This was just waiting to happen. pic.twitter.com/pNEKpRMjsr
— Celina Schocken (@CelinaSchocken) March 13, 2020
This may stick around in the historical assessment of Trump pic.twitter.com/Gkd6bNy1Kr
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) March 13, 2020
the president is acting like the guy in a zombie movie who keeps pulling down his sleeve to try and hide a bite mark
— chris kyle (real) (@Theophite) March 13, 2020
Not true, @realDonaldTrump. I wrote to you more than 600 days ago demanding answers after you fired the entire White House pandemic team. https://t.co/ICbHOkyeyY pic.twitter.com/71OF9gKA3N
— Sherrod Brown (@SenSherrodBrown) March 13, 2020
a lot of people are in the same boat, and to my employer's credit, they appear not to object either.
— chris kyle (real) (@Theophite) March 13, 2020
just to correct the President: one engineer will be working on the COVID website; 1699 will be working on the four discrete chat apps which that website will use.
— chris kyle (real) (@Theophite) March 13, 2020
as I was saying on the podcast the other day, you gotta overcome your sense that 'this is silly/ridiculous' https://t.co/1s8MlJb6Xc
— James Palmer (@BeijingPalmer) March 13, 2020
i think we should make the pharaoh who just came back to life president https://t.co/yXbG2IFDus
— chris kyle (real) (@Theophite) March 13, 2020
Baud
PenAndKey
Well, what a way to end the week. I received notification that my son won’t be returning to elementary school until 4/3 here in Wisconsin. That’s…. swell.
But no worries folks, Trump says it’s not his fault! And my student loan payment interest is being waived (not the payments, just the interest)! FFS, what a shit show.
Roger Moore
Shock and horror, there is once again video evidence proving that Trump is lying through his teeth.
Mary G
I called it:
berf
I’ve been told that the proper name for this virus is SARS COVFEFE-19.
mad citizen
I think I’m dense because I’m not understanding the point of Chris Kyle’s tweets here. Does he work for Google but somehow wants to say stuff that might get him in trouble?
Mai naem mobile
@Baud: ofcourse he does. Did you expect anything else? The thing is he keeps on taking about the deaths from the swine flu under Obama and the fucking moron does not realize that he is talk9ng about numbers(inflated numbers but lets not even go there) after the pandemic was over. COVID19 isn’t over. He is just asking for Karma to bitchslap him witha much bigger number than Obama’s by the time this thing is done . And,oh yeah, we aren’t even taking the economy into consideration.
MisterForkbeard
@Baud: I’m constantly aghast at how the media just flat refuses to say “lies” about literally everything Trump says.
Mary G
OK, I’m rapidly leaving “impeach the motherfucker” territory for “tar and feathers would be nice”:
sanjeevs
U.K. government just uturned and will ban public gatherings. Their plan before was just to let people get sick and rely on herd immunity.
Mike in NC
Fat Bastard is speeding up plans to have his bloated ugly head carved onto Mount Rushmore before two million Americans die of coronavirus, sources say.
Ken
Quick, name two things you remember about Harry S. Truman.
(Two, to allow for the Dewey headline.)
Roger Moore
@Mary G:
Tar and feathers is being too kind. He is literally risking millions of deaths, so a capital trial is certainly in order.
Roger Moore
@sanjeevs:
That’s not how herd immunity works.
Ken
In fairness, that’s the only plan now. The hard part is not overwhelming the healthcare system until that happens.
hells littlest angel
“I DON’T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AT ALL” should be on his tombstone.
And soon.
PenAndKey
@Roger Moore: You don’t survive being dumped in hot pitch. The feathers are just an execution accent detail.
But yes, I agree. If the administration doesn’t face an actual criminal trial for their conduct since this started I’m afraid there will be literal riots. This sort of event is what destroys governments and societies, especially if we follow the current trajectory of being Italy 2.0 by two weeks from now.
Calouste
Second person who has been at Mar-a-Corona has tested positive.
Roger Moore
@Ken:
lamh36
Helloooo Juicers!
Trying to catch up on news I missed. Feels like I don’t know what the heck is going on since last night. I went to bd early to be well rested for my interview today.
So let me tell ya’ll bout my interview. I’ll seperate it into parts so the comments won’t be too long.
Interview was for 9am in BR. So I had to get up early to shower and wash and go my hair, then drive 1 1/2 to BR from NOLA. So I woke up at 6am got to BR or bout 8:15. Stopped at my sister’s house to go potty before the interview (sis actually lives bout 15 min from the place).
Arrived at the lab for 8:30. Took 15min to woosah, settle my nerves and breath and chill. I checked with security at about 8:50 for my interview. .. (1/4)
lamh36
@lamh36:
I waited in the lobby for the interview folks to come get me and about 9:05 the Micro Mgr (the guy I’d be working directly under) got me from the lobby and we went to the interview conference room.
