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Blood needed

by David Anderson|  March 18, 20205:02 pm| 65 Comments

This post is in: Anderson On Health Insurance, COVID-19 Coronavirus

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From ABC News:

The American Red Cross said they’re now facing a “severe blood shortage,” as blood drives across the country continue to be cancelled as concerns over the novel coronavirus pandemic grow….

As of Tuesday morning, nearly 2,700 Red Cross blood drives in the U.S. have been cancelled, resulting in approximately 86,000 fewer blood donations, according to a statement from the organization….

If you are capable of safely donating blood and you are in a low risk group regarding COVID-19, please find a way to make a donation this weekend.  I’m scheduled to donate a pint on Thursday morning.  It will be an excellent excuse for a face to face conversation with people that I am not related to.

We’re in this together, so let’s start bleeding.

 

 

 

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  1. 1.

    Mowgli

    March 18, 2020 at 5:15 pm

    i have an appointment for tomorrow, let’s do this small thing to help.

  2. 2.

    Roger Moore

    March 18, 2020 at 5:19 pm

    Please note that other blood products- platelets, plasma, etc.- can be even more valuable, and you’re eligible to donate more frequently than whole blood.  They typically take longer to donate, but these days plenty of people will have the time.  And donating blood or blood products is a great excuse to get out of the house if you’re feeling cooped up.  I donated platelets last Thursday, so I’m not eligible to donate this weekend, but I am scheduled to donate next Thursday.

    Also, too, if you’re eligible (under 40 and in good enough health to donate blood), you should sign up with Be The Match.  Your chances of being called to donate are slim, but if you are called it’s a unique opportunity to save a life.

  3. 3.

    not_a_cylon

    March 18, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    Schedule an appointment! I naively walked in last saturday, and was told the wait would have been up to 2hrs as they prioritize existing appointments over walk-ins. I scheduled while I was there, and will be donating blood Thursday night.

  4. 4.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 18, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    Can gays donate yet or is my O- still not good enough

  5. 5.

    catclub

    March 18, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    I gave about march 5. I know my next eligible is cinco de mayo.

     

    Anybody else get the hard sell to give platelets via the filtering machine? I hated it.

    I think I did it at least twice, though.

    My BP is fairly low, and it would regularly alarm on low suction, unless I furiously pumped the

    stress ball.

     

    I went back to regular whole blood donation. Also 3 times faster.

  6. 6.

    Icedfire

    March 18, 2020 at 5:44 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: They still look askance at my gay O+, since I have sex with my husband.

  7. 7.

    Stuart Frasier

    March 18, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    I still can’t donate because of mad cow disease.

  8. 8.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 18, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    @Icedfire: The horror!

  9. 9.

    Roger Moore

    March 18, 2020 at 5:47 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    You’re still not allowed to donate if you’ve had sex with another man in the past 12 months.  You’re also not allowed to donate if you’ve lived for more than 3 months in the UK between 1980 and 1996, more than 5 years in Europe after 1980, have traveled to an area with endemic malaria in the past 3 years, or have had a tattoo or piercing in the past 12 months.  There are also a whole bunch of drugs that prevent you from donating for various lengths of time after taking them, anywhere from a few days to the rest of your life.

  10. 10.

    Jeffro

    March 18, 2020 at 5:51 pm

    Thanks for the prompt – just made an appointment and I guess I’m not the only one, the soonest they could get me in is next Thursday(!)

    Red Cross, c’mon man, you can use my garage if you want a non-hospital/non-ER site to do one of these things!

    But still.  Thanks David!

  11. 11.

    Cermet

    March 18, 2020 at 5:53 pm

    I would seriously consider donnating platlets (and glad to hear about someone doing that!) but being over 60, currently shouldn’t be out there. Aside, I’ve donnate many times (whole blood) since I was 18.

  12. 12.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 18, 2020 at 5:55 pm

    @Roger Moore:  They recently rescinded my “permanent” deferral for having had babesiosis. I’m eligible again next week, so I’ve made an appointment.

  13. 13.

    different-church-lady

    March 18, 2020 at 5:55 pm

    How the fuck am I supposed to donate blood when I’M NOT ALLOWED TO TOUCH A GODDAMNED THING OUTSIDE OF MY FRONT DOOR?!?

  14. 14.

    The Dangerman

    March 18, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    I’ve donated quite a lot over the years; used to do challenges on who gets the bag filled first. I almost always won. I drain like a madman if they get the vein…

    …but I wonder if the medicine I am on DQ’s me? If anyone has any great links on what medicines DQ a person I, like Ross Perot, am all ears (truth, especially after going Kojak yesterday).

