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You are here: Home / Politics / Politicans / NANCY SMASH! / Thursday Morning Open Thread: CRONE POWER

Thursday Morning Open Thread: CRONE POWER

by Anne Laurie|  January 9, 20204:54 am| 75 Comments

This post is in: NANCY SMASH!, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Women's Rights

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If I were her I’d probably print out and frame that Fox News chyron that inaccurately reported her death last year https://t.co/f43ZBRrGwa

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 8, 2020

REPORTER:
Some people are calling it the worst briefing they've ever gotten.

SPEAKER PELOSI:
Well, there's stiff competition for that from this administration.
pic.twitter.com/IBbH6AnZ14

— David Gura (@davidgura) January 9, 2020

Breaking: Pelosi says House will vote Thursday on measure to limit Trump's military actions regarding Iran https://t.co/lixBxJbZoP

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) January 8, 2020

Here’s what we know so far:

● The U.S. military said no Americans were killed or wounded in the Iranian missile attacks on bases in Iraq early Wednesday.

● U.S. officials said they knew Iranian missiles were coming hours before the attack.

● Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, called the attack a “slap in the face” of the United States but said more needed to be done to end the U.S. presence in the region and avenge the death of powerful Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani.

● Iraq’s acting prime minister said he was informed of the attack ahead of time.

● Lawmakers left a closed-door briefing with top national security officials divided over whether the strike that killed Soleimani was legally justified, and Pelosi said the House will vote Thursday on a measure to limit Trump’s military actions regarding Iran…

Feels different than the last time Barbara Lee was urging caution about launching a new war in Asia pic.twitter.com/ejMVfEdJxv

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 8, 2020

Also in the Power league, a man with professional experience of eldritch horror:

I’ll match that, making $150,000. But full press corps. https://t.co/ToewY1Qr5J

— Stephen King (@StephenKing) January 8, 2020

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  1. 1.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 9, 2020 at 5:34 am

    Where is everybody?

  2. 2.

    JPL

    January 9, 2020 at 5:35 am

    Good news about RGB’s health.

  3. 3.

    JPL

    January 9, 2020 at 5:39 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: You’re up early or is it late?

  4. 4.

    TS (the original)

    January 9, 2020 at 5:42 am

    It has been 301 days since The White House held a press briefing.

    Trump is really scared to let anyone know what he is, or is not doing. And just to mention because it rarely is said ….

    ……

    If the Obama administration had gone a week without a press conference, the GOP would be calling for impeachment

     

    Edit: I remember those videos – released every week, detailing what had happened “this week in the white house”.

  5. 5.

    satby

    January 9, 2020 at 5:51 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: still on the thread downstairs? Good morning!

    @JPL: And good morning to you ?

  6. 6.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 5:53 am

    Nice profile: Doctor, sailor, Super Bowl contender: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif’s strange career

    As he waited for his name to be called at the 2014 draft he wasn’t at home or at a party, he was attending an emergency C-section to assist a mother giving birth to premature twins. He handed his phone to a nurse and said, “If somebody calls, just say yes”.

    As it turned out, Duvernay-Tardif needn’t have worried: he ended up being picked the next day in the sixth round. “When I got home, all my friends and the media were there, even though I didn’t get drafted and they were asking me, ‘Where were you?’ And I told them, ‘Well, I wasn’t done with my shift’”.
    ……………………….
    It was only in the run-up to college that Duvernay-Tardif started to properly embrace the game. His talent and size – he is currently listed at 6ft 5in and 321lbs – helped him stand out in the defensive line and when he was accepted to medical school at Montreal’s prestigious McGill University, he was inevitably tapped up by the coaches. But his academic commitments, particularly during a freshman year that saw him watch recordings of lectures at half-speed while furiously flipping through an English dictionary (French is his first language), ensured a breathless schedule.

    The following year, Duvernay-Tardif worked various hospital shifts, including overnights. To ensure he’d make the team’s early practices, sometimes he’d sleep in the locker room in his scrubs. But he seemed to find calm in the chaos and when he transitioned to the offensive line, he excelled. His teammates nicknamed him Dr Kill, a sort of Jekyll and Hyde character – the sweet, caring medic and his ruthless, bone-crushing, intimidating alter ego.

    By his fourth season in college, some whispered of a potential NFL career, and various teams came to see him in Montreal. But he told them all the same thing: continuing his degree was non-negotiable. “Some teams said, ‘Well, how do we know you’re fully committed to football?’ But others – like the Chiefs – told me, ‘This is amazing because it means you love the game and you’re here for the right reasons’”.

