I just watched the first few minutes and he’s rambling like he’s winging this off of some notes rather than reading from a prepared speech. And he seems to say “New York” almost as much as Mike Dense says “President”. Is it all like that?
I cannot believe that this is only the “were-so-fucked” post. Â If there aren’t also a whole bunch of of “we-are-so-fucked” posts, I will be very surprised.
I have have reached my quote of depressing videos for the day, is this a “we are so fucked in WV” post, or we are all collectively fucked in the US post?
@WaterGirl: Well, I’ve already had one drink but I think I could use another before I watch  this. Care for another while I’m up?
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mad citizen
Checking in on BJ, was able to get through 3 minutes of this. You know, documentary filmmaker Errol Morris had a technique he used where he just put the subject on camera and let them talk. Eventually their true nature/story/facts come out. I think we should get rid of all political campaign commercials, replaced by forcing each candidate to sit in front of a camera and talk for an hour straight. Then we could make some informed choices.
May God have mercy on the state of West Virginny. I was going to remark on how I’ve noticed the same Hoosier-Republican-politician-speak I hear from Dense, our Governor, our Senators. But compared to this, well…they seem like very articulate, knowing people.
6.
oatler.
Not New York! With the pimps and the CHUDS!
7.
Jeffro
I punched out around the 2 minute mark…I assume this is what it’s like when a moron tries to explain exponential growth (in coronavirus cases) to other morons?
“See here, we got a tenth of the cases they do, and boom, now they’ve got a lot of cases. Â Which means we’re about to have a lot of cases – still just a tenth that they do, mind you, but a lot for us here in West By God”
It’s almost like we should have gone with the smart lady a few years ago. Â Until I hear that from blessed Jim Justice and every other GOP official, they can all go pound sand and drown in their own fluids.
8.
Rey
The $64.00 question???? Â Your Gov is a moran!
9.
tinare
Wtf?
10.
BGinCHI
His name alone is a tell that we’re in the worst fucking simulation.
11.
Chetan Murthy
John,
[my first take is …. sympathetic. And after that I’ll try to be harsh.]
I get that he’s saying “WASF”. And I get that he’s pretty slow and lugubrious about it. But I’m listening thru the whole thing (as of this writing, 20min). And he’s not doing badly, explaining to his people. [As an effete coastal liberal type] Sure, maybe his citizenry is uneducated and anti-science, but he’s trying, he’s -trying-. He’s being forthright. And for sure, not sugar-coating it at all. That’s all good.
Esp. around 19:30 onward thru 21:00, he make it clear that “damn the economics, if we don’t act now and with urgency, a lotta people are gonna die.”
He’s trying to do the right thing. At least, it seems.
P.S. OK, that was my nicest take. Now the harsh: He -should- be closing businesses and ORDERING work-from-home, ORDERING shelter-in-place. He isn’t, as far as I can see. He’s ASKING citizens to do more, not ORDERING them. In that sense, yeah, he’s not doing his job.
12.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
So basically the the West Virginia governor blamed the whole mess on New York pimps?
In the “silver lining” department, LA rush hour traffic is now so perfectly fine that the highway patrol is putting out PSAs about the dangers of speeding.
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Chetan Murthy
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Well yes, for the first few mins, he keeps mentioning NY like some kind of mantra. It was a little troubling. But he was doing it in order to compare populations and infection rates. And when he finally got going, NY wasn’t mentioned again. He was doing to say (as clearly as he could): “if we don’t act NOW, we’ll be NY in TEN DAYS”.
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Chetan Murthy: on Monday he encouraged all real West (By God!) Virinnins to go eat at Bob Evans
But he loves West Virginia and it’s people, and there is nobody that loves West Virginia more! As an effete coastal liberal, that was painful to listen to. If he was my governor I think I would move.
18.
Doc Sardonic
If there is any doubt as to how severe the situation is let me clarify it for you. Â In Florida, Waffle House is CLOSED. These people donât close for an approaching Cat 5 hurricane but for a few hours and are back at it, but they are closed now.
19.
Martin
Is Mothman not eating the virus fast enough?
20.
Jeffro
@dmsilev: It must be very confusing for L.A. drivers, realizing that their gas pedals are more than just a novelty.
21.
Villago Delenda Est
Donald is going to be pissed. This guy is horning in on his word salad speechifying.
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Chetan Murthy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I believe it. Which is a sign of just how fucked he thinks WV is, without its people doing their utmost. Sadly, he’s not willing to take the necessary step of ordering shelter-in-place.
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dmsilev
@Jeffro: Heh. It is a good sign though; it means that people/businesses really are taking the whole “stay the hell home” thing seriously.
24.
Jinchi
Apparently there’s a pretty good reason West Virginia was (confirmed) Coronavirus-free for so long.
When the phone did ring, it was the hospital saying James’ tests had been lost and he had to get tested again. But they didn’t want him back at the hospital, promising instead to find a location and call her back.
The people trying to keep their numbers down are going to kill us all.
25.
ziggy
@Chetan Murthy: Nope he brings up New York again. Certainly don’t want to be like New York (wink).
26.
Martin
@Chetan Murthy: Well, invoking NYC is about as effective a way to scare the fuck out of West Virginians as is possible. Maybe San Francisco is is worse, but it’s close.
27.
Chetan Murthy
@Martin: And I give him points for that. [I stopped watching when the doctor started speaking.] Whatever it takes to fucking scare your populace.
28.
Jacel
@mad citizen: That was also Jon Stewart’s technique for The Daily Show interviews he did with Republicans. He’d let them talk, ask questions to encourage them to make clearer what they were saying, and let them dig a deep deep hole all by themselves.
29.
Kifaru1
I’m so glad I live in the other Virginia
30.
Nicole
We’re listening right now and my husband says he thinks the Governor is giving out reasonably truthful advice. Â I asked him what the hell he was talking about, and he replied, “I’m from Oklahoma. Â I speak this kind of Idiot.”
@e julius drivingstorm: I’ll take a mojito with muddled strawberries, if you have it. Â Or a margarita with simple syrup and real lime, that’s a possibility, too.
32.
Nicole
(For me, as a native Keystoner, I am right now feeling not-at-all bad about Pennsylvania making “West Virginia” the punchline to 50% of our jokes.)
33.
Starfish
My mood is more Omari Hardy, but you can choose your own politicians.
You know you’re in a bad timeline when WV’s Jim Justice offers considerably more thoughtful and effective leadership than the President* of the United States.
36.
LAO
I didnât watch the video but, honestly, Itâs grim here in NYC. I wouldnât wish it on any state.
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Odie Hugh Manatee
I tried to watch it but it won’t play… probably too far away from Oregon. ;)
In our slice of conservative rural Oregon, it’s fucking nuts. Male Trump supporters are screaming “fake news”, “overhyped” while decrying the panic in the stores, all the while they and their wives are shopping for the apocalypse. When asked about the contradiction they say they have no choice or they won’t be able to get anything at the store when they need it, thus the liberals are forcing them to do it. My wife and daughter are on the front lines in retail here and they are sick of the selfish, rude assholes that they serve. The toilet paper and hand sanitizer is limited and moved to the front of the store where people have to buy it and immediately take it out of the store. Why? Because it will get stolen out of their carts while they are shopping. Yes, conservatives are stealing the contents of the carts of their fellow townsfolk.
