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20 Questions

by $8 blue check mistermix|  January 22, 20208:35 am| 95 Comments

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I thought this quiz from the Post was an interesting exercise in figuring out which candidate to support. I’m sure most of you have made your decision but you might be curious to see if your preferences match your quiz results. Unfortunately, the quiz includes Tulsi, but not everything in the world can work right. Here’s my list – I was surprised at the Yangmentum:

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  1. 1.

    cope

    January 22, 2020 at 8:50 am

    Paywall but if there is a “D” following the name, I’m all in.

  2. 2.

    guachi

    January 22, 2020 at 8:52 am

    I got Bloomberg at #1 with 13. Am I still allowed to post here?

    Biden and Klobuchar tied with 12.

    Sanders and Gabbard were way at the bottom tied at 5.

  3. 3.

    artem1s

    January 22, 2020 at 8:54 am

    It’s a horrible quiz.  It assumes one preference precludes all others. That supporting 12 weeks of family leave is the same as rejecting more than 12 weeks of family leave.  That supporting access for everyone to Medicare/Medicaid is the same as rejecting M4A.  Hardly any of the answers actually fit any of the candidates positions. Mostly they are an amalgam of how the MSM wants to define the candidates and force them into a box for easy consumption.

  4. 4.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 22, 2020 at 8:55 am

    Amy K and Pete B with 13, Biden with 12. BS was the lowest at 6.

  5. 5.

    cleek

    January 22, 2020 at 8:57 am

    mine was basically the reverse of mmx, but somehow with Gabbard in the same place (2nd to last).

    that doesn’t match how i’d been planning to vote.

  6. 6.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 22, 2020 at 8:57 am

    @artem1s: I agree that it is a horrible quiz. Also the differences between those running for D nomination are minuscule.

  7. 7.

    Wag

    January 22, 2020 at 8:59 am

    Warren 14, Yang 14. But I’ll support whoever wins the primaries and chinches the nomination.

    @artem1s:

    I don’t think it’s horrible. It just gives you insight into who most closely aligns with your views.  The quiz could be made better by allowing you to rank the choices

  8. 8.

    Baud

    January 22, 2020 at 8:59 am

    @guachi: 

    Am I still allowed to post here?

    Perform three Hail Baud!’s and all is forgiven.

  9. 9.

    WereBear

    January 22, 2020 at 9:02 am

    @artem1s: A horrible quiz promotes indignation, postings along the lines of “what a horrible quiz” and then more people take it.

    Idiocracy tried to warn us. MOAR Brawndo, pls.

  10. 10.

    daveNYC

    January 22, 2020 at 9:04 am

    Sanders and Warren in the mid-teens, a mob of peeps clocking in at nine, then Biden and Bloomie bringing up the rear at four.  Really not looking forward to March 4th.

  11. 11.

    Baud

    January 22, 2020 at 9:05 am

    @WereBear:

    I haven’t and don’t plan to.

  12. 12.

    John Barleycorn

    January 22, 2020 at 9:09 am

    @Baud: 
    Can we choose ‘Keel haul Baud!s’ instead?

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 22, 2020 at 9:11 am

    Paywall.

  14. 14.

    gene108

    January 22, 2020 at 9:12 am

    I’m a Bloomberg supporter!

    Bloomberg – 13

    Klobacher & Yang – 12

    Biden, Buttigieg, & Steyer – 11

    Warren – 10

    Gabbard – 8

    Sanders – 7

    As NJ has our primary on June 2, my vote doesn’t count for much, but I’m switching from undecided to Bloomberg! Thanks WaPo!

    Bloomberg or bust!

  15. 15.

    Amir Khalid

    January 22, 2020 at 9:16 am

    I took the quiz for a lark. It tells me that I agree on 11 things with Wilmer, Warren, and Steyer; on nine with Bloomberg, Klobuchar, and Yang; and on eight with Biden, Buttigieg and Gabbard.

    My preference in POTUS candidates is based mostly on how well I think they will do as executives in government, rather than on how many things I agree with any one. This quiz doesn’t assess the former at all, and it hasn’t changed my mind about whom I would prefer.