  7. 7.

    raven

    January 9, 2020 at 5:54 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Ewwww, football.

  8. 8.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 6:09 am

    @TS (the original):

    If the Obama administration had gone a week without a press conference, the GOP would be calling for impeachment

    You don’t remember how it was a thing in the media when candidate Hillary wasn’t holding enough press conferences as they would have liked.

  9. 9.

    JPL

    January 9, 2020 at 6:10 am

    @satby: I was concerned about you and glad to see your post.   Since you called the police, you probably scared away the creep, but it’s still unsettling.

  10. 10.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 9, 2020 at 6:12 am

    Ann Selzer poll (Gold Standard) is currently being conducted in Iowa for the Des Moines Register.  They usually release the findings on a Saturday night.

     

    Monmouth is releasing their poll of New Hampshire this morning, around 9 AM eastern.

    I wish best of luck to your favorite candidate (as long as it isn’t Wilmer).

  11. 11.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 6:14 am

    @Baud:

    In a presidential election cycle when the media has felt unusually free from the conventional constraints of “both sides” reporting, mostly to Donald Trump’s detriment, there is one issue where the mainstream press has been willing to take the gloves off against Hillary Clinton: press conferences

  12. 12.

    satby

    January 9, 2020 at 6:20 am

    @JPL: yeah, it’s normally a quiet neighborhood, though the sketchy factor has gone up in the last year. But I’m fine, if it was a prowler I was home and if it was a peeping Tom I probably bored him to death. It’s a sturdy brick house which would take a good deal of noise to break into and my slacker pups would at least bark then ? I think it was just an oddball incident.

  13. 13.

    satby

    January 9, 2020 at 6:25 am

    @Baud: I totally remember that because I had a running fight with my former classmate the journalist about it, since he also banged that drum. And was dismissive of candidate Trump being covered with any rigor since “he’s a joke and won’t get elected”.  Joke was on all of us. I quit following my former friend immediately after the election.

  14. 14.

    rikyrah

    January 9, 2020 at 6:27 am

    Good Morning, Everyone ???

  15. 15.

    TS (the original)

    January 9, 2020 at 6:32 am

    @Baud:  Sure do – the media does what it takes to keep the GOP in power. They consider trump’s tweets the equivalent of an Address to the Nation.

  16. 16.

    raven

    January 9, 2020 at 6:33 am

    @satby:  We really like our SimpliSafe.

  17. 17.

    TS (the original)

    January 9, 2020 at 6:35 am

    @Baud: From your link

    Chris Cillizza in the Washington Post: “Hillary Clinton hasn’t held a press conference in 257 days. That’s ridiculous.”
    Alex Pfeiffer in the Daily Caller: “Hillary Clinton hasn’t held a press conference in 260 days”

    I hold the press more responsible than the MAGAs for electing trump.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 6:40 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  19. 19.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 6:41 am

    @TS (the original):

    I don’t know about more responsible, but the media was in on the plot.

  20. 20.

    JPL

    January 9, 2020 at 6:44 am

    @TS (the original): trump knows that the news media’s bark is worse than their bite.   Munchin won’t even release what it costs to protect the president, cuz why should he.

  21. 21.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 6:44 am

    Democrats Fight Back Against Gerrymandering and Voter Suppression

  22. 22.

    gene108

    January 9, 2020 at 6:45 am

    @Baud:

    I remember. There was a daily reminder that it’s been “161 days”, since Hillary had a press conference, with her press gaggle, therefore “what is she hiding” was the only logical conclusion.

    I think the media must’ve been popping champaign bottles, when Trump won the EC, because they finally brought the bitch down.

  23. 23.

    NotMax

    January 9, 2020 at 6:47 am

    Trio of pix to help temper the blech. #1 – #2 – #3 (duck included)

    :)

  24. 24.

    gene108

    January 9, 2020 at 6:49 am

    @satby:

    Trump shot up to the top of the Republican primary polls immediately after his racist speech in Trump Tower announcing his candidacy.

    He never trailed in any poll from that day onward.

    Yet the media still never took him seriously as a candidate.

    Why doe media organizations bother to pay to have polls done, if the journalists, political analysts, etc. just ignore them and make candidate vetting decisions based on their “gut”, “instinct”, or whatever?