Our daughter, after answering a woman questioning why she needs to take her TP and hand cleaner out of the store, has the customer patting her purse and telling her that shes ready for anyone who tries to rip her off (implying she was packing heat). Yes, she is ready to shoot someone for stealing her supplies while in the store. Male customers are wandering the store, dumping their conspiracy theories on the suffering workers. One asshole Trump supporter was outraged that they were out ot TP at 7:30 am and demanded to speak with the manager who decided to give the asshole a free bottle of hand sanitizer to shut him up, rewarding his childish behavior and encouraging him to continue to bitch about shit in the future in the hopes of free shit.
We’re stockpiled here too but it’s called our pantry and we’re stocking it as usual, only replacing what we use. I have N95 and P95 masks on hand but only because I use them while working fiberglass and sanding/painting, not because of the virus (but they will be handy if needed for that purpose). I’m one of the people in the target of this virus (former smoker, 60’s, RA, HBP), so my wife is taking every precaution she can to protect us including washing up before heading home and doing it again once she is home.
Being quite honest, since people are going to die because of Trump and the Republican party, I really hope this shit nails them and their base but good. I hate saying it but the hateful shit I’ve had to see and hear from these selfish assholes has gone on enough.
Seeing the Asian child with his head cut open was it for me… let the Reaper reap those who have sown the hate.
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Chetan Murthy
@Starfish: Brave man. In the South, outside the massive cities, a man who does that sort of thing might end up dead. A brave man.
39.
hells littlest angel
John, I think the governor did your drinking for you.
40.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Jesus Christ. I couldn’t get through 2 minutes of his rambling. I don’t like DeWine very much, but Justice made him look like JFK; DeWine for all his faults is far more competent a public speaker/administrator who knows when to allow his health director to address questions and explain topics he doesn’t have a firm grasp on.
@LAO: I live in NYC too; I’m with you, but right now, the MD now speaking is the only one who is giving any actual specific information of what people should actually DO. Â Twenty-five minutes into the thing. The previous 25 minutes… well…
Well, we accepted an offer on our house. Please cross every bit that can be crossed that the sale closes easily, that we are able to cross the country uneventfully, that we can find somewhere new to live quickly, that I stay employed, that Mr. Suzanne finds a new gig shortly, that we and the world stay healthy.
For FSM’s sake, what a time to be making a cross-country move.
My younger sister who lives in Bismarck ND said their oil drenched governor actually sounded he cared about something besides drilling the Bakken this week.
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karen marie
I watched almost 14 minutes. Did he ever get to the point?
Goddam, thanks for this. It sucks that our Trump supporting assholes in the fine state of Oregon that we share are so assholes. It just shows how selfish and arrogant that these people are as a whole.
This virus is going to humble them in ways that political rhetoric won’t. I hope they learn the lesson. The entitlement of these people is off the charts. Immigrants like myself and others understand sacrifice, these people do not.
@Suzanne: We’ve been thinking about moving late this summer to get someplace smaller and be closer to the granddaughters. I figure that’s going to have to be slipped by a year while the markets stabilize again.
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Nicole
@LAO: I listened to the whole 35 or however many minutes. Â That guy did a very accurate summary in 30 seconds.
Glad you enjoyed; I laughed, too.
58.
Level B
I watched the video up top, thought about Trumpâs wretched performance, and thought back over how previous presidents responded to existential crises in the past. Just picture FDR addressing congress the day after Pearl Harbor saying âIt wasnât my fault, nobody can blame me for thatâ. Â This is unsustainable.
Towanda the Avenger@kendallybrown · 2h Hobby Lobby owner David Green is telling store managers to stay open despite the pandemic because his wife had a vision from god. He also warns they’ll all have to “tighten their belts” soon. His net worth is $6.4 billionâhourly employees don’t get paid sick leave. #COVIDIOT
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dmsilev
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I walked to and from the local farmerâs market, about four miles each way. Not too many people out and about, so easy to keep my distance. Market was busy, but not packed solid; talking with one of the staff, she pointed out that the spacing between people was better than at Vons… Only vendor with a serious line was the egg seller; lot of stores are low on that.
62.
Bill Arnold
Inane but not awful at 2X
63.
glc
@Chetan Murthy: Glad to see your comment. My take is similar, but more sympathetic (that is, with far fewer cavils).
He appears to have now grasped the nature of the problem and is working to bring the population on board. Of course he is looking at New York – and Italy, China, California – and making the fundamental point that what looks like a huge difference in numbers is only a 10 day lag. Understanding that is one of the keys to having people take it seriously.
It would have been nice if he had reached the same conclusions, and given the same speech, a few days ago. But he doesn’t stand out in that respect. The key failure is at the federal level, and goes back months.
Of course they’re fucked, but that was abundantly true yesterday; now at least they may start to deal with it.
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dmsilev
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: This is the guy whose museum paid $$$ for a bunch of Dead Sea Scroll forgeries. His telephone line to God might be a bit staticy is what Iâm saying.
65.
LAO
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I really hate these motherfuckers. Always willing to risk others, while protecting themselves.
I think Abbott sincerely wants to do whatâs best for Texans, but heâs either too dumb to figure out what that is or too much a captive of conservative Republican ideology to actually do it.
If he ever gets past those two things, he still has to deal with the ignorance and stupidity of a strong preponderance of us.
Yes, in Texas at a store that a family of four were shopping at. The 19 year old that attacked them intended to kill them. I clicked on a Twitter link that had the picture in the comments.
It was a gut punch for anyone with a shred empathy. Here’s a link.
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Suzanne
@Michael Cain: I am so freaked out. But Iâm already working for the new company. One of the principals, when we were talking about COVID stuff, said that they were very excited for me to move there. And another colleague resigned last week. So I canât back out, and I am hoping so very much that everything works out. If thereâs anything the world needs, itâs hospitals, right?
I donât even know if there will be gasoline or hotels, at the rate this is going.
Still remember a place in OH where there were 2 Waffle Houses, literally right across the street from each other. It was a divided road with no cut out to make a turn, so to get customers coming or going, had to be 2.
That’s the same David Green who just last week learned that the “Dead Sea Scroll Fragments” that he bought for his fucking “Museum Of The Bible” are recent fakes, probably made from shoe leather.  He spent, IIRC, $6 million for them.
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SiubhanDuinne
@Suzanne: Oh, Iâm glad. Congratulations on the house sale, and best wishes on the looming cross-country move. Whatâs your timeline like?
Well, they say that a fool and his money are soon parted…
But yeah, $6 million smackers for fakes. It’s almost enough to make one believe in a god. Do you know how recent they were made?
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dmsilev
@?BillinGlendaleCA: California farmers grow a lot of things, but thatâs not one of them.
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chris
I saw this earlier and hoped that it was another ray of sunshine. Followup in the next comment.
THREAD: I mostly talk about movies on here, but here goes. We are currently pivoting our factory to solely make surgical masks and other medical garments in short supply. We can make 2 million masks a day, and are looking to help in any way possible during this time. #COVID19pic.twitter.com/dOX7N3e1GJ— Jeffrey Zhang (@strangeharbors) 20 March 2020
My advice, which is worth exactly as much as you pay for it or a little less, is to prepare to rent for a year.  I have a feeling that housing prices will be … somewhat lower … in six months, and that will persist for a while.
And in transition, I’d choose a motel with units that open directly to the out-of-doors over a hotel with shared corridors. Best if there’s an in-unit tiny kitchen.  Decline the housekeeping and tip the fuck out of the chambermaid anyway.
