Here’s an angle I hadn’t seen on the Bolton book bombshell (via Digby)
We don’t know how this manuscript came into the New York Times’ hands, but the paper claims that Bolton shared drafts with close associates and delivered one to the White House to determine whether it contains classified information as is usual practice. While the motive behind leaking it is unclear, it stands to reason that Bolton may have feared that the White House would withhold the book on national security grounds after hearing the president say this in Davos last week:
The problem with John is that it’s a national security problem. You know, you can’t have somebody who’s at national security — and, if you think about it, John, he knows some of my thoughts. He knows what I think about leaders. What happens if he reveals what I think about a certain leader, and it’s not very positive, and then I have to deal on behalf of the country? It’s going to be very hard.
That sounds very much like a rationale Trump’s lawyers were testing out to keep Bolton’s book from seeing the light of day.
Yeah, it sure does. So, maybe Bolton orchestrated the leak to prevent the Trump administration from quashing his book on national security grounds? That’s a lot more plausible to me than Bolton’s being motivated by patriotism. Every single one of Trump’s low-quality hires have failed that test.
trollhattan
Whatever funhouse I find myself occupying while pondering Trumpian torpedoing of John Bolton with concern, where’s the exit, please?
Ella in New Mexico
YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEPYEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP
Also, I do think he doesn’t want to go down in history tied to their typhoid and rat-infested smoking pile of shit of a ship
He’ll go down on his OWN crappy ship, thank you…
MJS
Makes sense. Bolton has to have seen the exposure and book sales for Trump-hating Republicans (like Rick Wilson), and decided he didn’t want to risk losing all of that.
Cervantes
Well y’know, he could just fucking testify.
James E Powell
@Cervantes:
Or he could go on any one of a number of cable shows and tell the world what he knows. What’s stopping him?
artem1s
makes sense that he would offer his availability as a witness for the same reasons.
Wonder if there are others who wanted to jump on the book gravy train that will now want to go on record before Trump tries to slam the National Security door in their faces? As always, the GOP won’t do the right thing because it’s right, but if there is a profit in it for them, they will stampede over each other in an effort to jump on that bandwagon.
Raoul Paste
THAT is very plausible.
This would make a heck of a screenplay.
HRH mistermix, Lord Bombay Sapphire, Duke of Schweppes
Cue the chorus of say it isn’t so. Though, if all of his prior warmongering and constant wrongness couldn’t keep him off the TeeVee, why should this?
Martin
@Cervantes: Senate doesn’t pay enough for testimony.
MattF
I think one can assume that Bolton has thought this through pretty carefully, certainly more carefully than either Trump or Trump’s lawyers. As I said in an earlier thread, I’m no Bolton fan. But he’s a formidable adversary, and kneecapping Trump is his primary goal.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Left NPR on as they go live to the Senate and I’m hearing a man invoke “the teachings of Jesus Christ echoing down the corridors of history”. Any of our Libertarians or Constitutional scholars on TV want to comment on that?
Now we’re wishing John Roberts a happy birthday and I feel one of my occasional spasms of fondness for Bernie.
JGabriel
Combover Caligula via Betty Cracker @ Top:
This is complete bullshit – every leader in the world already knows what Trump says about them behind their backs, due to every gov’t in the world tapping the unsecured phone he insists on using to call world leaders and his corporate “friends”.
As far as foreign gov’ts go, Trump has no secrets.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Let them fight
MattF
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’ve never thought of the Mittster as a crazy leftist. A fresh perspective.
MJS
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Fight? Romney will retreat to his corner like a scolded puppy.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: some background on the recently appointed (by the guy who rigged his own election against Stacey Abrams) Senator Loeffler
the trumplicans are bigly populist
trollhattan
@James E Powell:
In an imponderable coincidence, Hannity has lost Bolton’s number.
Ella in New Mexico
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I just heard on MSNBC there’s a rumor that there are a “large group, as many as ten Republican Senators” that are thinking of pushing for witnesses.
“United they Stand”as a strategy to avoid being picked out of the water one by one by TrumpTwitter Fire?