  15. 15.

    Roger Moore

    March 18, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    @catclub:

    Anybody else get the hard sell to give platelets via the filtering machine? I hated it.

    I think I did it at least twice, though.

    I got the hard sell until I finally gave in.  I can do two units in about 2 hours.  I also have problems with the machine alarming, mostly because I have side veins*.  I find that pumping my hand does very little to help with the alarms.  The nurses actually discourage me from pumping too hard, since they say tensing up the muscles can close off the vein.  Instead, they keep my arm warm and turn down the flow rate.  The apheresis nurses at my work are really good at what they do.  At any rate, I’ve toughed it out through about 140 donations.

    *Some people have a single, large vein in the hollow of their elbow, and others have two smaller veins on either side.  The large vein makes for easier donations.

  16. 16.

    dimmsdale

    March 18, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    How the hell do you know if you’re in a “low risk” group? It seems like every day I read something suggesting there ain’t no such animal; previously healthy people catch it and it can be bad, YOUNG people can catch it and it can be bad, athletes can catch it and it can be…etc etc etc.

    Makes me feel better to know the blood centers are busy–I stopped off at one last Thursday without an appointment, waited for over an hour to be seen, only to be turned away because my iron was too low. So now I’m working on that.

    I suppose the idea is for each of us to flatten the curve as best we can, but assume that sooner or later, we’ll either get it, or (if lucky) either miss it or get a mild version.

    Stay safe, everybody.

  17. 17.

    Roger Moore

    March 18, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    They recently rescinded my “permanent” deferral for having had babesiosis.

    Wow.  I’ve seen babesiosis on the questionnaire and never given it much thought except to think it must suck to have had it.

  18. 18.

    Scuffletuffle

    March 18, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    Went Tuesday after work.

  19. 19.

    Roger Moore

    March 18, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    @The Dangerman:

    Here’s the Red Cross’s list of drugs and their deferral times.  It’s not listed there, but if you’re donating platelets, you’re not supposed to take aspirin or ibuprofen in any form for 48 hours before donating.

  20. 20.

    debbie

    March 18, 2020 at 6:04 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Arthritis-type drugs and blood thinners. They don’t want anyone with autoimmune disorders. If you have asthma, it has to be “well controlled.” Not sure how they define that. Four strikes, so I’m out.

  21. 21.

    Mark

    March 18, 2020 at 6:05 pm

     

    Upper right corner, find locations near you:  https://www.redcrossblood.org/

  22. 22.

    BroD

    March 18, 2020 at 6:06 pm

    78 & compromised, I’ve decided I’d better not.

  23. 23.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 18, 2020 at 6:10 pm

    @Roger Moore: It did.

  24. 24.

    Roger Moore

    March 18, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    @debbie:

    It’s not the autoimmune disorders they’re worried about.  They don’t want blood that’s full of blood thinners, since they really want the blood to be able to clot, and many anti-inflammatory drugs are also anticoagulants (e.g. aspirin).  There are also a bunch of drugs for skin conditions that are teratogens, and they don’t want to infuse those into a pregnant woman.  And there are a few oddballs like bovine insulin from the UK and growth hormone from human cadavers, which might contain prions.

  25. 25.

    Al Z.

    March 18, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    I donate every 8 weeks. I think I’m eligible again on March 24th. Hopefully I can stay well another week. I wonder if they are doing any screening for corona since some donors may be symptom free?

  26. 26.

    Sure Lurkalot

    March 18, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    I wish I could donate, especially my O-, but I currently don’t weigh enough and the Covid anxiety isn’t helping that.

    Grateful that you posted this and for all you who donated blood products.

  27. 27.

    Roger Moore

    March 18, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    @Al Z.:

    I wonder if they are doing any screening for corona since some donors may be symptom free?

    The last time I donated, they only asked questions about exposure and symptoms.  They checked my temperature, but they always do that anyway.  They still don’t have enough test kits to test anyone but the highest priority patients, much less every blood donor.

  28. 28.

    Mary G

    March 18, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    My rheumatoid arthritis rules me out for life. I admire all of you so much for your devotion. I have to have transfusions after surgery and have had a lot of surgeries, so thank you for saving my life.

  29. 29.

    skerry

    March 18, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    My blood is unwanted due to potential Mad Cow disease from the early ’90s.

  30. 30.

    trollhattan

    March 18, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    @skerry: 
    You were Republican? [ref. Charlie Peirce “Republican prion disease.]

  31. 31.

    captnkurt

    March 18, 2020 at 6:18 pm

    Considering donating, but are they testing incoming blood for COVID? What if I am in the asymptomatic phase and don’t know?