  16. 16.

    bbleh

    January 22, 2020 at 9:17 am

    Lol, I think the WaPo says I support Buttigieg and Bloomberg, which I guess makes me … “pragmatic”? But I felt like the options left me picking what could be interpreted as wishy-washy points of view, so maybe I’m just trying to straddle?

    Anyway, as others have noted, I’ll even vote for Williamson if she gets the nod, but I’ll probably end up supporting Warren in the primary.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    January 22, 2020 at 9:18 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    My preference in POTUS candidates is based mostly on how well I think they will do as executives in government, rather than on how many things I agree with any one

    Same.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    January 22, 2020 at 9:19 am

    @gene108:

    “This quiz sponsored by Bloomberg for President.”

  19. 19.

    Aurona

    January 22, 2020 at 9:23 am

    It’s not a quiz I would promote.

  20. 20.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 22, 2020 at 9:24 am

    I don’t do online quizzes. I’ve put probably far too much information about myself online already.

  21. 21.

    WaterGirl

    January 22, 2020 at 9:24 am

    @Baud:  @Amir Khalid:   Ditto on the super relevant stuff that they left out.

  22. 22.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 22, 2020 at 9:27 am

    I have to say that in the primary I would never vote for somebody I thought couldn’t win come November, no matter how many of their positions I agree with nor how much I like their temperament. I know how far out of the mainstream my sentiments lie. I’ll take half a loaf over a moldy crust every time.

  23. 23.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 22, 2020 at 9:29 am

    @Baud: Same here, I also want someone who will take the fight to the Rs and battle their BS while getting shit done. Like NP has in the House.

     

    And on that basis alone Pete B who used R framing to attack the Ds is not my favorite though according to the Post I agree with him the most on issues.

  24. 24.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 22, 2020 at 9:30 am

    @WaterGirl: OT but I have been wanting to say for a while now how much I like the “Show Full Post on Front Page” button. Thanks to you and your team for it.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    January 22, 2020 at 9:35 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Where is that button?

  26. 26.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    January 22, 2020 at 9:36 am

    Quizzes like this are clickbait garbage. They promote simplistic, false narratives about how our government works. This quiz was mostly about minor policy differences between the candidates. It completely ignored the candidate’s priorities and differing emphases – they just assumed that all stated policy positions are equal, regardless of candidates’ actual leadership on the topics. No points for experience or accomplishments.

    Maybe useful for a Congressional primary, but completely irrelevant to the job of President.

  27. 27.

    Chyron HR

    January 22, 2020 at 9:38 am

    “I’m surprised the FSB stooge attempting to shear off 2-3% of the general election vote by pretending to espouse popular left wing views matches my left wing views.”

    I can’t imagine why you would be.

  28. 28.

    Immanentize

    January 22, 2020 at 9:38 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Now if Adam would only learn how NOT to show his full post on the front page.

  29. 29.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    January 22, 2020 at 9:41 am

    @Amir Khalid: I wish more American voters shared your understanding of how the US Constitution is intended to function.

  30. 30.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 22, 2020 at 9:42 am

    @Baud: Go to the Senate Impeachment Open Thread: Snapshots from Day One on the front page. It is at the bottom of that post, just above the “Post and Comments” box. It is fainter than the rest of the print so may be easily overlooked.

    It just occurs to me this might be a feature unique to Firefox?

  31. 31.

    James E Powell

    January 22, 2020 at 9:43 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    My preference in POTUS candidates is based mostly on how well I think they will do as executives in government, rather than on how many things I agree with any one.

    Same here. I would add that I consider who I think can win a national election to be paramount.

  32. 32.

    Baud

    January 22, 2020 at 9:44 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Cool.  Thanks.

  33. 33.

    Jeffro

    January 22, 2020 at 9:45 am

    @gene108: that’s about how mine turned out…Klobuchar, Bloomberg, Steyer, Biden, etc etc with Sanders and fake Dem Gabbard at the end.

    I’ll vote for the D no matter what, but whew those last two, ugh

  34. 34.

    Roger Moore

    January 22, 2020 at 9:46 am

    @artem1s:

    The quiz has all kinds of problems:

    • A lot of the questions are about whether we should study something. I support studying lots of things, even when I think the result of study will show it’s a bad idea.
    • The options are needlessly narrow. I think we should skip mamby-pamby single payer and jump straight to a NHS-type system.  Where is the option for that?
    • It treats all questions as equally important.  In reality, things like national basic income are unimportant because they aren’t going to happen, while action on climate change is vital.
    • It has hardly anything about foreign affairs, which is the area where the President has the most influence.

