Chuck Todd’s “Meet the Press Daily” could be sidelined at MSNBC as part of a dramatic anchor reshuffling at the cable network to promote rising star Nicolle Wallace. https://t.co/KfWF4j8MhY
— Jon Cooper ?? (@joncoopertweets) January 4, 2020
Being as this is the NY(Com)Post, I have the suspicion the People Who Decide Such Things are hoping for an outcry — No, no, we can’t do without two hours a day of our dear Chuckles!!!
Think they’ll be disappointed? Or will semi-ex-Republican Wallace do just as well, for the election-year IOKIYAR purposes?
… While the “MTP” flagship, also under NBC political director Todd, remains the No. 1 rated Sunday political show, with over 3 million viewers, his weekday 5 p.m. spinoff show has seen a dip in the all-important 25-to-54 age demographic. It airs between more popular, opinionated shows: Wallace’s “Deadline: White House,” which peaked with 2 million viewers in 2019, and “The Beat With Ari Melber.”
TV insiders say NBC News boss Andy Lack and MSNBC’s Phil Griffin had tried to persuade Todd to move “Daily” to 9 a.m., directly after the network’s politically influential “Morning Joe.” The plan would allow Wallace — a breakout cable star — to broadcast for two hours on weekdays, 4 to 6 p.m.
Plus, the 9 a.m. slot could soon be open, Page Six revealed. That hour’s host, Stephanie Ruhle, has just signed to become NBC’s senior business correspondent, appearing across all shows including “Today” and “NBC Nightly News.”
But a TV insider said, “Chuck doesn’t want to move to 9 a.m. He’d rather leave MSNBC completely and focus on ‘Meet the Press’ on Sunday, and continue to provide news and political analysis across all NBC News platforms including digital. He sees his show as news, not opinion.” Another insider mused it was “madness for NBC to upset the face of its political coverage ahead of 2020. They need Chuck on air every day.”…
Baud
Maybe they are punishing Todd for speaking out against disinformation.
Baud
Also, too, “No one puts Chucky in a corner.”
debbie
I’d rather they were shuffling him off to t.v.’s Siberia because he’s an ass rather then wanting to make room for someone else.
oatler.
David Gregory says “Welcome, thou good and faithful servant.”
Patricia Kayden
That’s great news because I always turn off MSNBC after Nicole’s show. I’d love to see her show continue for another hour in prime time.
Baud
“You want Chuck on that wall, you need Chuck on that wall!”
Juice Box
Nicole Wallace is smart and she seems to have more-or-less seen the light. I think her show is pretty good. Chuck Todd is an insufferable, arch lightweight.
Nicole
Define “need.”
WaterGirl
@Baud: That was my first thought exactly.
sukabi
Todd should have never been promoted to head of political coverage, he’s less than worthless as far as imparting any useful information or context. Plus his “it’s not my job to fact check” should have gotten him canned in an environment that wasn’t just a nicer propaganda outlet.
donnah
I like Nicolle Wallace and I despise Chuckles Todd. Easy vote for me to make.
piratedan
Well, when you consider all of the value that Mr Todd adds to the procedings, you have to believe that there is someone else more than willing to be a villager for hire available to Andy’s needs
scav
Anyone that conflates “political analysis” with “news” is poor caliber and likely dangerous, even if momentarily well-intentioned.
patrick II
@Juice Box:
She also spoke in more frank terms about Trump early in his presidency than any of the other leads on MSNBC. I was unhappy that it took an ex-republican to do it, but the others have mostly caught up.
James E Powell
It’s easy to disparage Chuck Todd, and I do, but he pretty much industry standard Villager who will probably be replaced by another industry standard Villager. Anything else would cause the sponsors to freak out.
FlyingToaster
I cannot imagine caring less who is on any of the 24-hr cable news networks.
And Chuckles can be shipped to Siberia, or Omaha. Whichever is cheaper.
Juju
The article sort of makes me wonder if any of the upper executives have watched MTP Daily. I broke my rule of not watching anything with Chuck after he made the Hilary came off as over prepared comment, and his Daily show is/was both siderism central. I haven’t watched since Chuck’s recent epiphany.