It was a panel interview, 3 people…the Micro mgr, the former Supervisor (she got a promotion, the position I applied for is for her replacement), and the Lab QA/QC Mgr. The interview started out with them telling me about the job and then they had two pages of questions that they had to ask all the applicants. The took notes of the answers you gave.
The interview went on for about 1hr and 15 mins, then they asked me if I had any questions, which I did. I have 3-5 questions I always ask for any lab job I apply for. 1)what are the day to day work duties, 2) What kinda of instrumentation do you have (always good to know if I have experience with equipment, 3) How many techs will be under my supervision, 4) What do you expect from the person you hire, 5)what’s the process from here. (2/4)
Baud
@Ken:
I’m halfway through a Truman biography. I need to finish it.
lamh36
@lamh36:
So what they told me was they were interviewing all the applicants today, then early next week, they will be making a decision, then it goes to the HR manager, the state takes is time as usual, so the entire process once they make a choice can take about 3 weeks.
While the were asking questions, I was also observing, and I noticed the sheet on the table had 3 names on it, including mine. So I’m thinking it’s me along w/2 other applicants. I’m not sure if he saw me looking, but I only was able to see one entire name, and it then he put another sheet over it.
Here’s the interesting part…the name I did see was the name of a former coworker! In fact, I’m pretty sure I trained her a little bit while I was there. I already know her experience level in def not as long as mine, but I don’t know if she had done more in the five plus years since we worked together, but who knows.
the even more interesting part…when he walked me back to the lobby after the interview, guess who was in the lobby, I assume for the next interview, MY FORMER COWORKER who’s name was on the list! We were actually on great terms, so when I saw her we hugged (although maybe we shouldn’t have w/the Coronivrus stuff…oops…LOL) and I told I thought I recognized your name. And she recognized my name from the sign sheet. I wished her good luck. She said “you too”. (3/4)
lamh36
@lamh36:
One other interesting tidbit, when I asked them about the process after this, I mae sure to mention my upcoming Masters degree graduation!!! I was like, ok, I was just wondering the timeframe, cause I don’t know if you noticed, but I in school right now for HCM, and I graduate in May.
The Mgr guy was like “oh, is that online?” and I said, “well it is now…LOL…but it was on campuse late evenings…” so it didn’t interfere with my work schedule.
Anyway, all in all, it went as well as it could. I put my best foot forward, and I think I came off pretty well.
It’s in the universe’s hands now.
(4/FIN)
dexwood
@Mary G: Crimes against humanity works for me.
Quaker in a Basement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKQhj852pso
Gin & Tonic
@lamh36: I suspect I’m among many here wishing for the best for you. Good luck!
PenAndKey
@lamh36: Wait a tic, micro manager? lab? QA/QC? Do tell! You’re not in my area, but I’m a food industry QA/QC Manager myself and my last job was as a microbiology qc lab supervisor at a fermentation facility. If you ever need any contacts or the like up in Wisconsin just let me know.
Mary G
@lamh36: Sounds like you did great! Did their answers make you want the job more or less?
Martin
@Ken: ‘The buck stops here’.
Maybe not the best choice to point out how an expression won’t define a president.
Mary G
These fucking weasels. I hope Nancy just holds the damn vote.
A Ghost to Most
@berf: covfefe-45.
Martin
BTW, 4chan is going to have a fucking field day with the Google test thing. I give it 48 hours before they render it useless.
Martin
@Mary G: Yup. Vote for it, send it over.
HumboldtBlue
@lamh36:
Best of luck, here’s hoping for good news.
Elsewhere, now Google contradicts Trump about the supposed website.
Amir Khalid
@MisterForkbeard:
Two reasons:
Roger Moore
@Mary G:
Shorter Trump: “I am altering the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further.”
Aleta
Another Trump lie:
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
@Ken: used to play piano with Lauren Bacall; built balconies
hueyplong
@Roger Moore:
1. He integrated the armed forces.
2. In retirement he continually called Nixon “a sonofabitch.”
I’m feeling charitable about every president except Trump.
Mike in NC
@PenAndKey: The brutal act of tarring and feathering a person was accurately portrayed in the John Adams miniseries on HBO, and I think more recently in ‘Outlander’.
Sister Golden Bear
Just got an email from PG&E that they’re suspending disconnections for people who can’t pay their bills, and will work with them long-term to figure out payment plans.
When P fucking G & fucking E has more compassion and planning than our president…
MomSense
@lamh36:
I hope you get it!
Amir Khalid
@Roger Moore:
3. He celebrated his election victory by brandishing a newspaper whose front-page banner headline proclaimed that his opponent had won.
4. He was the namesake of a character on Twin Peaks.
5. I think the band Chicago had a song about him.
Mike in NC
@Ken: Truman had this sign on his desk that read “The buck stops here”, while Trump only cares that the buck stops in his pocket.
hueyplong
@Amir Khalid: They (Chicago) did.
Martin
@Aleta: So it could be open to the public, but it doesn’t do what the president indicated.
