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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / Election Year Open Thread: Elizabeth Warren – Why I’m with Her

Election Year Open Thread: Elizabeth Warren – Why I’m with Her

by Anne Laurie|  February 11, 20208:13 am| 22 Comments

This post is in: 2020 Elections, Open Threads, Warren for President 2020

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People are worried that the fight against Donald Trump could be unwinnable. Here's the thing: I've been winning unwinnable fights my whole life. Everyone thinks they know what fights are unwinnable—until everyone gets out, fights, persists, and wins. That's how we'll beat Trump. pic.twitter.com/34f4kkXbfb

— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) February 11, 2020

ICYMI:

Warren has a wicked sense of humor that comes out from time to time, but I get the sense that she tries to keep it under wraps lest men get too threatened. https://t.co/wN4npTP38T

— Paul Waldman (@paulwaldman1) February 10, 2020

I could not love Elizabeth Warren more if she was herself a golden retriever.

— ana marie cox (@anamariecox) February 8, 2020

Warren on MSNBC: I’m not here to knock other candidates, we need to unify against Trump, we don’t need a repeat of 2016.

here’s me, agreeing

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) February 11, 2020

Warren came aboard for some q’s.
She rarely shied away from criticizing other Dems on issues over her career, but has mostly declined to do so in this campaign, even now. Part of it is the unity candidate strategy but I asked why not call out her opponents. pic.twitter.com/0lmthAYIA2

— Alex Thompson (@AlxThomp) February 10, 2020

After a bunch of q’s about polls Warren replied:
“It’s a very fluid moment in the primary… Who was supposed to still be in this race today and who wasn’t? I think I wasn’t?” Warren asked. “I think the prediction business right now is not something I’d be heavily investing in” pic.twitter.com/tiq7s9EtLy

— Alex Thompson (@AlxThomp) February 10, 2020

Put another way: Pete Buttigieg is 32 years younger than Warren. By the time she was sworn in to the Senate, he had run for office twice. By the time Biden was Buttigieg's age, he was serving his second Senate term.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) February 10, 2020

.⁦@ewarren⁩ to ⁦⁦@CharlotteAlter⁩: “We have to show that we’re willing to take the risk,” she says slowly. “Because if we’re not, then women will never win.” https://t.co/flOn9qsluI

— Elena Schneider (@ec_schneider) February 10, 2020

Consistently distinctive about Warren events: the people asking questions go deep on policy (“I actually brought a PowerPoint for you to read,” a woman just told her), whereas others get questions like “How will you beat McConnell?” or “What’s your plan on health care?”

— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) February 10, 2020

As she was doing her closing riff on creating the CFPB, the mic cut out. “It’s the banks,” @ewarren says. “It says dead battery—all I can say is that may be,” she points at the mic, but then at her chest, “but not here.”

— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) February 11, 2020

Warren: "I cannot say to all those little girls: 'This got hard and I quit.' My job is to persist."

via @AnnieLinskey https://t.co/BqIwMZXFUO

— Amy B Wang (@amybwang) February 10, 2020

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  1. 1.

    artem1s

    February 11, 2020 at 8:40 am

    whether Warren wins or not, we need more people like her in office. She isn’t in it to perpetually run for office. She isn’t in it to win a campaign as much as she is to education the voters. She isn’t wearing her office like an expensive, chic accessory. She isn’t in it to get into the ‘club’. She has just found a vehicle that fits her need to fulfill her quest to fight corruption and fraud.

  2. 2.

    Jerzy Russian

    February 11, 2020 at 8:43 am

    Bailey for Vice President!  He (Bailey is a boy dog, right?) seems more qualified than the current one.

    I seem to recall that George H. W. Bush effectively called his wife a dog at one point.  We was talking about the Truman quote about friends and dogs in D.C. and said that he (Bush) does not need a dog since he had Barbara.

  3. 3.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 11, 2020 at 8:45 am

    I plan to vote for Warren in the IL primary. Once I decided that, I stopped paying attention to all the wrangling. The state of the country is stressful enough without that.

    I dreamed that I was fired. Whoever my employer was phoned, and when Mr DAW answered they told him, and he told me. At least they didn’t fire my brother (as far as I know), so they behaved better than the president.