    And nothing has changed in how news rooms decide to cover presidential races, because the same goons, who were in charge 4 years ago, are still in charge.

  25. 25.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 9, 2020 at 6:52 am

    @TS (the original):  PBS American Experience premiered a documentary on Joe McCarthy this week.  The historians  presented it as an obvious allegory to Dump.

    At the end, Pulitzer Prize historian Sam Tanenhaus indicted the corporate media: “McCarthy brought out the complicity in American journalists, that we like the troublemaker and the rabble-rouser and the theatrical, spectacular figure who says the thing you’re not supposed to say, who breaks the rules, who disregards the facts. That makes for really good copy. And that’s what happened, that’s what kept McCarthy going for a long time until it all fell apart, and then he was just discarded.”

    In painting plain parallels and in exposing inconvenient truths, he charges today’s media with their own complicity in creating the monster.

  26. 26.

    daveNYC

    January 9, 2020 at 6:53 am

    Given how much fun 2020 has been so far, I don’t think it’s smart for RBG to tempt fate like that.  Just keep her head down and hope that this year’s showrunners don’t even remember she’s around.

  27. 27.

    satby

    January 9, 2020 at 6:58 am

    @raven: Not familiar with it, I have to look that up. Thanks.

  28. 28.

    Soprano2

    January 9, 2020 at 7:06 am

    @gene108: This a thousand times. I’ve believed for a long time that the press wanted Trump to get elected because most of them hated Hillary so much,  and the thought of covering her as president filled them with horror and dread. Also, they thought it was a lot of fun to cover Trump, and really believed that crap about how he would grow into the presidency. The way they suck up to his worshippers while mostly ignoring the “Blue Wave” voters after 2018 reinforces my belief.

  29. 29.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 7:23 am

    My journey into the dark, hypnotic world of a millennial guru

    Bentinho’s ascent as an online spiritual teacher began in 2010. The fresh-faced 21-year-old had recently returned to his native Holland after a half-year “spiritual voyage” in India. There, in an abandoned ashram on the outskirts of Rishikesh, he experienced what he would later refer to as an “awakening”, a spiritual experience where the duality between the self and the universe dissolves into cosmic oneness.

    Convinced he could guide others towards this euphoria, Bentinho was overcome by an evangelical impulse. From his parents’ house in a middle-class suburb outside Amsterdam, he began recording spiritual sermons and uploading them to YouTube. In one of these early videos, entitled “What is Bliss?”, Bentinho films himself walking down a country road, flanked by green pastures and farmyard cottages. For the first eight seconds he stares into the camera, smiling.

    “When the mind starts to realize that its very nature is freedom itself,” he says, voice quavering as if he is about to start laughing or crying, it’s hard to tell, “then the inevitable response of the mind, or you could say of the body, is bliss.”

    Along with YouTube videos, Bentinho launched a website and a Facebook page to connect with a community of seekers, many of whom belonged to an earlier generation of New Age spirituality. For them, Bentinho’s youthful energy was rousing – he was a “digitally native” spiritual teacher who could use social media to spread wisdom to new frontiers.
    ………………………………..
    Towards the end of 2017, Bentinho Massaro, a 29-year-old self-styled spiritual teacher with a considerable online following, chose the town of Sedona, Arizona as the location for a 12-day long spiritual bootcamp. Among the red sandstone cliffs that rise like temples from the desert floor, the blond-haired, blue-eyed Dutchman offered to guide his most dedicated adherents towards communion with a higher life force, or in his words, “the absolute truth of the one infinite creator”.

    For those who could afford the $1,199 ticket, this would be achieved through group meditation, self-inquiry and grape juice cleanse fasting. For those who couldn’t, enlightenment would be available for a reduced price online via livestream.

    Over the preceding seven years, Bentinho had built a near half-million strong following on the internet. On YouTube (86,000 subscribers), he uploaded lengthy “third eye power” meditations to help followers “activate their pineal gland”. On Facebook (300,000 followers), he offered advice on how to maintain intimate and empowering relationships. His Instagram feed (32,000 followers) rendered a “super accelerated” lifestyle of adventure sports, international travel, and cigar smoking.

    The Sedona Experiment II, as the retreat was called, was set to be an intense distillation of Bentinho’s most profound teachings.

    Many years ago I had all my feelings surgically removed (the quack missed one, I ain’t telling you guys where it is cause you’ll all start poking at it) I should’ve had her remove my conscience at the same time.

  30. 30.

