But… but… I was told there was a whole Uranium One thing.
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) January 10, 2020
To the surprise of no one, not even the GOP partisans who pushed for the investigation in the first place.
If Bill Barr were capable of shame, he’d be ashamed of himself.
Justice Dept. winds down Clinton-related inquiry once championed by Trump. It found nothing of consequence. https://t.co/jNXhQJMN2A
— Devlin Barrett (@DevlinBarrett) January 9, 2020
"Nothing." This appropriate result still doesn't erase the unforgivable sin that AG Sessions committed by opening a criminal investigation to please the president. DOJ is not a tool for presidents to use against people they think are their enemies. https://t.co/XZq9LGXS0M
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) January 10, 2020
.@HillaryClinton must be the most scrutinized person in American. Yet I still hear people saying they don’t like because of “you know, all that stuff she’s done.” No, I don’t. Quit it.
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) January 10, 2020
Is there an over under yet on how long it takes for Trump to demand that Barr retract this finding?
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) January 10, 2020
Bill Barr suggesting, prior to his confirmation, that there was more reason to investigate Uranium One than Russia was the first sign of the extent to which his brain had become addled by Fox News conspiracy theories. https://t.co/DFvonNhHE3
— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) January 10, 2020
Speaking of people who should be ashamed of themselves, Mr. Baquet…
Hoping for front page NYT coverage of this. https://t.co/zu1PeY57v2
— Neera Tanden (@neeratanden) January 10, 2020
Thus ends a vicious attack on the American nonprofit sector by white nationalists, Putin, and his proxy in the White House. Shame – deep, lasting, indelible shame – on "legitimate" media that went along with attempted take-down of the Clinton Foundation. https://t.co/fySQzGeQom
— Tom Watson (@tomwatson) January 10, 2020
Baud
As I mentioned in the last thread, Rachel used his story to call out the NYT for their entire coverage of EMAILS!
It was great to see BJ conversation come to life on the TV.
Frankensteinbeck
Awhile back a story came out that almost immediately upon becoming president Trump told the DoJ to arrest Obama and Hillary, and they told him no.
Jeffro
It was always a conversation/email-stopper, asking RWNJ Dad-O-Mine why the GOP didn’t nail Hillz to the wall during those first two years when they had the WH, House, Senate.
Uranium One!
Clinton Foundation!
heck, Vince Foster!
Unsurprisingly, he changed the subject every time. Hard to admit you got suckered, I guess.
Related to Uranium One, Hillz conspiracies, etc: it’s a little inside-baseball-y, but someone in the media should report on just how Fox News-nutty 98% of the GOP Reps and Senators are. I think the percentage of them living in a fact-free wingnutosphere is actually even higher than the percentage of GOP voters who believe all this crazy shit.
Barely. But still.
Keith P
@Baud: Yeah, I caught that, too. I just wish she’d had someone from the NYT on to answer for it (maybe she did, later, but I can’t get through more that 20-30 minutes of Maddow)
Biff Longbotham
One of the worst insults in Spanish culture is to be called a “sinvergüenza”, literally one without shame. A person with no honor. Barr wears this title nicely.
randy khan
Well, this is a definite Department of No Surprise moment.
I mean, I guess the surprise is that there wasn’t some kind of statement about troubling penumbras of potential conflicts of suspicions.
Baud
@Keith P:
She didn’t.
Baud
@Frankensteinbeck:
I wish the motherfucker had.
John Revolta
New rule: if there’s an investigation that finds nothing, the fuckers who voted for the investigation get to pay for it. All in favor?
Baud
@John Revolta:
Disagree. I vote we lock them up.
chris
Ruckus
Anyone else unable to open twitter?
Brachiator
Did anyone ask Barr to comment on the outcome of this failed witch hunt, uh, I mean, investigation?
Ruckus
@Brachiator:
Really, why would anyone bother?
He’d just fucking lie like every other time he opens his yap.
dr. bloor
Given that the most charitable headline they’d run would be along the lines of “Prosecutor fails to find sufficient evidence to indict Hillary,” I’m not sure that’s something to wish for.
Kelly
Packing the courts next time we can isn’t enough. Here’s a proposal to pack the union. I found the article very readable. I’m not optimistic this would ever be implemented but it illustrates how we got to here and it’s gonna be hard to fix.
https://harvardlawreview.org/2020/01/pack-the-union-a-proposal-to-admit-new-states-for-the-purpose-of-amending-the-constitution-to-ensure-equal-representation/
Brachiator
@Ruckus:
I would like to get the lie on the record.