I like Nicole Wallace’s show, but two hours may be too much.
Poptartacus
Yes she’s a heroine now. All her crimes are forgiven
fuck that bush apparatchik
Tinare
I have become a big fan of Nicolle Wallace’s show. She generally has good guests and asks good questions. I despise Chuckles.
eddie blake
yeah, wallace and melber’s shows are informative and entertaining. far better than chuck todd’s tripe.
eddie blake
ot-
the knicks are playing surprisingly well against the clippers.
eta- they lost by three. hot damn.
raven
@eddie blake: And the Aint’s are whining again.
PsiFighter37
You have a short fuckin’ memory. Nicole Wallace worked as a senior advisor on McCain’s 2008 campaign. I hate Chuck Todd as much as the next person, but elevating someone who is a known GOP partisan into a prime political news time?
FUCK THAT.
Sincerely,
PF37 +6
raven
I like Wallace, I read the NYT, and I use Facebook. So the fuck what?
PsiFighter37
The amount of adoration for Wallace, now that I read upthread more, is sickening. I bet you all think Jennifer Rubin is your BFF now as well. The enemy of our enemy is our friend, but don’t forget that they will shiv you as soon as their work is done. There are a lot of ‘Never Trumpers’ in media land, but they are not your friend. They want Scott Walker and Donald Trump policies, but without the blatant racism.
eddie blake
@PsiFighter37: you watch her show? she seems visibly disgusted with the gop.
PsiFighter37
@eddie blake: Until she publicly declares, as Steve Schmidt did, that she is no longer a card-carrying member of the GOP and wants Democrats elected, why would you trust her?
Rubin says the same shit, but she has never, ever renounced her conservative beliefs or credentials.
dmsilev
@Nicole: Maybe it keeps him off the streets?
khead
@raven:
You forgot to get a football shot in there. Also, I’m fine with the no call at the end of the Saints game.
JPL
@PsiFighter37: There’s a reason that I haven’t weighed in. She does do a good job on her show, but yes she is a republican.
Hildebrand
Can they boot Matthews in the great reshuffle? That would be awesome.
Sloane Peterson's knee therapist
So whatever happened to Luke Russert? Wasn’t NBC/MSNBC/NPOSTBC/ MSPREBC/NBCECT keeping a seat nicely warmed for him once he graduated from high school?
EDIT: And just out of curiosity why is EVERYONE of my comments in moderation? Is it my breath? Is this now a closed frat/sorority?
Tinare
@PsiFighter37: I seem to recall our blog host held differing opinions once. People change and adapt. I just find her show, as she is currently doing it, informative and well done. YMMV, but I’m not interested in holding someone’s (nonviolent, non criminal) past against them.
Another Scott
@PsiFighter37: DC political news is wired for Republicans. Film at 11.
MSNBC hasn’t been “liberal” since they canned Phil Donahue, and MHP, and Olbermann, and … You get the idea.
If you don’t like her, don’t watch her. People voting with their dollars is the only way to get
GE, NBC-Universal,Comcast to pay attention to what viewers want to see on MSNBC.Cheers,
Scott.
(“Who hasn’t watched MSNBC in ages.”)
TS (the original)
How many ex republicans will be back in the fold when trump is out? Why did it take a fool to reveal to them what the GOP has become when it was obvious to sane people from the day Obama was elected President?
Fleeting Expletive
Kay (not the front-pager)
@sukabi: +++++++
opiejeanne
@Fleeting Expletive: That was fleeting.
James E Powell
@TS (the original):
All of ’em, Katie.
Jackie
Nicole Wallace is one of the few shows I record, along with Ari Melber, to watch while Hardball is airing.
danielx
@TS (the original):
It was obvious what the Republican Party was becoming when Ronald Reagan made his “states’ rights” speech at the Neshoba County, Mississippi fair, and further reinforced when he visited the cemetary in Bitburg, Germany wherein various members of the SS (Schutzstaffel) are interred. Obama’s election was the reason (and excuse) for the Republican Party to go completely off its collective rocker, but they’d been heading that way for forty years.
evodevo
@debbie: The less I see of Chuck Fraud, the lower my blood pressure stays…
jnfr
I usually record Nicole and watch instead of MTP. Sometimes Mr. J watches her instead of Tweety.