    Shalimar

    January 9, 2020 at 7:25 am

    @Baud: Only the one issue where they were critical of Clinton?  And it was press conferences?  Someone in the press should write an e-mail about that.

  31. 31.

    Msb

    January 9, 2020 at 7:26 am

    I’d like to grow up to be like any of these women.

  32. 32.

    rikyrah

    January 9, 2020 at 7:31 am

     

    Adam Serwer? (@AdamSerwer) Tweeted:
    US “nationalists” seem to not understand that other countries also have nationalisms and hardliners who use external threats to marginalize their critics and consolidate power. They don’t get it because pride makes them lie to themselves about why their opposition exists. https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer/status/1214673428210434056?s=20

  33. 33.

    rikyrah

    January 9, 2020 at 7:31 am

     

    Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) Tweeted:
    As Predicted: Trump just wants an agreement that undoes what Obama did. His racism knows no bounds. https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/status/1214949497937240069?s=20

  34. 34.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 7:32 am

    Now the speculation is that Iran might have shot down their own plane accidentally. Yikes!

  35. 35.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 7:36 am

    @rikyrah:

    That’s wrong. Our “nationalists” know and want to trigger and empower other countries’ right wing nationalists.

  36. 36.

    rikyrah

    January 9, 2020 at 7:38 am

    Teena Marie
    Bobby Caldwell
    Average White Band( I didn’t know what AWB stood for ?)
    And, when Holiday first came out-Madonna

    Who are the white singers that if you just heard their voice you’d think they’re black? pic.twitter.com/GBIZm34qQr— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) January 9, 2020

  37. 37.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 7:39 am

    Pence was on Today show today and Bernie is on tomorrow.  Not a good way to end the week.

  38. 38.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 7:43 am

    Daniel Radosh‏ @danielradosh

    Hey man, I’m a Democrat who hopes the Republicans pick a candidate I can vote for, but it’s weird how only one of us gets op-ed space for our nonsense

     

    ETA:

    Daniel Radosh
    ‏ @danielradosh

    “Trump is an incredibly risky candidate who is hated by more than half the country & has proven himself a terrible president, and Republicans should nominate someone more palatable to mainstream voters” is a 100% sound argument that has somehow never once appeared in print.

    Daniel Radosh
    ‏ @danielradosh

    But sure, let’s get another Republican advising the Democrats to nominate someone they like since their own party is so completely fucked up that the idea of them nominating someone who isn’t a horror show is literally inconceivable. fuck outta here.

  39. 39.

    Betty Cracker

    January 9, 2020 at 7:46 am

    @rikyrah: I was this many years old when I found out Bobby Caldwell is a white dude.

  40. 40.

    Alien Radio

    January 9, 2020 at 7:47 am

    Someone from the press corp ask questions about Latveria and The trump administration’s position on Vladimir’s relationship to it’s ruler,  and whether the secretary of state had expects that to Improve the situation in  Trans-Carpathia, or whether he thinks de-escalating With Iran now would prevent Rohan Riding in support?

  41. 41.

    Amir Khalid

    January 9, 2020 at 7:55 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I’m reminded of Dr. Sócrates, the Brazilian sporting legend, author, and activist who qualified as a physician while playing for  top Brazilian football club Corinthians.

  42. 42.

    artem1s

    January 9, 2020 at 7:58 am

    @gene108:

    Yet the media still never took him seriously as a candidate.

    could be argued the media were the only ones taking him seriously.  But it’s probably more realistic to say they took him seriously as far as ad revenue was concerned.  No one wanted JEB on their air – he was probably an angel of death when it came to viewer hits. The polls reflected what people saw in the media.  Sorry, but Rachel Maddow should have never given Trump or Wilmer so much free airtime.  And these debates have been a disaster. The media is only concerned about how entertaining the whole thing is, not whether any candidate is qualified or electable.  In a sane world, Harris would be at the top of the interview list, but the media are all “yawn, AA candidate, been there, done that – yuck wimmenz! – where are the yelling white menz?”

  43. 43.

    gene108

    January 9, 2020 at 8:03 am

    @Soprano2:

    The way they suck up to his worshippers while mostly ignoring the “Blue Wave” voters after 2018 reinforces my belief.

    Hell with 2018.

    It’s the way they disregarded Hillary voters after 2016.

    There 3 million more of us, than Trump voters, but it’s like we didn’t exist. Democrats, for the second time in 16 years, won the popular vote, but lost the EC, by the thinnest of margins.