    It’s interesting, but the number they give you at the end is pretty useless.

  35. 35.

    Betty Cracker

    January 22, 2020 at 9:50 am

    @Chyron HR: Is Yang now supposedly an “FSB stooge” too?

  36. 36.

    JR

    January 22, 2020 at 9:50 am

    13 for Buttigieg, Yang, Klobuchar, and Steyer

    12 for Biden and Bloomberg
    9 for Warren

    8 for Sanders and Tulsi

     

    basically anyone will do except Tulsi

  37. 37.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 22, 2020 at 9:50 am

    @Baud: I use it a lot because after a certain point in the AM I am usually done for the day. The next morning I like to catch up on what the front pagers were posting about but I don’t have the time nor the inclination to read the conversations that followed because plain and simply, I can’t participate at that point.

  38. 38.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 22, 2020 at 9:51 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: It is not a Firefox feature, but it is dependent on how you navigate to the page.

  39. 39.

    eclare

    January 22, 2020 at 9:52 am

    @Immanentize: Hahaha…

  40. 40.

    gene108

    January 22, 2020 at 9:53 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I thought Tulsi was the FSB stooge.

    We have 2 FSB stooges in the Dem primary?

    Lord, that’s overkill

  41. 41.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 22, 2020 at 9:55 am

    @Gin & Tonic: MumblegobbledygoopmumbleslKFGN3857#*%&.

    Gesundheit.  ;-)

  42. 42.

    Betty Cracker

    January 22, 2020 at 10:04 am

    @gene108: We’ll probably get to “everyone opposing my preferred candidate is an FSB stooge” eventually.

  43. 43.

    cmorenc

    January 22, 2020 at 10:05 am

    What’s by far the most important characteristic of a presidential candidate is their base-line personality – how they lead, persuade, pressure, influence others.  Of course, there also needs to be a significant degree of overlap between their policy values and inclinations and yours – but their ability to favorably influence and lead a broad swath of the public (and effectively use the levers of power to exert pressure) are BY FAR more important characteristics than e.g. whether their health-care policy position is medicare-for-all vs improvements to the ACA vs public option etc.   In short, how the candidate relates to others.

    Donald Trump is a spectacular negative example of this principle, while Barack Obama is a spectacular positive example of this principle.  Or, in retrospect, consider the extent to which JFK’s afterglow still persists, despite the relatively minimal amount of substantive policy change that he initiated – most of the actual progressive policy changes happened under LBJ, but consider how important JFK’s character and judgment under pressure was during the Cuban Missile crisis – an ability that utterly escapes capture in campaign foreign policy position papers.

    That’s exactly why Joe Biden amazingly stays afloat at or near the top of a crowded democratic field, despite the many policy position deficits in his past.  I’m not saying here Joe’s my ideal candidate – my preference is for Elizabeth Warren, but if Biden winds up with the nomination, it will be because of enough of the electorate’s judgement of his base-line personality – how he leads, persuades, pressures, influence others.  Warren is pretty good on this measure, but so far Biden seems to be a bit better, which is why he seems (reluctantly to many of us) the most likely one to finish with the democratic nomination.  And not because of his exact policy positions – they’re close enough (especially compared to Trump), even if not quite what we’d prefer.

  44. 44.

    japa21

    January 22, 2020 at 10:14 am

    If a candidate is going to be basically powerless in implementing a policy I might like, than it doesn’t matter if we agree or not.

    As many have pointed out, in reality there are not all that many differences in what the candidates would like to see.  Biden would sign just about any progressive legislation that came his way, even if it went beyond something he may personally prefer.

    Sanders would probably veto any progressive legislation that came his way if it wasn’t progressive enough.

     

    More importantly, as Amir pointed out, is what are their actual qualities when it comes to being the President?  Many have shown the appropriate qualities, a few, such as Yang, Gabbard and Sanders have given me no reason to believe they could actual be effective Presidents.

    Finally, probably the most important factor for me this year is not domestic policy but how effective the candidate is likely to be in 1) repairing the damage that Trump has caused to our international relations and 2) is most likely to really hold Russia to account.