  32. 32.

    Al Z.

    March 18, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    @Roger Moore:  @captnkurt: Yeah that’s my experience. I was just wondering if there is any danger of transmitting COVID-19 through blood; but apparently there’s no evidence of this – so donate away! https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/coronavirus–covid-19–and-blood-donation.html

  33. 33.

    Percysowner

    March 18, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    I can’t donate. 1) I’m over 65, so I’m a high risk group. 2) A few years ago I donated and got a false positive on the HIV test. My doctor double checked and it WAS false, but once that happens you are out forever. I’ll talk to my kids about donating.

  34. 34.

    Cacti

    March 18, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    Sorry, can’t do it.  I’m social distancing.

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    March 18, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    @captnkurt: I read that they are not testing for COVID-19 for blood donations.  I also read that it is not transferred through blood, but I don’t have a link to verify that, so take it for what that’s worth.

  36. 36.

    debbie

    March 18, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Most autoimmune disorders also involve anemia which is disqualifying. Plus science still isn’t totally sure of all of the effects autoimmune disorders may have on a body.

  37. 37.

    Mo Salad

    March 18, 2020 at 6:24 pm

    My blood donation CSB. Gave about 8 years ago. A couple of weeks earlier, I had had a one-off 24 hour bug, ran a fever, threw on some sweatclothes and buried myself in blankets. Figured I had fought something off, no big deal.

    So I ended up getting a call from the County Health department. They had to toss my blood since it tested positive for West Nile. I took the follow up tests and got cleared to give again a year or two later. Haven’t given since. I guess I should set something up for after tax season.

  38. 38.

    Al Z.

    March 18, 2020 at 6:27 pm

    @WaterGirl: according the Red Cross website

    The top priority of the Red Cross is the safety of our donors, volunteers, employees and blood recipients, and we are committed to transparency with the American public during this evolving public health emergency. There are no data or evidence that this coronavirus can be transmissible by blood transfusion, and there have been no reported cases worldwide of transmissions for any respiratory virus including this coronavirus.

  39. 39.

    Avalune

    March 18, 2020 at 6:33 pm

    ? I want to help but as I’ve said before  – I lived in the U.K. within the last five years and sustained in Europe for too long to be permitted. I try when we have them at my work and they kick me out.

  40. 40.

    laura

    March 18, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    While I’ve aged out of whole blood donations after doing son the regular since 17, spouse is a high frequency donor of platelets and plasma. He was at the blood source yesterday and reported that it was packed to the rafters with walk ins due to the sudden availability of off work workers here in Sacramento. If you can donate, do it, you’ll feel good, get a snack and likely a tee shirt.

    Curious if there’s regions were donations are more and less common.

  41. 41.

    Yutsano

    March 18, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    Put me in the autoimmune disorder category.

  42. 42.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    March 18, 2020 at 6:52 pm

    I’m 50 and a half. Healthy weight and still no known health issues. Is that low risk? My big concern isn’t for myself but my 80 year old mother in law is living with us and I don’t want to bring it home to her.

  43. 43.

    wmd

    March 18, 2020 at 6:58 pm

    Not being able to donate blood is one thing I really dislike about having had cancer a few years back,. I don’t have cancer now (thanks mainly to massive gamma radiation), but I’m permanently deferred from donating – oncologist’s orders. I gave a bit over 8 gallons in my lifetime and had a goal of giving a full half barrel keg.

  44. 44.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 18, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    I can’t give.  Mad cow danger.

  45. 45.

    Kent

    March 18, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    I couldn’t donate blood for years after returning from the Peace Corps because I was in a malaria zone.  But I have no excuse now.

    A bit off-topic.  But if ever there were some evil folks who were in need of their online lives doxed and ruined, it’s these folks who are trying to get COVID testing shut down due to patent trolling.  Click through to the article and all the horrible attorneys and people involved in this are named.

    SoftBank Owned Patent Troll, Using Monkey Selfie Law Firm, Sues To Block Covid-19 Testing, Using Theranos Patents

    Honestly, I wasn’t sure how to begin this story or how to fit all the insanity into the title. It’s a story involving patents, patent trolling, Covid-19, Theranos, and even the company that brought us all WeWork: SoftBank. Oh, and also Irell & Manella, the same law firm that once claimed it could represent a monkey in a copyright infringement dispute. You see, Irell & Manella has now filed one of the most utterly bullshit patent infringement lawsuits you’ll ever see. They are representing “Labrador Diagnostics LLC” a patent troll which does not seem to exist other than to file this lawsuit, and which claims to hold the rights to two patents (US Patents 8,283,155 and 10,533,994) which, you’ll note, were originally granted to Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos — the firm that shut down in scandal over medical testing equipment that appears to have been oversold and never actually worked. Holmes is still facing federal charges of wire fraud over the whole Theranos debacle.

