As some of you may have noticed, the President has taken to displaying a map of his unspeakably huge electoral victory.
Spotted on the resolute desk in the Oval Office during the President’s event on school prayer: a map of 2016 election results by county pic.twitter.com/28mgWtGSyz
— Betsy Klein (@betsy_klein) January 16, 2020
That map of counties he won sitting on the Resolute Desk has been a talisman since soon after Sessions recused from the Russia probe. He started handing them out to people shortly before Mueller was named; aides got the first large one to frame the day after Comey was fired. https://t.co/uMWip7u6gX
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 17, 2020
What I didn’t know until yesterday is, it’s not even a map of his election!
Right, has anyone figured out which map that actually is?
As Parker’s noted, Alaska is an obvious giveaway it’s not 2016. https://t.co/fZk1PmPpJo
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) January 17, 2020
What year is that? Alaska is a state, and Republicans won big. That leaves the following possibilities: 1972 1980 1984 1988. My guess is 1984, because it’s so extreme.
Now, why is @realDonaldTrump such a fan of the 1984 election?? https://t.co/1Dnshzr77R
— Sam Wang (@SamWangPhD) January 17, 2020
Obviously a county map is stupid anyway–land doesn’t vote!–but good lord.
Open thread! Anybody got exciting plans for the long weekend? I’m seeing Weathering With You tomorrow, which I’m looking forward to. Aside from that, I’ll probably be binging The Expanse, and playing the Metal Gear Solid 2 remaster I just bought.
catclub
“Breaking” or “Broken”?
Baud
Honestly, Bloomberg and Steyer should distribute net worth chart. The best thing those two could do at this point is troll Trump.
Adam L Silverman
As long as the Electoral College exists, land votes. Forget that fact and ignore that reality at your peril.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: electoral votes are, needless to say, apportioned by population. The senate is perhaps evidence that land votes.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: TV ads with Bloomberg and Steyer repeating in unison “I’m actually really rich.”
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: Yes, please explain how America’s electoral system works to the guy with the PhD in political science. Perhaps you’d like to explain insurgency to me as well?
West of the Rockies
I took my daughter to Weathering With You a couple nights ago. It has beautiful animation, engaging characters, a compelling story with a few plot weaknesses.
Citizen Alan
I was amused last week when someone posted a map of those counties which supplied the top half the nation’s GDP and those that supplied the bottom half. Unsurprisingly, that map tracks the blue/red electoral maps almost perfectly. Tiny blue areas where all the money is made that have to subsidize the shiftless layabouts in red that make up most of the country.
mrmoshpotato
Wow. This is some next level batshittery. I think I need to take a break for my health.
Hey, we haven’t had a ducks and doggos post in a while. ?
Marcopolo
So I just read Beto has decided to dedicate 2020 to helping D’s retake the Texas state lege (I’d post a link but the new blog seems to dislike—extremely—that I have not upgraded my IOS like ever).
Anyways, good for Beto & I am wishing him (and TX D’s) all the success in the world in this endeavor.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: what fucking ever.
Brachiator
Why is there a school prayer event at the White House?
Man, talk about sucking up to the evangelicals.
Let’s see. Plans. I also need to catch up on The Expanse. I really enjoyed past seasons. But I need to clear some room for the upcoming Star Trek: Picard.
I also want to try to get out and squeeze in a movie. Last week I saw Knives Out, which turned out to be delicious. I really liked much of the acting. Yeah, there is scenery chewing. But I liked how, for example, Michael Shannon convincingly played someone who was essentially insecure and weak. And Daniel Craig a Benoit Blanc was a hoot. I won’t say more, in case there are folks here who might be inclined to want to check it out.
scav
I’m surprised his acolyte “somebody” hasn’t reverently told him that exact map was on the cover of Time as Map of the Year.
Cermet
@Major Major Major Major: No; not land – slaves; that was the rationingal for the senate.