Brief update: Up since 5AM coordinating, and made great progress working with @NYGovCuomoâs office thanks to everyoneâs help. But NY is not our only priority. Also received responses from AZ, TX, CA, and IL government. Logistics and customs is next hurdle. This is only the start.— Jeffrey Zhang (@strangeharbors) 22 March 2020
Mrs. Revolta and I have been planning to sell and move somewhere warm this year. Been thinking about S Carolina and I’ve been looking forward to voting Lindsey fucking Graham out. Well, I haven’t said anything yet but I’m thinking it less likely every day. We shall see.
@Odie Hugh Manatee: Ugh. This is awful. That poor child. But still, thank you for this. I have an Asian friend who is in denial. I sent it to him. Yeah, none of us is safe unless all of us are safe. This is something many people don’t understand.
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Villago Delenda Est
@burnspbesq: It’s the latter. Their fucked up ideology is more important than life itself. They’re like the ammosexuals that way.
@Suzanne: I’ve crossed all fingers and toes and though normally not a praying person, I lift you and your family up and pray for safe journey.
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Suzanne
@SiubhanDuinne: We were originally planning to move during the first week of June, because Mr. Suzanne (school-based bilingual SLP) wanted to finish out his contract and we wanted the kiddos to finish the school year. But it’s now looking like the kids wonât be going back this year at all, at least not physically. He got a district-wide email telling the teachers to clear out their classrooms by 5pm yesterday.
I am so worried. Are my kids going to be going back to school in the fall? This isnât sustainable.
90.
Suzanne
@dww44: Thank you. Iâm not a big prayer person, either, but the current situation has been getting me there, too.
91.
RobNYNY
My test is “Who is on the next bar stool?” He fails that test.
Thanks. You’d think Green would’ve done his due diligence and actually verified if these were real, but no. Almost like he’s a gullible moron who took it on faith that these were real fragments of the Dead Sea Scrolls
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Mike in NC
That shithead’s desk is as bare as Fat Bastard’s. Do any of these douchebags do any actual work?
“It’s a miracle. God transmuted them to ensure they will last another 2000 years.”
//
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Suzanne
@joel hanes: We are planning to rent for at least 6 months. I agree with your assessment of the future. That makes me feel terrible, to think of capitalizing on others’ misfortune.
Thats a good thought about hotels. Usually I wonât do the kind with the door that opens directly to the exterior, because of safety. But…. thatâs a consideration.
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Suzanne
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I got a couple of questions. I wrote a post and sent it to WaterGirl… Iâd love to have it post tomorrow, because Iâm available to answer questions during the day.
Are my kids going to be going back to school in the fall?
I donât think anyone knows. Iâve seen estimates ranging from three months to a year before this is all over. My employer is doing planning in three month chunks. We know what weâre doing for the spring, but the situation is too uncertain to decide on the summer. Itâll take a few weeks, maybe a month, to know whether the social distancing is making a real difference, and at that point we should be a lot more confident in the predictions.
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Ella in New Mexico
Oh Honey, just get the fuck out of West Virginia as fast as you can.
Consider New Mexico. After a 2 week quarantine, we treat your kind right. ;-)
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CaseyL
@Suzanne: Congrats! Hope the closing goes smoothly, and then The Move.
Going cross country – you’re driving, right? – might actually be pleasant, in that there won’t be much traffic. (Actually, I’m assuming that you’re driving. Getting on a plane right now just seems like a really bad idea.)
Are you staying at motels en route, or planning to go the distance in one straight shot?
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I would think if they were real, Green couldn’t have purchased them for any amount of money. Wouldn’t they be Jewish artifacts?
@CaseyL: Originally, I was planning to fly SuzMom and the Spawns, and Mr. Suzanne and I would drive with the pets. But now it looks like we’re all piling in the car. God help me.
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Jeffro
@Suzanne: genuinely not sure, given the incompetence of the current maladministration, but my best guess (was in K-12, now in higher ed) is that schools will re-open in the fall with local/regional closures as needed (ie, when the virus flares back up again).
106.
BroD
One is only required to listen to one’s own governor–right? I chose option not on this one.
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Well, when you think of some of the other shit these people take on faith, this is nothing really.
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Suzanne
@dmsilev: Krugman tweeted something today about how he doesnât think that Americans will be able to keep up social distancing for more than a few weeks, with all the devastation that it is causing. I tend to agree with that.
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RobNYNY
He has done nothing to improve my option of cracker accents.
Congressâs top leaders, the so-called âfour corners,â will meet at 11 a.m. Sunday to negotiate the legislation. It will be the first time Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) will sit down with McConnell to discuss the $1 trillion-plus package.
Moscow Mitch finally realized that nothing is going to happen unless Nancy SMASH is on board.
He frittered away a week. Grrr….
Cheers,
Scott.
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Chetan Murthy
@Eunicecycle: That didn’t stop him smuggling artifacts out of Iraq (IIRC). He’s just not up for … y’know …. respecting other people’s religions, sovereignty, whatever.
I would think if they were real, Green couldnât have purchased them for any amount of money. Wouldnât they be Jewish artifacts?
Wrong person to ask. I know a lot of artifacts are in museum collections all around the world not in the country of origin. The British Museum is notorious for this
117.
mrmoshpotato
@Another Scott: Can we take all of the profits from the Russthuglican insider trading?
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
@mrmoshpotato: which petition? Â is that what the “Our President Bernie” on twitter was?
119.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@rikyrah: I saw a tweet that Michelle Obama was at a famous person’s party and I thought, “Mrs O! set the example!” then I realized what was going on
120.
emrys
@Suzanne: if you have two people who can drive, look into a one way rental as a second vehicle.
121.
Suzanne
@Jeffro: How will we know if itâs spreading, since we gave up on testing? Never mind. Thatâs a rhetorical question.
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Another Scott
@mrmoshpotato: Hey, they stole that money fair and square!! What are you, some kind of Communist or something??!!1ONE
I hope Nancy brings the hammer down on all of them, but if it takes a few more bills to do so, I’m Ok with that. They need to get the money out to people NOW.
Cheers,
Scott.
123.
mrmoshpotato
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: There’s an occasional ad at top to sign a petition to make Wilmer the nominee. LOL Democracy-hating cosplay commies
124.
mrmoshpotato
@Another Scott: Haha – guess I’m bank-robbing on Monday!
Many of those artefacts weren’t purchased by Britain; they were simply taken as an exercise of its colonial power.
126.
Poe Larity
Not a bad speech, if youâre the Grim Reaper.
127.
TriassicSands
Sign up now! Jim Justice will be offering an online public speaking course for all West Virginians. If you aren’t inarticulate today, by the time you finish Justice’s class he guarantees that you won’t be able to string three consecutive coherent words together even if you have five other West Virginians helping you. Even your dog will no longer be able to understand your simple commands. Sign up now!
I had never seen and heard Justice before. To think this guy is a billionaire — the richest person in the state. The mind reels!
His is a very different kind of inarticulateness from Trump’s. Trump sickens and disgusts me. I almost felt sorry for Justice. Almost. In the end, however, I can’t feel sorry for Republicans anymore — ever.
Accepting the fact that Trump is in a class all his own, Justice is still one of the most inarticulate speakers I’ve ever heard.
Yeah, I should’ve mentioned that. The British stole from all over the place. Still, aren’t both examples of cultural approbation?
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Calouste
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Compare that to the godless liberals at Microsoft and Apple etc, who keep paying their hourly employees while theyâre sitting at home, and a lot of them donât even work directly for the company.