I do watch Chris Hayes and Rachel straight through though.
Tom Q
Wallace will clearly never be pure enough for some here, but it’s worth noting that, though she was on the McCain campaign team, she in the end didn’t vote for him because she was appalled by Palin and couldn’t in conscience put her a step away from the presidency. So, she’s not one of those whose issues with the GOP started (and may end) with Trump.
And, if you watch her show (which I do, regularly), you’ll see see’s not just against Trump, but opposed to many elements of the GOP coalition — very much the NRA, and more. I suspect she’s someone who was Republican by ancestry, and has come around by exposure to the worst of it. Not unlike our blog host, I’d say. She says just about every day that she’ll vote for ANY Democrat who runs this year. Sorry that’s not enough for some.
And her show is lively and on-point — a striking contrast to Chuck Todd’s, which swims in Beltway right-leaning conventional wisdom. To believe losing him would be a detriment is to be part of the both sides/really mostly Republican crowd that gave us 2016 and Trump.
Another Scott
@Tom Q: Thanks for your perspective. Appreciated.
Cheers,
Scott.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Sloane Peterson’s knee therapist:
Nobody likes knee therapists around here!
Actually, as a new commenter, all of your comments automatically go into moderation until a front-pager takes a look and certifies you, which I see has now happened.
Another Scott
In other news, NPR:
<a href="The Hofeller Files. It points to storage on a Google drive, so with any luck there won’t be any successful DDOS attacks and the like.
I hope the good guys are studying those things closely and using them in voter suppression/gerrymandering cases. The GOP isn’t going to give up. We have to fight them every single day.
Cheers,
Scott.
Mike in NC
Andy Hack and Chuck Todd need new employment. Maybe as parking lot attendants somewhere.
janesays
@Patricia Kayden: Her show would still be in the afternoon, it would just end at 5pm ET, an hour later than it currently does.
PsiFighter37
@Tom Q: I do not trust any of them. I bet Nicole Wallace voted for Mittens in 2012 because he was seen as docile enough and because Pretty Boy Ryan was second in comment.
Rubin, David Frum, David French, Rick Wilson, Stuart Stevens – I trust them as far as I could heave a bag of my daughter’s turds in a diaper, which is not very far. They will revert back to being their GOP-loving selves unless the dunce caps making up the base of the GOP decide Donald Jr. is truly the best option in 2024 (mark my words – he will run).
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Nicolle = zeal of a convert
It’s the only show I record and I do so cuz she’s so fierce in her hatred of Dump and the gop.
To paraphrase Apocalypse Now, “sell the house, sell the car, sell the kids, find someone else, she’s never coming back”.
Another Scott
[tap, tap] Is this thing back on??
[eta:] It looks like it. Yay!
Cheers,
Scott.
hells littlest angel
Except for the occasional inappropriate giggling, I like Nicolle Wallace’s show. I think it behooves us to forgive apostate Republicans — but if you can’t manage that, at least dial down the hatred. Sheesh.
Gin & Tonic
@eddie blake:
Not a sentence that gets written very often, unfortunately.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@PsiFighter37:
You mean she will run, it’ll be Ivanka.
Gin & Tonic
@Another Scott: Were you seeing the Cloudflare 502’s as well?
BruceFromOhio
Gaia, fire that insider muse, stat. Clearly a Gabbard plant!
Another Scott
@Gin & Tonic: 524 Timeouts, here. Just on trying to post. Refreshing another tab without a comment submission in progress worked fine.
I sent WG a note. Maybe she’ll be able to figure out what was going on, if it wasn’t the coders working in the background.
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
@Gin & Tonic: Yep, looks like it was down for awhile.
Thanks for the heads up.
sab
Joshua Johnson, who replaced Diane Rehm on NPR, has been hired by MSNBC for an anchor job. Has anyone heard who is replacing?