Ruckus
@Adam L Silverman:
Wasn’t land ownership one of the major issues for voting as the country was being formed? That many of the men in the room didn’t want anyone but landowners to vote? Because they were landowners and wanted full control, and not the people that worked for them for pennies. Or nothing.
CaseyL
For anyone who’s keeping track and remembers that I was laid off from a job I loved in mid-December, I have found a new job, back at the University where I worked before, thus hopscotching between institutions of higher education. Which suits me just fine, thanks (actually, I am pretty damn excited).
This weekend may be a minor shopping spree, as my new job has a somewhat more formal dress code than the previous one. I’m hoping Business Casual is as formal as I need to get!
Marcopolo
@Adam L Silverman: Let me take a stab at it: insurgency is the opposite of outpatient surgency. Am I right? What’s my prize?
Baud
@CaseyL: Congrats!
Another Scott
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/17/trump-brings-another-dodgy-map-into-oval-office/
In the meantime, everyone’s talking about Donnie. Yet again…
Cheers,
Scott.
Adam L Silverman
@Ruckus: Correct. White male property owners.
Cermet
Not for votes but to prevent populated Northerners from controlling the government. Of course, the 3/5 rule was exactly that.
Yutsano
OMG yes binge The Expanse! I just got myself caught up and oh man it’s a ride but it’s worth it!
Adam L Silverman
@CaseyL: Congratulations!
Roger Moore
I think some people looked at the map he loves using and figured out it was a map from election night 2016, when there were still a lot of absentee and early votes left to be counted. So it’s not just that he’s exaggerating his win by showing all those empty red spaces; he’s also exaggerating it by showing a lot of places as red when they were actually blue when all the votes were in.
SFAW
@Marcopolo:
Now who can argue with THAT?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
So Trump is such a twat he has to jack one of Reagan’s elections. Lovely. “Trump, he just like the Gipper, just not as likable or as smart…”
The problem with the whole issue of disinformation is these people are gas-lighting themselves.
Major Major Major Major
@Yutsano: my husband found out today that my computer background is always the NASA Picture of the Day and was like, “I didn’t know you were such a space nerd!”
Hon… half of all my activities this last year must have been reading, writing, playing, or watching space opera…
oatler.
@Citizen Alan:
right on
JPL
@CaseyL: Congrats!
Major Major Major Major
@CaseyL: congrats!! ???
Amir Khalid
@Adam L Silverman:
Whoa, dude. Steady on.
Wapiti
@Major Major Major Major: I was actually surprised by this. I believed that the presence of the senators in the count of electors might be big enough to sway the EC numbers. But even if we had one representative per 30,000 pop (per the original Constitution), 2016 would have still gone to Trump, since the EC is winner-take-all for each state (with a couple exceptions). Electors are proportionately divided, but the winner-take-all rules mean that their votes are not proportional.
Yutsano
@CaseyL: MAZEL TOV SWEETIE!!!
West of the Rockies
@CaseyL:
Show up, day 1, in a tuxedo! Like a boss!
Seriously though, congratulations!
Brachiator
@CaseyL:
Congratulations on the new job!
Major Major Major Major
@Wapiti: of course, but that’s far cry from “land votes”. If you made Wyoming a hundred times the size and filled it with bison it would get the same number of electors.
Roger Moore
@Cermet:
Not really. Slaves were the justification for the 3/5 compromise. The thing about the Senate was part of the “Great Compromise”. It was intended to give equal representation state by state, and it was originally favored by states that were small in both size and population. It still favors small but relatively dense states like Rhode Island, Vermont, and New Hampshire as much as it favors the big, low density states like Wyoming and Alaska. It’s just that there are more of the later than the former.
TomatoQueen
Congratulations CaseyL, glad tidings indeed
MattF
Alexandra Petri on what it could possibly take to convince her of… well, just about anything.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@mrmoshpotato:
Ya want ducks? Here ya go.
Gin & Tonic
@Marcopolo: Isn’t insurgency when an unshaven guy wearing camo and a keffiyeh takes out your appendix?
jl
@Major Major Major Major: I think his staff gave him whatever election map would please Trump the most to keep tantrums and blow-ups down to a tolerable level.