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Gvg
@Suzanne: My family and I moved from Oklahoma back to Florida when I was eight, driving with my 2 pet cats. My father built a travel enclosure cage for them in the back seat next to me. There was room for them on the seat with a shelf to look out and the litter box on the floor. We took them into the hotel each night. I think their was a door inside the car to transfer them to carriers. It worked well, used the space efficiently by fitting the car and not just being a rectangle. They slept as I recall.
we had some adventures finding a new house as we arrived in Orlando just after Disney opened and houses were in shortage. The problems we had were caused by the seller getting greedy after the contract was signed and trying to stall so my parents would walk away from their deposit. He decided he could have gotten more. Well he had to stick to the contract but it took extra weeks. If someone seems hinky, donât sign a contract with them, itâs too frustrating.
I think emrys’ idea of renting a second car is a really good idea. Five (?) humans and X number of pets in one car? For a multi-day drive? Yoiks.
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KsSteve
I’m confused. Considering this was WV, I watched this thinking he was going to blow smoke up my ass about how we’re all going to be OK. Then he gave a presentation that I totally agreed with and I assumed he had locked down WV. Has this happened or is he preparing the masses for it?
That is the problem with this speech or whatever one wants to call it. What did he say exactly? What are they doing exactly?
I got the feeling that he rambled and was so unclear because he felt (knew?) he was talking to an audience that didn’t want to hear the bad news. So, he couldn’t simply state the “X” number of steps he and they are taking.
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My Side of Town
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Well hey. MAGA, we are now number three in total orange virus cases behind Italy and China !!!!! Way to go trumpie. You sure do bigly shit.
Big Jim Justice owns a famous resort called The Greenbrier, and coaches a girls high school basketball team near there. His many coal-related businesses are famous for not paying taxes and bills for materials and equipment — sound familiar?
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Suzanne
@CaseyL: We have a second carâSuzMom’s. (We’re not bringing Mr. Suzanne’s.) But she doesnât feel up to driving it that far.
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Suzanne
@Gvg: We want to rent for a few months in order to really nail down where we want to live.
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The Pale Scot
This must be an out take from the Life of Brian, The Boring Prefect, which was revised and added as the Boring Prophet
There shall, in that time, be rumours of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi– with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer…..the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o’clock.
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jonas
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:Â Well, he’s probably in a pissy mood too because it’s becoming clearer and clearer that the tens (maybe hundreds?) of millions he’s pumped into buying Bible artifacts for his vanity Jesus museum in DC over the past decade are, well, a bunch of fakes…
141.
Fair Economist
I am delighted by the fact that his money is in coal and resorts (the Greenbriar). He faces a well-deserved ruination.
And lo, there came unto them Phillip, called Punter;
And he was Lillian Roth in his extremity.
“Merrily, merrily”, he says unto them, saying, “Merrily, Merrily, for I am come.”
And he came.
And he came unto the house of his mother’s brother’s servant, saying, “Where am I?”
And there was none there to answer him, not even no one, saying, “Nowhere, yea,
But in the land of reversible cups, and sanitary pedestals;
And he lay in that land a long time, like worms out of a hot cheese log.
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Fair Economist
@Chetan Murthy: What good is the fact that he kind of gets to the point that action has to be taken? Who is still watching after 10 minutes, besides the occasional masochistic BJer?
Greenbrier was, IIRC, where the underground complex to house the U.S. government in the event of nuclear war was located.
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ballerat
@Another Scott: It will be the first time Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) will sit down with McConnell
Of course they made it sound like Nancy was the one who was being obstinate and unreasonable.
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m.glafmer
fwiw, I’m drinking a wine called Walking Dead Blood Red Blend. 5 bucks a bottle. There’s not enough of this.
John, respect you for your decision. You are certainly the better person. But since I ain’t that strong, this is what I got. And I got a case.
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Ksmiami
@Another Scott: May she hand him his sagging old demented evil ass and force him to choke on actually doing the right thing
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The Lodger
@emrys: Suzanne, if you’re getting a one-way rental, take a real good look at the vehicle before you drive it off the lot. Many rental companies view one-ways as a way to send lemons to another state.
The Greenbrier was insdeed site of the Congressional cold war bunker, a professionally designed and built shelter for those fleeing Washington DC. I-64 runs right by rhe bunker. Now it’s a great tourist attraction, with a casino.
But back during WW II it was both a rural prison for captured German military officers and Diplomats– and then a hospital!
Perhaps Big Jim could donate the huge facility for care and rehabilitation of sufferers of the trump plague?
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m.glafmer
@The Lodger: Been there, done that. Drove a one way rental from Atlanta to North Carolina that had GPS (back in 2003) but I needed to hold the steering wheel 45° off center to go straight. Not a fun drive.
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Ryan
You know, in New York, they’re so fancy they have what they call a $64,000 question. We don’t have those kind of numbers, like they have in New York.
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Uncle Cosmo
@Jeffro: It must be very confusing for L.A. drivers, realizing that their gas pedals are more than just a novelty.
You bring to mind Dr. Lee, my Intro Physics lecturer at JHU in the late 60s, explaining acceleration meant changes in direction as well as speed:
So if you drive car, you have two ways to accelerate: Gas pedal and steering wheel… But if you drive ’58 Chevy, you have one way to accelerate: Steering wheel!
I get the feeling the good Dr (RIP by now, no doubt) spoke from less-than-impressed experience with a Biscayne, Bel Air or Impala of that provenance…
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Uncle Cosmo
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I know a lot of artifacts are in museum collections all around the world not in the country of origin. The British Museum is notorious for this.
When I went to Greece in 1997 & heard complaints about the Brits making off with their priceless legacy, I would reply,
Be glad the Germans didn’t get there first – the Acropolis would be a flat featureless hill & all the buildings would be sitting in Berlin.
I knew whereof I spoke – having toured Turkey the year before & visited the site of the acropolis at Bergama (ancient Pergamon) from whence the Altar of Zeus had been untimely ripped & carted off by German archaeologists, leaving only a few foundation stones behind.
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evodevo
@Eunicecycle: The first Dead Sea scrolls were sold on the antiquities market by a local Arab who found the cave they were in 60 years ago…before the Israelis began really cracking down on that sort of looting. If these particular ones had been sold out of country back then, and then changed hands in Europe after that..there wouldn’t be anything inherently illegal. There has been a huge debate in the archaeological community over the last 40 years about publishing looted antiquities, but that wouldn’t stop a committed fundie. Their morality is exceedingly flexible about such matters. That;s what makes it so delicious that they spent $6 mil on fake ones…
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evodevo
@Chetan Murthy:Â AND you can bet the placards on those artifacts will contain a plethora of lying and mythology concerning their origin and archaeological significance lol
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Zinsky
I like how this knuckle-dragger says, “This is the $64 question (it’s actually supposed to be the “$64,000 question” – an allusion to the old TV show)” and then doesn’t pose a question at all… So, he bungles the name of program as well as committing a moronic malapropism. There are other similarly stupid comments, but it pains me to even type them.
What a moron! I’ll bet he and Trump are good buddies. Both dumber than a sack of shit.
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sdhays
I just watched the first few minutes and he’s rambling like he’s winging this off of some notes rather than reading from a prepared speech. And he seems to say “New York” almost as much as Mike Dense says “President”. Is it all like that?
WaterGirl
I cannot believe that this is only the “were-so-fucked” post. Â If there aren’t also a whole bunch of of “we-are-so-fucked” posts, I will be very surprised.