Also, 4chan will still break it.
Kent
Well, he’s not technically wrong about firing the entire National Pandemic Response Team from the NSC. Technically that was John Bolton during his short tenure there. But obviously that isn’t the sort of thing the National Security Advisor does on their own. He would have to have clearance/sign-off from the Oval Office to do that.
Another reason John Bolton is not our friend.
lamh36
@lamh36:
I left BR and had to head to work for noon. I made it in just enough time to be on time for work. I actually worked 1/2 a shift today.
Guys…OMG guys… it was CRAZY at work when I got there. My hospital has a patient population that the EXACT elderly target for Coronavirus! The ICU areas where we put patients in isolation until testing results come back has been full since yesterday.
It was sooo weird, I was literally at the State Public health lab this morning. And learned some new information about their workload and workforce that made me more sympathetic…but still.
It was CRAZY! I mean my lil hospital aint’ nothing compared to the bigger hospitals in town, and I can only imagine how crazy it is there.
TS (the original)
@Mary G:
When there was a real President – senior White House Officials had names. They stood by what they said. They weren’t afeared of being fired if their name got mentioned.
Another Scott
@mad citizen:
It sounds like he’s saying he works for Google, but Twitter is often inscrutable to me. Dunno.
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
Baud
@lamh36:
I’m glad I’m not in the health business. Can’t imagine.
Amir Khalid
@lamh36:
I hope you and your colleagues stay safe while you’re all on the frontline of this.
TS (the original)
@Martin: And I foolishly believed what he said (or what one of his sycophants wrote). No wonder it is so hard to get the deplorables to believe the truth about this horror show when someone who knows trump lies all the time believes something he said.
Mo Salad
@Ken: 1. There is no period after the “S”. It is not short for anything. It is literally just “S”.
2. Failed haberdasher.
lamh36
@PenAndKey: yep. I’m a Med Tech and I worked in Clincial Micro labs my entire career. The position I’m up for is for Public Health Lab Supervisor
NotMax
Gee, I wonder what the questions will be about at the debate this Sunday.
Mart
I thought they must of given the fat hazard good stuff to snort today. He was nasty to reporters with hard questions, and repeatedly lied, but he was very good at it.
lamh36
@Mary G: The answers didn’t scare me from wanting the job, so that’s good. I can def see myself using it as a stepping stone to eventual getting a job as a Micro Lab Mgr.
What I need now even with my Masters degree, is work experience as a Supervisor. I’m trying to get out of hospital clinical lab, and this experience coupled with my Masters degree will make it esier to leave clinical labs behind
RSA
From the Mother Jones article. I can’t be the only one (between Generation X and the Boomers, for context) who thinks the President sounds like a pre-schooler in his common use of “nasty”, can I?
RedDirtGirl
John mentioned The Shock Doctrine recently. This is disaster capitalism at its finest. Grover Norquist wanted to shrink government to an easily – drownable size. Now the captains of industry can buy it cheap and strip it for parts.
HumboldtBlue
Yo-Yo Ma sharing his comfort music.
Dan B
My neighbor across the street has Covid-19. And two schools near us had students test positive. It’s a concern because our next door neighbor is the principal’s assistant for another nearby school. Her daughter, son in law, and their newborn live together. We’ve got very old and infirm neighbors.
And there are friends who say they can’t be socially distant. It infuriates me that they don’t consider the people they could infect.
We are looking for zinc lozenges, when the stores are mostly empty late tonight.
GC
@Ken:
Pushed for universal health care.
Nuked civilians.
Do-nothing congress.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@lamh36:
Hope you get the job!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@lamh36:
Do you want to work in research labs as a supervisor?
NotMax
@Mo Salad
3. Added the balcony to the design when the White House was gutted and reconstructed from the outside in.
4. Some kind of bombing overseas.
(#4 a lame attempt at a present day student response.)
PenAndKey
Truth be told, until you get to director level you’ll actually find that your supervisor/management experience is the more valuable skill set to highlight. I had a somewhat unorthodox education. I had a little over a decade of manufacturing supervisory experience under my belt before going to college and I stopped at a BSc in microbiology. I got my lab supervisor spot thanks to my experience more than my degree, to be honest.
cain
@lamh36:
BEST OF LUCK! I hope you get the job!!!!
Also fuck COVID-19!
gwangung
Just noting that the theatre artists in Seattle are not letting things go without a response. Plans are being made to livestream plays (including, hopefully, MINE), and even now, a number of staged readings have switched to streaming, starting TOMORROW.
lamh36
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Reference labs. So basically clinicial labs without hospital politics or patients
Mary G
This is giving me whiplash, but I guess it’s good:
Take all the credit, liar. Nobody believes you had shit to do with it except whine and waffle.