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@PsiFighter37: Both Wallace and JRub have seen the light. They strongly opposed the tax cut and support ACA. JRub even supports single payer.
janesays
@PsiFighter37: About that… she was on Colbert in November and referred to the GOP as her “old party”, and when pressed further, she said she’s no longer a practicing Republican.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/msnbcs-nicolle-wallace-rips-into-fellow-republicans-on-colbert-they-know-better
While I certainly wouldn’t go so far as to say Wallace is any sort of progressive warrior, she is clearly far more of an ally to us than someone like Chuck Todd.
PsiFighter37
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Nope. DJTJ has the out-loud moron part down better than Ivanka does.
PsiFighter37
@janesays: She’s still a Republican. If she can’t be bothered to re-register, it means she still carries their ideology at heart.
So…fuck her. My belief still stands.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Such horseshit.
The reason his show has low ratings is because it’s nothing but opinion – right wing opinion.
janesays
@PsiFighter37: Cool. Enjoy your belief.
I hope she gets Chuck’s afternoon airtime.
PsiFighter37
@janesays: I think it’s a pretty valid opinion. If she cannot be bothered to re-register to reflect her current beliefs, it means she is lazy AF – or doesn’t actually believe in what Democrats believe in.
Look at Cole – the dude was a card-carrying Republican for how many years? Registered as a Democrat in 2007 so he could be one of 2 dozen white people in WV to vote for Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary. If you actually care about something, you’ll make the effort to show it.
janesays
@James E Powell: Agreed. Though worth noting – there isn’t anything to suggest NBC is thinking replacing Chuck Todd anytime soon. The article is saying there are rumors that his daily show on MSNBC will get shifted to the mornings from it’s current afternoon slot. His Sunday morning crapfest on NBC isn’t going anywhere.
janesays
@PsiFighter37: Sure, it’s a valid opinion.
One that I disagree with. I like her and consider her an ally, you don’t. Not a big deal.
Jay
The daughter of dead ReThug Hofeller, the guy who’s leak of “redistricting” files by the same daughter, blew up the SC case, has put all his hard drives online, despite threats from the GOP.
Jay C
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Maybe: She’s going to have to bury some embarrassing facts, though: more stories are coming out about The Princess’s dealings with corrupt officials in Azerbaijan: who (as has been occasionally reported) were representing a front company (one Qassem Soleimani, CEO apparently) backed by the Iranian IRGC for money-laundering. And guess which US company was the only one willing to deal with them? (A hint: rhymes with “Dump”)
raven
@PsiFighter37: Get over yourself Moses.
Mary G
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@PsiFighter37: Maybe Jr. and Ivanka will run against each other in the 2024 primary. [pukes]
janesays
@Sloane Peterson’s knee therapist: He quit NBC in 2016 and seems to have decided that he has no interest in being a DC village voice. Said at the time he’s looking at a different career path. Hasn’t been seen since.
BBA
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: I’m going to go off the board and say it’ll be Kushner.
Jay
@Jay:
Missed @Scott’s previous comment because the cloud was flaring.
There is going to be more in the files than just redistricting and voter supression data and strategies.
Chyron HR
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon:
Don’t forget the faction putting Baron forth as the true heir to the throne since he also carries the first lady’s blood.
burnspbesq
OT:
there are persistent reports from the big border crossing between Seattle and Vancouver of CBP intrusively interrogating, and in some cases detaining, AMERICAN CITIZENS and green card holders with Iranian sounding names.
janesays
@Another Scott: MSNBC’s primetime lineup (Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O’Donnell) is indisputably progressive. And while dayside is nowhere near as ostentatiously left-leaning as the primetime three, they’ve definitely leaned more towards being opponents of the GOP than cheerleaders for it in the past few years. I don’t think it’s fair to say they’re the liberal version of Fox News, but mainly because I think MSNBC relies primarily on actual facts rather than “alternative facts” in their reporting. They’ve got a handful of both-siders blathering nonsense every day, but the network as a whole definitely leans a little more left than right (at least relative to the American political divide).
Jay
@burnspbesq
It’s not rumours, it’s been confirmed.
All border crossings, ports and airports.