I have have reached my quote of depressing videos for the day, is this a “we are so fucked in WV” post, or we are all collectively fucked in the US post?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
watch this video instead
e julius drivingstorm
@WaterGirl: Well, I’ve already had one drink but I think I could use another before I watch  this. Care for another while I’m up?
mad citizen
Checking in on BJ, was able to get through 3 minutes of this. You know, documentary filmmaker Errol Morris had a technique he used where he just put the subject on camera and let them talk. Eventually their true nature/story/facts come out. I think we should get rid of all political campaign commercials, replaced by forcing each candidate to sit in front of a camera and talk for an hour straight. Then we could make some informed choices.
May God have mercy on the state of West Virginny. I was going to remark on how I’ve noticed the same Hoosier-Republican-politician-speak I hear from Dense, our Governor, our Senators. But compared to this, well…they seem like very articulate, knowing people.
oatler.
Not New York! With the pimps and the CHUDS!
Jeffro
I punched out around the 2 minute mark…I assume this is what it’s like when a moron tries to explain exponential growth (in coronavirus cases) to other morons?
“See here, we got a tenth of the cases they do, and boom, now they’ve got a lot of cases. Â Which means we’re about to have a lot of cases – still just a tenth that they do, mind you, but a lot for us here in West By God”
It’s almost like we should have gone with the smart lady a few years ago. Â Until I hear that from blessed Jim Justice and every other GOP official, they can all go pound sand and drown in their own fluids.
Rey
The $64.00 question???? Â Your Gov is a moran!
tinare
Wtf?
BGinCHI
His name alone is a tell that we’re in the worst fucking simulation.
Chetan Murthy
John,
[my first take is …. sympathetic. And after that I’ll try to be harsh.]
I get that he’s saying “WASF”. And I get that he’s pretty slow and lugubrious about it. But I’m listening thru the whole thing (as of this writing, 20min). And he’s not doing badly, explaining to his people. [As an effete coastal liberal type] Sure, maybe his citizenry is uneducated and anti-science, but he’s trying, he’s -trying-. He’s being forthright. And for sure, not sugar-coating it at all. That’s all good.
Esp. around 19:30 onward thru 21:00, he make it clear that “damn the economics, if we don’t act now and with urgency, a lotta people are gonna die.”
He’s trying to do the right thing. At least, it seems.
P.S. OK, that was my nicest take. Now the harsh: He -should- be closing businesses and ORDERING work-from-home, ORDERING shelter-in-place. He isn’t, as far as I can see. He’s ASKING citizens to do more, not ORDERING them. In that sense, yeah, he’s not doing his job.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
So basically the the West Virginia governor blamed the whole mess on New York pimps?
dmsilev
Here’s Gavin Newsome
In the “silver lining” department, LA rush hour traffic is now so perfectly fine that the highway patrol is putting out PSAs about the dangers of speeding.
Chetan Murthy
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Well yes, for the first few mins, he keeps mentioning NY like some kind of mantra. It was a little troubling. But he was doing it in order to compare populations and infection rates. And when he finally got going, NY wasn’t mentioned again. He was doing to say (as clearly as he could): “if we don’t act NOW, we’ll be NY in TEN DAYS”.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Chetan Murthy: on Monday he encouraged all real West (By God!) Virinnins to go eat at Bob Evans
raven
@dmsilev: Like the 84 Olympics!
ziggy
But he loves West Virginia and it’s people, and there is nobody that loves West Virginia more! As an effete coastal liberal, that was painful to listen to. If he was my governor I think I would move.
Doc Sardonic
If there is any doubt as to how severe the situation is let me clarify it for you. Â In Florida, Waffle House is CLOSED. These people donât close for an approaching Cat 5 hurricane but for a few hours and are back at it, but they are closed now.
Martin
Is Mothman not eating the virus fast enough?
Jeffro
@dmsilev: It must be very confusing for L.A. drivers, realizing that their gas pedals are more than just a novelty.
Villago Delenda Est
Donald is going to be pissed. This guy is horning in on his word salad speechifying.
Chetan Murthy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I believe it. Which is a sign of just how fucked he thinks WV is, without its people doing their utmost. Sadly, he’s not willing to take the necessary step of ordering shelter-in-place.
dmsilev
@Jeffro: Heh. It is a good sign though; it means that people/businesses really are taking the whole “stay the hell home” thing seriously.
Jinchi
Apparently there’s a pretty good reason West Virginia was (confirmed) Coronavirus-free for so long.
The people trying to keep their numbers down are going to kill us all.
ziggy
@Chetan Murthy: Nope he brings up New York again. Certainly don’t want to be like New York (wink).
Martin
@Chetan Murthy: Well, invoking NYC is about as effective a way to scare the fuck out of West Virginians as is possible. Maybe San Francisco is is worse, but it’s close.
Chetan Murthy
@Martin: And I give him points for that. [I stopped watching when the doctor started speaking.] Whatever it takes to fucking scare your populace.
Jacel
@mad citizen: That was also Jon Stewart’s technique for The Daily Show interviews he did with Republicans. He’d let them talk, ask questions to encourage them to make clearer what they were saying, and let them dig a deep deep hole all by themselves.
Kifaru1
I’m so glad I live in the other Virginia
Nicole
We’re listening right now and my husband says he thinks the Governor is giving out reasonably truthful advice. Â I asked him what the hell he was talking about, and he replied, “I’m from Oklahoma. Â I speak this kind of Idiot.”
WaterGirl
@e julius drivingstorm: I’ll take a mojito with muddled strawberries, if you have it. Â Or a margarita with simple syrup and real lime, that’s a possibility, too.
Nicole
(For me, as a native Keystoner, I am right now feeling not-at-all bad about Pennsylvania making “West Virginia” the punchline to 50% of our jokes.)
Starfish
My mood is more Omari Hardy, but you can choose your own politicians.
Omnes Omnibus
@Jacel: Borat as well.
joel hanes
You know you’re in a bad timeline when WV’s Jim Justice offers considerably more thoughtful and effective leadership than the President* of the United States.
LAO
I didnât watch the video but, honestly, Itâs grim here in NYC. I wouldnât wish it on any state.
Odie Hugh Manatee
I tried to watch it but it won’t play… probably too far away from Oregon. ;)
In our slice of conservative rural Oregon, it’s fucking nuts. Male Trump supporters are screaming “fake news”, “overhyped” while decrying the panic in the stores, all the while they and their wives are shopping for the apocalypse. When asked about the contradiction they say they have no choice or they won’t be able to get anything at the store when they need it, thus the liberals are forcing them to do it. My wife and daughter are on the front lines in retail here and they are sick of the selfish, rude assholes that they serve. The toilet paper and hand sanitizer is limited and moved to the front of the store where people have to buy it and immediately take it out of the store. Why? Because it will get stolen out of their carts while they are shopping. Yes, conservatives are stealing the contents of the carts of their fellow townsfolk.
Our daughter, after answering a woman questioning why she needs to take her TP and hand cleaner out of the store, has the customer patting her purse and telling her that shes ready for anyone who tries to rip her off (implying she was packing heat). Yes, she is ready to shoot someone for stealing her supplies while in the store. Male customers are wandering the store, dumping their conspiracy theories on the suffering workers. One asshole Trump supporter was outraged that they were out ot TP at 7:30 am and demanded to speak with the manager who decided to give the asshole a free bottle of hand sanitizer to shut him up, rewarding his childish behavior and encouraging him to continue to bitch about shit in the future in the hopes of free shit.