RedDirtGirl
@lamh36: Thanks for the report!! How exciting!
lamh36
Coworker with kids: Did you hear, SCHOOLS CLOSED DUE TO CORONOVIRUS for a month…so I may not be working much…
Supervisor: So I guess the rest of the crew will have to take over the workload…
Coworker with no kids: https://media.giphy.com/media/cmx1aPhEZENdBywHwF/giphy.gif
lamh36
Another Scott
@Amir Khalid: 6. He has no middle name.
7. He was from Independence.
8. He headed some sort of anti-corruption committee during the war before FDR picked him to be vice president.
Cheers,
Scott.
patrick II
@HumboldtBlue:
They need to get WaterGirl involved.
Mary G
Baud
@Mary G:
Yep. Thanks, Nancy Pelosi.
Thaddeu
https://twitter.com/skolanach/status/1238570278264827904?s=20
Leadership 101 #responsibility
Martin
@Mary G: That was someone telling Trump that if he opposes it, Nancy will dunk on him so hard it’ll be June before he can stand again.
Old Dan and Little Ann
I start remote teaching on Monday. Might be 6 weeks at least.
TS (the original)
@Mary G:
So he told the staff it was unacceptable, saw the feedback & dropped the staff over the usual cliff.
Chris T.
Sure, but if you abbreviate his middle name `S`to `S.`, you get the period! It’s nicer that way because it’s shorter and easier to remember.
(do I need a snark-mark?)
PenAndKey
@lamh36: Judge Dannenberg isn’t pulling any punches:
This needs to be said loudly and repeatedly, and it’s good to see someone actually having the guts to do so.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@HumboldtBlue:
That’s lovely. Thanks for the link.
lamh36
Oh another thing on the job I interviewed for today. it’s a public health job, so I may even be able to qualify for loan forgiveness
Dorothy A. Winsor
@lamh36:
It sounds like this was a good interview. Go you!
mali muso
So I’m trying to decide whether or not to let the kiddo go to daycare next week, which for whatever reason remains open despite the locals schools being closed. I will be working from home for the next two weeks, and solo parenting as DH is out of town, so I would definitely be more productive if I didn’t have to entertain a 3 year old. BUT, sending her to daycare to exchange germs with other germy toddlers seems to run counter to the whole social distancing thing. What to do…
Martin
So, there’s a thing called Goodhart’s law: “When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.”
Possibly the greatest example of this happened just this week with Trump not wanting the cruise ship passengers to be evacuated because it would cause his numbers to go up. A low number was the target. Once it became a target, it could no longer be relied on.
I’m not saying the infected number isn’t important – it is – but we can’t trust it. We don’t want the fatalities number to be high either, and a low number there is also going to be a target (the target, in fact) but its a harder number to cover up because of how we determine cause of death. That’s the number I focus on. I would focus on hospitalized as well if available (I think NY will start reporting that) for the reasons that lamh@49 illustrates.
Mary G
@lamh36: @PenAndKey: Wow. I need a cigarette.
Mike in DC
@Mary G: As I understand it, most deaths from COVID will manifest as acute respiratory failure similar to severe pneumonia. So any spikes in fever deaths, pneumonia, etc are likely due to COVID, even if undiagnosed.
J R in WV
@lamh36:
Best of luck, young Master of Science in Microbiology, with your job application and career. (or whatever the official degree title is — maybe you should have taken a transcript of the grad program with for the interviewers?)
We’re all rooting for your wild success~!!~
JanieM
@lamh36: Good luck with the job!!!
@lamh36: And thanks for the link to Dannenberg’s letter. Wow.
prostratedragon
@lamh36:
Sounds like the interview was a very good experience. Hope it pays off for you in a job.
lamh36
Wait, the Mayor of Miami tested positive for Coronovirus
https://twitter.com/FrancisSuarez/status/1238587698186723328
Amir Khalid
@Another Scott:
Per Mo Salad (who might be a Liverpool fan) #55, Truman’s middle name is the letter S.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: I so hope this job comes your way!!!
Another Scott
@lamh36: Fingers crossed ++
Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
HalfAssedHomesteader
lamh36
@J R in WV: (Health Care Management)…and thx.
Since it’s a state job, I may actually have to submit transcripts, so they’ll likely get one from me anyway if I go further in the process…LOL
Another Scott
@Amir Khalid: Kinda sematics, I guess. :-)
Snopes:
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
J R in WV
@Amir Khalid:
My dad called a local politician a cheap crook repeatedly in editorials, got sued, lost, damages were $1.00 (one dollar) yet he (and the company) hired a DC white shoe law firm to appeal to the Supremes, IIRC cost $20,000 back in the early 1960s. They won.
Dad said if he hadn’t done that, every scalawag he ever criticized would have been suing them, but after winning in the Supreme Court, which was a BIG HEADLINE in his paper, no one ever sued again, ever. It’s in libel law textbooks still.
There was a ton of vandalism too, paint thrown on the side of the house, phone calls threatening to throw acid on me so I couldn’t walk to school anymore, herbicide sprayed on the shrubs and trees and lawn. This was before the lawsuit, IIRC. I was in early grades, just a little guy, didn’t know about the phone threats til years later.