    Christ on a cracker, they just ignored us for the various Cletus safaris.

  44. 44.

    Ken

    January 9, 2020 at 8:04 am

    @TS (the original): It’s normalization. We saw that with the coverage of yesterday’s announcement, where the MSM ignored the 20 minute delay, the slurring, the appearance, etc.

    One of my impossible fantasies is for the next Democratic president to mimic that behavior, then call out the press when they start Seriously Asking “Is the President impaired”.

  45. 45.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 8:05 am

    @Amir Khalid: Heh:

    However, he was equally notorious for not being particularly hard-working or disciplined in his personal life, as he smoked and drank large quantities of beer, once commenting:“I am an anti-athlete. I cannot deny myself certain lapses from the strict regime of a sportsman. You have to take me as I am.”

  46. 46.

    raven

    January 9, 2020 at 8:06 am

    @rikyrah: Eliot Lewis of the Live from Daryl’s House was in AWB. I never thought of Hall and Oates as a “soul band” until I started watching that show. Check em out with Smokey doing Sara Smiles/OOO Baby Baby.

  47. 47.

    Immanentize

    January 9, 2020 at 8:08 am

    @rikyrah:

    @Betty Cracker:  Last year, I had that same experience with George Ezra.  I heard his song “Shotgun” on WERS many times and understood he was black.  Then I pulled up the song on youtube….

    Shotgun is a really great summer jam

  48. 48.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 8:08 am

    @Ken: Why wait? Do it as a candidate.

  49. 49.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 8:13 am

    So Dence’s Iran speech on Monday has been postponed? I wonder what happened.

  50. 50.

    Immanentize

    January 9, 2020 at 8:15 am

    @raven: Never saw that before.  Sweet.  Smokie’s voice was so fine.

  51. 51.

    germy

    January 9, 2020 at 8:15 am

    Fox News host attacks other news networks by saying "they teach you in journalism school not to repeat or report government propaganda" pic.twitter.com/bUMGSI6WmP
    — Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) January 8, 2020

  52. 52.

    Immanentize

    January 9, 2020 at 8:19 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: My theory is that they were putting Pence out so Trump wouldn’t have to do it.  But because Trump was forced to make his barstool drool yesterday, they are cancelling it because all that could happen would be that Pence would somehow contradict Trump.

    Why do I keep thinking of Woody Allen’s “Sleeper?” “Save the nose!”

  53. 53.

    germy

    January 9, 2020 at 8:21 am

    The Los Angeles local TV anchor said in an interview that President Donald Trump once phoned her and called her “the hottest one at Fox News” and then allegedly said: “You should come up to my office sometime, so we can kiss.” https://t.co/vQQeck0LZ9— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) January 9, 2020

  54. 54.

    Ken

    January 9, 2020 at 8:21 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Trump will instead announce Pence has been fired, and Ivanka and Jared will be sharing the post of vice-president.

  55. 55.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 8:21 am

    @germy:

    Good thing for Fox that their people didn’t go to journalism school.

  56. 56.

    Betty Cracker

    January 9, 2020 at 8:22 am

    @Baud: What an awful tragedy. It did seem unlikely that the timing was just a coincidence.

  57. 57.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 8:25 am

    @Immanentize: I didn’t watch trump’s, I never do, but from what I’ve read most are like “He’s getting worse.” and thought maybe they didn’t want anybody in control of all their faculties* (limited tho they are) following so soon after.

    FTR: Now that I think about it, I’m not sure I have ever actually heard Dence speak.

  58. 58.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 8:26 am

    @Ken: oooff, yeah, he’d do that.

  59. 59.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 8:28 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    He doesn’t speak. He speaks directly to your soul with his steely gaze.

  60. 60.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    January 9, 2020 at 8:30 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Also Trump hates sharing the spotlight. I can picture him saying, “I already took care of it with that dumb speech you made me give. Tell Mike to sit down.”

  61. 61.

    Ken

    January 9, 2020 at 8:30 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I’m not sure I have ever actually heard Dence speak.

    In American Gods, there was a god of finance with the power that no one could remember his appearance.  You could look at him for a ten minute conversation, but the second you turned away you would forget his face.

    Pence may have a related ability, possibly as the god of whitebread boredom.