Also, listening to this fucking JOKE Ken Starr right now, expounding on Congress not having too low a bar for impeachable offenses so as not to damage the President’s ability to do his job makes me wish for an invisibility cloak so I could track him down, follow him every where he goes and repeatedly kick him in the balls for like 24 hours.
Gin & Tonic
But Bolton has already been paid – that’s why they call it an “advance.” Even if the Trump admin somehow succeeds in quashing it, that’s the publisher’s problem, not Bolton’s.
Barbara
Of course, Bolton “orchestrated” the release of the draft to the media while simultaneously being able to deny that “he” disclosed anything to anyone. No one said that NYT got the thing “directly” from Bolton.
JGabriel
Senator Kelly Loeffler @ SenatorLoeffler (via Jim, Foolish Literalist):
Right. Because all those Utahan Mormon Lefties must be weighing mightily on Romney’s … conscience?
sukabi
@Cervantes: where’s the $$$ in that?
It’s quite obvious money trumps patriotism for this bunch.
Immanentize
@Ella in New Mexico:
sinvergüenza
Immanentize
@JGabriel: I am not sure this is a fight a newby Senator wants to have with old time republicans in the Senate.
MJS
@Gin & Tonic: He craves attention, too. If his book is quashed, not only can’t it be sold, he can’t go on TV to talk about what’s in it and, before you know it, he becomes completely irrelevant, now that he’s burned his Fox News bridge.
Aleta
Marcy Wheeler suggested something along those lines yesterday, about the possibility of Bolton’s orchestration, along with some pure speculation.
Obvious Russian Troll
@Gin & Tonic:
I don’t know if he has a realistic chance of earning out the advance (and thus making more money in royalties), but he has zero chance of earning out the advance if the book gets squashed.
Wjs
The entire Trump Regime is a low quality hire, very well said.
It has never been an administration because it is not there to run the US government. They are stealing everything and they know Democrats will have to spend the next decade fixing everything.
sukabi
@Ella in New Mexico:
That’s rich coming from the asshole that spent almost 2 years and $70mm on investigations into the Clintons that eventually ended up in Monica Lewinsky’s panties for lack of anything else.
zhena gogolia
@Ella in New Mexico:
Just One More Canuck
@Ella in New Mexico: can we start a Gofundme for this? I’m in
Gin & Tonic
@MJS: I fail to see a problem with that outcome.
Roger Moore
@JGabriel:
It’s pretty clear that in modern Republican parlance, “the left” means “anyone to the left of me”.
Barbara
@Ella in New Mexico: Seriously, I could definitely take over once you need to get some sleep.
Immanentize
@zhena gogolia: It needs
Yakety Sax!
Immanentize
somehow, Starr is forgetting to mention his client’s name.
mardam422
@MJS: And he’ll probably piss on the floor on the way.
Bill Arnold
There is also the possibility (TTL reminded by palmerreport) that, depending on timing of the delivery of the manuscript to the White House, that one input into D.J.Trump’s decision to order a political assassination(/act of war) was that it might appease John Bolton, who really really really wants regime change in Iran, and delay any testimony until after an impeachment acquittal. If John Bolton believes this (and it’s pretty plausible if the timing is right), then he might be a bit miffed that the war fizzled. (Which was (at least) a combination of no immediate American fatalities during the limited Iranian response, and the downing by Iranian anti-aircraft missiles of a civilian airliner. (fuck fuck fuck on the later… :-( I hope the inquiry is made fully transparent by the Iranians. ))
A DJT electoral college victory in 2016 led us to a warmongering War Walrus as NATSEC advisor.
clay
@Roger Moore: No, “the left” is “anyone who questions the Dear Leader”.
It’s the converse of Cleek’s Law.
Immanentize
Wonkette:
Brachiator
@Ella in New Mexico:
I cannot imagine Bolton as a patriot or man of honor. And he needs to live off the right wing gravy train in the future.
So, I can’t see him really doing anything that would hurt Trump.
What’s his angle?