Small town politics, guy thought he was King Dick of the county. Not so much. Dad had a lot of grit!
Aleta
@lamh36: That’s pretty cool.
Interesting to hear about your questions to them etc. too. Good luck!
Ken
@Martin: It might have been some of the big players who stayed long in the market today expecting the bill to be passed. It appears the Dow average is one of the few things Trump understands.
Mo Salad
@NotMax: During that reconstruction he was staying at Blair House, where he was subjected to an assassination attempt by Puerto Rican separatists.
Geminid
Truman held the Roosevelt coalitiion together one last time when he beat Dewey on 1948. And he had 3rd and fourth party opponents Henry Wallace and Strom Thurmond, both Democratic party defectors, challenging from the left and the right. One hell of a political feat. Besides the accomplishments mentioned already, he presided over the post WW2 demobilizaton, and the transition of the war time economy to peacetime. I remember thinking when Bill Clinton concluded his presidency, that Clinton did OK, but his toughest challenge would have been Truman’s 7th or 8th toughest.
Ken
@HalfAssedHomesteader: Or volcano monitoring systems. I’m trying to remember, didn’t some Republican mock those in a State of the Union response, only to have a volcano in Alaska erupt a few days later?
Suzanne
@lamh36: I believe in you! Good luck! It sounds like you did great!
My house went up on the market at lunchtime. Four groups have looked at it so far. Three more are already scheduled for tomorrow. Please PLEASE think good house-selling thoughts for me.
Ken
@J R in WV: Hmm, I think you just revealed enough data so that we can find your secret identity, “JR”. Can’t be too many Supreme Court cases that fit.
And congratulations on your dad’s victory.
Amir Khalid
@J R in WV:
Not everyone in journalism has balls like your dad. In my day senior editors at Malaysian newspapers were typically picked by the political parties that owned them (the papers, that is) through business proxies. It was also common for an ambitious journo to cultivate a political patron. It may still be; such habits die hard.
Martin
@Ken: Good thought. Hadn’t considered that.
Martin
@Ken: Bobby Jindal.
Lapassionara
@J R in WV: Wow. What a story. Your Dad rocked!
Amir Khalid
@Ken:
It’s not a thing Trump would have had occasion to learn about. The Trump Org has always been privately held, nicht wahr?
lollipopguild
Truman was in France in WW1 in an artillery unit, making him a combat veteran. Very different man/president from prezident golden calf.
Mike in NC
Harry Truman’s greatest accomplishment might just be the fact that he never wanted to be president. It was forced on him. Unlike dozens of weasels in the time since.
Amir Khalid
@Suzanne:
I done thunk a good house-selling thought for thee.
japa21
OT, but wanted to bring folks up to date (as if any of you care) about what I am seeing at Costco/ This morning I talked about how yesterday was busier than anything I have ever seen there. Turns out approximately 8,000 people came through the doors. This morning they opened early as the line of people waiting to get in was about 1/8 mile long.
They had gotten in lots of water and some TP and paper towels. Only the water remained by the time I came in for my shift at 12:45. By 5:30 the water was also gone.
New things they are out of.
Baked beans, Nutella, Cheerios, any olive oil other than extra virgin, 6 different items that were in their new sales flyer, 2 types of their dry dog food, salt (for seasoning), Kirkland cheese pizzas, Spam and the item that proved to me we are facing an apocalypse, puppy training pads. Also bread.
Things they are close to out of:
Sugar, oatmeal, several dried fruits, most frozen vegetables,.
I am sure I am forgetting things. Next time you are in a Costco, check the shelves above the items that are being sold. Many are empty. Everything is supply chain driven.
J R in WV
@Ken:
I’m so secretive… I’m not hiding much at all.
Hell, Fed Ex has trouble finding me with full name and address, that’s how far up the hollow I am. They have to stop and ask neighbors for directions, and still leave packages for me at my neighbor’s house.
If I tell them not to direct strangers up here, I’m solid gone. We ask people to ship Post Office or UPS. Those folks are good union people, not contractors taken advantage of.
ETA: I like to think I inherited at least a little grit from my dad.
Mary G
Wow, now do Tucker, Sean, and Laura.
japa21
Truman integrated the armed forces, a major accomplishment.
Chris T.
@japa21: Where is your Costco (at least in a sort of general sense, if you don’t want to get too specific)?
NotMax
@japa21
Does your store have a liquor and wine department? Mildly curious about what there may be a run on.
hedgehog mobile
@Roger Moore: Prefreably in The Hague.
J R in WV
@Lapassionara:
He did. Rockefeller Republican, strong supporter of Martin Luther King Jr, kind and gentle parent, loved by his daughter-in-law as well as his nieces and sons. Atheist, Nudist, Republican a long time ago, may have been unique in the universe! Loved classical music, theater, wrote both a column and an editorial or two most of the 6 days a week his paper published. Founded the first FM radio station in the state, a classical — jazz — broadway station.