We’re stockpiled here too but it’s called our pantry and we’re stocking it as usual, only replacing what we use. I have N95 and P95 masks on hand but only because I use them while working fiberglass and sanding/painting, not because of the virus (but they will be handy if needed for that purpose). I’m one of the people in the target of this virus (former smoker, 60’s, RA, HBP), so my wife is taking every precaution she can to protect us including washing up before heading home and doing it again once she is home.
Being quite honest, since people are going to die because of Trump and the Republican party, I really hope this shit nails them and their base but good. I hate saying it but the hateful shit I’ve had to see and hear from these selfish assholes has gone on enough.
Seeing the Asian child with his head cut open was it for me… let the Reaper reap those who have sown the hate.
Chetan Murthy
@Starfish: Brave man. In the South, outside the massive cities, a man who does that sort of thing might end up dead. A brave man.
hells littlest angel
John, I think the governor did your drinking for you.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Jesus Christ. I couldn’t get through 2 minutes of his rambling. I don’t like DeWine very much, but Justice made him look like JFK; DeWine for all his faults is far more competent a public speaker/administrator who knows when to allow his health director to address questions and explain topics he doesn’t have a firm grasp on.
“My god” is right. Stay safe John
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: What a fun time. (sigh)
Nicole
@LAO: I live in NYC too; I’m with you, but right now, the MD now speaking is the only one who is giving any actual specific information of what people should actually DO. Â Twenty-five minutes into the thing. The previous 25 minutes… well…
This guy did an excellent 30 second summary of the speech:
https://twitter.com/calebgwebb/status/1241509920723402752
mrmoshpotato
@oatler.: C. H. U. D.! Woot!
Chetan Murthy
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
Wait, wut? Was this an attack against an Asian child on our soil? Is this recent?
LAO
@Nicole: I seriously hate myself for laughing. Thanks for sharing.
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: Fan-cy!
Suzanne
Well, we accepted an offer on our house. Please cross every bit that can be crossed that the sale closes easily, that we are able to cross the country uneventfully, that we can find somewhere new to live quickly, that I stay employed, that Mr. Suzanne finds a new gig shortly, that we and the world stay healthy.
For FSM’s sake, what a time to be making a cross-country move.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@WaterGirl:
We’re definitely going to see a whole bunch more “we are so fucked” posts going forward sadly : (
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Suzanne:
Good luck!
chris
@Suzanne: Yay for a little ray of sunshine!
Jager
My younger sister who lives in Bismarck ND said their oil drenched governor actually sounded he cared about something besides drilling the Bakken this week.
karen marie
I watched almost 14 minutes. Did he ever get to the point?
cain
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
Goddam, thanks for this. It sucks that our Trump supporting assholes in the fine state of Oregon that we share are so assholes. It just shows how selfish and arrogant that these people are as a whole.
This virus is going to humble them in ways that political rhetoric won’t. I hope they learn the lesson. The entitlement of these people is off the charts. Immigrants like myself and others understand sacrifice, these people do not.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@dmsilev: OTOH, I went to go for a hike up to Beacon HIll in Griffith Park and couldn’t find a parking space.
frosty
@Suzanne: I crossed my toes for you.
Michael Cain
@Suzanne: We’ve been thinking about moving late this summer to get someplace smaller and be closer to the granddaughters. I figure that’s going to have to be slipped by a year while the markets stabilize again.
Nicole
@LAO: I listened to the whole 35 or however many minutes. Â That guy did a very accurate summary in 30 seconds.
Glad you enjoyed; I laughed, too.
Level B
I watched the video up top, thought about Trumpâs wretched performance, and thought back over how previous presidents responded to existential crises in the past. Just picture FDR addressing congress the day after Pearl Harbor saying âIt wasnât my fault, nobody can blame me for thatâ. Â This is unsustainable.
B.
Villago Delenda Est
@cain: Bad news. These dipshits learn nothing.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
speaking of goobers….
dmsilev
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I walked to and from the local farmerâs market, about four miles each way. Not too many people out and about, so easy to keep my distance. Market was busy, but not packed solid; talking with one of the staff, she pointed out that the spacing between people was better than at Vons… Only vendor with a serious line was the egg seller; lot of stores are low on that.
Bill Arnold
Inane but not awful at 2X
glc
@Chetan Murthy: Glad to see your comment. My take is similar, but more sympathetic (that is, with far fewer cavils).
He appears to have now grasped the nature of the problem and is working to bring the population on board. Of course he is looking at New York – and Italy, China, California – and making the fundamental point that what looks like a huge difference in numbers is only a 10 day lag. Understanding that is one of the keys to having people take it seriously.
It would have been nice if he had reached the same conclusions, and given the same speech, a few days ago. But he doesn’t stand out in that respect. The key failure is at the federal level, and goes back months.
Of course they’re fucked, but that was abundantly true yesterday; now at least they may start to deal with it.
dmsilev
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: This is the guy whose museum paid $$$ for a bunch of Dead Sea Scroll forgeries. His telephone line to God might be a bit staticy is what Iâm saying.
LAO
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I really hate these motherfuckers. Always willing to risk others, while protecting themselves.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Man, fuck that douchebag
burnspbesq
I think Abbott sincerely wants to do whatâs best for Texans, but heâs either too dumb to figure out what that is or too much a captive of conservative Republican ideology to actually do it.
If he ever gets past those two things, he still has to deal with the ignorance and stupidity of a strong preponderance of us.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@dmsilev:
THEY WERE ALL IN GRIFFITH PARK!
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Chetan Murthy:
Yes, in Texas at a store that a family of four were shopping at. The 19 year old that attacked them intended to kill them. I clicked on a Twitter link that had the picture in the comments.
It was a gut punch for anyone with a shred empathy. Here’s a link.
Suzanne
@Michael Cain: I am so freaked out. But Iâm already working for the new company. One of the principals, when we were talking about COVID stuff, said that they were very excited for me to move there. And another colleague resigned last week. So I canât back out, and I am hoping so very much that everything works out. If thereâs anything the world needs, itâs hospitals, right?
I donât even know if there will be gasoline or hotels, at the rate this is going.
dmsilev
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Too bad for them. I got fresh strawberries.
Ruckus
@Doc Sardonic:
Awful House is closed?
What sort of hell is this?
Still remember a place in OH where there were 2 Waffle Houses, literally right across the street from each other. It was a divided road with no cut out to make a turn, so to get customers coming or going, had to be 2.
joel hanes
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
That’s the same David Green who just last week learned that the “Dead Sea Scroll Fragments” that he bought for his fucking “Museum Of The Bible” are recent fakes, probably made from shoe leather.  He spent, IIRC, $6 million for them.
SiubhanDuinne
@Suzanne: Oh, Iâm glad. Congratulations on the house sale, and best wishes on the looming cross-country move. Whatâs your timeline like?
cain
@Suzanne:
FSM, that’s a lot of stuff to cross our fingers for. But I hope for a good end for all of you.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@dmsilev: Meh, now if you got TP…that’d be something to brag about.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@joel hanes:
Well, they say that a fool and his money are soon parted…
But yeah, $6 million smackers for fakes. It’s almost enough to make one believe in a god. Do you know how recent they were made?
dmsilev
@?BillinGlendaleCA: California farmers grow a lot of things, but thatâs not one of them.
chris
I saw this earlier and hoped that it was another ray of sunshine. Followup in the next comment.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Suzanne:
Glad you’re working at the new job already
Always. I suspect when we’re on the other side of this existing hospitals are going to expand bed capacity and facilities
joel hanes
@Suzanne:
There will be gasoline.