Trump has no clue, and is incapable of the slightest critical or common sense evaluation of whatever ridiculous junk they put in front of him. Incapable of going to the internet and spending less than a minute it would take to get correct information.
Trump can’t type ‘2016 presidential election map’ and wait a second to see the maps that come up, or figure out what they mean. Population based maps come up top of first page and image list in the search I just did.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@CaseyL:
Terrific news! Congrats.
John Revolta
I thought something was up with that map when I saw it again recently. I remember seeing the actual map after the election and this one is a lot redder, like on the East Coast for example.
Eric S.
@CaseyL: Congrats!
smintheus
@Roger Moore: If my memory is right, this is a map of some earlier election (not 2016) that one of Trump’s loons ‘corrected’ by changing some of the counties from blue to red in order to make it even less like the actual results of 2016.
WaterGirl
@Marcopolo: You can always paste in the raw link if you want.
What are you running?
WaterGirl
@CaseyL: That’s such great news!
If only you had known you could land a job just a month later, you might have been able to enjoy your month off a bit more. :-)
Crystal balls, where are they when we need them?
Kent
Which, of course is “technically true.” County level data is indeed not available in Alaska. But as a former Alaskan I can tell you that is because ALASKA DOESN’T HAVE COUNTIES. Alaska is divided into Boroughs. And there is most certainly Borough-level data on the 2016 election in Alaska as well as borough-level data for every single election for as long as records have been kept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Alask
FYI, the bright red blotch in the lower center is the Matanuska-Susitna Borough, home of Wasilla, which blessed us with Sara Palin.
clay
@Roger Moore: Yes, people forget where our name came from. The Constitution was for “we the people”, but it also required that thirteen discrete autonomous governments buy into the idea of federalism. So the House was for the people, and the Senate was for the States, specifically the state governments who would be relinquishing power.
Which is probably why the Senate is more powerful than the House, with influence over treaties, judges, and cabinet members. The States needed to feel important.
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: They say you are supposed to “keep them guessing”, so you must be doing something right. :-) You know, the air of mystery…
Searcher
There’s too much blue in California for 1984: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_presidential_election#/media/File:1984prescountymap2.PNG
trollhattan
@Adam L Silverman:
“Death Valley, CA, goes for Trump.”
–Wolf Blitzer, probably
WaterGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I think he might have meant calming ducks, but I could be wrong.
Adam L Silverman
@trollhattan: It that was Blitzer it should be in all caps because he doesn’t talk, he yells.
trollhattan
@Yutsano:
Having watched several episodes out of sequence I can heartily recommend not doing it like that. Confused doesn’t begin to describe.
However, a well-crafted show and nothing that seems unpossible, from a the-solar-system-we-actually-live-in perspective.
trollhattan
@Adam L Silverman:
HEH! :-)
Gin & Tonic
Are we US taxpayers footing the bill for Starr and Dershowitz now?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@CaseyL: Congrats.
Baud
@Yutsano:
I just started with season 1. Only a few episodes in.
Martin
@MattF: I think that is to miss the point. This isn’t about what one does or does not believe, but what is the cost of this belief over that one.
In a way, that’s how it’s always been. Believe in our god and we won’t slaughter you, or we’ll give you guns and blankets, or we won’t deport you.
It’s not that the GOP doesn’t believe that he’s guilty, it’s that such a belief is vastly more expensive than believing he’s innocent. It’s willful ignorance based on who is more likely to punish them – Trump and his voters or Democrats and Independents.
Searcher
Disappointingly, if I had to guess, it’s just the map from Metrocosm that for some reason doesn’t include Alaskan counties.
(Incidentally, this is the first result which comes up if you search for “2016 election results by county”, with the addition of a legend and the removal of the watermark in the lower right-hand corner.)
Mary G
Just saw this from yesterday:
Still in the #KHive, even if she’s not going to be president this year.