Peace Arch is attracting most of the attention because of an Iranian Music Concert in Vancouver last night.
Another Scott
@Jay: (Remember to clip on the Text tab in the B-J comment editor before you paste the Tweet Embed code.)
Cheers,
Scott.
Jackie
OT YAY SEAHAWKS!!!!???
WaterGirl
@Jay: To embed a tweet, you need to click on the TEXT tab. Then pasting in your tweet displays properly.
WaterGirl
@Jay: : I see you had it figured out!
burnspbesq
@Jay:
The Western District of Washington is about as far left as any U.S. District Court in the country. The TROs will start flying as quickly as complaints can be drafted and filed. This is (technical legal term) fuckin’ bullshit.
Jay
@Another Scott:
yeah, slips by sometimes, then I gotta go back and edit.
Renie
I would love to see Chuck Todd replaced on his daily show, he should never have been given the MTP anchor. He’s a hack. I do like Nicole Wallace’s show cuz I love to hear what Chuck Rosenberg thinks and he is on it alot.
janesays
You seem to have this mindset that if you don’t despise Wallace to the core of your being, it must mean you adore her and agree with her about everything.
I don’t really see any “adoration” for Wallace in this thread – what I see are a number of people who think she seems like a decent human being and appreciate that she’s using her platform to be a staunch critic of Trump and the current GOP establishment, despite her own background.
The world is a lot more gray than that.
Jay
@burnspbesq:
CBD, like many other US Government organizations, take their orders from the President, and only the President.
Kay
@PsiFighter37
Ivanka is a bore. She’s learned to string some policy-sounding phrases together but she’s wooden and not very bright. If she was anyone but Trump’s daughter no one would pay her any attention at all. There are hundreds of city council members and county commissioners with more political talent.
Republicans deserve her. I hope she leapfrogs ahead of all their qualified candidates based solely on nepotism and they all have to pretend she’s something other than mediocre.
janesays
@sab: The network is getting ready to go through a bunch of shakeups in coming weeks. David Gura announced today that his weekend show “Up with David Gura” will be ending soon and that Ali Velshi will be replacing him in the timeslot. Gura will be moving to the afternoons on the weekends. Ali Velshi and Stephanie Ruhle are both leaving the weekday lineup (though both will continue to work for MSNBC/NBC News).
https://deadline.com/2019/12/msnbc-lineup-ali-velshi-anchors-new-weekend-mornings-show-1202814942/
Jim, Foolish Literalist
somebody probably already answered, but she has repeatedly said she is an ex-Republican and will vote for Bernie Sanders’ campaign bus if that’s who gets the nomination. She talks about choice and climate in ways that make me think she’s sincerely done.
Whatever the case, I just find it hilarious that she’s being promoted over a blithering, both-sides, promoted-by-the-Man idiot on the strength of pure trump hatred
Jay
Looks like Pompeo floated the murder but they had to purge some people from the Pentagon to make it a go.
West of the Rockies
@Baud:
I wondered the opposite: if his “I’ve seen the light” moment came because he heard he was being moved and is trying to beef up his so-called bona fides.
sab
@janesays: Thanks.
Jay
So it looks like the Doltus and the MAGAt’s in charge of the nukes, “deescalated” by murdering the “deescalator”.
Kay
My youngest is reading Biden Tweets in a mocking tone so I told him Bernie Bros are anti-democratic and want a “coronation” –
Ha! Take that, high schooler! Like shooting fish inna barrel.
We’re making progress though- he said he will “probably” vote for the Democrat if Bernie loses so I should quit while I’m ahead.
Patricia Kayden
Jay
Attacks are continuing on US positions in Iraq. Blowback is also happening in Syria to former US allies.
Jay
burnspbesq
@Jay:
Like fuck they do.
Patricia Kayden
Jay
@burnspbesq:
Doltus’s DOJ is currently arguing in Court that in a fight between Doltus and the Congress, the Courts have no say,
whom ever has the most Cops, Guns, Soldiers, Tanks etc. gets to win.
Well, it was a nice shining democracy once upon a time.