    However, back in 2018, the remains of Theranos sold its patents to Fortress Investment Group. Fortress Investment Group is a SoftBank-funded massive patent troll. You may remember the name from the time last fall when Apple and Intel sued the firm, laying out how Fortress is a sort of uber-patent troll, gathering up a bunch of patents and then shaking down basically everyone. Lovely, right?

    So, this SoftBank-owned patent troll, Fortress, bought up Theranos patents, and then set up this shell company, “Labrador Diagnostics,” which decided that right in the midst of the Covid-19 pandemic it was going to sue one of the companies making Covid-19 tests, saying that its test violates those Theranos patents, and literally demanding that the court bar the firm from making those Covid-19 tests.

  46. 46.

    boatboy_srq

    March 18, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    Don’t forget to mention the “low risk” requirements still in place for other conditions.

    For example, I am an HIV risk AND a BSE risk (lived in the UK in the 80s). Plus one or two other factors. Red Cross is still screening for all of those.

  47. 47.

    Sab

    March 18, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    My niece who is home from the hospital with corona virus will be on Erin Burnett’s show tonight, then on Tucker Carlson. I slandered her in comments on this blog a few days ago about taking unnecessary risks. Turns out I had my facts completely wrong and she caught it locally while being careful. I really admire her going so public as a community service. Blowback has been harsh

    She is still really sick. Weak as a kitten. But she is alive so that is very good.

  48. 48.

    WaterGirl

    March 18, 2020 at 7:08 pm

    @What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: I would not go if my 80-year old mother lived with me.

  49. 49.

    debbie

    March 18, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    @Sab:

    Wow, hope she recovers, but why would she subject herself to Tucker Carlson and his fellow skeptics?

  50. 50.

    Martin

    March 18, 2020 at 7:13 pm

    @wmd: Rolling a barrel of blood into the Red Cross would be pretty metal.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    March 18, 2020 at 7:25 pm

    @Martin: Martin, did you want to do the Assessment post today, or wait?

  52. 52.

    Martin

    March 18, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    @WaterGirl: Sure. I’m around more now.

  53. 53.

    WaterGirl

    March 18, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    @Martin: Okay.  TaMara just put up a post from WereBear, so I’ll wait a reasonable amount of time and then put it up.

    Wondering how your daughter is doing.

  54. 54.

    eachother

    March 18, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    Donating blood is a proud thing I do.  I don’t have certain antibodies 80% of population has making their blood bad for babies.  How it is I didn’t get whatever disease it was is incomprehensible but true.  And mine is the old blood of our distant ancestors and universal.  Always thought it was interesting my blood is in common with diverse human types that don’t appear like me in any other way.  But we share blood type.

    My next donation isn’t until April.  I may be wrong but I thought it was 3 months between drainages.  Either way, for me, it is debilitating for awhile after.  I even react to the stretchy banding wrapped around the injection site.  And always, bruises and sore.  Martyr me.  But I like thinking I have to bulk back up afterwards to replenish the lost volume.  And that some little baby’s got me working for them.

  55. 55.

    Stuart Frasier

    March 18, 2020 at 7:47 pm

    @wmd: My father had donated over 10 gallons before they stopped letting us donate (for having lived in Ireland during the mad cow era).  I wonder if they will ever lift that restriction?

  56. 56.

    Another Scott

    March 18, 2020 at 8:01 pm

    Reuters:

    Special Report: How Korea trounced U.S. in race to test people for coronavirus

    Chad Terhune, Dan Levine, Hyunjoo Jin, Jane Lanhee Lee

    WORLD NEWS MARCH 18, 2020 / 2:13 PM / UPDATED 3 HOURS AGO

    20 MIN READ

    SEOUL – In late January, South Korean health officials summoned representatives from more than 20 medical companies from their lunar New Year celebrations to a conference room tucked inside Seoul’s busy train station.

    One of the country’s top infectious disease officials delivered an urgent message: South Korea needed an effective test immediately to detect the novel coronavirus, then running rampant in China. He promised the companies swift regulatory approval.

    Though there were only four known cases in South Korea at that point, “we were very nervous. We believed that it could develop into a pandemic,” one attendee, Lee Sang-won, an infectious diseases expert at the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told Reuters.

    “We acted like an army,” he said.