Died on election day 2004 after a long battle with leukemia. Miss him every day. I strive to live up to his example.
lamh36
mali muso
@japa21: Woah! I live less than a mile away from our Costco and it’s almost like a regular grocery stop for me because it’s typically so convenient. But I’ve given it a wide berth since last week.
japa21
@Chris T.: Chicago NW suburbs
japa21
@NotMax: Yes it does. And yes, it has been quite busy.
Skepticat
And for me.
Suzanne
@japa21: Mr. Suzanne was at Costco earlier in the week and they were out of paper stuff, but they had everything else. But panic is setting in. (Panic is not the same as preparedness, of course.)
He went to the store to pick up a prescription, and they were mostly stocked. Running low on pasta, but okay on most other stuff.
NotMax
FYI, at the CDC site –
Regulations and Laws That May Apply During a Pandemic
Of some note from there (emphasis added):
Gin & Tonic
So that idiot Utah Jazz player, Rudy Gobert, who made a point earlier this week of rubbing his hands all over the microphones and tape recorders on the table at their “press availability” and then later tested positive for COVID-19, apparently infected an elementary school kid here in RI who’d gotten his autograph at Boston Garden back last Friday, when the Jazz played the Celtics.
Great work, dude.
lamh36
That’s a shame…(do not laugh…do not laugh)
Ken
@Mary G: What happened? Did she miss the pivot from “coronavirus is hoax made up by Democrats” to “coronavirus is horrifying danger that only Trump can prevent”? (Which is all very 1984 to me: Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.)
Amir Khalid
@lamh36:
It’s Ted Cruz. Why not laugh?
Mrs. D. Ranged in AZ
Well this thread is probably dead but I just had to add how much I appreciate the nod, Anne Laurie, to Gabriel Garcia Marquez in the title.
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
It’s a form of Cruz control.
;)
Mai naem mobile
Jeebus, I just went to Trader Joe’s and it was fucking cleaned out of a bunch of stuff. A lot of fruit gone. The fruit and veggie stuff was reduced down to apples, onions and avocados(I think their avocadoes are on the expensive side.) A lot of the junky snacky food gone(tortilla chips, popcorn.) Their regular red salsa. Fucking oatmeal gone. Most pasta – gone.Brown sugar gone. A lot of empty shelves at a fucking Trader Joe’s. My sister told me earlier there were lines at grocery stores near where she lives and I thought she was exaggerating. People have gone nuts.
Skepticat
A Canadian friend just sent me this, saying it’s spot-on for tRump’s response to the current situation.
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fthevirologist%2Fstatus%2F1238227100521369600&widget=Tweet
Uncle Cosmo
I have been referring to COVID-19 as Old Farts’ Flu (OFF), which is misleading but those of us old (fart) enough to recall when “to off” was slang for “to kill” may note a certain bitter appropriateness:
At that it’s still not as revolting as a slang term for COVID-19 I heard from a young whippersnapper at a Big Lots store** earlier this evening; Boomer Remover.
** Which FTR had a decent stock of inexpensive paper towels & toilet paper & even a few bottles of hand soap.
A Ghost to Most
@Suzanne: My wife hit the grocery store around noon today. She said it was crazy, with lots of empty shelves. Since I’m the early riser, I will hit the store at 5 AM opening, to get what she couldn’t, assuming they restock over night.
Amir Khalid
@Gin & Tonic:
He deserves a big fine and a long suspension for that reckless conduct.
Mai naem mobile
@Suzanne: did you end up taking the job in Pittsburgh(I think that’s what you said?)
Eunicecycle
@Suzanne: My daughter put her house on the market Wednesday and had 4 offers by the next day. All at or over asking price. And this is in Ohio! Good luck.
Amir Khalid
Some YouTubers I follow have been griping that their videos got demonetised for mentioning coronavirus. What’s up with that?
Ken
I dunno, but I’m going to nominate that first sentence for this year’s “Imagine Going Back In Time” award.
WaterGirl
@Suzanne: done!
Ken
Dude, stay away from Mar-A-Lago.
WaterGirl
@J R in WV: Love your dad! And I think I already love your mom, from your stories.
No wonder you don’t take any crap.
danielx
Note – sister in law the radiologist saw four cases today. Same diagnosis, bilateral interstitial pneumonia – which is the one I’ve heard mentioned from Italy (over and over).
Suzanne
@Mai naem mobile: Yes, I took the Pittsburgh job. I am already working for that firm and have been working remotely from home, with some travel. My main project is in Cleveland, though. All travel is on hold until this gets figured out.
WaterGirl
@Gin & Tonic: You can get it just from an autograph on a piece of paper? Yikes!
Brachiator
The Atlantic has a fiery condemnation of Trump. The final paragraphs:
I wish it were so. But his defenders and supporters are willing to go down in flames with him. They will adjust to his lies, erase or reverse his statements as needed. They are his human sharpie.