Immanentize
@Brachiator:. I am not saying it is true, but someone is going to know when shit really got real and spun out of control. Who better than a dialed in semi-spook like Bolton. Other than a real deal one like Haspel. Then, first one to the exit wins for all time. It’s like plea deals in a big drug or organized crime prosecution, first one to snitch gets the best deal. Third one to do so gets serious time.
It will happen, but this probably isn’t that.
sdhays
@Immanentize: I’m totally blindsided!
Kylroy
@Roger Moore: It should be pointed out that Utah is *not* fond of Trump. This is how I know Romney is completely gutless, in that he’s damn near the only person in the GOP who could take on Trump and *not* lose his seat.
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
It’s always possible that he thinks Trump is going down hard enough that he and his stooges will become unpeople. If that happens, the unpeople won’t get wingnut welfare, but the people who properly distanced themselves from Trump may. Anyone who took part in turning Trump into an unperson is likely to do especially well in the process.
It’s also possible he believes he’s getting to the end of his career- he is 71 years old- and thus won’t be able to ride the wingnut gravy train much longer anyway. In that case, maximizing his book revenue may be more important than maintaining his good standing with the wingnut welfare agencies.
Josie
@Barbara:
I would imagine we could easily field an entire team to take up this worthy endeavor.
Ella in New Mexico
@Just One More Canuck: Maybe someone could ask Elon Musk if he’s done anything on the whole invisibility cloak thing first
@Barbara: Team players are preferred :-D
Chyron HR
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
More like Senator Literally Whoffler, amirite folks?
JPL
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I posted this on the impeachment post also
Sen Loeffler’s Cumberland office answered the phone. I identified myself and gave my address and then asked if she was aware that John Bolton was a lifelong republican who worked for Reagan, both Bushes and Donald Trump. I found it offensive that she would accuse him of slander without hearing his testimony. The person was speechless on the other end. If you live in GA call 770 661 0999.
ByRookorbyCrook
The thing is Bolton knows he was about be burned as a Republican FP influencer. It is what Trump does, he burns people down when they are no longer in his circle. So Bolton needs this book to continue to be somebody. If Trump is going to burn him, Bolton will burn Trump and the rest of the circle. We will see how this either escalates or how Bolton gets bought off. Look for a FOX News exclusive with Hannity to bolster his credibility while damning the Liberal NYT for trusting anonymous sources or they will continue to burn him and he will dribble more evidence.
NotMax
Of the belief that qualifies as cruel and unusual punishment.
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Ben Cisco
@trollhattan: “
UltronTrump has another enemy. That’s NOT the same thing.”Fury has the right idea.
Aleta
“Americans don’t f*cking care about Ukraine!” (Pompeo)
rikyrah
Makes sense to me. Of course, BOOK SALES matter more than national security with this group.
Ella in New Mexico
@Immanentize:
Or like they say around here: Pinche puto cabron Bolton :-D
Aleta
@Aleta: wrong thread …
jonas
Yes, if there’s one thing that you can say about Trump, it’s that he keeps his opinions of people and issues closely held and doesn’t normally broadcast them around the world 50 times a day in incoherent rage tweets.
...now I try to be amused
@ByRookorbyCrook:
If any of Trump’s people have read Sun Tzu they’d know you should leave your enemy a line of retreat unless you are prepared for him to fight like a cornered rat.
trollhattan
@…now I try to be amused:
Allow me to stop you right there….
RAM
Maybe that Anonymous person who wrote the tell-all book leaked the manuscript after it was sent to the White House?
RAM
@rikyrah: It’s not just book sales. It’s general personal empowerment and enrichment. But you’re right–the rule of law and the Constitution simply don’t enter into their calculations.
EthylEster
@Brachiator: That’s what I’m wondering, too. It’s hard for me to view anything about Bolton as a positive. Did he think DJT would give him the war he wants? Did he not realize what an idiot and fraud DJT was/is? I am not yet convinced Bolton will (or even wants to) take down DJT.
JustRuss
Christ, everyone knows Trump has been using NDAs like crazy since forever, of course he’s going to jump on “national security” to quash anything he possibly can.