mormon faith.
zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack:
I did that and it took me to the Christmas tree. I scrolled down and saw nothing about Iran.
https://twitter.com/MittRomney
Dan B
@schrodingers_cat: It’s terrible what the tech giants have become. It seems as though we will need an epic catastrophe to get the political will to really punish and reform them. The horrors inflicted on the Rohingya were not enough. I’m hoping for enough of us to notice the propaganda and point it out to people who doubt its existence that we can elect politicians with spines and political savvy.
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
Ah. @SenatorRomney is his “official” account. You were looking through family bullshit.
Donald Gisselbeck
The biggest problem the fucking moron has is that he is deeply insecure about the length, rigidity and staying power of his dick.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Steeplejack: but what says Pierre Delecto ?
phein60
@raven: LBJ is exactly the avatar of what we’re discussing: A Democrat who was so afraid of what Republicans would accuse him of that he sanctioned the continuation of war crimes in Vietnam.
Had he had the courage of his convictions — or even a commitment to his own political senses –, US involvement in Vietnam could have ended in 1964.
zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack:
Oh, sorry! I maligned Mitt Romney. That’s pretty confusing.
Sloane Ranger
@Another Scott: I know a lot of people can hold grudges forever. The Battle of the Boyne can still start fights in Northern Ireland and elsewhere, as can even older battles in the Balkans, but actual governments don’t base their foreign policies on them – except Trump’s USA apparently.
zhena gogolia
@zhena gogolia:
But I didn’t malign Collins or Murkowski. Those are their official twitters.
Adam L Silverman
@zhena gogolia: Why didn’t you?
mrmoshpotato
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Impeachment Lite? Great impeachment taste, less umm….something?
ETA – Re: Parnas. I don’t get that either. “Here, I removed the PIN code. Have at it.”
MazeDancer
Joined all those in outrage at Twitter for letting Trump break all the rules. Also reported the 52 hits tweet for “threatening harm or violence”.
Of course, they’ll do nothing , but make ‘em work for it.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
Mitt is a twinkie. //
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
No, you’re good. They’re both bullshit accounts. His “statement” was probably worse than if he had just stuck to Christmas trees.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
As much as I hate to be fair, the tweets above were tweeted before the assassination. They may not have known what was going to happen.
zhena gogolia
@debbie:
Yes, but it has happened. Adam Schiff, Chris Murphy, Eric Swalwell, et al. have responded to the recent drastic events. Why haven’t these U.S. Senators?
J R in WV
@Mary G:
I suspect that Trump’s exit strategy involves the prolific use of nuclear “special” weapons. Horrible, but that’s what I think he intends to do, given the smallest excuse, nuke them into non-existence. Also shows up in his love for other war criminals!
Bill Arnold
@mrmoshpotato:
In its full glory:
XKCD’s Creator Explains What Would Happen If Earth Stopped Spinning (Randall Munroe, 8/21/14)
Bill Arnold
@raven:
That was pretty dishonest of her stripping out key bits of the tweet. It’s not clear to me that Clark had seen the tweet thread. Roughly, she just said the bold:
The parts she didn’t say, striking the rest:
And viewers just saw what I bolded above. CNN did not mention Trump’;s threat that he would order (apparent) war crimes.
mrmoshpotato
@Bill Arnold: Yeah. I went to XKCD looking for that when Mary G wanted off this doomed planet.
sab
@zhena gogolia: I am in Ohio. My Republicn Senator (Portman) is okay with U S war crimes, because he got his tax cuts and he is kind of rich. This is debbie’s political world.
Ransom
There’s no need to retaliate if the martyrdom of Suleimani definitively shifts Iraq into Iran’s orbit and results in the expulsion of US from Iraq. That’s called Operational Success!
Chief Oshkosh
@Gin & Tonic: No need to guess. How was the Vietnam war taught in the late 70s to the early 90s? Most “history” classes didn’t go beyond WWII.