  45. 45.

    Citizen Alan

    January 22, 2020 at 10:17 am

    Rather annoyingly, I got Steyer (14) in first even though I have no intention of voting for him. Equally annoyingly, I had Warren (my first choice right now) tied with Buttigieg (who I’m not a fan of) at 13, followed by freakin’ Yang.

  46. 46.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 22, 2020 at 10:23 am

    @Betty Cracker: well how much does this FSB Stooge thing pay, anyway?

    For the record, I don’t think Sanders ever knowingly benefited from Russian help– though I’m not so sure about Tad Devine– but it’s hard to argue he wasn’t, and I’d say isn’t, a useful idiot. Tulsi I could see having half-witting conversations with unsavory people, much like Fredo trump. Yang and Steyer and Bloomberg certainly aren’t helping Dems much, as I see it, so you could argue they’re useful idiots, enemies of stability and predictability in the Dem primary and therefore allies of trump (and Putin)

  47. 47.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    January 22, 2020 at 10:28 am

    Steaming coming out of an exurban courthouse. Fail your child on multiple occasions by publicly showing your ass or getting fired from multiple jobs, fail to show up to or pay for third-party supervised visits, try self-harm while child is present, use while child is present (the powder under the nose was a big clue), blow off child support on multiple occasions, fail Jesus-y rehab on multiple occasions…

    Then all you have to do is pay a couple of months child support – late – bleat some Jesus words and re-enter some new Jesus-y rehab while expecting a medal, and some area judges wind up expecting the child and custodial parent to bend over backwards to accommodate while handing him a medal, going as far as to scold me for having the audacity to suggest that reunification therapy, if ordered, should be located at a point convenient for the custodial parent, child and their schedule, given “dad’s” failures as a man.

    #annoyedasfuck #daysofrage #jesusrehabdoesntwork

  48. 48.

    Immanentize

    January 22, 2020 at 10:31 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I am grrrrring with you.

    #jesusrehabdoesntwork

    Brilliant

  49. 49.

    Felanius Kootea

    January 22, 2020 at 10:32 am

    I agree with Warren the most (15) and Biden the least (5).  Can’t believe Gabbard (7) was a better match for me than Biden. So was Klobuchar (also 7).

  50. 50.

    MisterForkbeard

    January 22, 2020 at 10:33 am

    I think the quiz is useful in demonstrating that your positions are held by a wide variety of democratic candidates – it blunts some possible bias against candidates you may not like. Okay. I could see some people taking it and thinking “Warren/Buden/Sanders is closer to me than I thought”, etc.

     

    Not really a good quiz on it’s own, for all the reasons stated above.

  51. 51.

    Mrs. D. Ranged in AZ

    January 22, 2020 at 10:37 am

    @Immanentize: I’m a web programmer and this is a pet peeve of mine….when they don’t use the “show more” link on a long article…its very, very easy to do.

  52. 52.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    January 22, 2020 at 10:38 am

    CNN reports Terry Jones dead at 77.

  53. 53.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 22, 2020 at 10:39 am

    Speaking of these kinds of quizzes: “Which Beatle are you?”

    I tell ya Ringo gets no regard, no regard at all.

  54. 54.

    Jeffery

    January 22, 2020 at 10:44 am

    Warren or Sanders for me. Bernie is a turn off. Warren it is.

  55. 55.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 22, 2020 at 10:45 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    Steaming coming out of an exurban courthouse. Fail your child on multiple occasions by publicly showing your ass or getting fired from multiple jobs, fail to show up to or pay for third-party supervised visits, try self-harm while child is present, use while child is present (the powder under the nose was a big clue), blow off child support on multiple occasions, fail Jesus-y rehab on multiple occasions…

    I see you’ve met my ex, tho in her case she never had to pay child support, even after I finally got custody, but she rarely, very rarely, paid her share of all the costs we were supposed to split.

    Cracked me up when the state called me after all was said and done to tell me I had overpaid my child support by $10+K. After I added everything else in it was well north of $50K. They said, “You can sue her if you’d like.”

    Yeah, that would have gone over like a lead balloon with the boys. Besides, her 2nd stint in prison was for 6 years. Blood/turnips and all that.