Roger Moore
@Ruckus:
It wasn’t strictly limited to landowners. The Framers mostly wanted voting limited to men of means, but what exactly constituted “of means” wasn’t clear. Most states had property restrictions on voting, but the dollar amount varied from place to place. Some states used total wealth rather than land value as their benchmark. New Jersey even allowed women who owned property in their own right to vote.
I suspect it was that widely differing view of who should be allowed to vote that led to the use of the Electoral College rather than the issue of slavery specifically. You can’t have a sensible national popular election if voter qualifications vary radically from state to state, and trying would push states to broaden the franchise so they’d have the greatest possible say in the presidential election.
Baud
@smintheus:
Seems easier to just use a sharpie.
Professor Bigfoot
I’d guess 1980, for the same reason that candidate launched his campaign in Neshoba County Mississippi on a platform of “state’s rights,” while villifying “welfare queens” and “strapping young bucks buying t-bones with food stamps.”
CaseyL
Thanks for the good wishes, everyone! Being gainfully employed again means I’ll be able to contribute some more, to candidates and causes.
Kirk Spencer
@CaseyL: Yay! Good for you.
The Dangerman
Are we sure Trump didn’t draw in Alaska with a very red Sharpie? If we see California cut off by a pair of scissors, we can be sure his staff is giving him lots of Presidential Playtime, with that red sharpie, the scissors, and some Happy Meal toys.
i wonder what the Republicans do if Trump strokes out before the Convention. I don’t think Pence is an automatic, is he? After the convention, maybe, but, before, not so sure.
trollhattan
@Mary G:
She can spend her energy taking the fight to Moscow Mitch. Am 100% behind that, because the senate is a damn snakepit so long as the Rs run the joint.
Professor Bigfoot
@Yutsano: Another vote for The Expanse– and *the books are even more awesome.*
I love space opera where good ol’ Newtonian physics is *respected*!
Bill Arnold
Re the map on Trump’s desk, a little late here but D. Dale covered it a few months ago.
Fact checking Trump’s ‘Impeach this’ map (Holmes Lybrand and Daniel Dale, October 2, 2019)
It appears to date back to at least here:
Election Results in the Third Dimension (November 17, 2016)
and this is of interest re Alaska:
Alaska Results by County Equivalent, 1960-2016
Curiously, reverse image search engines are busted for me today, including tineye.com. I can’t look up the image on the metrocosm site. (Can anyone confirm? Might be VPN endpoint related.)
MJS
@Major Major Major Major: No, not “what fucking ever.” You are correct. Land does not vote, and anyone who believes that it does ignores reality at their own peril. Or maybe we should tell the Democratic nominee to let Trump have Maryland (42nd in land mass), Massachusetts (45th), and New Jersey (46th), with their total of 36 electoral votes, and we’ll take those big, yuge states of Montana (4th), Wyoming (9th) and Utah (12th), and bask in the knowledge that, while the Dem only got 12 electoral votes out of that swap, for a net loss of 24, we got way, way, more land.
zhena gogolia
@CaseyL:
Great!
Chyron HR
@Adam L Silverman:
“Yeah, the guy in the $50,000 suit is here to listen to your opinions about elections–COME ON!!!”
Duane
@Mary G: Out of all the primary candidates who won’t be the Presidential nominee, Sen. Harris is the one to watch. She’s going to get better and better.
OldDave
Random thoughts: I’ve seen two of the movies mentioned in the comments – “Weathering With You” and “Knives Out”. Both were easily worth the time and money invested.
On the Electoral College discussion – each state is apportioned electors equal to the number of Representatives plus two for the number of Senators. That means the population of smaller states has a larger influence per capita than larger states. It’s not a minor difference, either – it’s one electoral voter per 354,000 for Montana, one electoral voter per 734,000 for Florida
ETA: yeah, I’m not a fan of winner takes all.
Baud
@Professor Bigfoot:
I still want a holodeck.
Searcher
@Bill Arnold: Yeah, it’s kind of disappointing.