It’s up to the rest of us to repeal and replace this charlatan.
sdhays
I just have to say that last picture is breathtaking.
@lamh36: Congrats in the strong interview and good luck on the job!
Amir Khalid
@WaterGirl:
He would have been physically more than close enough to the kid to pass the virus, I think.
frosty
@lamh36: Good luck! It sounds like the same process I went through for a County job many years ago. I had two standard questions: What’s the best (worst) part of working here?
Sounds like a good opportunity for you, fingers crossed!
Mai naem mobile
@Suzanne: Good for you. I don’t think you’ll have a problem selling the house as long as you’re not asking a ridiculously unrealistic high price for it. I have a feeling you’re selling right before a recession hits. I still can’t believe the crazy prices in Phoenix. I see prices higher than the prices right before the crash in ’07.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Amir Khalid: One of the tech channels I follow had problems with that, went with “the beer flu” for a while and can’t say that either. The idea is to keep out misinformation about the virus, but it’s difficult to discuss some of the problems with tech(iPhones being delayed) without mentioning the virus.
Brachiator
@lamh36:
Hope your interview went well. Best of luck to you.
danielx
@danielx:
Plus the dipshit ER doc didn’t think, so he, all the nurses, techs, etc all were exposed. Sis in law was all “great, who’s gonna run the CT scans?”
Another Scott
The JH coronavirus map seems to be having issues being updated now. I didn’t see the numbers change most of the day. The US total is 2134 now, but it shows no cases in GA. News reports indicate there are 42 confirmed cases there.
It’s a huge job. I hope they find a way to make it more timely. It’s a great resource.
Cheers,
Scott.
Gin & Tonic
@WaterGirl: Probably shook hands, or gave a high-five, or the kid handed him a pen to sign with and took it back.
Martin
Italy is making no apparent progress thus far. They haven’t bent their fatality curve at all. In fact, today it got ever so slightly worse.
They’re on pace to hit 10K fatalities in a week and 100K a week after that.
This is what a makeshift hospital in Italy looks like. They did the same thing in Wuhan. That’s us in a week, at least somewhere. Fatality rate in those facilities is around 5%, compared to around 1% for a non-stressed hospital.
Martin
@Another Scott: They’re only updating the data once a day. It just updated about 35 minutes ago. I’m using that data for my modeling.
Another Scott
CalculatedRiskBlog:
Bill McBride is one of the few people who was screaming about the housing bubble before it blew up under W. He looks at lots of numbers every day.
Be careful, and hang on.
:-(
Cheers,
Scott.
Martin
@Another Scott: So, typically in data science you run a process that grabs the data from your external source, then cleans it up and merges it into your internal data source. Odds are the state of GA didn’t update their data until after JH ran their process.
That happens. They’re after overall trends so having a single data element being off isn’t that big of a deal. Italy missed their cutoff yesterday.
JanieM
@Martin:
Wait, that JH chart shows 3062 deaths in Hubei, but Italy will be at three+ times that many a week from now, and 100,000 two weeks from now?
Seriously?
Edited to fix a typo.
Brachiator
@Martin:
The distribution of fatalities by age groups resembles what was seen in China. I could not quickly find a breakdown by gender.
1.2% of the fatalities involved people age 0 to 18
22.8% of the fatalities involved people age 19 to 50
37.5% of the fatalities involved people age 51 to 70
38.5% of the fatalities involved people older than age 70
Another Scott
@Martin: Georgia’s numbers are back in the JH map now. 2174 confirmed US cases, 42 in GA. I guess it was a glitch of some-sort.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
KSinMA
@lamh36: Very best of luck!
ziggy
@Another Scott: That’s odd, I can see a few people stopping a remodel due to their paychecks being cut, but ALL his jobs have canceled? We are having our floors redone on Monday, the installer called to double check that we are still on, seemed a bit nervous about us canceling. The psychological effects of the uncertainty may have a much bigger effect on the economy than the actual physical restrictions.
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G: No no no. Too nice and tar should be used for roofs, feathers for down pillows or comforters.
American Nuremberg trials (that probably will end in hangings for some)
Suzanne
O/T, but, uhhhhhh….. doesn’t look like Andrew Gillum had a good day.
moonbat
@Amir Khalid: We should just keep sending Covid-19 carrying people at him indefinitely to keep him out of the public eye. (Mostly kidding…mostly)
opiejeanne
@Mai naem mobile: Did they buy all of the cabbage and sweet potatoes? Those plus onions are the first to disappear here, near Seattle.
opiejeanne
@Uncle Cosmo: I would have told his manager.
and my name is not Karen.
opiejeanne
@Ken: 1.he used to mow his own lawn in Independence, MO after his Presidency had ended, much to the embarrassment of other people who lived in that town.
2. An old chestnut that may be true: Harry Truman was talking about farming and explaining the role of manure on soil.
“You should tell the president to say fertilizer,” a friend told Mrs. Truman.