  56. 56.

    Jeffery

    January 22, 2020 at 10:46 am

    @Felanius Kootea:

     

    @Felanius Kootea: I don’t know how much if anything Gabbard says is true.

     

    @Felanius Kootea:

  57. 57.

    Immanentize

    January 22, 2020 at 10:47 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: yeah, but,
    What kind of Pokemon are you?

  58. 58.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 22, 2020 at 10:47 am

    Whenever I encounter one of these quizzes my first question is what positions/candidates they’re shilling for. Like the “world’s smallest political quiz” that tells you you’re a Libertarian, or the Political Compass that identifies you as a radical socialist and puts Democrats right next to fascists.

  59. 59.

    Facebones

    January 22, 2020 at 10:54 am

    Huh. I got Warren first (expected!) with 14/20.

    But then right behind at 13 was a three way tie with Buttigeig, Yang and Steyer(!). WHich I found legitimately surprising.

  60. 60.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    January 22, 2020 at 10:56 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Couple of weeks ago I actually had a judge sigh and glare at me for demanding child support from a pro se litigant who hadn’t participated in mediation, had ditched the kids on her husband (including one she’d had during the marriage by a lover who insisted on proving paternity) whiteout paying a dime in support or providing so much as a pack of diapers over 24 months prior.  She hadn’t made an effort to see them for 14 months.

    All she had to do was say that she is trying to get sober.

    Judge thought I was being mean in putting the pressure of child support on her.

  61. 61.

    trollhattan

    January 22, 2020 at 11:03 am

    Our mayor came out yesterday with a Biden endorsement. Don’t know if it was a shameless attempt to get our burg mentioned in the news as “big city” i.e., “The latest big city mayor to endorse Joe Biden” but the timing and declaration both seem odd, this early on.

    He’s a longtime Dem and perhaps it’s a signal the state party is “pivoting” for Joe. I’ll try and quiz our neighbor, who’s his press person.

  62. 62.

    geg6

    January 22, 2020 at 11:05 am

    In order, mine came up as:

    Warren

    Buttigieg

    Steyer

    Bloomberg

    Klobuchar

    Yang

    Biden

    They got my #1 right, but I don’t have the rest in that order in my mind.  It would be Warren, Biden, Klobuchar, Steyer, Buttigieg, Bloomberg and Yang.  Tulsi isn’t even on my radar and Bernie is right the fuck out.

  63. 63.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 22, 2020 at 11:14 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: The one thing, the ONLY thing, to really piss me off, was the practice of removing counselors, mediators, guardian ad litems for prejudice whenever they had reached the inescapable conclusion that I was not only the far better parent for the boys, but that my ex was in fact detrimental to their well being.

    I sometimes wonder where the restraint I showed in court came from because I sure as shit wanted to strangle a number of lawyers and judges.

  64. 64.

    Another Scott

    January 22, 2020 at 11:17 am

    The questions are stupid because many/most/all of them are aspirational and have timelines attached.  Timelines that reasonably will be in decades in many cases, so no single President is going to get it done.

    That said:

    Steyer 14
    Mayor Pete 13
    SP Warren 13
    Mayor Mike 12
    Amy K 12
    $1000 11
    Uncle Joe 10
    St. Bernard 8
    Assad’s Friend 8

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.
    (“Who still likes SPW.”)

  65. 65.

    NCSteve

    January 22, 2020 at 11:21 am

    The problem with the quiz is that it works off the assumption, beloved by Democrats and press alike, that nothing, absolutely nothing, is more important than the candidates positions on The Issues.

    In fact, however, by the time a president is elected, the world will have changed and the stuff that seemed supremely important before the Iowa Caucuses has either gone away, fixed itself or stopped being a thing anyone cares about.

    A candidate’s position on the issues tells you something about who they are, but the reality is that 80% of a president’s work is reactive. Responding to stuff they didn’t want to happen, dealing with unintended consequences, dealing with 3:00 am phone calls, reading and reading and reading in preparation for making decisions so radioactive and toxic and lacking in distinguishable differences between bad and worse that they bubbled all the way up the bureaucratic chain to the Reliant Desk behind Harry Truman’s “the Buck Stops Here” placard.