On the other hand, the narrative — beyond “Republicans think land is more important than people” — is “Old white guy unable to update his world view with more accurate information” (since this is basically the first county-level map published after the election, with some inaccuracies because many states hadn’t finished counting all their votes yet).
Adam L Silverman
@Chyron HR: M4 spent $50,000 on a suit? Well that changes everything!
Professor Bigfoot
@Baud: Urrrk, that’s EXACTLY what turned me completely off on TNG. It’s right up there with “shields” and the artificial gravity that ALWAYS WORKS, even if the ship has taken major damage… blech.
sdhays
@The Dangerman: Alaska looks like Alaska, and everything is actually within the lines, so he didn’t draw this by hand.
Baud
@Professor Bigfoot:
Dreams are more important than the laws of physics.
Professor Bigfoot
@Baud: But you still got my vote. ;)
sdhays
@Baud: Is that a new campaign slogan?
trollhattan
@Adam L Silverman:
It explains why he can’t afford a house.
Baud
@sdhays: It is now.
Professor Bigfoot
@Baud: If that’s the new campaign slogan, count me in!
BAUD2020!!
trollhattan
@Professor Bigfoot:
“Respect mah
autoritahgravatah!”–Noted physicist E. Cartman
Professor Bigfoot
@trollhattan: Thanks, I just spit all over my keyboard.
My invoice will be in the mail.
Baud
The Supreme Court will decide whether faithless electors can fuck us in the ass.
Chyron HR
@Adam L Silverman:
I see your doctoral program taught you all about the argumentative properties of rubber and glue. $500K well spent, then.
Marcopolo
@WaterGirl:My Iphone 6 says I am running 11.0.2. When I hit reply to comment I never actually see the text box in my initial view (sometimes I can scroll up to it but mostly not even that). I often do not see the visual/text tabs at all. Since this typically leaves me typing blind, I generally try to keep my comments short & hope that they appear the way that I am typing them. Generally (but not always), after I have submitted & refreshed I will see the edit comment command which usually does allow me to clean up any issues that occurred due to the blind typing.
Note: I am typing this comment on my computer which does not experience those types of issues & which also has a mouse which makes cutting & pasting stuff a hell of a lot easier.
Brachiator
@clay:
The states were sovereign entities. The shift to the notion of a United States was an interesting leap of political philosophical faith.
Similarly, if we ever moved to electing the president by popular vote, it would confirm a move toward a truly national government, with the states as lesser provinces of the national entity.
geg6
LOL on this entire post! Hilarious!
Except the very last paragraph, which is totally incomprehensible to me. I do not recognize a single thing you reference there, so I’m guessing it has to do with video games. The last one of those I played was Pong, some time back in the hazy days of the late 70s or early 80s.
Major Major Major Major
@Professor Bigfoot:
It’s totally okay not to like lighter space opera, but sci-fi is a big enough genre for all kinds!
Marcopolo
Err…mostly. And I would add that some of the earlier fastidiousness with physics seems to be going away in the later seasons. Did everyone else notice that in this current season no one seems to need crash couches & anti-G cocktails anymore when accelerating? That used to be a thing.
Zzyzx
@Baud: that’s my nightmare. If you’re Russia, that’s the easiest way to create chaos. Have a few dozen deep agents. Kidnap family members of a few more. Then watch as suddenly an election gets flipped months later and hardly anyone knows why.
Major Major Major Major
@geg6: Weathering With You is a new movie, and The Expanse is a teevee show, but yes, the thing I refer to as something you play is a video game :)
Baud
@Zzyzx:
Yep. Although I’m more worried Bernie people will be electors and hold us hostage to negotiate the Revolution.
Another reason to win big.
chris
@Professor Bigfoot: Seconded, the books are great. Show is pretty good too.
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
That would be completing the post-Civil War constitutional changes, which clearly subordinated the states to the Federal government in important ways, e.g. by applying the rights in the Bill of Rights to the states. One of the really egregious flaws of the Shelby County decision was that it ignored that. The 15th Amendment (and the 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments) clearly gives Congress the power to enforce voting rights, and Shelby County just blew it off.