Jay
@Patricia Kayden:
they used to, but Congress abandoned that responsibility a long time ago.
brantl
burnspbesq
FWIW, CBP says it ain’t happening.
like CBP has any fucking credibility.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/476866-cbp-denies-claims-of-orders-to-detain-iranian-americans
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@janesays: “Facts have a well known liberal bias.”
~ Stephen Colbert
burnspbesq
@Jay:
Courts ALWAYS have jurisdiction to determine whether they have jurisdiction. And “political question” is jurisdictional. That’s a losing argument.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud:
@WaterGirl: No. He brought up a newspaper’s Letter to the Editor which said people who believe in Noah’s Ark are more likely to vote for Dump.
NBC’S CHUCK TODD FACES BACKLASH FOR HIGHLIGHTING LETTER COMPARING BIBLE STORY TO TRUMP FALSEHOODS AND ‘FAIRY TALES’
Also see Episode 527 (first 8 minutes) of Friday’s Professional Left podcast which brought it to my attention.
Bruuuuce
@Jay: Jim Wright’s response is perfect:
brantl
The last “qualified candidate” that the Republicans ran for anything was Bill Millikin, and he ran for governor of Michigan, more than 30 years ago.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@PsiFighter37: Maybe so, but daddy like Ivanka better.
Jay
@burnspbesq:
you might not have noticed lately, but quaint notions about Courts, Laws, etc, no longer apply.
How many Divisions does the Supreme Court have, as if this Court would use them if they had them,……
how many cops does the Congress have vs. disBarr’s FBI?
as we have seen, the Generals, the Pentagon, etc have no “checks and ballances” on Doltus.
CBC/ICE break the law day in, day out, kill people with impunity, run Concentration Camps, and just ignore the Courts rulings.
@Bruuuuce:
like anybody but Warren has any interest in disarming the ruleing Plutocracy.
glory b
@Kay: Tell him to think of the minorities and vulnerable people whose lives might depend on his vote.
And you could read some of the nasty comments that Bernie’s people leave for people, especially women, of color, like Neera Tanden, Jason Johnson, blackwomenviews and Angry Black Lady.
Kay
@glory b:
We’re wheeling and dealing. I told him I will commit to vote for Bernie in the OH primary if he will commit to vote for the nominee in the general. This is a good deal for him! He took it.
I’m not sure I can do this with 3 million people though- we all have to take one :)
J R in WV
@PsiFighter37:
Actually, I think you’re quite wrong about Donald Jr. it’s virtually impossible to run for any office from within a Federal prison.
glory b
@Kay: It’s a start :)!
No One You Know
@PsiFighter37: Well, I understand her view. I was voting Democratic long before I changed my registration, largely because I didn’t care who won in the primaries. I was bored by politics until my 40s and voted as a duty because at least it was social then. Consistently voting the other way had no obvious penalties… until the watershed that was Bush-Gore.
She may have her moment. Or not. She still looks like progress to me, even if she’s still registered with wrong side of history at this point. IMHO; YMMV.
J R in WV
@Jay:
That is not how it works in this country, no matter what slackers let slide. Congress can’t just abandon a responsibility, and that responsibility is no longer theirs.
Mike Furlan
Nicholle Wallace is a war criminal. I am a little shocked that everybody here seems to be OK with her.
Had we somehow lost the Iraq War badly enough for the Bush administration be deposed and captured, she would have gone on trial for her part in the illegal Iraq war. And she still thinks it was a good idea.
“Wallace was George W. Bush’s communications director as the Iraq War began.