    Most of the time, whatever part of a president’s stump speech proposals he, or hopefully she, doesn’t get accomplished before the middle of his/her second year never gets accomplished. And all of that being the case, the real issue is whether the candidate has the capacity to change in the face of new facts, has the skillset to deal with Congress, the steel to face down idiots and dictators, the character and intelligence to appoint smart, decent people grounded in empirical reality rather than dogma to the courts and the cabinet.

    This is why I was a Harris supporter. And it’s why the bottom of my list of those who remain are, in descending order, Yang, Bernie and Tulsi. And that includes the “wait, he’s still in?” white guys whose names I’ve forgotten and the billionaires

    Democrats belief that there’s nothing more important than “The Issues” is why they are so often left sputtering “but . . . but . . . but . . . we had the best policies!” on election night. And the frequent pious observations about the importance of ‘The Issues” by the press are deeply ironic given how little they actually care about them.

  66. 66.

    Fair Economist

    January 22, 2020 at 11:37 am

    The questionnaire has a lot of vague “would you consider XXX” questions which will mix up the results. Almost anybody *might* *consider* it, so the results add a lot of random noise.

    As many have pointed out, the question we’re asking is mostly who will be best at *implementing* good governance and policies. The Senate will be far to the right of any of them. No matter what Yang, Buttigieg, Steyer, and (to a lesser extent) Sanders say, I have no confidence in their ability to actually get things through Congress or select a capable national cabinet. Warren OTOH seems outstanding at “getting things done” – her advisors have become the de facto Democratic Senatorial think tank.  Klobuchar and Biden at least know Congressional log-rolling, although I’d be happier with Biden if he didn’t seem stuck in the 20th century.

  67. 67.

    zarley

    January 22, 2020 at 11:40 am

    Top 3:  Yang, Bloomberg, Biden

    Bottom 3:  Steyer, Gabbard, Sanders (last by a mile)

    Not surprising to me, but heretical enough for this crowd I suspect.

  68. 68.

    Bluegirlfromwyo

    January 22, 2020 at 11:45 am

    @artem1s: Yep. I got Steyer as my number one “agreed with” candidate. The quiz has no clue that my biggest priority is getting tons of money out of politics, so I wouldn’t vote for Steyer even if he gave me his money.

  69. 69.

    Fair Economist

    January 22, 2020 at 11:46 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    For the record, I don’t think Sanders ever knowingly benefited from Russian help

    Unless Sanders is a total idiot, he knows the Russians have been helping him and probably has trimmed his positions to draw more. His extreme intransigence is likely one of the reasons the Russians like him so much; I expect he’s exaggerated that a bit to draw more help from them.

    As somebody else pointed out (forgot who), if Sanders had spent the last 3 years building bridges with real Democrats and working on proposals that could actually pass he’d be the favorite now, not Biden.

  70. 70.

    Victor Matheson

    January 22, 2020 at 11:51 am

    @guachi: I’m right there with you. Klobuchar on top followed immediately by Steyer, Bloomberg, Biden, Buttigieg, and Yang. Sanders and Tulsi dead last.

    Quite honestly, no surprise coming from an economist. Of the ones that look like they could actually win the nomination, I am would be excited to pull the lever for Klobuchar and Warren and probably Biden, and perfectly happy at the very least to pull the level for Biden or Mayor Pete. I am not thrilled at all about Sanders but would obviously vote for him under any circumstance against essentially any Republican other than maybe William Weld.

  71. 71.

    Jinchi

    January 22, 2020 at 11:52 am

    I haven’t taken the test, so I don’t know what my WP certified ranking is, but here’s how I ranked the candidates, myself.

    Top tier:

    • Warren .    She’d be an absolutely transformative president and is the perfect antidote to the kleptocracy under Trump.

    2nd Tier:   I’d be perfectly happy if any of these won.

    • (Harris, Castro, Booker).     Wish you were all still in it. Just seeing Trump implode after being defeated by any of you would have been worth celebrating.
    • Klobuchar.     A little too ready to tell us why we can’t have good things, but otherwise a solid pick.
    • Buttigieg.       Well, he certainly seems smart.
    • Sanders.         I guess we didn’t want to go with boring this year.
    • Biden.             A return to the Obama era wouldn’t be the worst outcome, but I still have no idea why he wants to be president.