Zzyzx
@Baud: there definitely was some of that in 2016 especially in my state. But it’s such an easy hack.
EmbraceYourInnerCrone
@CaseyL: congratulations! I am happy you found something good. I hope you love your new job. My daughter recently started a new job in a different path on her career and found she loved it. Rather than the old job which was just a grind I guess. Have a fun weekend!
Mo MacArbie
@Major Major Major Major: Rats, I was picturing tabletop.
EmbraceYourInnerCrone
@Yutsano: I love The Expanse ! I liked that they followed the actual laws of physics and space travel for the most part although the do use the proto molecule to hand wave some of the science fiction. I enjoyed the books although the one the current season and a based on was a bit of a slog for me.
cthulhu
After looking at a few maps of the past, I think the map may actually be 2000 (based on the counties in AZ/NM and MN). Which is interesting in that it is the next most recent election where the “winner” lost the popular vote. Makes me wonder if the person tasked with making the maps had a subversive streak. Basically any map of county results would have looked great to Trump so easy to slip it through.
EmbraceYourInnerCrone
@Marcopolo: yeah I noticed the lack of crash couches. I find it disappointing because I want space ships that actual have to balance the fragile squishy humans with the unforgiving nature of life in a vacuum/low G. The books even got into people having to go to moons that had some gravity to ensure a viable pregnancy.
Major Major Major Major
STOP POSTING EXPANSE SPOILERS
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Major Major Major Major: Yeesh, lower your voice – you scared my cat!
Major Major Major Major
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: good!
Groucho48
@OldDave:
and, thanks to the right, back a century ago, the numbers in the House have been basically frozen ever since, even as our population has doubled. Republicans have been trying to slant things for at least that long.
Ruckus
@Adam L Silverman:
I thought that first part was obvious, sorry…….
trollhattan
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice:
I have BRINKS TRUCKS of spoilers at the loading dock.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Major Major Major Major: Spoiler: the “mouse” he just found under the dishwasher is … a ball of cat hair. He can self-generate toys!
oldgold
Trump is not a big map guy.
“It’s not like you’ve got China on your border,” Trump told Modi, and the Indian premier’s eyes “bulged out in surprise”, Washington Post journalists Phillip Rucker and Carol Leonning report in A Very Stable Genius, according to the US newspaper.
J R in WV
@CaseyL:
Congratulations! Always good to get a new job so shortly after being laid off… and especially into a place where you have worked before.
I worked for an environmental protection agency for the largest bulk of my career, and many coworkers had issued uniforms to wear. Others wore just the shirt and jeans while out in the field.
So then eventually after we moved to a big new office building instead of being in tiny isolated rental offices they passed a pretty fair dress code, mainly “No Blue Jeans” was the biggest thing.
Did you know that jeans come in many colors? Tan, Olive Drab, Green, Brown, etc. So I shifted color. They also started selling polo shirts with the agency logo embroidered. So for the rest of my career I wore brown or tan or green jeans with an agency polo shirt. Being a techie I was pretty much under the radar, anyways.
Again, congrats on the hire. Not sure how I think about the suggestion that you wear a Tux on day one… how could you maintain that level for very long?
Major Major Major Major
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: Samwise’s favorite toy is the little ball full of kibble that he bats around and kibble comes out sometimes.
kindness
‘Long weekend’…hurrumph! Kaiser in it’s
sheer cheapnesswisdom does not give N. Cal folk Martin Luther King day off. Curiously S. Cal Kaiser does.Another Scott
@Roger Moore: Interesting. Thanks very much.
Cheers,
Scott.
J R in WV
OK, I’ve loved the books that “The Expanse” are based upon, although they don’t handle the extreme woo at the center of the mystery as well as they do standard physics. Plus they seem to have huge amounts of boost available compared to currently available thrust engines.