  4. 4.

    Another Scott

    February 11, 2020 at 8:45 am

    She sees the big picture, the value of public service, and the need to do the work and persist.  She’s an inspiration.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  5. 5.

    Betty

    February 11, 2020 at 8:46 am

    Not sure what has to happen to get this across, but I would love to see more influential Democrats acknowledge that she is the most capable, prepared person for the job. That kind of support could overcome this reluctance about a female candidate’s chances of beating Trump.

  6. 6.

    Chris Johnson

    February 11, 2020 at 8:46 am

    Awesome :D

    And the first time I heard of her ‘I already have a dog’ reply, I was like, “yes!” but for several reasons. One, it’s funny. Two, it’s calling out what Pence is, in a humiliating way. But three: that’s exactly the kind of perfect, spontaneous line that wins elections. It’s a gotcha, a quotable zinger, and it’s not by accident because it couldn’t have happened without Warren understanding EVERYTHING about where we are, how we got here, etc.

    It’s funny because it’s true, but it’s great because it’s no accident.

    If Warren was asked, “Will you consider a Republican running mate?” she’d probably say something like “Are you kidding? Hard pass on that one”. Actually I have no idea how she’d phrase it. I’d be tempted to go ‘no way, I’m already dealing with a Republican in the Dem primary, but I beat him when he was propping up Scott Brown’… but that would be going after someone who is nominally in the Dem primary, so that’s tricky, don’t know her intentions there or how she categorizes Bloomberg.

    Apart from the exemplar of everything she’s fought against all her life, I guess.

  7. 7.

    Nelle

    February 11, 2020 at 9:08 am

    We are Team Warren in this house. She listens. How rare is that in public office? I can’t sniff out ego as she is focused on the task at hand. It’s something I saw in Harris, also. Compare those two attributes to the other candidates.

  8. 8.

    JMG

    February 11, 2020 at 9:09 am

    @Chris Johnson: Bloomberg will make Bernie light up with the “tilt” sign, so Warren is very smart to keep refraining from attacking her Democratic opponents. In a multi-candidate race, the ones who stay out of the intramural fights always benefit.

  9. 9.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 11, 2020 at 9:11 am

    @Betty: but I would love to see more influential Democrats acknowledge that she is the most capable, prepared person for the job.

    Isn’t that the point of the primaries?

  10. 10.

    Amir Khalid

    February 11, 2020 at 9:25 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I think the point of the primaries is to determine whom the voters prefer for the POTUS job, which is not necessarily the same thing as whom they think is best prepared.

  11. 11.

    Betty Cracker

    February 11, 2020 at 9:26 am

    I’ve said it before: the main thing I love about Warren is that she’s in the race because she wants to DO something, not BE somebody. She didn’t even want to be a politician! If congressional Republicans weren’t such petty assholes, they wouldn’t have nixed her from consideration to head up the CFPB, then she wouldn’t have bounced Scott Brown out of office. It would be sweet justice if that backfired on them in the most spectacular way possible.

  12. 12.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 11, 2020 at 9:48 am

    @Amir Khalid: It probably reflects a judgment on who they think is the most capable candidate.  But then capable encompasses a lot more than having detailed plans for every occasion.  Also, that judgment involves a lot of intangibles – which is why we have many different individual judgments floating around.  Take a look at the rank order that people have assigned to the various candidates; no one has the same one.  And that’s probably why I came up with my somewhat flippant statement – people’s opinions and judgments about the candidates differ, and that is fine during the primaries.

  13. 13.

    Chris Johnson

    February 11, 2020 at 10:00 am

    @Betty Cracker: What I love about Warren is that she’s absolutely right about everything she’s observed politically, economically… she’s sharp and not conned easily, and she’s effective.

    She’s ripping the masks off a lot of stuff. If it was only Bernie, the oligarchs could fight that. Warren shows up, and all of a sudden we’ve got a billionaire literally buying up the entire Democratic party and promising to use it to help any nominee even if it isn’t him: but even if he does that, he still bought the party outright and will have expectations that will not be subtle. And we know what he wants: Republican things, like making the ultra-wealthy wealthier, and race-based gun control (take guns away from young black men).