    3rd tier.    Hmmmm.

    • Yang?    Okay, Yang I guess.

     

    4th tier:   I’d drag myself to the polls, but I’d have serious concerns if either of these guys won.

    • Steyer.      The presidency shouldn’t be a hobby for billionaires, but at least you’re trying.
    • Bloomberg.      I guess we can look forward to a repeal of the 22nd amendment.

    Last tier:    Really. Let’s not go there.

    • Tulsi.      Putin completes his capture of the United States government.
  72. 72.

    tobie

    January 22, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    I was Yang, Warren, and Steyer but Amy K. remains my top choice because I think she has the best chance of actually getting initiatives passed as legislation. I’m also not a fan of blanket debt forgiveness for college and I didn’t like that Warren announced that as her priority on Day One.  Can that be done by executive fiat? I’d  prefer a promise to end family separation, Remain in Mexico, and the narrow definition of asylum lifted on Day One. All those could be revoked through an executive act.

  73. 73.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    January 22, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    @Fair Economist:

    Unless Sanders is a total idiot, he knows the Russians have been helping him

    Has Bernie read the Mueller Report? As far as I know, he has not addressed the Russian interference on his behalf in the 2016 Democratic primary. Whether or not he knew about it then isn’t the question. Even now that it is public knowledge, his supporters continue to gaslight us, insisting that it didn’t happen and was all in our heads. Meanwhile St. Bernie refuses to address it at all.

  74. 74.

    Betty Cracker

    January 22, 2020 at 12:10 pm

    @Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: See a 2018 Des Moines Register article here.

  75. 75.

    Ruviana

    January 22, 2020 at 12:13 pm

     

    @WereBear: Lol, I read that as Horrible quiz, promotes indigestion.

  76. 76.

    bookdragon

    January 22, 2020 at 12:30 pm

    @Another Scott:

    That’s pretty close to mine, except BS and Assad’s Friend had lower scores, and Biden was ahead of Yang on the list.

    Also, I still personally rank SPW at the top.

  77. 77.

    Ruviana

    January 22, 2020 at 12:35 pm

    @NCSteve: One can read about the fierce debate over Quimoy and Matsu in the 1960 election

    What this was about is left as an exercise for the reader.

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    January 22, 2020 at 12:43 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: You are so welcome!  I’m glad you noticed.

  79. 79.

    jc

    January 22, 2020 at 12:44 pm

    I’m a long-time Warren supporter. My quiz result: Warren.

  80. 80.

    WaterGirl

    January 22, 2020 at 12:44 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:  Nope, not unique to Firefox!  Every browser should show that.

    If the person who creates the post forgets and adds the break in the middle of a block quote, it won’t work if you click on it.  But other than that, it should always work in every browser.

  81. 81.

    WaterGirl

    January 22, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    @Baud: It’s up to the front pager to put the break into the post itself, if they don’t want the whole thing to show on the front page.

  82. 82.

    Citizen Alan

    January 22, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    @Facebones:

    To be honest, I like a lot of what Steyer and Yang are saying. I just don’t believe them.

  83. 83.

    WaterGirl

    January 22, 2020 at 12:48 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: It’s true that it only shows up like that on the front page.  Any time you click on an individual post, you ALWAYS get the full post and the comments.

  84. 84.

    Miss Bianca

    January 22, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    I took that quiz late last year and according to the results, turned out that Booker was supposed to be my man.

    Now that he’s out, I wonder what the results would be, but I’m not going to take the quiz again to find out.

     

    Do think it’s a shame that it’s Buttigieg that sucked up all the “Rhodes scholar city mayor” street cred for this election cycle. Booker would have been far more qualified for that slot.

  85. 85.

    Jay Noble

    January 22, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    Warren at 17 and could have easily been 19. Sanders at 13, Yang at 10 . . . Biden lowest at 5. Surprised at some of the stances because they haven’t gained much exposure. Which is what primaries are for. Biden being last certainly reflects my mindset, but should he be the nominee . . . bye bye Trump.

    Wilmer & Joe shouldn’t be in the race (imo) for a multitude of reasons but mostltly because I can’t see either of them being effective at getting things done.

  86. 86.

    Miss Bianca

    January 22, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    @Steeplejack (phone): Oh, sadness!