But we don’t really get much of a selection of TV signals, internet streaming only works for a tiny little box of news, which we’re mostly watching impeachment news on. We get Fox and ABC over the air, which means I get a few football games, but few of the great ones, which seem to be on ESPN somehow.
$50,000 suits? I don’t think so. Even Manafort wore less expensive suits that that! And Adam, it’s really hard to argue with a joke that makes everyone LOL…
Couch Thing
My question is: does he know that this is the wrong map and display it anyway, or is he too dumb to actually check?
Bill Arnold
@Searcher:
Yeah, though there are too many narratives[1] vying for attention for most (perhaps all) people.
[1] Narratives have agency, they do. :-)
Searcher
@Couch Thing: Are you asking if an old white guy ever updates his worldview?
joel hanes
@Couch Thing:
He doesn’t care about truth at all. True/false are not even categories his mind uses.
He divides the world into “good for Trump” / “bad for Trump”
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
Not a spoiler. One could craft a helluva drinking game synced to every time Ms Avasarala invokes the F word.
:)
Major Major Major Major
@NotMax: Great, now I know she survives the next episode!
rp
Having read the books, I can’t get over how good the casting is on the Expanse. Every actor is spot on.
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
Oh come now, did you ever think otherwise? Top tier regulars are not oft offed.
;)
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@NotMax: Ned Stark would nod at you with courtly irony, if he still had a head.
NotMax
@Jim, Foolish Literalist
Had to look up who that is. Wasn’t the M.O. of the show that elimination was never an if, the question was when?
;)
Yutsano
@NotMax: Fun fact: George R.R. Martin’s wife said that if he ever killed Arya she would divorce him.
@NotMax: Especially in Season 4. The actress who plays her is way too good at it. And I HAVE to know who does her costume design because DAMN they have fun with her!
WaterGirl
@Baud: It was a sharpie, it was just a red one.
edit: Damn you, Dangerman!
NotMax
@Yutsano
For her, they cornered the market on big clunky jewelry.
;)
WaterGirl
@Marcopolo: Late seeing this, but hopefully you will see my reply.
I did some testing on my iPhone 6 before rollout, but I have no patience for doing much on my phone besides reading.
If you are replying on your phone, have you tried immediately clicking the X and then hitting COMMENT in the white bar at the top? That at least closes the reply popup box and takes you to the comment box at the bottom.
Also, do you see the link above the comment box? If you click that, it always produces the text and tab buttons. But you want to do the before you start your comment, otherwise you will lose what you already wrote.
Send me email if you want to see if we can get something figured out for you. thanks,
edit: where did the link go the was above the comment box? does anyone know when that stopped being there?
Yutsano
@NotMax: Shohreh Aghdashloo is gonna have one heckuva neck after this series.
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: Or if they have to post them, they could at least post them with a warning, followed by white-text-on-white-background so you would have intentionally highlight it in order to be able to read it. :-)
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: The ruling just came in… you could have posted that in color, also, without being fined. :-)
James E Powell
@Yutsano:
She wouldn’t have needed a divorce. She would have been a widow. Arya stans are legion.
EmbraceYourInnerCrone
@Mary G: me too
Major Major Major Major
@NotMax: no that one was a joke :P
Procopius
I think it’s the map of “Non-Hispanic White Voteshare 2016,” at https://brilliantmaps.com/white-vote-2016/
thalarctosMaritimus
@CaseyL: hooray!
Very good news!
Keith P
Good move, great show. I’ve named all my cats after the Mao (Meow) family – Julie, (Jules) Pierre, and Peaches.
Hortense
There’s a great U. Michigan article that displays the difference between the ground that doesn’t vote and the people who do at this link:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/
Hob
@Adam L Silverman: Not to beat a dead horse, but I think people were totally reasonable to question your comment given that the context for the “land doesn’t vote” point was very obviously a map that’s trying to suggest a national election has something to do with the number of red counties within a state, which isn’t remotely true no matter how lopsidedly the Electoral College weights the states on the national level. No one was questioning your knowledge of civics; you were just being oddly literal-minded about a statement whose meaning in context was clear and correct.