TS (the original)
@Baud:
I doubt it was through lack of trying. Shame she didn’t attack MJ as well – he still brings up the Clintons for his both sides discussions.
jl
@Kelly: I favor just giving Puerto Rico and other territories popular and electoral college votes in presidential elections.
IIRC, the Supreme Court case that denied them the vote said there was no constitutional problem with it. I think the decision rested on racist reasoning that the people there were primitives, and not ready for the responsibility of voting in federal elections.
Most of them should eventually be admitted as states anyway, if their populations want that. Might as well get that chore out of the way asap after politcally feasible.
jl
@Baud: An advantage of a Baud 2020! administration is that the idea of Baudists being able to do anything in particular is so ridiculous, would never get an investigation, bogus or not, off the ground.
debbie
Is this the last of the investigations? Are we left with only conspiracy theories?
debbie
@John Revolta:
The right kind of tort reform!
jl
@debbie: Probably have plenty of conspiracy theories about investigations. Is that good enough?
Mary G
Iran has admitted shooting down the Ukrainian Airline plane:
Good for them.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Mary G: How utterly horrible and tragic, and I doubt the present US administration would ever have the decency or balls to do the same if it were at fault in a similar situation.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@debbie: there’s still that Connecticut AG who’s investigation the oranges of the Mueller investigation, as far as I understand it, John Durham, google reminds me. Beltway/twitter gossip is they’ve zeroed in on John Brennan, Obama’s acting head of CIA and loud trump critic.
I’d bet all the quatloos that Durham will pull a Comey, announce very dramatically that in spite of many irregularities and troubling (oh, so troubling) questions, he finds no evidence that would support an indictment. And your crazy RW uncle will become convinced that Brennan is Benedict Arnold, both Rosenbergs, Emmanuel Goldstein and Barack HUSSEIN Obama rolled into one monster under his craftmatic. With the real world part that will cost Brennan several tens of thousands in legal fees and intimidate future whistle-blowers.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Mary G:
Glad they admitted it. Now, will Trump et al try to war it up?
West of the Rockies
@Ruckus:
Why, you ask? To make him face his failure, to annoy him, to make him taste the bile in his guts…
Mary G
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: That’s what I thought. Our administration would deny it even if they were caught on film.
Gin & Tonic
@Mary G: Too bad Russia hasn’t done a similar thing and admitted its culpability with respect to MH 17.
John Revolta
@Baud: Great. Stick the taxpayers TWICE!
Martin
@Gin & Tonic: And too bad we’re still denying that we had entered Iranian waters before we shot down Iran Air 655.
Eljai
I was alive in the 90s, so I have a distinct sense of deja vu. Our media really does have a history of creating breathless news coverage out of republican lies.
sdhays
@Keith P: Didn’t Baquet ban FTFNYT reporters from the nasty lesbians’s liberal’s show? I seem to recall hearing that.
Frankensteinbeck
@Baud:
My strong suspicion is that they didn’t tell Trump they won’t, they told Trump they can’t. Federal judges are often difficult and in high profile cases insist on a specific crime being prosecuted with some slight shred of evidence that it happened. Shouting “Emails!” and “He was born in Kenya!” do not satisfy them. Not even if you submit them on nice DoJ letterhead. I do not envy whoever in the Administration had to explain that to a toxic narcissist.
sdhays
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I expect them to ignore this finding and continue to accuse her. It’s what they do.
patrick II
Rachel also commented that, as of her airtime, the Times still don’t have a story about clearing Hillary. I just checked at 11:49pm est and if they have reported it, it is well hidden.
Frankensteinbeck
Addendum: This is going to piss off Trump a great deal, because he knows that Hillary is guilty. It’s a fundamental way toxic narcissists think. He hates her, so she is guilty of crimes. Any action she took against him must be illegal. Because he knows this, he knows that the evidence exists to prove she committed crimes against him. If the investigation failed, it can’t be because there was nothing to find. It must be conspiracy or incompetence or both.
dww44
@Mary G: Earlier this evening my spouse said that Trump does have blood on his hands for the accidental Iranian shoot down of the Ukranian Airliner. I agree with him. He and his yes men set off the chain of events that led to this tragic loss of life. Those were some beautiful young lives that were snuffed out in the downing of that plane. It will be interesting to see (after today’s remarks by Pompeo and Mnuchin, et al) what line Trump will take on this.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Imagine the media hysteria if Obama had ordered Mittens investigated after the election.
debbie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I’m reminded Durham is investigating the Russia investigation. Not sure how they can connect Brennan to that, but I’m sure Rudi’s on it. The link also reminds me Miss Lindsey working on his own investigation. Oy.