    A week after the Jan. 27 meeting, South Korea’s CDC approved one company’s diagnostic test. Another company soon followed. By the end of February, South Korea was making headlines around the world for its drive-through screening centers and ability to test thousands of people daily.

    South Korea’s swift action stands in stark contrast to what has transpired in the United States. Seven weeks after the train station meeting, the Koreans have tested well over 290,000 people and identified over 8,000 infections. New cases are falling off: Ninety-three were reported Wednesday, down from a daily peak of 909 two weeks earlier.

    The United States, whose first case was detected the same day as South Korea’s, is not even close to meeting demand for testing. About 60,000 tests have been run by public and private labs in a country of 330 million, federal officials said Tuesday.

    As a result, U.S. officials don’t fully grasp how many Americans have been infected and where they are concentrated – crucial to containment efforts. While more than 7,000 U.S. cases had been identified as of Wednesday, as many as 96 million people could be infected in coming months, and 480,000 could die, according to a projection prepared for the American Hospital Association by Dr. James Lawler, an infectious disease expert at the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

    […]

    Despite the new moves, Ruiz said he fears America is still weeks away from approaching what South Korea has accomplished. “I think months have been lost here,” Ruiz said. “Maybe we should look into purchasing South Korea’s tests.”

    That may happen. Both Kogene and SolGent Co, two of the COVID-19 test-makers approved in South Korea, said their companies have an eye on the U.S. market.

    “The FDA asked us to proceed with applications quickly,” Kogene executive Myoah Baek said.

    (Emphasis added.)

    (sigh)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  57. 57.

    RandyG

    March 18, 2020 at 8:05 pm

    Here’s the Red Cross eligibility criteria: https://www.redcrossblood.org/faq.html#eligibility

    If you’re considering donating, then scan through the list. Better now than signing up to donate and then discovering when you’re at the donation site that you’re not eligible; you’ll have to attest to all these criteria at that time anyway.

    I last donated on February 29th, so I’m not eligible until April 25th…. 56 days between whole blood donations. It differs for other types of blood donations. ($$$ donations have no waiting period, btw.)

  58. 58.

    Jinchi

    March 18, 2020 at 8:07 pm

    We’re in this together, so let’s start bleeding.

    Is there any concern that donors could be asymptomatic carriers?

  59. 59.

    Another Scott

    March 18, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    At today’s briefing, Trump said the Comfort is in “tip-top shape” and “can be launched over the next week or so.”

    Every briefing he's given so far is just a flurry of lies. https://t.co/guZyktVJKC— Cody Keenan (@codykeenan) March 18, 2020

    Breaking: The Comfort hospital ship won’t be able to go to NYC for weeks, @ChiefPentSpox says. Ship is in maintenance in Norfolk, Va., and Pentagon is now expediting maintenance

    — Roxana Tiron (@rtiron) March 18, 2020

    This is my shocked, shocked face.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  60. 60.

    Another Scott

    March 18, 2020 at 8:16 pm

    LIz Dye at Wonkette – Good Lord, is he going to crash the market every day with these batsh*t pressers?.

    Genius image.

    (sigh)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  61. 61.

    Another Scott

    March 18, 2020 at 8:28 pm

    https://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2020/03/update-covid-19-tests-per-day.html

    (US numbers)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  62. 62.

    dm

    March 18, 2020 at 8:29 pm

    @catclub: platelets only last a week, so there’s a constant need for them.

    My local Red Cross Center has Netflix for platelets donors (takes two hours, generally), which makes it a bit easier.  I do tend to get antsy at the one hour 45 minute mark, though.

  63. 63.

    JAFD

    March 18, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    Good evening, jackals and jackalettes !

    Used to donate fairly regularly, but the heart drugs I’m taking now rule it out (DON’T TAKE THIS IF YOU’RE PREGNANT, the PPI says)

    Otherwise, am doing OK, knock on wood.  Lotsa stuf to do in my place (housecleaning, my conscience sez), and ‘could do this if I had that one part’ projects (1/8″ basswood sheet, anyone?)

    Stay loose, sleep tight, keep hydrated, and don’t lick any wooden nickles.

  64. 64.

    wuzzat

    March 18, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    @RandyG: The Red Cross needs to collectively decide that since a) there’s no scientific basis to assume that if someone spent 3 months in the UK in 1986 that they logically have asymptomatic vCJD and b) there is no documented transmission of vCJD through blood contact, it may be time to lift that particular travel ban.

  65. 65.

    indianbadger

    March 19, 2020 at 10:58 am

    I am scheduled for my regular double-blood donation this evening. I am doing my bit.

     

    Stay safe and WASH YOUR HANDS!!

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