    Warren’s presence is exposing some very ugly things, and they need to be exposed. And good for Bloomberg for trying: we need to watch. He deserves humiliating defeat. Whether he gets that depends on whether the Bernie claims were right, that the country is literally just run by and for the wealthy. Bloomberg succeeding is a far better argument for those claims than Hillary succeeding: she’s been politically active in the Democratic party for a lot of years. Bloomberg’s a Republican, he’s just got money.

    The cost of buying, outright, the political system of THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD is apparently less than a fiftieth of one guy’s PERSONAL wealth.

    There’s your problem. Obvious enough yet?

  14. 14.

    low-tech cyclist

    February 11, 2020 at 10:15 am

    Lord, is she amazing.  She’d be such a terrific President.

    I live in Maryland, which votes pretty late in the game – there’s a bunch of states, most of the Northeast actually, that vote on April 28.  If she’s got any chance to win at that point, I’ll be voting for her.

    (That’ll be the last sizable block of delegates to be determined, so Lord help us if the race is still going on May 1.)

  15. 15.

    mali muso

    February 11, 2020 at 10:19 am

    She’s getting my vote in the Virginia primary.  Since Harris dropped out, Warren is my next favorite candidate to get meaningful change done.

  16. 16.

    Betty Cracker

    February 11, 2020 at 10:24 am

    @Chris Johnson: Good points — she really has exposed a lot of rot already. When Warren was briefly leading the polls, the fat cats couldn’t stop shitting themselves on CNBC and making free campaign ads, and the Morning Joe douchebros and other wealthy media shills showed their true colors.

  17. 17.

    Kent

    February 11, 2020 at 10:40 am

    She has my vote in the March 10 WA primary if I still have a chance to vote for her.

    I honestly think she is the best foil for Trump.  He just seems to be put off his game by strong women and avoids them at all cost.  Barely any women in his administration.  None in any meaningful appointments other than the two nepotism hires, Chao and DeVos.  No women SCOTUS nominees.  He fired Janet Yellen who was more his ideological twin than Powell actually.  And, of course Pelosi most of all seems to leave him incoherent.  I think her wicked sense of humor and relentless good natured competence would completely put him off his game.

    If I can’t have Warren then Klobuchar.

  18. 18.

    tam1MI

    February 11, 2020 at 11:02 am

    Since my state doesn’t go until after Super Tuesday, I will be stuck voting for whoever can deny Wilmer the nomination. Please let that person be Elizabeth Warren.

  19. 19.

    Skepticat

    February 11, 2020 at 11:32 am

    We live in opposite world now, where too many people see tRump as wonderful (or I suppose I should say “perfect”) and not enough see Warren as the pragmatic, talented, sensible, witty, brilliant, skilled person who could make us proud of our president again if it were she. I’m discouraged and frustrated.

    Maine has closed primaries, and as an unaffiliated independent, I can’t get back to the States to change my registration for the primary, which has to be done in person. This frustrates me severely, but least I can vote online in the general. I sincerely hope it’ll be for Warren, but it will be for any Dem.

  20. 20.

    James E Powell

    February 11, 2020 at 11:38 am

    @Another Scott:

    She sees the big picture, the value of public service, and the need to do the work and persist.  She’s an inspiration.

    And because of this, the press/media finds her uninteresting. She just doesn’t generate the kind of content they are looking for.

  21. 21.

    Jinchi

    February 11, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Warren’s great. If she doesn’t win the presidency can we at least skip Schumer and make her Senate majority leader?

  22. 22.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    February 11, 2020 at 2:46 pm

    I really do love Warren. Sometimes, I think about her, and I think about the scene in My Cousin Vinny where Mona takes the stand, and some damnfool prosecutor thinks he can trip her up on basic car knowledge.

    You know – where your  brain goes “I’m so incredibly turned on by that epic display of competence, that I’d better rein in *everything*, and rephrase every question, before it turns into a dinner invite, or something even more embarrassing.”

    (Seriously, can’t you just hear her finishing the answer to a question (with a bit less accent, and  probably on a different topic, but showing the same competence as…) “…however, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top-dead-center.” )

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