Gin & Tonic
@dww44: Ukraine just can’t catch a fucking break.
Frankensteinbeck
@dww44:
A predictable chain. Accidents like this are a known risk of attacks like the one that killed Suleimani. Warnings that civilian airplanes can get caught in the crossfire of whatever happens next are standard in the briefing. Reportedly, Trump dismissed all warnings claiming that Iran would not strike back. Yes, he has blood on his hands.
Barbara
@patrick II: I thought they reported yesterday but I could be wrong.
Martin
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Imagine the hysteria if a dem wins in 2020 and orders Trump’s investigation.
Ruckus
@Brachiator:
I agree but it’s not like we don’t have more than enough lies from every single trump hire.
Mandalay
Here’s a pleasant surprise:
The request will go nowhere of course, but that may leave the British Government with a nasty taste in its mouth for any pending US extradition requests from Britain.
Mandalay
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice:
Few would accuse Bush One a being a visionary leader, but even Trump would have to tip his hat to this knuckle dragging statement back in 1988…
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Frankensteinbeck:
And so does everybody else who voted for him in 2016, knowing full well what he was (“We gotta bomb the hell out of them”, anyone?)
“It was Hitlery’s mind control powers! She wiped the minds of the investigators and witnesses! Quick, get Barr on the phone! I want Mulder and Scully on the case!”
“Um, sir, The X-Files isn’t real.
[Trump proceeds to scream at the poor aide and has to be sedated with Xanax by the White House Medical Unit staff]
West of the Rockies
@dww44:
Surely, you know Trump will declare himself exonerated and pretty, oh, so pretty, and the Iranians very bad hombres.
SDinCO
@John Revolta: Aye
My Side of Town
Supposedly, Pelosi wants to hold a vote on when, whether the impeachment articles go to the senate. Question is, how do representatives vote? Particularly GOPs?
My Side of Town
@My Side of Town: If Repubs vote to release the articles to the senate and the Dems do too, that could be construed to be bipartisan impeachment, right?
My Side of Town
@My Side of Town: If Repubs vote not to release the articles, that could be construed to mean they want to delay it.
Jay Noble
@Martin: They won’t have to start any investigations. They’ll be able to go full steam ahead with all the ones he’s been blocking.
Martin
@Jay Noble: Yeah, if Trump loses in November, the House is gonna be lit in the weeks before the inauguration.
My Side of Town
@My Side of Town: Pelosi’s statement:
“I have asked Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler to be prepared to bring to the Floor next week a resolution to appoint managers and transmit articles of impeachment to the Senate,” Pelosi wrote in a letter to her caucus. “I will be consulting with you at our Tuesday House Democratic Caucus meeting on how we proceed further.”
hervevillechaizelounge
@Martin:
Imagine the hysteria if a dem wins in 2020 and orders Trump’s investigation
I wish more people would talk about this. We’ve been boxed into a corner; if a democrat does manage to win in 2020 the right AND the media will lose their damn minds if he or she attempts to investigate any republican malfeasance.
And I try not to be a negative Nelly but does anyone doubt Barr and his minions will eventually begin manufacturing evidence? Eventually the pool of sane folks at the DOJ will be depleted and I fear what happens then—the current crop of rightwingers have no ethics and no honor.
opiejeanne
@hervevillechaizelounge: If a Democrat becomes the President, doesn’t Barr lose his job? Doesn’t he serve at the pleasure of the President?
I think once the election is over they’ll be scuttling for the exits, not manufacturing crappy lies.
Jim
Ah , Hillary was *supposed* to have nicked Uranium1 , but the Orange Balloon nicked Uranium-2 out of Afghanistan .
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@hervevillechaizelounge: Seems like Barr has given the Dems a cogent response, to wit: the Republican AG investigated the last Democratic candidate for three years after the election, so for the next next three years why don’t you in the media eat a big bag of STFU about how these investigations are divisive, and the country needs to come together, or we must look forwards not back, etc.
droog
If you see a copy of Clinton Cash on your bookstore you are OK to move it to the Fantasy section. So says the DoJ.
Mart
Thread is dead but years back I did a deep dive into Uranium 1. A small US mine owned by a Canadian company holding a lot of Kazickstan reserves that a Russian company wanted. Lot cheaper to mine there than here. There were the nine agency signatures and other stuff pointing to the story being absurd; but not being able to pull the mined uranium out of the country without approval, and the fact that Uranium 1 produced something like 0.0001% of the world’s mined uranium made me wonder how any respectable news outlet would amplify this nonsense.