My advice, which is worth exactly as much as you pay for it or a little less, is to prepare to rent for a year.  I have a feeling that housing prices will be … somewhat lower … in six months, and that will persist for a while.
And in transition, I’d choose a motel with units that open directly to the out-of-doors over a hotel with shared corridors. Best if there’s an in-unit tiny kitchen.  Decline the housekeeping and tip the fuck out of the chambermaid anyway.
chris
@chris:Follwup on the masks.
John Revolta
@Suzanne: Good news! Congrats and Godspeed.
Mrs. Revolta and I have been planning to sell and move somewhere warm this year. Been thinking about S Carolina and I’ve been looking forward to voting Lindsey fucking Graham out. Well, I haven’t said anything yet but I’m thinking it less likely every day. We shall see.
NotMax
@e julius drivingstorm
Pousse café. Supersize it.
:)
Chetan Murthy
@Odie Hugh Manatee: Ugh. This is awful. That poor child. But still, thank you for this. I have an Asian friend who is in denial. I sent it to him. Yeah, none of us is safe unless all of us are safe. This is something many people don’t understand.
Villago Delenda Est
@burnspbesq: It’s the latter. Their fucked up ideology is more important than life itself. They’re like the ammosexuals that way.
joel hanes
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
when they were made
Expert says they were probably made in the 20th century.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/mar/16/dead-sea-scrolls-fragments-at-museum-of-the-bible-are-all-fakes-study-says
dww44
@Suzanne: I’ve crossed all fingers and toes and though normally not a praying person, I lift you and your family up and pray for safe journey.
Suzanne
@SiubhanDuinne: We were originally planning to move during the first week of June, because Mr. Suzanne (school-based bilingual SLP) wanted to finish out his contract and we wanted the kiddos to finish the school year. But it’s now looking like the kids wonât be going back this year at all, at least not physically. He got a district-wide email telling the teachers to clear out their classrooms by 5pm yesterday.
I am so worried. Are my kids going to be going back to school in the fall? This isnât sustainable.
Suzanne
@dww44: Thank you. Iâm not a big prayer person, either, but the current situation has been getting me there, too.
RobNYNY
My test is “Who is on the next bar stool?” He fails that test.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@joel hanes:
Thanks. You’d think Green would’ve done his due diligence and actually verified if these were real, but no. Almost like he’s a gullible moron who took it on faith that these were real fragments of the Dead Sea Scrolls
Mike in NC
That shithead’s desk is as bare as Fat Bastard’s. Do any of these douchebags do any actual work?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Suzanne:
BTW, did anything happen with folks asking you questions about your architectural work designing hospitals?
NotMax
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
“It’s a miracle. God transmuted them to ensure they will last another 2000 years.”
//
Suzanne
@joel hanes: We are planning to rent for at least 6 months. I agree with your assessment of the future. That makes me feel terrible, to think of capitalizing on others’ misfortune.
Thats a good thought about hotels. Usually I wonât do the kind with the door that opens directly to the exterior, because of safety. But…. thatâs a consideration.
Suzanne
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I got a couple of questions. I wrote a post and sent it to WaterGirl… Iâd love to have it post tomorrow, because Iâm available to answer questions during the day.
dmsilev
@Suzanne:
I donât think anyone knows. Iâve seen estimates ranging from three months to a year before this is all over. My employer is doing planning in three month chunks. We know what weâre doing for the spring, but the situation is too uncertain to decide on the summer. Itâll take a few weeks, maybe a month, to know whether the social distancing is making a real difference, and at that point we should be a lot more confident in the predictions.
Ella in New Mexico
Oh Honey, just get the fuck out of West Virginia as fast as you can.
Consider New Mexico. After a 2 week quarantine, we treat your kind right. ;-)
CaseyL
@Suzanne: Congrats! Hope the closing goes smoothly, and then The Move.
Going cross country – you’re driving, right? – might actually be pleasant, in that there won’t be much traffic. (Actually, I’m assuming that you’re driving. Getting on a plane right now just seems like a really bad idea.)
Are you staying at motels en route, or planning to go the distance in one straight shot?
Steeplejack (phone)
Somehow appropriate here:
Eunicecycle
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I would think if they were real, Green couldn’t have purchased them for any amount of money. Wouldn’t they be Jewish artifacts?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Trump and Putin as Mini Me and Dr. Evil – Hard Knock Life
Suzanne
@CaseyL: Originally, I was planning to fly SuzMom and the Spawns, and Mr. Suzanne and I would drive with the pets. But now it looks like we’re all piling in the car. God help me.
Jeffro
@Suzanne: genuinely not sure, given the incompetence of the current maladministration, but my best guess (was in K-12, now in higher ed) is that schools will re-open in the fall with local/regional closures as needed (ie, when the virus flares back up again).
BroD
One is only required to listen to one’s own governor–right? I chose option not on this one.
John Revolta
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Well, when you think of some of the other shit these people take on faith, this is nothing really.
Suzanne
@dmsilev: Krugman tweeted something today about how he doesnât think that Americans will be able to keep up social distancing for more than a few weeks, with all the devastation that it is causing. I tend to agree with that.
RobNYNY
He has done nothing to improve my option of cracker accents.
Another Scott
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/488844-sticking-points-force-stimulus-package-talks-to-spill-into-sunday
Moscow Mitch finally realized that nothing is going to happen unless Nancy SMASH is on board.
He frittered away a week. Grrr….
Cheers,
Scott.
Chetan Murthy
@Eunicecycle: That didn’t stop him smuggling artifacts out of Iraq (IIRC). He’s just not up for … y’know …. respecting other people’s religions, sovereignty, whatever.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Suzanne:
Looking forward to reading it
rikyrah
There’s a DJ
DJNice on Instagram who is throwing a virtual party. Has about 100k watching him, including all kinds of celebrities.
Come on over.
mrmoshpotato
OT – so if enough people sign that stupid petition, will Joe hand all of his delegates over to Wilmer?
Haha, I kid.
rikyrah
@rikyrah:
He has done old school rap
Diana Ross
Tina Turner
Kenny Rogers
Luther Vandross
Motown
New Edition
It’s been great
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Chetan Murthy:
American conservatives are literally the worst, most entitled people on the planet aren’t they?
@John Revolta:
Nope. Like believing the Bible is literally true and the universe is only 6000 years old
@Eunicecycle:
Wrong person to ask. I know a lot of artifacts are in museum collections all around the world not in the country of origin. The British Museum is notorious for this
mrmoshpotato
@Another Scott: Can we take all of the profits from the Russthuglican insider trading?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@mrmoshpotato: which petition? Â is that what the “Our President Bernie” on twitter was?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@rikyrah: I saw a tweet that Michelle Obama was at a famous person’s party and I thought, “Mrs O! set the example!” then I realized what was going on
emrys
@Suzanne: if you have two people who can drive, look into a one way rental as a second vehicle.
Suzanne
@Jeffro: How will we know if itâs spreading, since we gave up on testing? Never mind. Thatâs a rhetorical question.
Another Scott
@mrmoshpotato: Hey, they stole that money fair and square!! What are you, some kind of Communist or something??!!1ONE
I hope Nancy brings the hammer down on all of them, but if it takes a few more bills to do so, I’m Ok with that. They need to get the money out to people NOW.
Cheers,
Scott.
mrmoshpotato
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: There’s an occasional ad at top to sign a petition to make Wilmer the nominee. LOL Democracy-hating cosplay commies
mrmoshpotato
@Another Scott: Haha – guess I’m bank-robbing on Monday!