    That aphasia sounds like a particularly horrible way to go for such an articulately funny man. RIP

  87. 87.

    patroclus

    January 22, 2020 at 1:04 pm

    Klobuchar 16; Steyer 15 (although his support for term limits, if properly weighted, takes him down to zero); Bloomberg 14 (yeah, like I’m ever voting for him); Biden 14; Yang 11; Buttigieg 11; Warren 7; Gabbard 7; Sanders 6.  That seems about right, but like others, I also base my vote on who I think would be the best executive.  In the prior poll, Booker was #1 and Amy #2.

  88. 88.

    Quaker in a Basement

    January 22, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    @guachi:  I feel the same surprise. I’m more in tune with Biden than I would have guessed.

  89. 89.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    January 22, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    You know, the setup wasn’t very good. It was all talking points based, and it made for some strange results. For example, if you chose that “assault weapons” should be registered, you get agreement only for those who don’t want *all* guns registered, but don’t want *no* guns registered.

    But if I were to think high powered, low recoil, high capacity rifles should be registered, I’m in line with those who think all guns should be registered.

    Similarly, Warren is open to a public option and maintaining private insurance, or any significant improvement on the current system; but only “Medicare For All” registers “agreement”.

    Warren is the one where I noticed this the most, because she’s been the one I’ve been most interested in… but she’s also the right kind of pragmatist: the one who demands everything she wants, and only compromises to a real, meaningful, middle position; not the kind who thinks if they go halfsies for the Republicans, the Republicans won’t demand another halfsies.

  90. 90.

    Facebones

    January 22, 2020 at 1:39 pm

    @Citizen Alan: 
    Yeah, that’s a key thing. I support Warren because I think she knows exactly what she can push for in congress and when to use executive actions. Steyer and Yang might support similar things but I have little faith in their ability to navigate congress.

  91. 91.

    karen marie

    January 22, 2020 at 2:27 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:   Jeez – I have Biden at 4!  My mind is blown.  Warren is the highest, at 18 – I am not surprised.  I’m surprised that Gabbard and Yang are included.  Puleez.

  92. 92.

    karen marie

    January 22, 2020 at 2:29 pm

    @Formerly disgruntled in Oregon:  With every passing day I dislike Wilmer a little more, and after his horrendous acting out in 2016, I already disliked him A LOT.

  93. 93.

    Brachiator

    January 22, 2020 at 2:49 pm

    I got Yang, Biden, Bloomberg in the top places.

  94. 94.

    emyelle

    January 22, 2020 at 4:26 pm

    I’m a biologist and a faculty member. I’ve never lead, governed, or managed anything other than my lab, and the curriculum committee. I have very little knowledge, and zero practical experience, with how policy is actually made and enacted.

    So……..why would I support someone whose positions, narrowly defined, match mine? Sure’ I’d love a long-ass fully paid maternity leave. But I have zero data on the implications of such a, um, policy (ore, really, a preference), let alone how one would go about getting ANYTHNG better than what we have now, and what kinds of compromises and considerations would need to be made.

    Medicare for all! Fuck, yeah. Oh, wait. Is it going to cover everything my employer-provided health insurance covers? I mean, I know I have a pretty generous plan (with substantial out-of-pocket costs, but that’s how things work), but I’ve spent several years looking into what will happen with my current insurance if my kid ages out before needing an organ transplant, versus after. Can someone tell me how that’s going to go with M4A?

    My point is that most of us, even overeducated and highly resourced people like myself, have no fucking clue how any of this stuff work. and we have no experience, either. So, the results of matching someone’s wish list against the candidates’ platforms seems a sure way to highlight which candidates have the least reality-based platforms.

    And also, what artem 1s said.

    I’m going with any of the folks who have actually run something, other than their mouths, for a substantial period of time.  And those who are not Russian assets. Sorry, Bernie and Tulsi, on both counts. And preferably that “somethings” is government-related. Sorry, Tom and Andrew. And Pete-run something other than a suburb, and we’ll talk. Maybe, you know, actually win something other than a municipal election.

    Still leaves me with decent options.

  95. 95.

    Biff Longbotham

    January 22, 2020 at 8:08 pm

    Based on my results from the quiz, it looks like I’m backing a Warren/Yang ticket!

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