And Mrs. Truman replied: “You don’t know how long it took me to get him to say manure.”
opiejeanne
@Amir Khalid: His namesake died in the Mount St Helens eruption, as well as said namesake’s cats.
opiejeanne
@Mo Salad: I had an uncle named R B with no periods. The army can’t have that sort of name so during WWII he was known as Robert.
Leto
@Martin: So that’s about 10 miles away from the base I was stationed at, Ghedi Air Base. Ugh… I have no idea if they’ve sent dependents home or if they’re still there and having to ride this out.
opiejeanne
@Another Scott: FDR didn’t pick Harry Truman, the party thrust Truman on him. Roosevelt considered him a hick from the sticks.
Martin
@JanieM: Yep. China got on top of their problem early. In fact, they had about as many cases as we do now when they locked the country down. They started reducing the number of new cases immediately, but you couldn’t really see that until 12 days later.
That’s why early intervention is so important. Nothing humans do can ramp exponentially. You can’t ramp production that fast, or shift resources. If you get behind an exponential function, you’ve lost – there’s literally nothing you can do except take increasingly small chunks out of it. But if you get in front of it early and can knock it down to a growth rate that you can scale ahead of, you can beat it. China has so far. South Korea nearly has, though they’re wobbling just a little.
We’re a week behind Italy. At 10K deaths Italy’s hospital system will be completely overrun, at least in some areas. In the US, we can go a bit longer than that because we’re 5x larger. But we’re talking 3 days maybe?
Martin
@Brachiator: The breakdown shouldn’t resemble China to much. China has very few people in the older age brackets. Italy has a lot. Italy had the lowest birth rate in the world for quite a while – lots of old people, not many young ones. China had this huge population boom before the one child policy and then it leveled off.
I mean, I would expect the fatality rate for comparable age groups to be similar. It’s possible it’s hitting the populations differently. China typically has multigenerational households. That’s why I’m worried about the US. We pile all of our older residents in concentrated communities. They’re just bombs waiting to go off for something like this. If we can protect those communities, we could do really well here, but we’re not really doing that. There’s going to be a Zumba class in Florida that ends up killing 10K people.
opiejeanne
@Martin: The “somewhere it will happen” is likely to be the PNW.
This afternoon I looked at mr opiejeanne and said, “I don’t want to die, and I don’t want you to die.” He agreed with this sentiment. “So, what are we going to do?”
The youngest is in Seattle and has agreed to do some shopping for us so we can stay on our almost acre and hopefully stay safe. She says she’ll wear gloves and a mask when she delivers stuff to us; her mil sent her a shipment of nitrile gloves and masks, just because she could.
We will do some intense gardening once the soil warms up enough, so we will have fresh produce most of the summer.
opiejeanne
@Martin: We are now getting emails from Icelandair as they try to figure out Trump’s ban on travel from Europe, but also the shifting epicenter which is now Europe. They are already offering to reschedule the flight, but I’m going to wait until the 15th of April to see what they end up doing. They’re already cancelling some flights to and from the US. I thought I’d rebook if they’d allow the same dates next year, but usually they don’t want to book a year out. And now I’m wondering if a year away is going to be long enough. I am surprised Washington hasn’t been singled out as a place no airline wants to serve right now.
joel hanes
@ziggy:
People do not want a person from a different household coming into their house during the pandemic unless it’s essential.
Anne Laurie
Two things: One, every night since I started running a twitter scan for ‘coronavirus’, there’s many many webcam-scam-style video tweets with scam-ish ‘headlines’ — kpop coronavirus hot chix vodka — using the word as a lure. I’m sure it’s at least as bad on a social media channel it’s easier to monetize.
Two, YouTube has announced it’s added extra content supervisors to remove ‘unhelpful’ or ‘misleading’ coronavirus related content.
So I suspect some people using the word sarcastically, or even casually, are getting ‘demonetized’ by tired moderators too busy thumping scammers & pr0n huxters to discriminate.
Uncle Cosmo
@opiejeanne: All the kid said was he’d heard people call COVID-19 “Boomer Remover.” (We were discussing mattresses at the time.) I’m gonna roust out his manager in & get him in trouble for that??
Jeebus cripes, some curmudgeons are getting really testy in their – dare I say it? – old age.
(ETA: I presume the “Karen” reference is something snarky – I missed it.)
arielibra
Upon this heap of dead thread let me add: Truman always insisted on washing his own socks and underwear, even in the White House; he felt this was not a task one human being should ever have to do for another.
trollhattan
@Brachiator:
Nixon had supporters waving fan signs as he boarded the helicopter for that final ride away from the White House and we all know True Trumpers will never quit him. But kneejerk Republican voters disquieted by what they bought in ’16 are surely having a tough time with their purchase. And if they don’t personally know somebody hit or even killed by the virus, everything they need to know will be revealed in their next 401(k) statements.