Amir Khalid
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Many of those artefacts weren’t purchased by Britain; they were simply taken as an exercise of its colonial power.
Poe Larity
Not a bad speech, if youâre the Grim Reaper.
TriassicSands
Sign up now! Jim Justice will be offering an online public speaking course for all West Virginians. If you aren’t inarticulate today, by the time you finish Justice’s class he guarantees that you won’t be able to string three consecutive coherent words together even if you have five other West Virginians helping you. Even your dog will no longer be able to understand your simple commands. Sign up now!
I had never seen and heard Justice before. To think this guy is a billionaire — the richest person in the state. The mind reels!
His is a very different kind of inarticulateness from Trump’s. Trump sickens and disgusts me. I almost felt sorry for Justice. Almost. In the end, however, I can’t feel sorry for Republicans anymore — ever.
Accepting the fact that Trump is in a class all his own, Justice is still one of the most inarticulate speakers I’ve ever heard.
I feel for you, Cole.
mrmoshpotato
@Poe Larity: Jim Justice has a Jamaican accent?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Amir Khalid:
Yeah, I should’ve mentioned that. The British stole from all over the place. Still, aren’t both examples of cultural approbation?
Calouste
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Compare that to the godless liberals at Microsoft and Apple etc, who keep paying their hourly employees while theyâre sitting at home, and a lot of them donât even work directly for the company.
Gvg
@Suzanne: My family and I moved from Oklahoma back to Florida when I was eight, driving with my 2 pet cats. My father built a travel enclosure cage for them in the back seat next to me. There was room for them on the seat with a shelf to look out and the litter box on the floor. We took them into the hotel each night. I think their was a door inside the car to transfer them to carriers. It worked well, used the space efficiently by fitting the car and not just being a rectangle. They slept as I recall.
we had some adventures finding a new house as we arrived in Orlando just after Disney opened and houses were in shortage. The problems we had were caused by the seller getting greedy after the contract was signed and trying to stall so my parents would walk away from their deposit. He decided he could have gotten more. Well he had to stick to the contract but it took extra weeks. If someone seems hinky, donât sign a contract with them, itâs too frustrating.
CaseyL
@Suzanne:
@emrys:
I think emrys’ idea of renting a second car is a really good idea. Five (?) humans and X number of pets in one car? For a multi-day drive? Yoiks.
KsSteve
I’m confused. Considering this was WV, I watched this thinking he was going to blow smoke up my ass about how we’re all going to be OK. Then he gave a presentation that I totally agreed with and I assumed he had locked down WV. Has this happened or is he preparing the masses for it?
TriassicSands
@KsSteve:
That is the problem with this speech or whatever one wants to call it. What did he say exactly? What are they doing exactly?
I got the feeling that he rambled and was so unclear because he felt (knew?) he was talking to an audience that didn’t want to hear the bad news. So, he couldn’t simply state the “X” number of steps he and they are taking.
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Well hey. MAGA, we are now number three in total orange virus cases behind Italy and China !!!!! Way to go trumpie. You sure do bigly shit.
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J R in WV
Big Jim Justice owns a famous resort called The Greenbrier, and coaches a girls high school basketball team near there. His many coal-related businesses are famous for not paying taxes and bills for materials and equipment — sound familiar?
Suzanne
@CaseyL: We have a second carâSuzMom’s. (We’re not bringing Mr. Suzanne’s.) But she doesnât feel up to driving it that far.
Suzanne
@Gvg: We want to rent for a few months in order to really nail down where we want to live.
The Pale Scot
This must be an out take from the Life of Brian, The Boring Prefect, which was revised and added as the Boring Prophet
jonas
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:Â Well, he’s probably in a pissy mood too because it’s becoming clearer and clearer that the tens (maybe hundreds?) of millions he’s pumped into buying Bible artifacts for his vanity Jesus museum in DC over the past decade are, well, a bunch of fakes…
Fair Economist
I am delighted by the fact that his money is in coal and resorts (the Greenbriar). He faces a well-deserved ruination.
joel hanes
@The Pale Scot:
Our reading tonight is from the book of Punter.
Fair Economist
@Chetan Murthy: What good is the fact that he kind of gets to the point that action has to be taken? Who is still watching after 10 minutes, besides the occasional masochistic BJer?
NotMax
@J R in WV
Greenbrier was, IIRC, where the underground complex to house the U.S. government in the event of nuclear war was located.
ballerat
Of course they made it sound like Nancy was the one who was being obstinate and unreasonable.
m.glafmer
fwiw, I’m drinking a wine called Walking Dead Blood Red Blend. 5 bucks a bottle. There’s not enough of this.
John, respect you for your decision. You are certainly the better person. But since I ain’t that strong, this is what I got. And I got a case.
Ksmiami
The Lodger
@emrys: Suzanne, if you’re getting a one-way rental, take a real good look at the vehicle before you drive it off the lot. Many rental companies view one-ways as a way to send lemons to another state.
J R in WV
@NotMax:
The Greenbrier was insdeed site of the Congressional cold war bunker, a professionally designed and built shelter for those fleeing Washington DC. I-64 runs right by rhe bunker. Now it’s a great tourist attraction, with a casino.
But back during WW II it was both a rural prison for captured German military officers and Diplomats– and then a hospital!
Perhaps Big Jim could donate the huge facility for care and rehabilitation of sufferers of the trump plague?
m.glafmer
@The Lodger: Been there, done that. Drove a one way rental from Atlanta to North Carolina that had GPS (back in 2003) but I needed to hold the steering wheel 45° off center to go straight. Not a fun drive.
Ryan
You know, in New York, they’re so fancy they have what they call a $64,000 question. We don’t have those kind of numbers, like they have in New York.
Uncle Cosmo
You bring to mind Dr. Lee, my Intro Physics lecturer at JHU in the late 60s, explaining acceleration meant changes in direction as well as speed:
I get the feeling the good Dr (RIP by now, no doubt) spoke from less-than-impressed experience with a Biscayne, Bel Air or Impala of that provenance…
Uncle Cosmo
When I went to Greece in 1997 & heard complaints about the Brits making off with their priceless legacy, I would reply,
I knew whereof I spoke – having toured Turkey the year before & visited the site of the acropolis at Bergama (ancient Pergamon) from whence the Altar of Zeus had been untimely ripped & carted off by German archaeologists, leaving only a few foundation stones behind.
evodevo
@Eunicecycle: The first Dead Sea scrolls were sold on the antiquities market by a local Arab who found the cave they were in 60 years ago…before the Israelis began really cracking down on that sort of looting. If these particular ones had been sold out of country back then, and then changed hands in Europe after that..there wouldn’t be anything inherently illegal. There has been a huge debate in the archaeological community over the last 40 years about publishing looted antiquities, but that wouldn’t stop a committed fundie. Their morality is exceedingly flexible about such matters. That;s what makes it so delicious that they spent $6 mil on fake ones…
evodevo
@Chetan Murthy:Â AND you can bet the placards on those artifacts will contain a plethora of lying and mythology concerning their origin and archaeological significance lol
Zinsky
I like how this knuckle-dragger says, “This is the $64 question (it’s actually supposed to be the “$64,000 question” – an allusion to the old TV show)” and then doesn’t pose a question at all… So, he bungles the name of program as well as committing a moronic malapropism. There are other similarly stupid comments, but it pains me to even type them.
What a moron! I’ll bet he and Trump are good buddies. Both dumber than a sack of shit.