  62. 62.

    chopper

    January 9, 2020 at 8:38 am

    @rikyrah:

    rick astley, of course

  63. 63.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 8:38 am

    The Nib✒️‏Verified account @thenib

    If Iran killed one of our generals instead…

  64. 64.

    hueyplong

    January 9, 2020 at 8:41 am

    @rikyrah: Tony Joe White, doing Poke Salad Annie.

  65. 65.

    Immanentize

    January 9, 2020 at 8:45 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: “Harry Potter World.”  snerk.

  66. 66.

    Gin & Tonic, Duke of Tanqueray

    January 9, 2020 at 8:48 am

    @Baud: It wasn’t “their own” plane. It was Ukraine’s.

  67. 67.

    Baud

    January 9, 2020 at 8:49 am

    @Gin & Tonic, Duke of Tanqueray:

    Thanks. For some reason, I thought it was Iranian Airlines or whatever they call their national airline.

  68. 68.

    Immanentize

    January 9, 2020 at 8:49 am

    @Gin & Tonic, Duke of Tanqueray: I like the expanded nym.

  69. 69.

    Immanentize

    January 9, 2020 at 8:50 am

    @Gin & Tonic, Duke of Tanqueray: So what is the scuttlebutt in Ukraine about the disaster?

  70. 70.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 9:00 am

    Explain yourself, I asked readers who are indignant about President Donald Trump’s impeachment shortly before the holiday break. I wasn’t asking merely for a defense of Trump, but for an honest illumination of what defenders would think if the essential facts in the Ukraine matter were the same except for one — Hillary Clinton were president.

    Several hundred people sent emails, the majority of them thoughtfully composed and accepting the invitation in good faith. This was a vivid window into the Age of Trump.

    With sincerity, candor, and even a measure of wistful idealism, people shared their views of a political and media culture they believe is cynical at its core. If almost nothing is on the level, almost anything goes.

    For Keith Swartz, who is 66 years old and runs a recruiting firm based in Tacoma, almost anything includes a president he regards as “manic, uneducated, illogical,” and also “essentially a horrible person….vulgar, amoral, narcissistic.”

    Wait, this a defense of Trump? Yes, hang on. He’s done a fine job on the economy, in particular, in the face of a Democratic opposition that has bent rules and abused process for three years in an implacable bid to thwart him. “To those of us who support what he has accomplished,” Swartz concluded, “it feels like he is our O.J.”

    That’s right: O.J. Simpson, not previously a conservative hero. In his 2016 promises to “Make America Great Again,” Trump did not invoke the racially riven Los Angeles of the 1990s as his model. But Swartz’s admirably forthright comparison—with biased media and unscrupulous Democrats serving as proxies for racist cops—captured the spirit of many replies.

    WASF.

  71. 71.

    Gin & Tonic, Duke of Tanqueray

    January 9, 2020 at 9:01 am

    @Immanentize: Mistermix bestowed the title in a thread about British royalty yesterday.

    Slavs love conspiracy theories. Some are saying they saw Russian missile fragments in some of the crash site photos (Iran uses Russian equipment). I’m traveling right now, so a bit harder to follow this than usual.

  72. 72.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 9, 2020 at 9:08 am

    Via Soonergrunt:

    XVIII Airborne Corps‏Verified account @18airbornecorps

    1 of 15: WE ARE ALL JEWS: THE STORY OF RODDIE EDMONDS

    One of the most moving and relevant stories of the Battle of the Bulge is that of Master Sergeant Roddie Edmonds, a Knoxville, Tennessee native, who served with the 106th Infantry Division.

  73. 73.

    CarolPW

    January 9, 2020 at 9:09 am

    @rikyrah:

    Tony Joe White.

  74. 74.

    Immanentize

    January 9, 2020 at 9:54 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: My great uncle who was just a few years older than my Dad was captured at the Bulge and sent to Stalag IXb.  It was hell for Bits and Americans.  Death for Russians and others.  The story of the exportation of G.I.s to a slave camp in the East is one I am still tracking down…. My Uncle may have been among those who looked Jewish or had Jewish sounding names. He drank himself dead, so I can’t ask him.

  75. 75.

    raven

    January 9, 2020 at 12:14 pm

    @Immanentize: I was at a funeral in Chicago last week an got to talking to an old friend. He told me the story of his dad, Nathan Glasdstein 66th Armored Regiment, 2d Armored Division at the Battle of the Bulge. His tank was stuck and the crew was going to surrender and he said “Fuck you, I’m Jewish and I’m not surrendering to anyone”. He jumped on the turret, turned the main gun and knocked out two Panzers!

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