“[Obama’s] legacy on foreign policy is going to be that he didn’t start a war in Iraq. He wasn’t the president, thank God, in the years after 9/11.” [MSNBC, 5/30/14]”
https://www.alternet.org/2018/03/19-champions-iraq-war-mainstream-media-refuses-disown/
https://youtu.be/bhRmcNbr45E
Jay
@J R in WV:
like laws against White Collar Crime, if someone, say like Doltus, can for decades launder money, commit fraud, buy off investigations and prosecutions with donations to campaigns, or by pulling favours,
do laws against White Collar Crime exist as laws, or are they just archaic museings written down somewhere.
and when you have Lawyers from the Department of Justice, arguing with a straight face in Court, that the Office of the President is above any interference from the Courts,
should, at some point in time, a Congress decide to “take back” the War Powers from the President, do you think that a Doltus type President will pay any attention, or his pet Generals?
remember, Nixon illegally and secretly bombed Cambodia for 14 months with massive B52 strikes. The Pentagon knew nothing about it. The Joint Chiefs knew nothing about it. The House and Senate knew nothing about it. Hundreds of people who supposedly took oaths and had legal responsibility to ignore/report the criminality, went along with it, worked hard at it, and out of the hundreds sworn to secrecy, only one blew the whistle,
3 1/2 years afterwards, and only because when he started asking questions, they FUBAR’ed his jacket and killed his career.
Jay
@Mike Furlan:
as a Good American, you are supposed to “look forwards, not backwards”.
Not prosecuting War Crimes and other “political crimes”, starting with Nixon, have had consequences internally for “the Republic”, and will continue to do so.
betting odds are that in 2024 disBarr is still a Lawyer, Doltus is a free man, and Tweetie is still on TV.
dww44
@PsiFighter37: Actually, I accept that both Rubin and Wallace are former recovering conservatives. I don’t believe either of them has any plans to return to the GOP in its current iteration. They also happen to be both very good in their respective roles as guest pundit and regular host.
Also, too, Todd just grates on my last nerve. I can barely watch and listen to him.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Jay: Congress has an awesome power, the power of the purse.
Jay
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
theoretically. How’s that deficit doing?
as many have noted here, not only is the public not on the same page, but the politicians arn’t on the same page.
On paper, and as befitting a global military and economic superpower, the Congress has great power, that they have abandoned.
John Yoo is still teaching the Next Generation at UC Berkley isn’t he?
E
@Juice Box: I think she still considers herself a Republican. As soon as Trump is gone she’ll revert back to her old Bush years self (she was communications director for the Bush administration).
Jinchi
Are they trying to say American citizenship doesn’t offer protection?
Because that doesn’t seem even remotely legal.
Chris Johnson
@Nicole: Oh, THEY do, but we sure as fuck don’t.
Jay
@Jinchi:
funny thing is US laws start not “at the border” but instead, once you are across. Americans can be denied entry at the US Border, Ports and Airports, or detained.
that is ususally the simple harassment of a US Citizen by a petty bureaucracy or the Derp State, and ususally get’s cleared up once the lawyers are deployed for combat, ( if said American Citizen can afford a lawyer or lawyers or can “media go fund me” enough attention or outrage to score some sweet, sweet pro bono points.
In cases where the Derp State invokes that magical phrase, ( no, not Radical Islamic Terrorism, close though), National Security and hides behind “Classified”, it might take a while and when you do get back in, you won’t leave ever again.
when the Doltus is the “petty bureaucrat” and is using the Derp State,……. well?
Say, how long have those kids been in cages now anyway and how come the numbers just keep going up and up, and up and up?
didn’t a buttload of courts rule that “hey, you can’t do that!” quite a while ago?
Mike Furlan
@Jay:
Apparently this blog if chock full of “Good Americans.”
Nicolle Wallace is unapologetic for crimes she participated in that are worse than anything Trump has done, yet.
But everybody here, apparently, likes her.
Good thing she didn’t do something tasteless, like pose with one of her victims, then she would be banished on account of “style points.”
https://youtu.be/fDjdO6viSWU
burnspbesq
Jay, your affected, above-it-all cynicism is quintessentially Canadian, exceedingly tiresome, and a luxury that those of us who actually have skin in the game can’t afford.
if you need to be told what to do with it, I’ll be happy to tell you.
Jay
@burnspbesq:
Sorry, but like others have pointed out, there is not “One Neat Trick” to fix all the things that are broken.
Sadly, I think a butt load of “The Resistance” think that just booting out Doltus fixes everything.
Did you see all the massive protests over the weekend?
eddie blake
@Gin & Tonic: i KNOW, right
eta- (they’ve been playing REMARKABLY better under miller than fizdale.)